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Small self centering vise for zero point system 52 mm
Video of a prototype I made last year.
The vises are the small Xindian self centering vises.
I added the mounting holes for lang pullstuds so they can be used on 52 mm zero point systems.
The vises are the small Xindian self centering vises.
I added the mounting holes for lang pullstuds so they can be used on 52 mm zero point systems.
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Obsidian Tools Pallet Spinner Lang + 3R
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The obsidian tools pallet spinner for Lang, 5th axis and 3r pallets. Obsidiantools.com
ObsidianTools Pallet Spinner overview
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This is the ObsidianTools Pallet spinner. If you are using Lang or 5th axis zero point systems, the pallet spinner is meant to make your life easier. It makes it possible to mount both 52 mm and 96 mm pallets and rotate them to get an ideal working position for setups. Available at ObsidianTools.com
Obsidian Tools Pallet Spinner Update 01/2022
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Little update on the obsidian tools pallet spinner. The system is meant to help with loading and unloading of cnc parts from tombstones on zero point machining pallets. It can clamp 52 and 96 mm Lang pallets and spin them into an ergonomic position for setup. It can also be adapted to be used with 5th axis, Erowa and System 3R zero point systems. For more information please visit obsidiantools.com
Obsidian Tools Pallet Spinner
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Fixture for quick and easy setup of small zero point fixtures. Made for all common systems like Lang or 5th axis. Can both clamp 52 mm and 96 mm plates very solid.
Lang workholding zero point system disassembly
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In this Video I show you my 52 mm Lang Workholding zero point plate and how it works. I am very happy with the system, it is very high quality and the price of about 500€ is a very good value for the plate. Lang spanntechnik Lang nullpunktspannsysytem
Affordable Self Centering Vise
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This is a small review of a small Chinese made self centering vise I got from eBay. They are mostly sold as EDM vises and can be used with system 3r and erowa zero point systems. For the price of about 100 € they are of very good quality with a few small flaws. EDM EROWA 3R CNC Self-centering Vise Electrode Fixture Machining Tool
System 3R zero point system pneumatic chuck
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A short breakdown of a system 3R zero point system. The chuck is actuated with 6 bar of air and overall very nicely made.
System 3r Zero Point System Disassembly
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I show the inner workings of a very high quality system 3r zero point system made in Switzerland.
Full six sided CNC machining with modular Robot gripper system
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Useing the Schunk Vero S zero point system and Schunk KSP pneumativ vises the universal robots UR10 can be used to machine all six sides fully automatic. The handling between OP10 and OP20 with softjaws is made by the robot. The robot gripper actuates the pneumatic vises with a pneumatic quick changer.
Where did you get these without all the other bolt holes ECT?
@@LoneWolfPrecisionLLC i ordered 10 directly at the manufacturer without holes. But they were not as nicely finished as the ones you can buy. I had to do quite some adjusting at the ways to make them work nicely.
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I think they are ground on the sides because to have a smooth movement just one grinded surface is required and they were easy to grind.
Simple and efficient.I have erowa 3r system on my machine
Thank you very much for the detailed description of how it works. Can you tell me what this bronze insert in the center is? what is its function?
It's just a plug for the middle hole. Its open on the underside so coolant can exit from the holes.
That’s a cool system. Thanks for the video, it was really helpful to learn about the system
Hey! Can you link me those vices please? That's a nice setup
I am glad to see our product on the video and we will improve the defects. Thank you for your suggestion.
Thank you for commenting. Very nice to see manufacturers care for the feedback. If you want to chat just email me. I would be interested to sell them in Germany and Europe.
Super cool that you messaged him and show you care I'm about to order one or two myself I think.
@@brettbernhardt7608 Of course you can, please contact me.😊
It's perfect
You get what you pay for my friend :)
very nice!
have you done much milling in this vice now? how did it handle it? thanks for your info
For light milling it really works nicely.
@@hampfi747 how light is "light" lol what kinda materials and speeds you pushing? thanks!
@@brianwaayenberg3099 The heavy cutting style mentioned in the video is also acceptable, and it is not recommended to use this style if there are steel parts. We are manufacturers.
