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TheAlternative Project
Приєднався 17 лис 2022
We are a group of dedicated people who love all things MUV LUV Related. We wish to bring the universe to bear in a more informative and deeper light.
Muv Luv Faction Overview: The United Nations
The UN plays a vital role in the world of Muv Luv. Here is an overview of the faction encompassing its founding and its current state by the events of Muv Luv Alternative.
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What are TSFs?
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A video encompassing all the basic yet intricate details of the TSF's inception in the world of muv luv. Took us a while to get the script right to get it voiced and edited. And so with this in mind it's with sadness and gratitude we announce he will no longer be Voicing our videos. and so we thank you Yamamoto for getting us this far! To the people who read this- if you would like to assist us...
What are the BETA?
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What are the BETA? A fitting question for such immeasurable beings. This video explains them while not giving away all the secrets. Credits- Eiren,weiss for assisting in the Script Alester, and Yamamoto for revising and finalizing the script. Yamamoto for VA'ing and editing the video. www.youtube.com/@yamamotomechbattles/about This video is made under fair use we don't own the assets, music, or...
What is Muv Luv?
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Muv Luv is a series of visual novels originally released in 2003. For those who haven't played it, many questions can exist regarding the story and what it encompasses. This video is a general overview made to clarify its key points without the intent to spoil. Standby for future briefings by liking and subscribing to support our team. #muvluv #alternative #unlimited #mecha #beta This video is ...
Alternative Project Introduction
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Welcome to the Alternative Project, an archive of all things regarding the Muv Luv series. Standby for future briefings by liking and subscribing to support our team. #muvluv #alternative #unlimited #mecha #beta This video is made under fair use we don't own any of the assets, music, or media. Music: Jolly Rogers Evan Call
15:01 nah bruh that looks wrong
@@doozeschanyt9554 lol. -G
Why dont they js develop big ass nukes like multiple modern nukes that are larger than the tsar bomb
You will find out why very soon. However ,I will say this. Why would you make your homeland uninhabitable just to kill the enemy?
The simple explanation for me is that *They're Armored Cores*
@@MrSkillIssue_90 but better lol -G
@@thealternativeprojecthow would the tsf pilots react if they encountered a mech that's merely half the size of theirs destroy 2 tsfs at once?
@@av3ry966 Probably wonder how lol. Its a whole can of worms on its own😅 -G
@@thealternativeproject cuts to raven impaling a tsf with its pilebunker
@@av3ry966 lol -G
I hope all of you are good over there, these videos and the stuff on Ymb are some of my favorite finds in years.
We are doing good man thanks! we are just a bit slow atm, real life, change in personnel and such make it difficult to be consistent :< . Glad you love the content! The next vid is being edited with the vid planned after half drafted script wise so in theory there should be less wait. -G
it really shows how pathetic humanity is once our air superiority is taken away.
@@bartomolev6682 id say more about how genius we are to combat any threat. We still have strategic bombers after laser jagd success too. -G
Not a fan of vn so I found this series thru the anime adaptations. I was in the mood for mecha shows so yeah I started with the eclipse one and from then I watched every mu luv anime and for funny reason mu luv alternative was like my third show to watch. I was like prepared for what stuff im in for and kinda wished to see for more horrifying deaths, ofc I know how they kill characters when you least expect it, considering how they did with the others. But man the chomp they fcked me up so hard with that one. I was always on the lookout for those scene where they relax and boom someone's dead and they played me. They got my guard down since I was always wrong when something's gonna go wrong and I totally forgot it. Me being completely unaware and just being invested on his teacher since she's so sweet, the fcking beta chomp her head out of nowhere like what in the actual shit. Honestly one of the few shows that me made feel so awful 💀
@@yurika-rie yeah ahah. The VN did it better tbh though. But im glad even though you dont like the VN you got to experience a integral part of the ride. -G
@@thealternativeprojectI'm not saying that I don't like the actual VN of this title, I haven't even read it. Unfortunately for me my attention span is fcked, VN and LN mediums is hard for me to get into and english being my third language also makes it worse. I watched somebody summarize the entire series just for me to have some closure with this series, overall pretty entertaining title its why im here
The Japanese holding the line for Korean civies? This really is an alternative reality 😂
@@Axeallot The imperial forces hold honor and integrity above all else,even with conflicting chains of command. So its reasonable. -G
The aliens move way too fast for how big they are. I don’t think there are any materials in existence, let alone biologically producible ones, strong enough to withstand that kind of stress, let alone power the motion. The bio lasers are just silly-they would burn out the biological components supporting then long before producing any dangerous level of radiation.
