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The Thief Rogue/Wizard BUILD (W/BONKERS D&D 5e24 DMG)
Can a Rogue do incredible damage? This Thief/Wizard multiclass sure can - dealing more then 500% over Treantmonk's baseline damage.
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True Strike + Thief = BONKERS DAMAGE
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Let's talk a bit about just how good the new thief is and one particular piece of tech that pushes the thief into the highest tier of damage dealers right out of the gate in this new 2024 meta. If you like what I do, and would like to support the channel: www.patreon.com/cmccbuilds The Gauntlet Intro: ua-cam.com/video/JRN7lx0RP4g/v-deo.html The Gauntlet Discord: discord.gg/ZpCPXqA6aS Support th...
Barbarian/Warlock (2024) vs NEW Gauntlet (Level 10)
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The Barbarian Warlock (updated for 5e.24) takes on the new level 10-u Gauntlet by Draco. How will it do? The Video is Sponsored by Only Crits: www.onlycrits.com/cmccbuilds Use the coupon code CMCC (not case sensitive) for 12% discount! Thank you very much Only Crits for sponsoring this video! If you like what I do, and would like to support the channel: www.patreon.com/cmccbuilds The Gauntlet I...
Optimizing Critical Role - Percy
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Let's optimize Percival de Rolo using the 2024 Player's Handbook rules. This is meant to be fun theory crafting and not an attempt to prove me right and the Critical Role cast wrong. If you like what I do, and would like to support the channel: www.patreon.com/cmccbuilds There you can find character sheets for builds like this one. #dnd #dungeonsanddragons #criticalrole #gunslinger #optimizatio...
2024 MOON DRUID vs The Gauntlet
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MOON DRUID BUILD: ua-cam.com/video/vLubUP0VEHk/v-deo.htmlsi=4CC9gnxr9Ra4w9TD The era of the 2024 Player's Handbook is upon us. Let's see what the new Moon Druid can do to a gauntlet that was tuned for 2014 optimized builds. We've seen some great builds go up against this gauntlet and fail. Will the new Moon Druid succeed? If you like what I do, and would like to support the channel: www.patreon...
The Moon Druid (2024 Rules): 5-Minute Builds
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In preparation for a level 14 Gauntlet Run, let's build the 2024 D&D Moon Druid in 5 minutes or less. If you like what I do, and would like to support the channel: www.patreon.com/cmccbuilds Music Credits: One Bard Band by Alexander Nakarada (CreatorChords) | creatorchords.comMusic promoted by www.free-stock-music.comCreative Commons / Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0)creativecommons.or...
The Gauntlet and the NEW Player's Handbook (2024)
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Join the Gauntlet here: discord.gg/F69ZM5C4JN 2024 Builds will be embarking on the dangerous mission of talking the Gauntlet. How will they perform and what changes do we have in store for the Gauntlet setup? If you like what I do, and would like to support the channel: www.patreon.com/cmccbuilds Music Credits: One Bard Band by Alexander Nakarada (CreatorChords) | creatorchords.comMusic promote...
THE Build When You Roll Bad Stats (D&D 5e)
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When rolling your stats, sometimes it's great, and sometimes it's not so great. If you don't like your rolls, you don't have to beg your DM for another chance. There is a build for you. It's powerful and it's fun. Special thanks to Only Crits for sponsoring this video. www.onlycrits.com/cmccbuilds For 12% off EVERYTHING - Code: CMCC If you like what I do, and would like to support the channel: ...
The Sorlock: 5-Minute Builds
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Let's build the D&D Sorlock (Sorcerer/Warlock multiclass) in 5 minutes or less. Thanks to Luminous Lore for sponsoring the video. Check out their Kickstarter at www.kickstarter.com/projects/luminousages/luminous-lore-5e-guide?ref=ego7qg If you like what I do, and would like to support the channel: www.patreon.com/cmccbuilds Music Credits: One Bard Band by Alexander Nakarada (CreatorChords) | cr...
The Quintessential "No Magic" Melee Build: 5-Minute Builds
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Here we build THE quintessential Dungeons and Dragons melee build in less than 5 minutes. The Video is Sponsored by Dscryb: dscryb.com/cmcc Use the coupon code CMCC for a 10% discount! Thank you very much Dscryb for sponsoring this video! If you like what I do, and would like to support the channel: www.patreon.com/cmccbuilds Music Credits: One Bard Band by Alexander Nakarada (CreatorChords) | ...
The Most Boring Character in D&D: 5-Minute Builds
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Let's build the most boring D&D we can (not Galadriel) in 5 minutes or less. This build is PERFECT for newcomers to the game. Thanks to Luminous Lore for sponsoring the video. Check out their Kickstarter at www.kickstarter.com/projects/luminousages/luminous-lore-5e-guide?ref=ego7qg If you like what I do, and would like to support the channel: www.patreon.com/cmccbuilds #dnd #builds #5e #charact...
The CHRONURGY Wizard - BUILD (D&D 5e)
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Here we build one of the most powerful builds in all of Dungeons and Dragons 5e: the Chronurgy Wizard. Special thanks to Only Crits for sponsoring this video. www.onlycrits.com/cmccbuilds For 12% off EVERYTHING - Code: CMCC If you like what I do, and would like to support the channel: www.patreon.com/cmccbuilds Music Credits: One Bard Band by Alexander Nakarada (CreatorChords) | creatorchords.c...
The CHRONURGY Wizard - Artificer vs Cleric (D&D 5e)
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When building a Chronurgist Wizard in Dungeons and Dragons 5e, which level 1 dip should you take? If you like what I do, and would like to support the channel: www.patreon.com/cmccbuilds Music Credits: One Bard Band by Alexander Nakarada (CreatorChords) | creatorchords.comMusic promoted by www.free-stock-music.comCreative Commons / Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0)creativecommons.org/li...
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Treantmonk vs THE NEW Gauntlet (Finale)
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Treantmonk (and friends) vs THE NEW Gauntlet
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Optimizing the Companions (BG3) - Part 2
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The BG3 Ranged Swords Bard: 5-Minute Builds
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The 5e Ranged Swords Bard: 5-Minute Builds
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Mercy Gunk vs THE GAUNTLET: Part 2
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Baldur's Gate 3 Races Ranked: Which Race is BEST?
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Mercy Gunk vs THE GAUNTLET
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Mercy Gunk vs THE GAUNTLET

