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No. Great try but... Starting point begins in another 40 years.

Im kinda feeling like Akkala Citadel ruins is supposed to be lesser Hyrule's castle or at least thats my head canon since theres no other lore attatched to it

6:27 Shouldn't there actually be, at least, 2 splits - if not an infinity (but still resulting in 3 distinct timelines) ? 1 split at the very end of the game (which, obviously, can only happen if the Hero Of Time is victorious) that leads to 2 timelines + 1 split any time the Hero Of Time is defeated, at any point in the story, BEFORE defeating Ganon ? In fact, every single time the player gets a game over, the number next to the save file increases. This could indicate that, every single time a player gets a game over in Ocarina Of Time, a new split is created, resulting in the Failure Timeline.

It's the LEGEND of Zelda, these are stories being passed down with alterations as they're misremembered, new stories made up for new generations

I did it for her, no matter how many gauntlets, no matter how tough the challenge, no matter the length. The bubble shield generator on my waist, the Iron bond on my chest, the tow rope on my back and the machine gun in my hand shows it. She’s worth every drop of oil I’ve bled, every spark that I’ve shaved, every dent and every short circuit that I’ve experienced. I can trust her with my life, why shouldn’t she with me? After all, we’re either leaving together, or we’ll die trying

They could have avoided that tree of life trouble if they just added a time shift stone to that location somehow. As I’m typing this, I’m realizing that doing that would be sacrificing greater narrative impact for the sake of a minor continuity bug. Nevermind. That said, that did bother me while playing the game!

One thing i don't see talked about with Skyward Sword's time travel, in this video and comments, is that all the things that happen up to the temple falling on The Imprisoned are the part of the plan that Hylia the goddess of time planned to happen. Her plan after realizing that the seal on Demise wouldn't hold was to have a mortal use the Triforce to wish for Demises defeat. They then set up trials that would ensure that who ever touch/obtained the Triforce had equal parts courage wisdom and power and had good intent. At the same time she knew that her power couldn't keep the seal on Demise forever and would weaken over time. So she gave up her goddess powers to reincarnate into Zelda so that she could then go through her purification and gain her memories of being Hylia and then seal herself in the temple to strengthen the seal on Demise while she tasked Link with the task of obtaining the Triforce and destroying Demise. All of this happened the way the Hylia planned, for the most part. Per Impa Zelda arrived earlier then intended due to Ghirahim interference but still played out how she planned. However this does bring up the point that while things did play out the way she planned for she can't plan for other/evil beings interference i.e. Demise's sword Ghirahim Which brings us to the final boss. Hylia did not and could not account for Ghirahim's actions including his time travel to the past to awaken Demise. Thus one could argue that because Hylia the GODDESS OF TIME planed for Zelda's loop and maybe even the Dragon's correction these time travel instances wouldn't cause a split while Ghirahim's actions could because this was an evil being usurping the power of time travel.

I believe that zelda causes a timeline split because she is the sage of time, so her usage of the ocarina is somehow more powerful. I think this explanation is better supported and feels more significant than the difference being whether the ocarina sends itself back, and it resolves the issues with majora time travel better. Or we could use a mixed explanation, maybe the ocarina can only manipulate te timeline it's currently in, whether its moving timeline or not, the timelime always follows it, *except* when a powerful sage of time uses it, allowing for a timeline to exist with no ocarina inside it (the child timeline)

Wow, this sent me back.

The Song of Storms secondary effect is to create Storm The Primary effect is going around and around

TotK between Skyward and Ocarina makes no sense to me. And obviously it cant take place before Skyward because that just makes no sense. The memories have to be after all the other games but before the rise of Calamity Ganon

This was a well thought out video! Nice work!

this is needless and stupid, but I still played it as background noise during the whole video. nice work

Maybe Turn the maps to match them up better?

"the link to the past video" lmao 😂🤣

The tears memories are after all the other games

Also, the breach of demise in botw is near the forgotten temple. Further connecting it to skyward sword

The sealed temple is not the great plateau. Its the forgotten temple in tabantha. That temple has the exact same design, layout and hylia statue. Plus the loftwing drawings in the walls

I fucking love "IF THIS IS A GUN THAT SHOOTS FIREBALLS, WHY IS IT FULL OF BEES?!?!"

