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Sam Harris & Yuval Harari - What Is the Internet Doing to Us?
Waking Up With Sam Harris #68 - Reality and the Imagination (with Yuval Noah Harari)
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Sam Harris & Yuval Harari - Technoreligions & Singularity
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Waking Up With Sam Harris #68 - Reality and the Imagination (with Yuval Noah Harari) Listen to Sam Harris and the Waking Up Podcast on : soundcloud.com/samharrisorg For more information visit: www.samharris.org
Sam Harris & Yuval Harari - Fake News Phenomena
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Waking Up With Sam Harris #68 - Reality and the Imagination (with Yuval Noah Harari) Listen to Sam Harris and the Waking Up Podcast on : soundcloud.com/samharrisorg For more information visit: www.samharris.org
Sam Harris & Yuval Harari - Meditation, Religion & God
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Sam Harris & Yuval Harari - Virtual Reality & Meaning of Life
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Waking Up With Sam Harris #68 - Reality and the Imagination (with Yuval Noah Harari) Listen to Sam Harris and the Waking Up Podcast on : soundcloud.com/samharrisorg For more information visit: www.samharris.org
Sam Harris & Yuval Harari - Our Conscious Experience
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Waking Up With Sam Harris #68 - Reality and the Imagination (with Yuval Noah Harari) Listen to Sam Harris and the Waking Up Podcast on : soundcloud.com/samharrisorg For more information visit: www.samharris.org
Sam Harris & Yuval Harari - Suffering Makes Us Real
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Waking Up With Sam Harris #68 - Reality and the Imagination (with Yuval Noah Harari) Listen to Sam Harris and the Waking Up Podcast on : soundcloud.com/samharrisorg For more information visit: www.samharris.org
Sam Harris & Yuval Harari - Globalism Vs. Nationalism
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Waking Up With Sam Harris #68 - Reality and the Imagination (with Yuval Noah Harari) Listen to Sam Harris and the Waking Up Podcast on: soundcloud.com/samharrisorg For more information visit: www.samharris.org
Sam Harris - Echo Chamber Mentality & Online Media
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Sam Harris - Descartes Cogito & Consciousness
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Sam Harris - Anti-aging Movement & Mortality
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Sam Harris "Trump Is a Child In a Man's Body"
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Sam Harris - How to Reach Out to The Muslim World
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Sam Harris - Muslim Ban, Trump & Free Speech
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Sam Harris Opinion on Milo Yiannopoulos & Berkeley Protest
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Sam Harris - Paul Bloom & Empathy
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Sam Harris - Paul Bloom & Empathy
Sam Harris - Disagreement With Jordan Peterson
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Sam Harris - Disagreement With Jordan Peterson
Sam Harris - Are Humanities Useful?
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Sam Harris - Are Humanities Useful?
Sam Harris Fake News & Future of Technology
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Sam Harris Fake News & Future of Technology
Sam Harris - Morality Inherited From Evolution
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Sam Harris - Morality Inherited From Evolution
Sam Harris About The Soul & Energy
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Sam Harris About The Soul & Energy
Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson: What is Truth? Darwinism & Pragmatism
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Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson: What is Truth? Darwinism & Pragmatism
Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson About Gender Pronouns and Freedom of Speech
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Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson About Gender Pronouns and Freedom of Speech
Sam Harris On Brussels Attacks
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Sam Harris On Brussels Attacks
Sam Harris About Translating His Books to Arabic
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Sam Harris About Translating His Books to Arabic
Sam Harris Anxiety and Meditation
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Sam Harris Anxiety and Meditation
Sam Harris Fame & Ego
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Sam Harris Fame & Ego
Sam Harris History of Islam
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Sam Harris History of Islam
Sam Harris If 9 11 Never Happened
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Sam Harris If 9 11 Never Happened
Sam Harris Immortality
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Sam Harris Immortality

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  • @junevandermark952
    @junevandermark952 6 днів тому

