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I’ve never tried it, but it’s a funky shape for the ocean that I’d imagine would be pretty difficult to surf

Does it work under low/no tension? I experimented with some other release mechanisms, but I couldn’t find something that works under both low AND high tension

Right? When the flow are right, it can be pretty good even if it's small

Thanks! I hear that after the 14th there should be a bump in flows that’ll make Scout wave pretty rippable all winter. We’ll have to wait and see to really know though

do a little wiggle

lol, in the driveway

@riversurflab any upcoming soft rack reviews?

nope, no reviews of soft anything in the near future ;)

Salida, CO

@ is it year round?

technically, yes. but it's best in the spring and summer

I'm currently working on content for 2024 including an update for the Scout wave. There are a bunch of new boards, but a lot of them aren't very interesting to me personally. The Wave Charmer and DNS are too long for my liking. The Chop and Crak'n and many of the other Lib Tech wake surfers have very wide tails (which aren't great for rail to rail transitions) and lack a center fix box (I'm not a huge fan of twin fins in the river). The Whiskey Throttle seemed like the perfect board for me, but when I surfed it I felt like there wasn't enough board under my front foot. I'll probably give it another try next year on Scout at different levels.

Yep! It was epic this year. I'm working on a 2024 video for Scout. Spoiler: the recommendations aren't much different than 2023

yep. I find it very difficult to spin with a full size center fin. but a large center fin is great for learning

I love it. When it's maxing out and turning into a foam pile half the time, it's the biggest most insane river wave I've ever surfed.

It is a mopar. A '70 Duster with a 340

@@riversurflab siiiiick

Thanks! shred.locks is my IG handle lol

I use the Kokatat Maximus Centurion. It's high floatation for big water, but also isn't too bulky to paddle

It takes time, but it's totally worth it.

It’s always hard to find a balance with boards that are trying to work at multiple types of waves. I’m sure it’ll work at Scout. Paddle to catch waves and popping up will depend on your skill. Personally I like finding the best boards for specific waves… which leaves me with a huge quiver

I haven’t. I can see how it would be comparable to the Shuvit and the Snapper

Depends on how "big" it is. For most seasons in the 10-15k range, I prefer either the Lib Tech Freak Flag Bean Bag, or the Badfish Shuvit

It definitely depends on how steep the wave is, and how likely I am to hit my fins on something/how durable my board is. My default is using a couple of these www.coloradoriversurf.com/product/-fcs-oxford-fiberglass-/8 and a small center like www.coloradoriversurf.com/product/-fcs-staircase-step-fiberglass-/15 full discloser: I designed and sell those fins. There are many different fins that will work well. Anything with a similar size and shape should work well on the river.

Totally. Someone small enough could definitely use it as a sup

keep an eye out for the video next week. I'll compare a bunch of boards I've surfed on Scout

@@riversurflab Sweet! That would be great. Any chance you can do a TL surf or CO surf supply board?

@@brianfitzpatrick8481 I’ll be talking a bit about the TL Crusty Booger in the next video. I’ve never been super impressed by co surf supply boards. I see them surfed all the time at rrp, but like the Shuvit those waves don’t require all the extra volume they have

My pleasure!

Yep! I had a 5'4" Whirlpool for part of last year, but decided it was too big for me. My plan is to pick up a 5'2" version this year.

Do you have any particular boards in mind? There aren’t a lot of options out there that are high volume and short enough for the river

@@riversurflab I was curious if you could review the newer Hala Peno, you reviewed the older one a while ago, the newer Peno has that 2" step-down style inflatable rail. And there isn't anyone out there that has reviewed if those rails really make a difference. Thanks!

@@cutter5733 I did a long term demo of the new Peno when it first came out. I’ll have to see if they’ve made any changes to it since. I felt like the thickness was overkill and made the board feel too corky. As far as the rails, I think they’re a great idea but it’s hard to tell the difference on the mushy, foamy waves that it works best in. It still felt like it was turning around the fins rather than using the rails to carve. If there’s a new version, I’ll give it a look!

A foam board in the 5’ range would be a good beginner board for both RRP and Salida. The Stump is a solid choice. If you’re a smaller person, the 54 Special. The Bombdrop would also make a good first board

@@riversurflab Sweet! Thanks for the info. I'm on the stump and it's been great. What do you think of the new Lib Tech Whirlpool?

The durability of lib tech boards is SO nice

Pray for some good snowpacks this winter! This board needs some high water on the big waves for river surfing.

Good questions! I'll try my best to give you my opinions. Cost: as someone from out of town, surfing a bunch of sessions over a few days, the price seemed reasonable. If I lived locally and wanted to surf everyday, it might get expensive, but they do offer season pass deals. Line up: some sessions were crowded, others barely had anyone. If you're worried about crowds, the early and late sessions were always empty. But even during the crowded sessions, I got plenty of surfing time. Vibe: super good. Lots of people new to the sport and stoked. Improvements: I think you nailed it. We need more City Wave locations in the US and we need them opened year round! The only thing that would be nice for them to improve is to find a way to make the wave deeper and less likely to destroy boards.

This might be a good board for Montrose, especially when it's good. Could be a little low volume for when it's small and mushy though.

If you're using it for river surfing, it really depends on the wave. If you're using it for ocean surfing, I would probably recommend a bigger board for a beginner.

I still haven't gotten to surf this board. Glenwood, Springdale, and high water LC all didn't happen for me this season. I'll be taking out to the ocean in the winter though, so I'll get sometime on it before next river surf season. The weight isn't bad, if I get a chance I'll put it on a scale and see.

You could go to halfmoon bay in Santa Cruz my favorite spot in northern California

For sure! I'll be surfing it in this ocean this winter and hopefully in the rivers in the spring.

My 5'10" FFBB is WAY better at catching waves than the 5'3" Hydra. However at 5'3" the Hydra fits into shortboard waves like Denver, Boise and Bend. But, it does feel way too big/high volume for those waves.