I wrote this while still watching(on mobile so bad editing) the events of ocarina of time cause a paradox this much is obvious. The split may occur because link goes back in time to before he gets the ocarina. Link also seemingly replaces his past self in this new history. Perhaps its the fact he replaces his past self rather than coexisting with him that causes the split, perhaps its the potential for him to not fulfill the prophecy that immediately breaks the timeline when he is sent back as a form of correction, allowing all plausible outcomes simultaneously. like writing text ontop of the current page of the book of history(weird analogy i know).

Cool video and all but who burnt down the building was someone trying to frame Jimb the Bee-stly gun stinger? I need more on Jimb and his bee gun does it have like an alt fire that shoots out a queen bee that makes all other bees lock onto the Queen's pheromones like a seeking missile or something and is there a dark counterpart who shoots wasps or hornets?

🎉here’s to another “successful” stream 🍻

26:19 actually he probably did draw the master sword one more time after Majora's mask, The hero's shade has the master sword's sheath who is in fact the hero of Time. So if that's the case TP Link is more than likely traveling to that period in time, mainly because it seems like some type of war happened after Link grew up which probably forced him to pull the sword again.

12:32 I'm pretty sure I've went back to see if it was in the past and the block was, And if I misremembering it I definitely have seen out of balance footage of it

The master sword would be a causality weapon, ala BlazBlue.

9:20 So the theory is the ocarina of time holds the perspective of time if it stays behind it's still there to persevere that timeline. P.s. the hero shade has the master swords scabbard so obviously drew the sacred sword at some point in the child timeline and moved it to the sacred Grove thus explaining why it wasn't in the past temple of time. As for why the shard ended up in the pasted idk maybe it was the gods who placed it there so Link would get the rod.

16:12 perhaps the stone from the bridge was used for somthing else

Once again, map mirroring could help with lining up minish cap. twilight princess's map was mirrored just between GC and Wii, completely changing its layout. Therefore we can probably do the same with the map of minish cap and other older nes/snes/gb games

If we are going to be honest about splits Link has probably caused a few TVA aneurisms. Also, it is revealed that Zelda innately has the power of time. Her using the ocarina of time is going to have significantly more powerful effects.

I think its a good thing they esentialy merge the timelines in the new totk masterworks that apeared yesterday in japan. Now we can rest easy knowing all the time line before oot architecture debate was stupid and this man knows whay he is talking about.

Didn't Nintendo release a Master timeline recently that screws up the continuity even more?

And then there's Windwaker Unflooded ua-cam.com/video/Zkuxrg68W8A/v-deo.html

This is interesting, but i want to point out that map mirroring is something that nintendo has done, which could help with the lesser hyrule placement with minish cap and four swords

My headcanon is that the *legends* don't make sense since they are made of stories your grandma told you as a child... so Rauru being both a furry king and an old man/owl sage at the same time makes sense to me, as well as the inconsistencies of the fruit of life, zelda's amberstone and and the song of storms... the multiple timelines is adressed in breath of the wild's side quests related to the leviathan remains, they are multiple explanations of past events with different theories as to what transpired... legends are inconsistent, so of course, we should be able to think about such inconsistencies as being inconsistencies themselves within the story... maybe the real version of the events in skyward sword don't involve the fruit of life, or maybe wind waker never lost the hero of time right after ocarina of time but way after that, and maybe the sages in twilight princess and a link to the past aren't a bunch of old hylians but people of every race in hyrule, maybe the hero of time was duplicated 7 years after link took the master sword and maybe the temple of time wasn't THAT ruined in twilight princess... maybe it wasn't even in the forest but in a high plateau you couldn't reach. And What if there weren't more temples in wind waker but different interpretations of existing ones, forest = wind after all... fire and earth are also volcanic with the earth temple being in the same general location as the fire sanctuary in skyward sword and wind waker's earth temple being related to life and death like the spirit temple or the shadow temple... IT'S ALL A MESS, NOT JUST TIME TRAVEL And that's okay, because it's the Legend of Zelda, not the History of Zelda

I know people have probably already said it, but I vaguely remember a sign inside of a little passage in to the kingdom. I’ll probably come back if I remember and put the coordinates that said. Something along the lines of “ The seal will stay intact as long as the castle is Intact” And it was like because of that reason that’s why the calamity happened under the castle, and the castle was kinda like the seal holding him like how the master sword was Gondorf seal into the legend of Zelda Wind Waker

Jimbs bees got caught on fire

12:40 it's not the second calamity. There were many calamities before

I'll also point out that in OoT, as child, if you leave a chest closed, or a golden skultula alive, or don't collect a heart piece you can later open the chest or grab the skull/HP as adult, at which point, you can return as child and those things will suddenly be gone. so, maybe it's just best not to think about it...