While im not well versed in science an such. From the expanse of lore we do know. They were made to fulfill a purpose and such. The things that made them as well are capable of wayy more outlandish things too. But from a believable standpoint i personally think they are realistic. And as far as we know there isnt any biological things in the same sense of what we know. The BETA dont "eat" for one thing,they run on stuff akin to wireless electrical energy (not accurate but best metaphor i can think up atm) But also its anime ,suspension of belief is also a integral factor ahah. Would be interesting to explore your point using real science though in a video. -G
An enemy specifically conjured up to justify mechs… …and frankly, tanks would still be better at fighting them. Actually, given that armor appears to be pointless, tanks could be made much lighter and more maneuverable. You could use APCs with big guns.
@@michaelbarnard8529 tanks have ERA ,going lighter isnt akways better,protection matters too (or coolness lol) see the IJA Type90 as the most notable in media. Plus there is SPAA ,IFVs etc. Speedy vehicles however even with 120mm and up would not be able to solo the BETA at all even with the support available. For example 1 grappler would require a 3:1 ratio minimum assuming destroyer class have been dealt with to even open a gap to use vehicles. And as you've seen,the 3D movement is key. Because of the numbers and abilities. Doesnt mean hard ground elements arent required but as seen from the BETAs inception to the status quo,TSFs are indispensible without tremendous loss of life. But yes the enemies were made for mechs 😅 -G
no nukes?
@@abhisheknaithani3647 there were. But they cause too much lasting damage..but i will say stay tuned for our next vid. -G
Hi, maybe you can answer a quick question: Humble Bundle has 2 Muv-Luv bundles right now, one with the Visual Novels and one with the Manga, and im asking which one to rather get to get the best expirience with the material.
@@berkutsierra7887 hey man sorry took me abit. So i had to ask a mate because i havent seen the Manga. I suspected its not the full experience but still. Heres what they said and i fully back this. "The manga only covers Alternative, in some ways. The game bundle covers every title released in english: Muv-Luv Extra, Unlimited, Alternative, TDA, TE, TM and the fan disks" -G
@@thealternativeproject Thanks a lot, i think i will get the Visual Novels then.
@@berkutsierra7887 :) -G
What I've noticed is that the bigger beta forms tend to be used to "process" material by destroying and crushing for the smaller beta forms to gather and "repurpose.'' For instance the destroyers and grappler class would crush and take out TSF and buildings while the tank class would swarm and eat TSF parts and other material. I believe the soldier class was developed to gather organic materials (humans/animals), notice that you never really see the larger forms "eat" they seem to just break things down or tear people apart and move on, then the soldier class would move in and start eating the remains.
Thats a pretty creative and interesting point..i never thought of that. Mind if i add that to our library of resources? Potential for our beta part 2 or a speculation on limited knowledge video tying up the whole topic lol. Never thought of that tbh though. -G
@@thealternativeproject go for it bud, looking forward to part 2
Alternative is a masterpiece. The filler in Extra was more than worth the pay off.
I like to think there is an alternate reality where the world is at war with the BETA with battle mechs created in the 60s.