    Thanks for honoring freedom of speech. Being that Jordan is a died in the wool Christian Conservative ... had the Conservatives been in power in Canada ... do you think that he would have made up a story that Pierre Poilievre was trying to take away freedom of speech from Canadians? And are you aware that the want-to-be Conservative Prime Minister of Canada Pierre Poilievre played party politics by supporting Jordan's lie? And that means that Pierre doesn’t have any respect whatsoever for The Board of Psychologists or the Ontario Court system … whose members have and had every right to decide whether Jordan Peterson ... as a psychologist ... needed retraining. “Ontario Court rules against Jordan Peterson, upholds social media training order Peterson's battle with the college has won him allies among freedom of expression advocates, and drawn support from public figures like Conservative Party Leader Pierre Poilievre and Tesla and Twitter boss Elon Musk.” Donald Trump also overruled the court system in the United States to set one of his “friends” free from incarceration. Is THAT what we want in Canada? You had better think long and HARD on that issue. Playing (party) politics (while depriving the court system of its power) is a very dangerous slope to slide down.

  • @archiethebold2000
    @archiethebold2000 24 дні тому

    Male circumcision is still barbaric

  • @MrPabgon
    @MrPabgon Місяць тому

    I like Sam Harris very much, but I am flabbergasted at this video. If you study math, Arab names come up all the time from the contributions they made in that golden age. Of the stars that have names, 2/3 are Arabic, because of their contributions. There were also advancements in medicine, optics, physics, metaphysics. Not "some contributions to optics or something like that". This is a massive, massive misrepresentation. I'm incredibly disappointed on Sam here.

  • @charlottegranger1449
    @charlottegranger1449 2 місяці тому

    The so called Islamic “Golden Age” is based on all the accumulated knowledge of other cultures that Muslims claimed that they achieved such as the Arab Pagans, Hindus, Babylonians, Phoenicians, Assyrians etc. Also when it comes to oppression & violence both Christianity & Islam are responsible for the regression of humanity, and have a history going back to their origins of oppression & violence

  • @gailalbers1430
    @gailalbers1430 2 місяці тому

    I am disappointed that Sam is legitimizing a weak nutcase like Jordan through debating him.

  • @puma14all
    @puma14all 2 місяці тому

    “A photo of a man’s wife in bed with another man does not prove an affair “ 1:33:05

  • @James.473
    @James.473 2 місяці тому

    We already have the story of Jesus Christ given to us by God Almighty Creator of everything that is, was and will be. Jesus Christ came to establish the church and died on the cross and rose on the third day so we can be save from ourselves and be with The Father in heaven.

  • @EricAnderson58
    @EricAnderson58 2 місяці тому

    profoundly deluded. demented. #intactivism

  • @kevincleveland763
    @kevincleveland763 2 місяці тому

    Mr. Harris, your historical dialogue on Islam was good but shallow; there has never been a time when Islam was truly peaceful. They have sometimes been covert in their animosity towards others, but that is the extent of it. If they negotiate peace as soon as they have the power, they will break their treaty. Of course, you probably know, so the real reason for this comment is to tell you. That you’re prejudiced, and I do not mean racist. You cited Christianity as being a problem. Yes, several Popes and other powerful church officials have slowed the progress of science, and so have Jewish officials. And in the 10th century, a Muslim official outlawed all scientific pursuits! These were individual people, the priest who discovered genetics through his experiments with garden peas. The development of botany and biology science was done through the efforts of either Catholic or Protestant clergy. Your generation of intellectuals has bought into the lie that all worthwhile science is discovered by atheists. Obviously, you are not a historian because history tells the opposite story.

  • @chrisvanleuven1771
    @chrisvanleuven1771 2 місяці тому

    No it’s just suffering .

  • @angusdog22
    @angusdog22 3 місяці тому

    I’m sorry, I don’t want our future decided by Utopian visionaries like Harrari. He calls decisions based on “stupidity” but what makes him so smart? Does he really have the arrogance to think he could do better?

  • @angusdog22
    @angusdog22 3 місяці тому

    A one world government would be dystopian. If you don’t think so look at every single Communist regime in history. It’s supposed to be good for EVERYONE just like globalism.