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @gregkaye5583
    @gregkaye5583 Годину тому

    awesome

  • @gregkaye5583
    @gregkaye5583 2 години тому

    Awsome, I guess the warlock just needs to remember to buy ammo, or take on a repeat weapon

  • @gregkaye5583
    @gregkaye5583 2 години тому

    aweso,e

  • @gregkaye5583
    @gregkaye5583 2 години тому

    awesome

  • @gregkaye5583
    @gregkaye5583 2 години тому

    interact with object would allow a character with a free hand to draw a scroll but without a possibility to stow the use scroll, with result that the character would leave a paper trail.

    • @gregkaye5583
      @gregkaye5583 2 години тому

      I don't see an explaination on how more than one scroll can be drawn out every round.

  • @gregkaye5583
    @gregkaye5583 3 години тому

    Can you please cite the rule that you say allows an elf wizard to swap cantrips every long rest?

  • @gregkaye5583
    @gregkaye5583 3 години тому

    It seems to me aginst RAI to take a skill not allowed by class, race of background, What interpretation of RAW do you use to attempt to justify this?

    • @gregkaye5583
      @gregkaye5583 3 години тому

      I think that Arcana skill would require a background like haunted one

  • @traynichols7785
    @traynichols7785 13 годин тому

    Sorry, I’m not tracking. How does he get 2 “turns” per round?

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 13 годин тому

      It’s on the screen and I talk about it. The thief’s level 17 ability

    • @traynichols7785
      @traynichols7785 12 годин тому

      Gotcha. Missed that ability!! Thx

  • @AtelierPlume
    @AtelierPlume День тому

    Sorry, but i think it's only 1 sneak attack per turn.... even when you have multiple attacks... except at level 17 with 2 turns...

