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Also, did you keep the sensor on the intake?

@@NajibulloNasimi I did yes, that stays with the air snorkel piece.

Let me know if you can see this: drive.google.com/file/d/1LXJKpwZZHr38lka_VZl8Ys6fWlbDhFek/view?usp=sharing

Hi I havent had many but the usual is posted on my videoes - watch for the front mount bolts loosening over time, I would take the time to locktite / safety wire them if you can do that. Otherwise its been pretty good. Ive ridden it 5x since I got it and rode it hard, put it away wet and its been a fun bike to ride. The motor and most components are the same as Ohvale GP2 so reliability will be similar motor wise.

@@Freddi922 Fantastic, did you manage to make it gp shift? In the vid you said you purchased gixer rear sets, did they fit?

@@bobobobobobs sorry I made a mistake in the video I mean standard. It already comes stock in GP shift. You are good if thats what you want. To make it STD, it took some Ohvale parts and minor modifications to some of the parts.

@@Freddi922 Ahhh okay, even better, I prefer it GP shift yeah, Thanks for the info man, I'll most likely buy it 👍

@Filthy_Goblin_44 hi I got the bike shipped to me for 2750 to my door I upgraded the forks and the shifter which cost me less than 500 more so it was a much cheaper option. I know the YC product is good though, but same motor

@@Freddi922 thanks for the reply. You said in a previous video you would have gone with the 4 valve engine. Has the Chinese engine given you any issues? I'm guessing the better engine just has better power correct?

@@Filthy_Goblin_44 of course no prob, I made these vids to help others with the same questions I had. Honestly these motors are great the only reason why I said the 4 valve is yes for a little more you could have more power, but with the 2 valve ive had the rear step out on me coming out of a corner when the tire wasnt fully warm yet, these things are still pretty quick with a 2 valve. Not as fast as a 150R as you can see in the video but not much slower either. With a 4 valve I imagine that would be a lot closer. In fact I have a 212 4v kit sitting on my bench for months and havent had the desire to install it because this thing is enough for me to get better on while chasing those 150r's around.

@@Freddi922 really so it's about the same as a 150 then? I'm running a duke 200 right now and my buddy's ycf 190 super mini is about the same as me power wise. And both of us are faster than 150rs straightline. So yeah the Daytona engine must be a pretty good step up. Do you think you'd still prefer the 10 inch wheels over the 12s?

@@Filthy_Goblin_44 I know the 150R in the video above is built so yes its close to a 150R for sure. Yes Daytona is def a step up from what im hearing everywhere. I cant comment on the 10 inch tires, I dont think thats an option for these bikes with the 190 and up motors from VMC.

Thx for the feedback any specific brand you recommend

@@Freddi922 I just bought some from google "pitbike hydraulic clutch kit". But maybe if someone get non-cheap version it can really help. And since we are talking about levers :D take a look at the JJuan brake pads, mine died extremely fast and felt like Vinales in Austria with zero front brake at the end of the straight.

interesting, didnt know this.

@@josephsaucedo8691 thank you! Gonna do it

​@Freddi922 id suggest getting the Daytona clutch cover it's a 2 peace so you can access the clutch without removing the entire side cover. There also a Daytona hydraulic cylinder cover that bolts on to the daytona side cover . So there no external slave cylinder needed on the top . It's built in the actual cover so you only have the clutch Handel master cylinder and the hose mount on the cover it self. It's a way better set up and direct fit on the zs💯🫡💪👌✌️

@@josephsaucedo8691 where can I find this??? Thats amazing thank you

@Freddi922 Google moto kit. Com the name of the company that make it opus its a aluminum cover the name on front of it opus. They also carry the Daytona clutch cover case you will need both for the conversion and a master cylinder to complete a kit. Hope that helps 💯🫡💪👌✌️

@Freddi922 just wondering if you got the message on were you can find it and the Brad of the cover info . I thought I sent . If you didn't let me know and I'll find a way to get it to you 💯😉🫡

Thanks for this info can you share this info on the cover that allows for easier clutch pull?