  • @windigo77
    @windigo77 4 місяці тому

    Sam Harris is a piece of trash and he should be thrown in the fucking garbage where he belongs

  • @Sudhir-d5s
    @Sudhir-d5s 4 місяці тому

    Sam, you have stated some nonsense about Hinduism and India, and your comparison to Western values is completely flawed and intellectually shallow…. Firstly, Sati was a fringe practice that goes against the tenets of the Bhagavad Gita (one of the major Hindu texts) since suicide is considered to be the biggest sin. It was very rare, and had been abolished at times before the British came. The caste system is not an integral part of Hindu religious belief, but more of a societal issue; think about it, what caste are the Hare Krishnas (they don’t have any caste, but are still Hindus)? The caste system has been blown out of proportion by the West. How does the caste system compare to the brutal slavery that the West was responsible for against Africans and then the racist attitudes of the West towards other human beings? Remember MLK drew inspiration from Gandhi, an Indian, in order to rid segregation of the African Americans in the U.S. The West has been responsible for witch burnings, slavery, racism, genocide (Native Americans, Jews in WWII), brutal imperialism, segregation, oppression of homosexuals, and the dropping of atomic bombs that incinerated over 200,000 innocent children, women, and men, numerous wars and support of cruel regimes all over the world, etc. The West still eats animals on a daily basis and displayed a total disregard for non-human life. The progress that the west has made has primarily been made possible with the exploitation of other humans. The British empire, extracted resources from other lands. The U.S. was established on the territory of Native Americans after stealing their land and killing them off, and was made prosperous economically by the forced labor of slaves taken from Africa. Essentially, while the West certainly has produced many great inventions, don’t forget that witch burnings, imperialism, slavery, genocide, segregation, stealing land, the atomic bomb, apartheid, etc. are also Western “advances”. In contrast, the Hindu civilization (India), which is thousands of years older, has not participated in any imperialism whatsoever. India never invaded any other country, was devoid of slavery, respected the sanctity of all sentient life; it gave the world tenets of nonviolence, spirituality, yoga, vegetarianism, notion of karma, etc…. 70% of the world’s vegetarians are in India, showing how comparatively backward the west is with respect to respecting the sanctity of all life…In India, do you see kids being shot up in schools? The rest of the world is confused by the obsession of guns in the U.S. and the inability to protect children at school…It’s needless to say that spiritually, India has always been far advanced compared to the West. And don’t forget the fact that the divorce rate in the U.S. is 50% compared to 1% percent in India. And western countries on average have a very high divorce rate. Effectively what that suggests is that the west has completely failed miserably compared to a place like India when it comes to the institution of marriage. What good are all the inventions when you can’t even keep a family unit together?…In countries like India, parents are respected, and taken care of whereas in large part in the West, the elderly are just thrown into nursing homes. How advanced is that? Are those human rights? Let me reiterate that India has been spiritually, way more advanced, and has shown more success in keeping families together than the West… Incidentally, Hinduism is one of the few religions in the world that does not condemn homosexuality, in contrast to the Western religions. India has had a female head of the country, Hinduism is the only religion in the world that worships the feminine form and energy. India just passed a bill that would insure 30% of seats in the parliament reserved for women. Has the U.S. done that? So where are the human rights? India has been accepting toward every religion for thousands of years. It is one of the few countries in the world in which there was no discrimination or hatred against the Jews. So I suggest that you rethink your notion of human rights being a western invention, particularly in the context of the holocaust, hatred towards Jews, racism, segregation, etc. Overall, the Indian civilization has shown a far greater respect for life and has killed (and inflicted pain upon) less number of both human beings and other sentient living creatures compared to the West. With respect to the West and India, next time maybe you should think more broadly and do some homework before talking. You don’t want a “pot calling the kettle black” (a Western phrase) situation.

  • @rupeshkumaryadavv
    @rupeshkumaryadavv 4 місяці тому

    Two of the Great thinker, we have.

  • @southchum101
    @southchum101 5 місяців тому

    This guy is off. The soul exists, you can’t measure it.

  • @Zeeshan-bv7mo
    @Zeeshan-bv7mo 5 місяців тому

    Yuval Noah Harari is the 5th Horseman - 🐴

  • @thomasdidymus1393
    @thomasdidymus1393 5 місяців тому

    SAM NAILED TRUMP 8 YEARS AGO AND HIS ANALYSIS HAS AGED LIKE A FINE WINE 🍷.