I'm not sure if there are any instances of SoT blocks _moving_ rather than disappearing or materializing, it's just that there are times where you're close enough to trigger a block disappearing and appearing simultaneously, and you can sometimes position Link in such a way to trigger only one of the two at a time.

I wonder how many people actually try to put Tingle 2 into the timeline. because that game's almost _explicitly_ not canon, and even if it wasn't it's not like the game really has much to say about the series as a whole. at least with Rosy Rupeeland there are some themes and concepts that tie it back to the core games. also, that game's kinda, like, actually good.

36:25 That's how I see it too. The Gate of Time would work as self-correcting time travel as long as the gate remains open. But because Impa who went to the past with Zelda closed it, all the time travel became a causal loop. So yeah, until Link goes to the past with a second gate, what always happened before that was Zelda sealing herself alone with Impa, giving her the bracelet then.

11:16 good memories…

The one big thing that helped me make sense of all this was the fact that you know, the Downfall Timeline was its own separate universe. So, it has its own parallel counterparts to Skyward Sword, Minish Cap, FSA, and OoT where that universe's version of Link incarnation as the Hero of Time was murdered, helped this out a lot. The next thing that helped me was subscribing to the notion that in theoretical physics, universes can bump into each other, triggering another universe to be born, I extrapolated that to this franchise and if you think about it, it's VERY possible, if I dare say, even probable.. It's a different take on the placement of BotW and TotK which is similar to the Refounding Post-Timeline Hypothesis, but also different enough to make its own theory. I know this is largely a copypasta from your second map theory video I also commented, but it helps all this stuff make a lot more sense. You also need to read about scientific paradoxes and philosophical, especially ontological paradoxes, and how to correct them, sidestep them, loophole them, and leapfrog them. These writers SHOULD HAVE READ INTO THIS SH-T!!

The one big thing that helped me make sense of all this was the fact that you know, the Downfall Timeline was its own separate universe. So, it's own parallel counterparts to Skyward Sword, Minish Cap, FSA, and OoT where that universe's version of Link as the Hero of Time was murdered, helped this out a lot. The next thing that helped me was subscribing to the notion that in theoretical physics, universes can bump into each other, triggering another universe to be born. It's a different take on the placement of BotW and TotK which is similar to the Refounding Post-Timeline Hypothesis, but also different enough to make its own theory and it helps your map theory make more sense. Imagine if the Downfall/Decline universe bumped into the Adult and Child Universes split from their original, that could spawn the universe that led to the events leading to BotW and TotK, the only issue with it is how many centuries or millennia would of a temporal gap between those events would that be? It's open-ended in that regard.

I've just made my way through all your Zelda videos, after they've been in my recommended feel for several weeks. And I'd say you firmly earned my subscribe. Even if the Zelda content isn't always around, it's high enough quality that I'm happy to be along for the ride. Well done, sir.

i woud say every timetraver creates a split but the time line dosnt want to be splitt so it trys to corekt itself and colaps into one or crates a loop . or the timeline splits into wastly difernd direcktions an creates other dimonsions :P

i really enjoyed this video, your channel should be way bigger. :D

that's really good

29:57 Part of me believes the Hero of Men was also the Hero of the Sky, and the reason he didn't use the Master Sword was because he knew Fi was busy whittling away at Demise.

LOZ timelines and theories about them are a waste of time. Other than the titles that were direct sequels like Majoras Mask, Links Awakening etc. were designed as self contained adventures. The only reasons Nintendo released official timeliness for the series was to appease the fans that were overthinking it and milk some more money out of them. The reason the way time travel works so inconsistently is because it's not sci-fi and Nintendo doesn't give a f###. But still fun to watch fans drive themselves insane trying to make it work.