@Freddi922 moto kit .Com opus is the name on cover they also have the case half you also will need master cylinder for a complete kit/set up.💯🫡💪👌✌️

Dang ARacer ECU, EFI and QS?! crazy and amazing at the same time!

@Freddi922 yup there also a adjustable cdi box available and if you also like to launch/drag race you can also use the aracer to also set up a 2 step control launch and rev limiter. Both a must if turbocharged lol💯💪✌️🫡👍👌😉

They are both kick and electric for the ZS190 motor. The Daytona is kick only from VMC.

@1962monster yes ive heard of that happening before they said they would fix this by increasing the bolt mount size to M8 you might want to check in with them on that if you're on the fence. Those YCF's are nice for sure

Hi this was very old, their first iteration which I was helping them test. They did not have stability back then, I've since returned them and felt they were too big and bulky back then. The new iterations are much better but unfortunately I don't have any experience with them.

They actually make one on their new Motard bike that looks like it should fit but they are not selling it yet? I havent asked in a while though, some people made their own by mirroring a new bracket but seems like a ton of work. Id rather buy the motard bracket, I would ask Freya.

stiffer decomp springs

Here is the link to the ohvale parts catalog. ohvaleusa.com/pages/gp-2-left-footrest-assembly you will need the gear shift pincher (19), The shift rod (20), shift lever (12). A spacer www.amazon.com/dp/B094FCC2GM?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details and since the shifter is too wide for stock rearset, had to machine down the pivot to match the stock spacer which cost me about $40.

anytime!

Hi it is stock form factory but happy to share

@@Freddi922 Thanks! But don't stress too much about it If that information isn't easily available, I got the ZS212 engine as a kit that didn't come with a carburetor so I'm just trying to find the best settings that work.

@@dangerkingston ahh gotcha here is something I found online that matches what it comes with stock: www.ooracing.com/28mm-pe-style-carb-standard-one-that-comes-with-engines.html

@@Freddi922 thanks!

​@dangerkingston you need a 28mm or bigger up to 32mm makuni or kehien are the two good brand name carb that work the best for a carb set up. Just a fyi 💯💪✌️👍👌🫡

I really appreciate the feedback my goal was exactly that, to help others with my own experiences. I just checked the manual and you are correct - top end at the 40hr mark.

Oh, that’s good to know. I wonder how hard it is to get a reseal kit. Regardless, I’m most likely going to go with this over an ohvale and even the new ycf mini gp 187. That one looks promising too. Thanks again!

@@JustinHebbel-xe5hc You can source them locally but there are markups through popular scooter hop up shops. I went with a Anima 212cc kit (head, piston and jug) for about 300 through a highly recommended seller on Alibaba. If you havent already, join the ZS190 forums on Facebook, theyre a wealth of knowledge on the motors, there may not be alot of track riders on these forums but the knowledge is indispensable. That YCF looks the business, I would have gone with that if VMC wasnt an option

Glad it was helpful!

Thanks, that means alot. I keep hearing the motor just feels stronger but I dont have direct experience all I know the ZS190 is plenty fast and can do 65 without trying too hard so its enough to have fun on, on the kart track. There's also a Daytona 212 4v kit available that is a direct swap which ill be installing next year and that should be more power than the 190!

@@Freddi922 no really, if it weren’t for people like you and Peter we wouldn’t have known what to expect and know about the bike. I was informed by Freya Lyu that the Zongshen engine is 17hp and the Daytona engine is 22hp. Hopefully I’ll be able to buy next summer but by experience the 2 valve engine has more torque than the 4 valve at low rpms but that’s on road bikes, don’t know how it will translate on track with this bike, I also asked if the rear brake caliper could be relocated to the top of the swing arm like the MT-01 (another model they sell) but unfortunately the answer was no. I guess that u said there’s a kit for that, anyways keep those videos coming :)

@@Karim.R1 thank you, im glad these videos are helping people. I saw that JJuan had caliper brackets but yet to test them out. I kind of stopped chasing the issue after I started riding it and stopped worrying about it. Im sure if I lay it down, it will be a subject im going to revisit :) I have a 212 kit waiting to go but dont have time now so ill be putting up a video on that in the beginning of the year.