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 День тому

      Correct. The build doesn’t do more than 1 sneak attack per turn

  • @LoreFoundry
    @LoreFoundry День тому

    I guess my confusion comes from the 13 Thief ability. I dont understand why they meed to include a paragraph for spell scrolls specifically if they already have the ability to use the magic action at third lv. "Scrolls. You can use any Spell Scroll, using Intelligence as your spellcasting ability for the spell. " Ya i just dont get why they have that lv 13 bit.

  • @SilasMonroe
    @SilasMonroe День тому

    How can you sneak attack twice when the PHB says you can only sneak attack once per turn? I can see two attacks, one with each hand but there can be only one sneak attack

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 День тому

      We’re only sneak attacking once per turn here. You may be confusing the term “turn” with “round”.

  • @davidpaikins3172
    @davidpaikins3172 День тому

    Lucky.. realy Musician everyone in the group will get one lucky dice roll per short rest

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 День тому

      Yeah this is a gauntlet with 1 pc and 2 sidekicks.

  • @Hyperdragon1701
    @Hyperdragon1701 2 дні тому

    So uh, they never left the starting area? That's a yikes.

  • @hawkingeta7489
    @hawkingeta7489 3 дні тому

    What module are you using to show the damage on monsters? What module are you using for the emanation radius on the owl?

  • @djmikio
    @djmikio 4 дні тому

    If the 2025 Monster Manual improves those higher CR beasts all this could be premature. If we get even a quarter the CR 4 selection we get at CR 1 then Moon Druid is up there with the most powerful classes.

  • @kiwikeagan
    @kiwikeagan 6 днів тому

    Great video. Really need a new revision of this build since 5R nerfed Sharpshooter.

  • @alexpage5268
    @alexpage5268 8 днів тому

    What about a thief/sorcerer instead. Then you can use innate sorcery at L1 to get advantage for 1 minute, two times per long rest for a minute. If you got one more level of sorcerer you get quicken metamagic. At 2 levels sorcerer you'll have 2 metamagic points + 3 level 1 slots which is 8 sorcery points or 4 bonus action true strikes per day. If you go one more level of sorcerer then you 3+8(4xL1 slots)+6(2xL2slots) for 8 bonus action true strikes without spending resources or having to scribe scrolls. You can get 1-2 more bonus action true strikes with the bloodwell vial (maybe a bit more if you GM will let you keep surplus points you recover). If we use treantmonk's 4 combats/day of 4 rounds each we've cut down on scrolls by half (with 3 levels), and at least 2 of those rounds will be no hassle set-up rounds with innate sorcery. The best part is burning slots for metamagic points doesn't take any action so you're in a 'superposition' of having the slots without needing to burn them until you do need it. You also don't need to be generating booming blade/greenflame blade/true strike separate scrolls and can just cast what you want when you need it. Maybe even a eldritch adept for pack of the blade so you have a melee weapon off CHA for the blade cantrips. The downside obviously is your 1d6 sneak attack behind your build. But, its far more self sufficient up until your L18 nova level basically. So games that only go to L15 at the max I think this would be a better option IMO. Maybe not vs. a one shot type build for the gauntlet.

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 8 днів тому

      “Treantmonk’s 4 combats/day of 4 rounds each” ಠ_ಠ

    • @alexpage5268
      @alexpage5268 8 днів тому

      @@cmccbuilds8229 Sorry. The pseudo being redefined baseline assumption that Chris uses on his channel to assess 2024 DND class DPR over the last 1-2 months of which I have no clue what the origin is but think is a reasonable amount of combats/duration per day?

  • @DTHogwood
    @DTHogwood 9 днів тому

    I'm sorry that you're having to go thru this with so many people online, and I'm sorry that so many of them didn't take the time to watch your video and actually absorb the information. Im dealing with this same simple issue with another player, i feel your pain. If they need further guidance they can always watch the interview with Jeremy Crawford where he talks about the new 2024 Rogue... But they probably wont pay attention to that video either. Thank you for your hard work!

  • @LordOfWarAk47
    @LordOfWarAk47 10 днів тому

    Did you use dndbeyond for the character build? They don't have merchant as a choice in the drop down menu.

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 10 днів тому

      Did you buy the phb?