Dont tempt truck kun lol -G
Only ever seen a clip where these mechs fight each other. Is the main story about fighting Aliens? Not as appealing anymore ngl
In regards to human conflict, there is a lot of it, infighting and all. You might like the unlimited timeline (covered mostly in the unfinished VN series called "The Day After" set before Alternative. Where the war with the BETA is still the backdrop but there is loads more human-on-human conflict. (And stuff i didn't even expect to see which is kinda funny) In addition to Total Eclipses (vn and anime versions) conflicts with other factions and such. IMO Muv Luv is a series where almost anyone could potentially hop on and enjoy their niche despite the whole story direction. Additionally, when some projects are done you could see a rise in that avenue. -G
I always wondered why the BETA don't have flying creatures, they should adapt to have something like that seeing human aircraft.
I wish the anime focused on the war instead of always devolving into mech vs mech and silly politics stuff.
Muv Luv's bread and butter is the war as a backdrop, with human relationships, conflict, etc at the forefront. at least from what I've heard and seen. i do agree we need more on the war itself, but I think that would exhaust pretty fast. the BETA are unique and such but combatting them is kind of simple, so what else could you show? I'd however would love to see more equipment, vehicles, etc, and other countries in their struggles might be a good additional war avenue. Although we are missing a lot of pivotal battles..from TSFIA to the point a lot of exposition we do is improvised with what little we know or have been to find or get advised on. i.e operation palaiologos. and as a side note, there is some stuff in the works where you might get exactly what you want there. dunno if this ramble helps in anyway,but thank you for the comment! -G
@@thealternativeproject I've watched most of the anime. The problem I have is that the first half is small skirmishes and they're always building up the tension for a huge BETA offensive that is set to wipe everyone out. Then, just as that would be taking place half the mechs start blowing each other up because some General disagrees with some politician. It always seems like the strangest of timing. It's like "Guys, you have bigger problems right now. How about you hold off killing those three people until you've save the entire nation? No, nope, okay have at it. Oh, would you look at that. You lost the war..."
After learning more about the series, I was confused why they started with alternative for the anime and the spin-offs, but I think I understand now. I appreciate the insight
Sadly the Anime (premise for it mostly) but as well S1 ,left alot of new people just out of the loop if you dont play the trilogy an such. Which is ashame because it adds to reasons why people will drop the anime. Glad we could help! -G
The first couple of minutes, I could only think of the combine from the half-life games.
Uufff....necesitaba esto en español traducido, muchisimas gracias,le debo a muvluv y a warhammer el desarrollo de mis pequeños pelotones de robots
I uh used google translate,im assuming it provided subs in spanish to a decent degree or something? And your welcome mate. -G
@@thealternativeproject tank you bro,this is very low rated by is site
Excelente video, i thought i would be able to watch 100's of others but this is the last one so far, i've just noticed... sad.
Yeeeeah sorry man ,we are dedicated but its a slow grind jumbling real life an such :( But! New vid soon and such though. Also Idk if you have seen him but our friend: 'yamamoto mech battles' has alot of Muv Luv content to enjoy! -G
Fort Laser Class?
Additional strains will he covered in the future but the first 3 vids were introductory and basically spoiler free. -G
Kinda funny that most of these BETA main melle combat are either their herbivore like teeth or their human like arms. As if they're designed based on human biology exclusively.
I cant really speak for the main BETA designs that hit humanity first but a certain strain was theorised (in universe lore) *SPOILER* to be a response to humanity. the soldier class if i remember right. BETA are all round unique though 😅 -G
Is possible to make a vídeo that explain each one of alternaves plan?
