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Thanks so much! We really appreciate it. Good to have you in the community! Bring on the 2025 season!

Good point. There are others that will challenge these two. I see Yago having a good year and the rest of the top 5 are gunning for the champ and the returning champ.

yes! and why isn't Filipe practicing in reef waves?

"Toledo is nowhere to be found.."

Yeh, John does maneuvers on triple overhead waves that others do on shoulder high dribblers. Haleiwa comes to mind.

Pretty much what you just said right there.

this. simply.

'Stick boy' still one of the fastest cleanest carving surfers I've ever seen. Thankfully he can't ride Pipe or there would be 5 more trophies on his mantle. Haha

Finals should be a damn good time! Yo! You picking Ramzi!? That's bold! Love it. Happy New Year my friend!

The swell will determine the favorite in several of the locations that Fil and John don't have a distinct advantage, but I would argue that John has a better chance at a small wave venue than Filipe at a big reef wave. I just looked at the odds on betoonline.ag (for us in the US) and Currently Gabriel Medina is second with a +300 (Bet $10 win $30) while Filipe is +400 followed by Griff and Jack at +600. John John is not listed as a futures bet telling me he's ranked #1 by oddsmakers. Are you looking at TAB numbers? Interesting..

As I was answering the comments above, I said basically the same thing that you said so well, "The thing is, John is much closer to Filipe in turns than Filipe is to John in barrels and heavy water." Perfect.

would you go to 3 foot? Ha

Thank you. It was interesting to break it down. I don't think Tbone and I thought it would be so close when we looked at the tour.

His one trick (clean speed turns) is pretty good tho. I'd say he has other tricks too (airs and did I mention speed?) haha

I think the pressure in the moment made him say things he didn't mean to say...or did he? Yeh, he might be trippn. Haha.

I actually mixed up Dane Henry with Hughie Vaughn. Don't get me wrong, Hughie Vaughn charges way over his fighting weight and his airs are good, but it's Dane Henry that's doing crazy stuff that I was going on about in the video. Big Fan. Thanks for your comment!

Thanks for reminding me of the movie 'Maps of Home' ua-cam.com/video/n3NS9bPa5qY/v-deo.html with the outer reef session and the Haleiwa section with Jack Robbo. Gotta watch that again!

John = waterman

Great points. Filipe has won in bigger surf at several locations, but I think his achilles heel is shallow reef (Tahiti and Pipe). You're right to say that if he mastered that he would be nearly unbeatable, but thankfully we get to have these debates about who is better! Ha :)

Mee too! If you don't already know I have a fantasy league (one free, one $20 buy in winner take all) if you want to join us. It's a dman good time. I'm working on the website right now for next season, but all the info will be posted soon at www.oldsurfdad.com/

Better than Kelly? Put the pipe down.

@datapusher- John was way better than Kelly as a youth, you can't argue with Kelly's competitive success.. and take away from the injuries that John had he would have probably one more titles. Look at the footage from J Bay when John was 13, Kelly was not that good at that age, and John is way more well-rounded as an individual. I grew up surfing around Slater, John is a waterman Kelly is a surfer

This is an interesting debate! Maybe we tackle this on in a future show.

@OldSurfDad consider this, its no secret...Kelly " doesn't like" to surf Sunset or Haleiwa. There is still a defining element to how surfers handle Hawaii, no question Kelly is high performance, you don't win that much being less than the best competitively. Go back 2 years and look at the footage from John's Haleiwa sessions - I lived across the street from Ali'i Beach Park for many years and I have never seen anybody attack that wave like John does. That footage is absolutely mind-blowing, and I'll tell you that place is a true test on a 6' day. The watermelon aspect is really what takes him to another level, and he is just a natural. Style is another factor, in considering that my favorites will always be John then Andy and then Kelly somewhere after that, Fanning and Medina up there also. Kelly's obsession to win cost him a lot of quality time in life

Should Filipe have said this on ESPN then? Or did he get railroaded and now regrets it? It's a shame because he is incredibly talented, yet his weakness is there for all to poke at.

@@OldSurfDad when you're claiming to be the best, and out to be number one, your weaknesses will show. It's okay not to be perfect, but those are the facts. Filipe's dad came out and spoke for him regarding his issues in big surf and then he kind of followed up. Quite possibly nobody can beat him and surf that's 4 ft and less, but all these pros nowadays surf very good in small waves. At that level in any sport, everybody's looking for a reason to watch you falter. Still keeps him from that ultra top level class

Depending on where they rank Filipe this could actually happen at Pipe! Whoa

good call, let's see.

Agree, but would you go to 6 feet? Haha

Brazilians usually win in Brazil

@mattgurin6168 except for medina, but Filipe is probably the one who won the most in Rio (and still they didn't remember that Filipe won in Rio before)

@Wetsand348 Rio is such a small piece of the pie, the Brazilians are favored at home....Gabe is not scared, Filipe will probably never conquer his fears. Got to have the full package if you want to be the best

Yes, I made a mistake on this. I was thinking Gabriel Medina when I said that. Dang. My bad.