    • @LordOfWarAk47
      @LordOfWarAk47 10 днів тому

      @cmccbuilds8229 Ah, you'll have to buy it to open up the features :/ guess the subscription doesn't do that much

  • @SuperFizzah
    @SuperFizzah 11 днів тому

    Ive commented this before, as have some others in this video and the last one related to this build, but I still believe there is one huge issue with casting truestrike through a spell scroll. Per the rules of casting and scribing spell scrolls, you need to use any material cost associated with the spell when you are scribing the spell, and you do not use any other material components when using the scroll itself. Truestrike has a specific material cost, a weapon worth 1 gp. It would become DM dependant on whether or not you could just use the same weapon you had on you when scriving the scroll, but its not a guarantee that you CAN do this at all RAW. Youd think this would be touched on, but it seems like I can't even find the older comments. Some clarification on this would be great considering it is the main interaction of the build.

    • @LordOfWarAk47
      @LordOfWarAk47 10 днів тому

      It does not say material cost, rather components. Arguably components can be reused.

  • @burningwp
    @burningwp 11 днів тому

    I dread the day they come out with an elven accuracy revision.

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 11 днів тому

      Because you like this version so much?

  • @sardonicpoet
    @sardonicpoet 11 днів тому

    11:51 I don’t see any wording that Thief’s Reflexes would reset your reaction. You’re taking a second turn in the same round at a lower initiative. Your reaction wouldn’t refresh until the top of the next round.

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 11 днів тому

      Go ahead and reread the reaction and let me know where it says “next round”

    • @sardonicpoet
      @sardonicpoet 11 днів тому

      @@cmccbuilds8229 I’m saying that it doesn’t. Your second turn is in the same round. And you only get one reaction in a round, therefore only one chance to trigger a Readied action.

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 11 днів тому

      @sardonicpoet this is incorrect. I’ll save you the trouble. “When you take a Reaction, you can’t take another one until the start of your next turn” How many turns do you get in round 1?

  • @OldManMcLoyf
    @OldManMcLoyf 11 днів тому

    Good taste in background music at the start 😉

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 11 днів тому

      @oldmanmcloyf thank you? Why the wink?

    • @OldManMcLoyf
      @OldManMcLoyf 11 днів тому

      @@cmccbuilds8229 I use it in all my videos, fan of that music lol

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 11 днів тому

      It’s generally my intro music over the last couple of years.

    • @OldManMcLoyf
      @OldManMcLoyf 10 днів тому

      @@cmccbuilds8229 Great choice, the artist has so many good tracks that sound like classic RPGs, perfect for D&D vids.

  • @timjensen4320
    @timjensen4320 12 днів тому

    This build is good, but you still didn't fix the fact that each scroll takes a day to scribe. Yes, you can argue a work day is 8 hours, but that doesn't automatically mean you can dedicate work 24hrs straight and make 3 scrolls, or spending extra time each day reducing the number of days to scribe higher level scrolls. But if your DM allows you to claim your character is fine living their life as a printer every moment of their life not in combat, at most you make 2.5 scrolls a day. So for every 2 ROUNDS of combat, you need a day of downtime?

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 11 днів тому

      5 scrolls every two days of downtime. 3 scrolls every two days of adventuring (assuming you’re actually adventuring for 8 full hours). With the new DMG it’s even easier and quicker to get scrolls. I see no issues unless you get almost no downtime for some reason. In that case, this isn’t the build for you.

    • @timjensen4320
      @timjensen4320 11 днів тому

      @@cmccbuilds8229 I disagree with assuming a DM would allow me to make 5 scroll in 2 days (I wouldn't as a DM for sure). But even using your numbers it requires a lot of downtime. Let's say the average adventuring day you have 15 rounds of combat. For 2 days would be 30 scrolls which you say you'd produce 3 on. You'd then need 11 days downtime chained to a desk to to make the other 27. So effectively you can adventure once every 7 days or so AT BEST

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 11 днів тому

      @timjensen4320 1. DMs can disallow any rule they want. It brings nothing to the table to mention that a rule or mechanics can be ignored by DMs 2. As stated, you’re not casting true strike every single turn. You can, but you should be using magic items and other scrolls to good effect. 3. That timeline isn’t that bad and will only get better with the new dmg