  • @jqyhlmnp
    @jqyhlmnp 5 місяців тому

    The other good stuff 😭

  • @tulip5677
    @tulip5677 6 місяців тому

    The worst thing about the plane isn't that it's in the air, it's that it's a little cramped tube that I can't get out of until after landing, a claustrophobic feeling and a trapped feeling that's at its worst when the plane starts rolling and it's too late to get off. Larger planes with more interior space are somewhat easier to deal with than smaller ones. Other closed in and/or trapped situations (like cave tours with narrow tunnels and getting MRIs) are also difficult. Closing my eyes during takeoff helps, and after reaching cruising altitude, getting lost in distractions helps. During an MRI a year ago, keeping my eyes closed and focusing on the patterns of the sounds helped. The anxiety of panic attacks tends to come in waves. At the peak of a wave, there's a very heavy sense of impending doom, then after a little time passes the severity comes down though not completely, but then it comes up again to another horrible peak, over and over and over again. After a severe panic attack episode, hours to days of not feeling well physically and being emotionally shaken up. Tried CBT decades ago, didn't help. Paxil (SSRI) helped though it caused weight gain. Have recently started trying meditation a little bit but not yet a consistent or dedicated practice. I've been wondering lately if there might be a way to try to desensitize at home such as if there was a simulated flight option through a VR headset or somewhere a bunch of videos of flying from the point of view of the seat on a plane to maybe habituate to the visual cues that trigger panic, because it's too expensive to fly frequently enough to desensitize that way. There's probably no single solution or simple solution for severe anxiety, and different treatments or combinations of treatments are likely to be more suitable for different people rather than one size fits all.

  • @zippo563
    @zippo563 6 місяців тому

    Sam Harris is a trump derangement nutcase.

    • @majmage
      @majmage 6 місяців тому

      Zip how does that deal with any points made here or even provide a clear, worthwhile criticism on the separate topic you've veered off towards?

  • @shubecklinechemanjiayunwi961
    @shubecklinechemanjiayunwi961 6 місяців тому

    Honestly i feel Jordan Peterson was just troll throughout the conversation, truth can not be grounded on the basis on survival, that undermines the whole word and it is very dangerous.

  • @sethreidnz1
    @sethreidnz1 7 місяців тому

    I was circumsized as an adult because it was causing me issues being too tight. I can say that there is very little difference in sensation for me, and it solved my problems. I don't agree with doing it to children by default though, but I agree with Sam that the effects are minimal if at all noticable, at least for me.

  • @stephenrandell7152
    @stephenrandell7152 7 місяців тому

    Genital mutilation is Genital mutilation!

  • @AncientRylanor69
    @AncientRylanor69 7 місяців тому

    s

  • @orangedragons1
    @orangedragons1 7 місяців тому

    Is this on spotify?

  • @Mike_Lennox
    @Mike_Lennox 8 місяців тому

    Jordan’s viewpoint is predicated on Stockholm syndrome, not well-being.

  • @johnv2681
    @johnv2681 8 місяців тому

    What a disgusting take, Sam. You should be ashamed

  • @truthseeker-wj1iu
    @truthseeker-wj1iu 8 місяців тому

    Iran was a Zoroastrian country with a sizeable number of Christians, Jews, Buddhists living there before the savage onslaught of Muslim Arabs in the 7th century. With massacres after massacres , Iranian were submitted to the rule of invaders. Many were forced by sword and many more through unjust treatment under colonial, discriminatory, and repressive Sharia law, converted to Islam. Iran was a great nation of Art, industry, architecture, culture and civilization when Muslim Arabs with their peaceful religion, invaded and plundered it.

  • @yhvhsaves5197
    @yhvhsaves5197 9 місяців тому

    Two f465, One b3d. Cool stories, bros!

  • @kersschot
    @kersschot 9 місяців тому

    Douglas visited my home in the 90s. He was .. headless. And Richard Lang is a great guy as well. Just egoless Space.

  • @phrozen17
    @phrozen17 9 місяців тому

    Wtf Stoicism wasn't even mentioned

  • @a-font
    @a-font 9 місяців тому

    Jordan Peterson is literally a postmodernist in denial

    • @odysseynoone3831
      @odysseynoone3831 9 місяців тому

      No he didn't say there's no such a thing as truth, he was saying there are levels of truth

  • @canyegane2406
    @canyegane2406 10 місяців тому

    i can feel Sam's frustration with Jordan disagreeing on a very simple concept, the guy is a master of obfuscation and fuzz

  • @DanielF892
    @DanielF892 10 місяців тому

    Objective morality by evolution I don’t think works. Because evolution doesn’t necessarily keep you accountable for your actions. If morality comes from evolution, then all our morals come from evolution, including “evil ones.” If there is no god, there are no oughts, just is. Your not obligated by anything. Even if it is wrong, why listen to it if you can benefit more listening to your selfish desires.