This can be argued for sure, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some like Johns radical power turns over Filipes clean speed carves. Because the WSL is subjective, judges decide in competition. In free surf edits we get to decide what we prefer.

At J-Bay, Filipe is the best surfer of all time, hands down, and John John doesn’t even come close. You gonna tell me J-Bay isn’t a wave of consequence? Hahaha!

Yes, you are correct - Filipe has won 3 times in 2018, 2019 and 2022. I was thinking of Gabriel Medina who has not won there yet. Let's hope there's swell at most of the events that will level the playing field!

@@Carlosmm53 You could certainly make the argument that Filipe is the best competitive surfer at J-bay with 3 impressive wins there, but Kelly and Mick each have 4 wins and higher heat win percentages. As far as J-Bay being a wave of consequence, I wouldn't put it in the same category as Tahiti and Pipe because it lacks a shallow reef although the rocks at J-Bay are pretty gnarly and barnacle encrusted. I hope to see pumping swell at J-Bay this year and see some epic surfing. Yew!

Dude! Liam was always wearing something to stand out - Camo, Gath helmet with the shade down and he even had a helmet one year painted with the Raiders colors and logo! Ha. Pretty epic. Good memories.

Happy New Year Martin!

If the WSL tour has small waves during the season then advantage Filipe, but with some good swell at the events it opens up the competition. Fortunately there's no more Trestles Final and the Final 5 will battle it out at Cloudbreak in Fiji. That seems to be more of an advantage for John, Robbo, Yago and Gabriel (and let's not forget last year's winner Erin Brooks).

@@OldSurfDad it’s not advantage Filipe, it’s advantage to everyone including the 18 year old wildcard, if it’s held in 12+ the flipping and spinning and getting the lucky 2 foot wave out of a heat of 1.5 footers is gone. You only have to look at the data, wsl in small waves the ratings are way down, and the UA-camrs surfing 15foot cloud break are getting all the views, they need a better event model or they’ll keep haemorrhaging

Actually he has great technique to get barreled, his problem is when it gets big. It's a lot more of a psychological thing than anything else

When we had that swell in California and Hawaii during the holidays, Filipe showed a clip of himself on instagram getting these little tube drainers in Nicaragua. Pretty stylish little barrels, but next to the other content of Huge Mavericks and Pipe bombs and The Eddie I felt a little bit sorry for him. I mean, sure, he can thread the needle on some beachy, but reef waves are his kryptonite. I agree that his speed carves are nearly flawless and his ability to read (double overhead and under) waves and flow through them is his greatest strength.

@@OldSurfDad Yep i agree he knows how to get barreld well its just when the swell jacks up he just cant do it mentally

I've used it sparingly the last two months because of other projects. Pro Surf Season for me starts in late January, but I used it last week and was really happy with the results. I am going to take Doug Jensen's class as well to get to know the camera better. Wish I could give you a more glowing review, but I'm just not there yet, but will know in a few more months. Hope that helps. Good Luck!

@@OldSurfDad Well, I'm on board. (excuse the pun :) It's been order and like you I'll be taking the course too as I feel it will allow me to really get to know the camera. Thanks.

@@andyarts8382 Old Surf Dad loves puns! Well Done. Lol

Thanks for watching! No, the NX800 does not have dedicated timecode input or output as I understand. That's something I don't use and if it's important to you, I'd get the Z200.

Thanks for the great video and the quick response.

I feel you on the "wearing down this old body"! For the surf video featured, one has to hike about two miles down a trail and through some soft sand. My NX800 is definitely lighter than my old setup. The camera weighs less than 5 pounds and is really all I need now. I think your sigma lens alone weighs more than that, but there are tradeoffs of course. We do completely different types of shooting, but yet I think related in the requirements for the job. There's less bokeh with the NX800, but so much more on offer. I love the ease of use and versatility all in one package and the focus is great. Shooting bears and wildlife sounds pretty fun and exiting, but I imagine it takes time to find the situation and hopefully not as 'run and gun' as it sounds! Ha! The heaviest thing I have to carry is my tripod (E-Image 2-Stage Aluminum Tripod with GH06 Head) that weighs about 12 1/2 pounds. Now that my camera is lighter I'm hoping to get a lighter tripod that can give me the same solid foundation. I like the NX800 a lot right now and would recommend it, but ultimately depends on what your needs are. I'll be doing a follow up review after a few more projects and I get to know the camera better. Thanks for your comment. Cheers!

@@OldSurfDad All great info. For me it is actually run and gun...hahah or run and bearspray...So timing is everything. They don't hang around for very long. I look forward to your future post especially the tripod you choose. Mine is 17lbs..ugh. But sturdy.