It is planned for down the line but atm we are in somethin akin to devlopment hell lol due to life stuff. So please know its on the list but not anytime soon :< P.s ty for the idea! -G
Huh, I wonder if they were inspired by or inspired the scrin from C&C, the structure they were building was very similar to the threshold towers of scrin.
where do you get the info in english the page
Sorry, what do you mean? if you are asking about the source material for our explaining of the universe content, that would be the wiki(which summarises almost all media and such.) AND the digital codex (on Steam ill link below) is our bible lol. However would be remiss to not mention the various animes and VNs, and consulting our team /devoted fans also plays a pivotal part in our ability to present. A LOT of media is available in English. Not all such as TSFIA , Schwarzmarken(VN), and others (which leave a lot of annoying gaps to try and fill that even codex an such doesnt help with) hope this helps! store.steampowered.com/app/1251940/MuvLuv_Alternative_CODEX/ -G
These guys have insane plot armor. Easy solution to beat them is have someone with equally insane plot armor to beat them. Eg. Rey Skywalker from Star Wars or Captain Marvel from the MCU. They cant beat wokeness.
Well the culmination of factors are pretty sound. As for those you mentioned they would run out of stamina and energy dealing with 100s of BETA at any given point. arguably they are just slightly more law-defying unarmoured mechanized infantry. That are more susceptible to human limits. (see various Muv Luv articles an such on mechanised infantry) Would be interesting to see how aLightsabre could even cope against something that isn't over 2 by 3 meters and one slash won't just annoy the BETA being attacked though lol. -G
@@thealternativeproject The Force has unlimited energy. You can simply write Rey Skywalker has unlimited Force powers to beat these guys.
@@BoxxyFan energy to do what? 😅😅 lightning or using the 'force' to blow any large amounts of BETA away (if they could even do that period) To which starwars media has shown on an large scale jedi and the force arnt really able to do much even with plot armour. Imo notably Order 66,zillo beast in clone wars, and other stuff i cant quite remember showed that. Unlimited power through one person fighting something that knows no fear ,has numbers and is very much larger and resilient to even kinetic forces would simply trample over or eat a force user. Its like saying a natural disaster such as tornados,storms volcanoes etc could stop the BETA (which is not the case especially since earths whole ecosystem is screwed so bad weather events do intensify an such to my knowledge) And again ,human limits. Even if we could say jedi has merit ,and armed forces support. Their sword would be ineffective (most BETA bodies are dense hence why 36mm cant one shot anything above tank class) Fancy sword would only be able to kill 3-6 beta every 5 minutes or longer.(this is generous from me even,itd take longer) 10-20,000 BETA would stomp by all logic. I would also pose this onto reddit or something though for different povs. -G
Please cover the spacecrafts in Muv-Luv like The Elpis-Class Mothership.
i uh..wasnt even aware of that things existence..as its probably more in the exolarity area. i deffo want to have that covered but for now, the most stuff we will cover is from the VNs,codex and other source material leading uptill 2008. !(as they have the most material to draw from) -G
@@thealternativeproject Understandable. Anyways, good luck man.
Question: What if BETAs attacked Cybertron instead? How would that go?
That is..quite a question, one we could cover one day on 'what IFs' but until we sort stuff out. All I can myself is say that,in the end,the BETA are pretty strong. Arguably creative in a lot of ways. In addition whats on earth is the tip of the iceberg. So with Cybertron and such we can assume a high tech level species has a lot of combat and war abilities. So we could in turn also assume that the BETA would up their level of aggression. (see exolarity for more or less what this means) But that being said the BETA have numbers,which would dwarf cybertron,and including the laser class alone which kills TSFs which are kinda similar to transformers in terms of the basics. but ya IMO ,however I myself am not too well informed on transformers. -G
@@thealternativeproject Understandable. Also, me favorite TSF is the A-10 Thunderbolt. And me will definitely add it to my upcoming fanfiction in Wattpad at summer.
@@wargeneralbonez very nice! -G
@@thealternativeproject It will be a Earth x Star Wars fanfiction
@@wargeneralbonez nice dude! -G
If Code Geass and Muv-Luv merged, I think it's fair that The Holy Britannian Empire would lose from either BETAs or The UN in my opinion.