  • @rayrwyr
    @rayrwyr 11 місяців тому

    By the estimates of historians, during the Mughal period in India, at least 80 million Hindus were killed and countless more were converted by sword and sold to slavery by the Islamic rulers. Hundreds of thousands of Hindu temples were destroyed in North India and Central India. Some of the most important ones were converted into Mosques in order to showcase Islamic conquest. These atrocities including this largest genocide in the human history were done in the name of Islam. So Islamic barbarism is not a recent phenonmenon. Quran teaches exactly this kind of behavior.

  • @Mr_badjoke
    @Mr_badjoke 11 місяців тому

    Here's the gig man. as far as inner turmoil goes.... they take the cake!

  • @Antigegner
    @Antigegner 11 місяців тому

    Comparing FGM and MGM is NOT done to minimize the horrors of what females go through it is made to emphasize that BOTH are done without consent, are mutilations and done because of religious nonsense. I have never met anybody mentioning FGM in relation to MGM to minimize FGM. Please also keep in mind that there are varying degrees of FGM and some (see Malaysia for example) remove far less tissue than a male circumcision. I repeat again: FGM is (for the most part) worse but it's both Genital Mutilation without consent and done because of religious/superstitious nonsense. Any mutilation to the human body should only be done with consent or if it's necessary due to health issues that make it necessary. Even with consent, it is very much debatable on what ground that "consent" should be considered an acceptable one (who actually may give consent, what age does the consent giver have/need to give consent, what are the reasons, what harm does it cause, etc., etc., etc.).

  • @pyb.5672
    @pyb.5672 11 місяців тому

    I wish Peterson would realize that his confusion about truth in the paradigm of pragmatism comes from reading too much James and too little Peirce.

  • @Love1isall
    @Love1isall 11 місяців тому

    I don't understand what JP is arguing here. Is he saying truth is subjective?

    • @odysseynoone3831
      @odysseynoone3831 9 місяців тому

      No he's saying there are levels of truth

    • @Love1isall
      @Love1isall 9 місяців тому

      @@odysseynoone3831 that's an excuse, to avoid the absolute objective truth.

  • @andyward2958
    @andyward2958 11 місяців тому

    So the Soul could not possibly be a form of energy as yet undiscovered by science, a form of energy that carries your nature/personality as potential? If not can you explain to me how personality traits such as tolerance, empathy, honesty, creativity and the like manifest themselves in our brain's structure and processes and describe how the brain employs these qualities to for example make a decision? I hope you can because I'm not aware of any other human on the planet who can.

  • @MrCoww
    @MrCoww 11 місяців тому

    Sam seems to undermine that he doesn’t understand that, on the the most micro level, there is no such thing as empirical truth because he presupposes that truth can be instantiated by measurement and precise calculation. I need a metaphysical framework of reality to use my consciousness to instantiate the existence of a cup. I don’t need to measure it. Also, what we perceive as true is like seeing a part of a photo, think that part which you see is a face, only to analyze is from a macro lens to see it was a pattern on a tree. That means what you that was true wasn’t actually true. It was true based on your presuppositions. I think this is what Jordan is saying.

  • @Mike_Lennox
    @Mike_Lennox 11 місяців тому

    Jordan's hidden reasons change truth based on his identity's survival concerns. Jordan has said that up into his twenties, he lied 95% of the time. Lying (hiding and pretending) is a strategy to cope and survive captivity in an incompetence hierarchy. An emotional incompetence hierarchy is a social and emotional predicament in which a child is held developmentally captive by incompetent parenting-- threatening their survival. Sam is missing conscious consideration of the hidden reasons behind the viewpoint from which Jordan is looking. Jordan's limitations and reasoning only make sense looking from the viewpoint of a boy who is trying to cope and survive by being "nested inside" of his parents' delusional hierarchies.