That would be awesome, I would love to see a setup like this in action.

Hello Its 2003 model but I had problems the rearset position moved it too high (2 inches) which made things really uncomfortable for me on such a small bike

Yes, it just takes a while to arrive 2 to 3 mos. but me and two other friends purchased them already and have taken them to the track and we like them alot!

I'd say im about 180-185 lbs with gear and the bike handled great. It does have adjustable shocks and you can get it with adjustable forks upon request, that said. I think it may need higher spring rates for anything over 200ish but that can be solved aftermarket. I have a friend who is heavier than you who just bought one of these and were going to figure that all out by working with companies who have made kits for the Ohvale GP2 as the suspension is very similar. The adjustable fork is 38mm stanchion by 660mm overall - we will try Mupo suspension springs and the rear is a DNM Hornet shock and I believe they do make different spring rates so we can go direct with them.

@@Freddi922 cool thanks. Can I just grease up chain, add 10W40, gas, add battery and just ride? or is it necessary to open the engine and adjust the valves???? I thought this machine would be ready to go after added the fluids?

@travelocationfilms3020 id say you could do all the above but from my experience its advisable to check valves as they come tight. its pretty easy though, theres videos out there that I can link you to, that will help.

That any video that instructs how to do would be awesome. Thanks again.

ua-cam.com/video/JhwzG3kPT3g/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ooracingtube@@SportbikeUnitedRiderz

Yes absolutely. Here is the tach: www.ebay.com/itm/125803579735 and here is the switch www.amazon.com/dp/B07F777CN4?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details So on the tach pickup, remember its the blue and white wire!

@@Freddi922 thank you 🙏🏽

I also have put a quick shifter on my gp12

@@devonhouston9672 whoa this is awesome, what QS did you use if you dont mind? Thats awesome, I ordered an STM slipper as well, would love a QS to round it off.

@@Freddi922 I also have stm slipper

Daytona 4 valve is an option for about $700 or so more dollars

Hey, they come stock with the Daytona model but they offer the fork separately too. Contact Jinhua and theyll write you up an invoice, I think it came in 3.5 weeks

@@Freddi922 thanks. Do you know the distance between two radial caliper mounting bolts is? 82mm or 100mm? Thanks bro.

I measure 80-ish mm, it utilizes the same calipers as what comes in the ZS190 version@@Peterohvale

@@Freddi922 thanks bro. I am replace the jjuan caliper cause the pad is around $80

Yeah those SBS pads are pricey. Which are you going with? Im not super impressed with my brakes even after going with the OEM brembo MC from my 701, theyre just ok.... Id like to dry another pad.@@Peterohvale

Sure always happy to help answer questions, although I didnt really modify my bike much motorwise. Let me know how I can help!

Thanks Peter, you helped me alot so im paying it forward.

awesome, im glad it helped - let me know how the QS kit does and which one you are using!

Dynojet dyno netted one hp at Jettuning dyno in Camarillo

Yes find it here vmcmoto.en.alibaba.com/productgrouplist-922719014/GP_12.html

Am I able to buy just one

@@leonidasvanburen5084 yes you can

Thank you very much

I think you will be happy - so far I consider the bike an excellent deal / value. You are getting alot for the price and although I wouldnt consider it "fuel up and go ready" without some simple maintenance tasks listed here its really not that big of a deal and you get to learn more about the bike anyway which is cool. Ive been busy but finally taking it to the track in a week, cant wait!

Thats really cool! Would love to see the setup.

I was afraid if I threw all the fairings on, something would happen during the shakedown runs and I would have to rip it apart again. Thankfully the only thing that happened was my chain adjuster was loose, otherwise everything ran great. Im impressed with the bike @peterohvale were heading to the track in a few weeks, to really see what theyre about! Wish I wasnt so busy lately.