Conveniently enough, KMFs are designed to deal with conventional machines of war, direct counter to armor and stuff. I would imagine that they would be unexpectedly effective against TSFs as the Tactical Surface Fighters are based off standard doctrine modified against BETA. That said, the BETA would most certainly be an issue, as KMFs don't have the same amount of hovering mobility as the TSFs do, until later generations at least, which introduce hover units. Besides that, KMFs are ridiculously small targets in comparison, I'm pretty sure a Glasgow only comes up to half a TSF's leg. One could just latch on with Slash Harkens and shoot safely while the TSF has to try and shake it off. One of the uses for these is grappling hooks after all. Quite literally, KMFs are very angry bees in this case. The issue is getting through a TSF's armor.
@@pyroball602 Good argument
It's like facing a Zerg Player not using Flying Units yet using gigantic units.
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
The beta give me some C&C3 scrin vibes sometimes .
4:59 morons don’t have reverse joints, tetrapod, or any tank legs
1:17 are those little bitty eye lasers?
Yeah lol. Small strain of laser class mate. -G
This is almost how UN should be IRL but well it is what it is
Wait until the alpha get involved
the designs are awesome and most of the fights in the animes are amazing. but the lore and general writing of muv luv is so hilariously incompetent
Care to elaborate? The universe has alot of holes for sure (one being my personal gripe which is data on COSEAN) but i cant really say incomptence was a factor anywhere. P.s no rudeness intended. Was just curious! -G
@@thealternativeproject a lot of other properties are guilty of this, but one of my biggest gripes is the "8 minutes of death" thing, you'd think after several decades, that if someone bothered to look into pilot deaths to find the correlation they'd notice how many died after 8 minutes, and you'd think military brass would train that idea out of their soldiers if it got so many killed. Another is the development of the TSF, if you build a machine, standardizing it, then somehow everyone you stick in it has an issue with the machine... it's not pilot error, that's a designer incompetence issue.
"The 'Eight Minutes of Death' is referred to in the same manner as the Twenty-Minuters of the First World War. Tactical Surface Fighters are cutting edge equipment, and while training against other humans and simulated training is provided, these are a poor substitute for actual combat conditions. Just as in the First World War many pilots were risking their lives piloting their aircraft in battle and with unknown variables a constant factor, TSF combat has its own unique challenges both doctrinal and individual. Indeed, many pilots could excel in the simulations only to crumble under actual battlefield conditions. Individual pilot psychology under conditions is an unknown variable, and the 'Eight Minutes of Death' is regarded as much as a baptism of fire as it is a superstition. As to the TSF development itself, allow us to clarify a point - true standardization of TSF components and parts did not really start until the third generation of TSF models, as each nation individually developed their own models either from scratch or from reverse-engineering from existing designs loaned. Differences in processes by nationality as well as urgency led to differing initial standards and differences in design philosophy, which are as of the third generation only now starting to be adjusted with an internal standardization in mind. Yes, one could argue designer incompetence. By the same token, one could also argue that design refinement occurs as actual combat data comes forth and is provided upwards to design staff, which is shown in increased survival averages for each successive generation." -Alt team WD@@commiegundam9066
@@thealternativeproject my problem with the "eight minutes of death" isn't that it's a military superstition that exists, but that it's a superstition that PERSISTS. the fact that it has been brought up in multiple installments is my issue, military superstitions don't really persist for several decades. military superstitions tend to spread from grunts to other grunts, rumors or hearsay with some basis in reality, also a lot of superstitions are trained out of soldiers before they hit the frontlines(especially of said superstition is detrimental 9 times out of 10). I guess my issue is that it's the only notable superstition, while it would make more sense that more positive or harmless ones would more likely persist. also the idea that veteran pilots would spread it is kinda dumb, "ah yes, let's get fledgling fellow pilots killed so there'll be less of us, and pray that the ones who died didn't have good potential". on the point of tsf design, yeah that makes sense, to a certain extent it is designer incompetence, but also a hint of trial by fire(or more accurately the lack of it)..
I love the battleships