    • @timjensen4320
      @timjensen4320 11 днів тому

      @@cmccbuilds8229 I'll take your word on new DMG as it's not out, but I'd be surprised if it override the new PHB by much. I don't see it as ignoring a rule as much as we differ in our interpretation of what's written. The chart for crafting lists a number of DAYS it takes to craft a scroll. It also defines that you must spent 8 hours of that day crafting for it to count as a days work. The book does NOT say you can spend 16 hours in one day to get credit for two days of work. It does not say it's possible for a character to be so efficient with their time that they can spend 20 hours every single day being productive (guess someone else is feeding them, going shopping for supplies, changing their pee bucket, etc). I'm not trying to be difficult here. I'm just pointing out that while your damage numbers look great on paper, outside the white room that damage doesn't seem sustainable in almost any campaign I've ever played in.

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 11 днів тому

      @timjensen4320 WotC just released a dmg video. Check it out

  • @TheCoaIa
    @TheCoaIa 12 днів тому

    Sounds amazing, BUT: How long does it take to craft a cantrip spell scroll? Even ignoring the cost, typically, we assume 4 fights with 4 rounds each and 1 short rest per long rest. So thats 16 required scrolls per day pre lv 17(18) and 5 hours downtime per day without making other players wait in ingame time. I actually don't know how long it takes to scribe 16 scrolls but I would assume this cannot be sustainable without help of others, days of downtime or an agreement to chill a while each morning.

  • @ancientgammoner6961
    @ancientgammoner6961 12 днів тому

    For ranged weapons I think you need to use hand crossbow instead of shortbow, since that requires two hands to attack and if your casting True Strike from a scroll to make the attack then you need a hand free for the scroll.

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 11 днів тому

      Where does it say you need a hand free to cast a scroll?

    • @ancientgammoner6961
      @ancientgammoner6961 11 днів тому

      ​@@cmccbuilds8229 It says you need to read the scroll, how are you reading the scroll without having the scroll out? See this is where theorycrafting meets actual playing, but have fun convincing a DM that you can read something that you can't see.

    • @Sweet_Zombie_Cheezuz
      @Sweet_Zombie_Cheezuz 7 днів тому

      That's easy enough... My character wrote the scroll, knows exactly what words they wrote. In fact, they have written the same scroll, tens if not hundreds of times. So they read the scroll from their memory... and that then discharges the scroll in your backpack or pocket etc. I guess it just comes down to your interpretation of 'reading a scroll' is HOLDING and LOOKING at a scroll whereas that is nowhere in the rules. As a DM I would allow it, especially for scrolls that the player's character themselves had written and used over and over and over.

  • @sortehuse
    @sortehuse 12 днів тому

    You can do take a different background skill in the D&D Beyond Character Builder if you already have it from your class, but that just leftover bug from 2014 rules, in the 2024 rules you don't choose your skill proficiencies from your class until after you have chosen background. You can break the 2024 rules in other ways when you use the Character Builder, like putting the +2 and +1 Ability Scores adjustment from your background in the same Ability.

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 11 днів тому

      Where does it say in the phb that you must take origin before class? I know it’s recommended, but didn’t see that it was mandatory. Post page number please.

    • @sortehuse
      @sortehuse 11 днів тому

      @@cmccbuilds8229 Chapter 2: Creating a Character describes how you make a Character and that description you choose your class at step 1 but have to wait with some of the details (like skill proficiencies), you pick your origin at step 2 and you don't pick your skill proficiencies from class until step 5. I only have the electronic version and they didn't give it page numbers, sorry.

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 11 днів тому

      @sortehuse I’m aware of that. This seems like a suggested route not a mandatory part of character creation. All level 1 stuff happens at the “same” time as far as I’m aware. Origin doesn’t happen before class. And if there is duplication in skills, you choose a new skill. If I’m wrong - do what i said in the video and take the custom background (it’s better anyway)

    • @sortehuse
      @sortehuse 11 днів тому

      @@cmccbuilds8229 The rule about if there's duplication in skills, you choose a new skill was a rule from the 2014 PHB. There is no need for that rules in the 2024 rules because you choose your background before your skill proficiencies from your class. Many DM would probably allow anyway.