  • @rodzilla7767
    @rodzilla7767 Рік тому

    Ok I’m not even close to being smart enough to understand what the conversation was about however it was interesting thank you both 😅

    • @MrCoww
      @MrCoww 11 місяців тому

      Hi. :) you are smart. Say is saying truth is definite. Jordan is saying truth is only a measurement from a level of certain analysis. Besides his articulation, Sam is ultimately wrong.

    • @majmage
      @majmage 6 місяців тому

      Rod it's simple 1. Truth is the set of facts about reality. 2. Peterson wants to champion a bad idea. (An idea we don't have evidence is true: that god(s) exist.) 3. So he redefines truth to both (a) the set of facts of reality and also (b) things which help us survive. 4. It's a clearly dishonest and self-contradicting definition. (A gunmaker makes a gun someone uses to kill the gunmaker. Is it true the gun works? Well Peterson would have to answer both yes (because the gun worked) and no (because the gun killed the maker).)

  • @karimahmady4943
    @karimahmady4943 Рік тому

    This shill is a zog bot that attacks islam and Christianity. You never hear him speak about Judaism (more vile than quran and bible combined) How come sam harris NEVER mentions pedophilia of his own religion practice Metzitzah B'peh. He is an agent of the Zionist to make you hate other religions except his satanic one that does pedophilia and killing innocent Palestinians

    • @karimahmady4943
      @karimahmady4943 Рік тому

      Someone prove me wrong and show me where he mentions jewish pedophilia ritual happen TO THIS DAY IN NORTH AMERICA AND OTHER EUROPEAN NATIONS

  • @Gouda_travels
    @Gouda_travels Рік тому

    The moment you realize that such a short video has the potential to reshape the course of your life. The ideas are simple but presented in a subtle way.

  • @bradleymarshall5489
    @bradleymarshall5489 Рік тому

    He realizes all stoic philosophers thought atheism was on par with abandoning reason altogther and often debated against Epicureans who denied providence right? Even David Hume held that belief.

  • @jaylouis6156
    @jaylouis6156 Рік тому

    I’ve been listening more to Jordan recently, and listening to this conversation a second time REALLY made me understand Jordan’s position. While I agree with Sam, Jordan is making a different claim, and I understand why he’s doing it.

    • @Wildminecraftwolf
      @Wildminecraftwolf 9 місяців тому

      joran thinks religion is a usefull fiction.

    • @jaylouis6156
      @jaylouis6156 9 місяців тому

      @@Wildminecraftwolf yes, but it made me question how deep fiction mirrors/creates reality

    • @Wildminecraftwolf
      @Wildminecraftwolf 9 місяців тому

      @@jaylouis6156 yea the mind can construct elaborate and internaly consistant delusions, its job is to simulate reality based on inputs after all. if you input the bible you can get one reality, but that does not mean there is not an objective external reality, it better to base your internal model of reality on empiricisim and rationality rather than a usefull ficion.

    • @odysseynoone3831
      @odysseynoone3831 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Wildminecraftwolfno he's saying what you refer to as fiction is actually more real and true than mere facts observable in the objective world. You think the scientific framework is the only viable way in which to view things. But you don't realize that you're making that presupposition because it seems self evident. But the scientific viewpoint is actually a recent invention.

    • @Wildminecraftwolf
      @Wildminecraftwolf 9 місяців тому

      @odysseynoone3831 I know he's saying that, I just disagree, listen to his pangburn talks with Sam harris, he dismantles his arguments quite well. When he says it more "real" he's saying it's more usefull, peterson is kind of disingenuous with his wordplay in this area.

  • @FHBStudio
    @FHBStudio Рік тому

    If you can tell someone's beliefs from their actions, such as if you believe you can fly you will jump off a high place without hesitation, then no one believes misgendering and the pronoun game are actually real things. If you refer to any normal person by the wrong pronouns, it doesn't even register, or at worst doesn't even phase them. Meaning, that is the normal reaction of someone who knows the truth of who/what they are. Therefore we can deduce that if someone has a very divergent reaction, it casts severe doubt on what they profess to believe about themselves. They know the truth, they just don't like it. And they want the rest of the population to also deny the truth.

  • @FHBStudio
    @FHBStudio Рік тому

    Imagine someone having the pronouns massa/massa's.