@@Xindian-precision thank you for the reply, i have purchased one a few month back now but not had the chance to use it yet. it certianky bites the material nicely. For those wondering about grip and longevity, if you grip hard it is solid and bites aluminum nicely. if you are worried about screw wear simply buy 2, use one outside the machine to grip/dent the material then transfer the material to the vice in the machine thats not pre dented. kinda like a cheap lang hyd grip system :) for 1st op work this is a good litle vice
@@brianwaayenberg3099 Thank you, but I don't know where you purchased it. We have many styles, including Lang brand and the same model, with the same quality and different prices.😄
Incredibly valuable information thanks for putting this together!
It’s like 2500 used. That’s an awesome find. Thanks for going over these things. I would never know how well made it was. I’ll keep looking.
How much jaw lift do you get with them? Is there any mechanism trying to pull them down? Angle V or whatever?
If using then in a 4th axis machine then you only would use it for a 1st operation. Jaw lift wouldn't matter then.
It would be neat if it could swivel up to make it easier to set the palette in your loader. Nice work a nice and easy way to do it.
you wouldn't happen to have a zero point clamping system that you can disassemble that uses a pullstud screwed into the workpart?
The Lang pullstuds can be mounted on a workpiece. I got a video on the system.
Thanks! Can you give me your Drawing!
I don’t have the drawing.
- The screw on the sides are just for closing the holes that were needed to drill the holes for the balls since it’s one peace - The “through coolant“ is actually used for removing chips from the center bore and the mating surfaces before each clamping process by suppling an air burst - The body is mainly turned with some milling features; it could also be that the inner precise surface is hard turned since grinding is difficult in this space and the surface looks like it - The one surface in the clamping bracket is grounded to allow a better fit (one precise part + one less precise is better than two less precise ones..) and for less sliding friction. And again it’s not easy to ground the inner part..cost cutting..
Thanks for the comment. As soon as I finished the video I realized the function of the holes 😄.
It would be nice if these had more of a dovetail in the jaws, you can still use them normally but if you prep your stock with a matching dovetail it will hold nice. You can buy even smaller but US made dovetail vises that are intended for 5 axis multi part fixturing but no one is stopping you from 3 axis milling with them and they aren't all that expensive, or just make them yourself. This also allows you to hold much larger stock, by milling a dovetail in the material you only grab that small part and the rest of the material hangs over the vise
They bite in quite a bit in aluminum. Seems plenty good for the small parts they are meant for.
This is the same s lang. You tighten them up and they indent the work as they tighten. It actually means you don't need to faff around milling a dovetail to hold your work, you put it in and crank it shut and press the green button.
i introduced the lang system in our shop floor around 8 years ago, we have around 100 vices and 50 Lang-zero point pallets. A really reliable system. Not a single pallet has failed this far, a view vices got crashed but no loss to age-related consumption
Awesome!
Excellent review. Thanks.
Thank you.
It looks nice, but is there any way to index it a set rotation for example 90 degrees? Or do you have to indicate it in every time you unclamp it?
Thanks, its just meant for setup so the precise angle is not that important. its just meant to fixture parts ergonomically
I have same things but there is no one system has zero point every time max 30 micron difference
The plate looks aluminum. Are there steel inserts in there?
the complete palete is steel, just really nicely grounded, so i looks a little like aluminum
locking in this version for one pin? Or did you hide the channels on the back of the plate? Have you used the original Lang pin or tried to make your own? What kind of repeatability of clamping did you manage to achieve? Go on!
Interesting video. Thank you.
Wow.. Cool tool. Where did you buy it?
I made it myself. Currently I sell them at obsidiantools.com
Interesting project mate. I like your style:)) keep going forward. Waiting for your next video
I thing the hole on the outside of fixture (those with short thread) are so they can make inside hole for the balls.
Thanks for the commend. Yes I think you are right.
I always wanted to know how they worked! Thanks you!
Really interesting! Lang's brochure doesn't even show how it works, this made it much clearer.
where do i get 01
Hey John, thanks for the comment. At the moment its still in prototype phase. If you are interessted to get a early version shoot me an email at info@obsidiantools.com
Thanks for showing us all this stuff! Keep going!
Interesting video Thanks!
Hello, Great content. What is the model of the zero point system? May you upload a video showing how you use it? Thank you.
Thanks for the review :P
Absolutely beautiful mechanism