  • @danrosenthal9231
    @danrosenthal9231 12 днів тому

    Why wouldn't you take Night Spirit epic boon with this build to further help with maintaining advantage and for incredible survivability? Truesight isn't super necessary in most cases, and can be achieved through a scroll or a magic item anyway.

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 11 днів тому

      Obviously if you have true sight through a magic item, you’d take a different boon

    • @danrosenthal9231
      @danrosenthal9231 11 днів тому

      @@cmccbuilds8229 my point is that it's still a less useful epic boon to take than Night Spirit in 90% of cases, even before you consider that true sight can be acquired in several other ways. It's even more important because you can't be running Blade Ward with this tech due to it requiring concentration. Epic Boon of Speed also a strong contender for when your rogue doesn't need damage boosts.

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 11 днів тому

      @danrosenthal9231 a strong defensive choice no doubt

  • @soggypikachu769
    @soggypikachu769 12 днів тому

    This is very interesting I like it a unique play style and gives you almost a mini task to complete when adventuring about! but I did have a question I might have missed it but what was the persuasion proficiency for?

    • @barberboy7
      @barberboy7 11 днів тому

      He took proficiency in persuasion so it would override the persuasion proficiency in the merchant background, allowing you to choose another skill as part of your background so you can select Arcana 😊

    • @soggypikachu769
      @soggypikachu769 11 днів тому

      @@barberboy7 oh nice! I see now thank you!

  • @freemanvosburg4542
    @freemanvosburg4542 12 днів тому

    How much GP does it cost to make a level 0 Spellscroll? How much gold do y'all's DMs usually give out?

  • @jacklenz1841
    @jacklenz1841 12 днів тому

    The preview of the new DMG had a big focus on flushing out the magic item crafting system which is only going to make this build skyrocket in power and versatility!

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 12 днів тому

      Yeah I wish I knew that BEFORE I made the video lol

  • @WizO774
    @WizO774 12 днів тому

    Wow I am making one of these

  • @1979ce
    @1979ce 12 днів тому

    So how many scrolls do you need to run this build for one 4 round fight?

  • @Razdasoldier
    @Razdasoldier 12 днів тому

    I want to point out that if your dm allows an illusionist bracers by taking ready truestrike. Per the rules of the ready action, you cast the spell as normal holding the release of the spell. This means it triggers the bracers allowing you to bonus action cast the cantrip.

    • @LoreFoundry
      @LoreFoundry День тому

      So you would hold your Action to expend your Bonus action and Reaction to cast True strike with a magic item?

    • @Razdasoldier
      @Razdasoldier День тому

      @LoreFoundry you would get double sneak attack. So it would be 2(3d6+1d8+8d6+5) roughly

  • @jonathanhaynes9914
    @jonathanhaynes9914 12 днів тому

    Thanks Mike.

  • @leslierobinson8724
    @leslierobinson8724 12 днів тому

    Yes please.

  • @jasongruss3777
    @jasongruss3777 12 днів тому

    One thing to consider is that readying true strike takes your reaction. This would make Shield and Absorb Elements less useful. Not useless just less useful. By the way, using Dissonant Whispers via scroll in a party with multiple melee might generate more damage, just not from the Rogue (who used their reaction for the casting and would not get the Opp Attack).

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 12 днів тому

      Readying an action doesn’t take a reaction. It takes the action. The reaction is used when you cast the spell. But yeah, your general point is a good one. Again, you’re not always using true strike off turn. Lots of flexibility with other scrolls and magic items.

    • @jasongruss3777
      @jasongruss3777 12 днів тому

      @@cmccbuilds8229absolutely. You are much more precise than I was. The precision in rules like this are totally required! Thanks! And thank you for capturing my intent. *Using* the readied action would be the reaction. If you use the reaction on the start of the very next turn all the time, then you would consistently be using your reaction for True Strike. WHICH IS AWESOME! Predictable reaction attacks are the dream for rogues. My intent was to point out that using the ready action costs not only your action, but your reaction.