@@Freddi922 track is where to find what it is capable of. Especially corner handlings

Haha stock Brembo from my Husqvarna 701

@@Freddi922 it is still Brembo

Hi are you looking for the link to buy the bike? What FB page are you looking for?

vmcmoto.en.alibaba.com/ hope this works, YT usually kills links for me.

Hi hopefully this works www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Minigp-160cc-190cc-sports-bike-pit_1600789528890.html?spm=a2700.details.0.0.6da76c41cqnung

Oh bummer! Yes I like the bike too, cant wait to hit the track just breaking it in now.

super small world. Where are you living now? Were in Ventura County.

@@Freddi922 I live right at the end of sb county I'm about 1hr half drive at most away from you 💯👍🏍️

A UA-camr name atk racing I helped getting a 190cc engine. Actually own a shop in your area he comes down here to race the track that not to far from my house he actually was the one that actually got in at the local track here. 💯🏍️👍

@@josephsaucedo8691 Do you mean Santa Maria Kart Track?

@@Freddi922 yup my parents house is less than a mile away from it and I'm about 5 mile from the track💯🏍️🍻

Hello, the info is on this video here ua-cam.com/video/86hN3nNOe78/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Pistons%26Pedals under the description. Im not allowed to post external links yet on UA-cam but if you search "Jinhua Racing" on Alibaba, I bought it from them.

Thank you! Maybe we will see you out there sometime!

Thanks for this advice! Ive heard that too....im assuming that my newer motor should have the shift star mod but Id have to pull off the clutch to really know so thats on the to do list. I wonder if Ohvale ships the Daytona motors with all the fixes or do they have the same problems as everyone else?

@@Freddi922 they have the same problems because they just put the engine in the bike they only build the bike it self the engine factory would have to make the changes that kinda of part off the company problem. Ooracing sell the complete engine with all the upgrades there the only company that offer it that I know of and IV done quite a bit of research more than most people even on the forms that I'm on. They say the factory doing the upgrades to the engine on the new models the shafts and shift star mod but IV heard some people say that even some of the newest models aren't coming with the up grades kinda why I recommend checking for your self just in case never hert's 👍🏍️🍻💯✌️

Wow good info, so no synthetic really? Daytona clutch cover...got it. BTW do you know the clutch pack thickness of these? I guess I can check. Id like to order a slipper for the track but theres two sizes 23mm and 25.5mm

@@Freddi922 dang I know watch your talking about it because of the year of the engine some parts slightly change. most people don't know this but that's the reason it should say on the specs sheet I was going to actually recommend getting one for the track and a couple other 😉🛠️🍻🏍️✌️👍💯 ps I'd measure it to be positive

Ya no joke synthetic oil will damage these engine any thing that not metal IV seen proof eats up timing chain guide and seals🛠️🍻🏍️✌️👍💯

@@josephsaucedo8691 are you talking in general or for this specific motor? ive been using sythetic oils in all my Japanese motors for a very long time and raced in them with no issues.

@@Freddi922 it for all the Daytona and z's engine basically the plastic isn't design to handle the chemical in synthetic oil and will cause it to back down early and can cause engine to fail unfortunately. It also not good for there clutch system make it stick for some reason.🏍️💯👍✌️🛠️

Hi Joseph, I found a way to do it through a fwd'r but I cant link anything on my YT site yet search for "my UK mailbox" and you can find info on how to find a fwd'r in the UK to buy from places like OORacing. In my mind they are one of the best resources ive found so far. Im definitely going to do that! Thanks for all your helpful comments, im really doing this to help others like me who at first knew nothing about these motors and bikes and sharing bits and pieces of what ive learned as well as from others on here. If I can link all the helpful resources ive found it would be great but I have to wait to do it I guess. New to sharing on UA-cam so im in YT purgatory right now....

@@Freddi922 it's all good I understand there a lot out there I also don't mind helping others but I try to do it through email just because not everyone willing to do any research and spend any time looking for things and other social media reason I don't care for. So I understand when people don't drop links to thing in less there stating it I no when people are actually wanting to know and will to learn by going the extra step to find what there looking for. Usually because I'll get more then one email question from the person 🖥️💯👍✌️🏍️🍻🛠️😉