  • @GreyGramarye
    @GreyGramarye 12 днів тому

    No question that this works per RAW. But… it just shouldn’t. The idea that you gotta do this weird action economy hack for mega damage just screams “exploit” to me. I mind it less with Haste (because it’s a resource, there’s a risk factor, etc) than here. I’m coming around to the view that sneak attack dice should have been doubled and sneak attack limited to 1/round.

    • @yodaleiaheehoo9960
      @yodaleiaheehoo9960 12 днів тому

      I agree RAW this certainly works but was this intended? I would say no personally and I wouldn't allow this at my table nor would I subject another DM to these kind of shenanigans. Don't get me wrong it's fun to theory craft about and explore the possibilities but I think builds with these kinds of exploits contribute to the bad rep that min/maxers get. But as always with D&D to each their own.

  • @brannenpfister2579
    @brannenpfister2579 12 днів тому

    Would this be any better than a war cleric rogue? High elf same build take true strike and use WIS over int? Then you don’t even need to scribe scrolls, and just reverse the attack order. BA attack with war cleric, hold action to true strike. No scroll necessary. Does need 3 in cleric tho. You’d probably still want one wizard too for the spell list. But still, seems more table efficient without the need of scrolls. Maybe arcane trickster could help with scrolls.

    • @cmccbuilds8229
      @cmccbuilds8229 12 днів тому

      3 in cleric is rough here and it’s limited and it’s an attack vs true strike casting and you need to progress dex and casting stat pretty closely (more closely than I did)

    • @brannenpfister2579
      @brannenpfister2579 12 днів тому

      @@cmccbuilds8229Ahhhh you’re so right. It’s not true strike 2x a round. True true ty

  • @generalprinny5561
    @generalprinny5561 12 днів тому

    How disappointing, you ignore the part of Magic Action that calls out magic items vs spells... oh well, I can run with that ruling. You don't need a Wizard dip to cast true strike as a bonus action, because according to the logic shown at the six minute mark, you can use a magic item (Ruby of the War Mage) to take the Magic Action (cast a spell) to cast true strike as a bonus action using fast hands. With my optimization you can now spend your gold on your Bastion instead of on spell scrolls. It also highly amuses me that Fast Hands never requires you to use your hands at all, so long as you take the magic action and a magic item is involved. I also have something to look forward to, as Fast Hands can also use Class features as bonus actions. Using the magic item Amulet of the Devout you can take the magic action to use Channel Divinity as a bonus action. No idea on where that line of thought goes, but it sounds like it could be fun exploring that path for all classes.

    • @grendl74
      @grendl74 12 днів тому

      It's cute how you're still wrong.

    • @generalprinny5561
      @generalprinny5561 12 днів тому

      @grendl74 so you think you cannot use a magic item (Spell Scroll) to take the magic action (Cast a spell) to cast true strike as a bonus action? Odd take, but ok.

    • @grendl74
      @grendl74 12 днів тому

      @@generalprinny5561 Nope, that's not at all what you write. But, hey, go on, I guess?

    • @generalprinny5561
      @generalprinny5561 12 днів тому

      @grendl74 glad to hear you agree with me that you can use a magic item to cast a spell as a bonus action.

  • @ethan7030
    @ethan7030 12 днів тому

    This build seems like it takes a lot of party buy-in and gold from the DM. 15 GP and 8 hours per round of combat seems like an extremely steep cost to measure consistent damage off of unless you're in a really unique campaign. I don't think most campaigns give the players weeks of downtime and hundreds of GP at low levels of play. Even if they do, other players get the benefits of that as well, making a comparison to a baseline that gets no magic item consideration kinda pointless.

    • @Haseo13darkness
      @Haseo13darkness 9 днів тому

      But your like….. also a rogue?…. Every time i play a rogue im robbing NPCs blind, so i feel like you can definitely afford this as a rogue… You can even rob people mid combat with the other fast hands ability….

  • @joshuawilliams8310
    @joshuawilliams8310 12 днів тому

    Awesome. Now figure out Arcane Trickster.