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Nathan Saier
Приєднався 2 чер 2022
Backcountry Photographer and Filmmaker, Traveling Full-Time, Shooting the Truly Unique
The Ultimate Rig to Travel and Ski Full Time
Hey! We're back, on the road and shooting full time again out of our newest rig. This offroad truck camper build has been a longtime in the making and is still something we're working on every day. After exploring so many options and doing months of research, planning and work I'm stoked to show you our latest project!
Cheers,
-Nathan
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Cheers,
-Nathan
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Thank you so much for this video!
i have bigfoot c8. 1100lbs! can have it on a ford f150 eco boost. that is the beauty of a truck camper aint it, the truck dies, you can just put it on another one.
What model Northern Lite is this? The floorplan is excellent.
You probably know this but make sure to figure out how to run a dehumidifier in there in the winter. That and the hypervent under the mattress is garbage. I replaced mine with some 2” blue foam board and have no condensation problems.
Are you referring to the 2” styrofoam you find at Lowe’s/Home Depot? We’re not having great luck with the hypervent, and were eyeing the Froli system, but it’s crazy expensive for a bunch of plastic pieces.
@ yes the hard foam though. Never had problems with condensation sonce
I have a 4x4 sprinter, and an arctic fox 811 on a gmc 3500hd diesel. I use the sprinter for work. Thought about converting it until I got in one that had been converted. My arctic fox is waaay roomier and set up better than a converted sprinter. Truck camper is the way to go.
They look awful so they will be less tolerated. They are top heavy.
Nice rig......is that 8-11?
Awesome, you came to the same conclusion we did this year. Dig the honesty with your review. Ours is a ‘12 NL 8-11. Had a few things to fix, but way better than having a full project to build from scratch. Absolutely pumped on our set up this season. Will keep an eye out for you, if you’re ever up around Meadows or Baker. 🤙
Subscribed I like you!
I think a truck camper is by far the best way to go. The only reason the van is a good idea is if you’re old and you feel like you can’t get in it and out of the truck camper it’s on a 4 x 4. I’ve lived in mine for about 11 years now full time. I used to chase the snow, but the resorts got so annoying that I haven’t been doing it for a few years. Yeah diesel heater is good but a propane heater works great you just gotta keep the condensation down. And deal with it so you don’t get mold. It’s really the price point is what I would be looking at. You can get a nice slide in truck camper and a great truck for a third or less of what you would pay for a nice van. I took my shower out and also my hot water heater. They just didn’t seem very practical to me. Maybe one day I’ll put an on-demand hot water heater in, but it’s easy to heat up some water and it’s easy to take a sponge bath. I ended up getting all of that black water tank space as storage and I have a gear locker now instead of a shower, which I remodeled. I have a composting toilet so I don’t need a black tank and I don’t really like holding my shit for very long so I just offload it pretty quickly these days I’m camping in the desert in the winter in Arizona so it’s easy just to bury it and I have a folding toilet that works great. But yeah, I love your rig. It’s definitely the best of all worlds. You have so much more space than a van and you can carry so much more weight. The van definitely have some good points to them but they’re just so overpriced. It seems ridiculous. I have a client that spent almost $200,000 on one of the pre-built ones and all it has done is caused her hassles. All the systems are proprietary, and not that easy to fix. I got lucky and found a 2012 Lance used that I bought in 2014 for $18,500. I had to drive across the country to pick it up, but it was such a good deal and barely used that I was pretty stoked. I don’t think lances are necessarily the best, but the frame is good and so I can change everything else out which I have done most of. I basically redesigned the inside. I think most of us are built like crap. If I didn’t care about being stealthy, I would’ve just built something on the back, but I also didn’t have a great place to do that build out so this was my best option. And if you’re not a handyman, you will become one because I like to say living on a rig/RV is like living on a boat with wheels, there’s always something to fix. It used to bump me out when things would break but now I know it’s just part of the territory and I have a high tolerance now for things breaking, which is great much more peace of mind knowing that it’s just gonna break and I’m just gonna have to fix it.
100% .. totally agree - very nicely presented. I've been going through the same thought process and only a couple of months ago concluded just as you have. Maybe not the same rig but very similar. Outpost 6.5 on a Tundra is what I'm now looking for. Thank you!!
I paid 22,000 for my brand new Bigfoot camper back in 2005. I’ll never sell it but I’ve seen them listed for 18 to 20,000. Bigfoot’s and Northern lights really keep their value.
Lmao, that's about what I paid hard to find used ones that have had good upkeep
Traveling and skiing? Sweet. So many questions? Cannot believe the size of the sink. Tv monitor? How, where do you park? Up close parking is a fortune over time. Do ski resort have off site parking, then you take a bus in? Totally know nothing on this. Wanna break free. Always end up skiing with rich relatives or siblings where you park the car at the hotel and you are ski in/ski out. This setup would offer so much more flexibility self contained.
Let me get back to you on all this might make a complete video detailing how we do everything.
Been running a 96' Bigfoot,9-6 on a 99 f350,4dr PS for years.Sitting on a alum. flatbed with 4 alum. storage boxes and a under mat for gen.Solar and a back up wave heater for boon docking.Tons of storage, done many months long trips and lived in while building a log home threw a MT winter,9 months.Its my hunting set top and I tow a T4R Hill or my built jeep, if I need a run around rig.Fishing trips I have my Woolridge AK jet boat.
We had a Northern Lite 10-2. Awesome rig with great quality. You definitely found the best combo out there!
Nice video! Some benefits of the truck camper - A much safer way to drive for passengers. And like you pointed out, larger interior, all the comforts of home, nice place to hang wet stuff. Some benefits of a Sprinter - A safe place to transport mountain bikes and dirt bikes. This was the main reason for me. Also the diesel heater tapped directly into the fuel tank, can run that heater for weeks, just sips fuel. And like you mentioned, no need to exit the driver area to head to bed. But it all depends on what activities you do. For skiing, the truck camper makes a lot of sense, aside form the heater issue. But adding a diesel heater to a truck camper seems like an option. If you don't need to transport bikes, a truck camper is great.
All great points going to be making a video covering 3-5 specific cons and how to address them the propane consumption is out of control so going to install a diesel heater at some point. Also having issues with condensation
"Don't buy a solution for a problem that you don't have yet" -- some of the best advice I've heard.
Made my day, glad you like that! I really think people should spend the time on the road before dropping money, if you don't like it when it's as simple as a sleeping bag in the back of a car, you're not going to like it when you have year round maintenance to keep your rig from falling apart.
@nathansaier I mean, it's easy to get distracted by all the things you could have if you shelled out for a fancy camper. But it's also just great advice for anyone doing outdoor sports. I'm constantly telling myself to not upgrade my equipment (MTB, rock climbing, skiing) until it becomes a problem.
Absolutely! He also gives some really practical and good opinions about the adventure craze. An excellent video from such a young kid.
This advice has stopped me from numerous unnecessary purchases, wise words indeed!
Nice editing
Awesome, Northern lite is a premier rig in the TC world.
Still finding quite a few struggles with it, going to be making a 3 pros, 3 cons type video here soon where I can dive into specifics because I feel like I got overwhelmed with too much to talk about in this first one
Oh and worth noting as I point out the issues to look for im also going provide the solutions we're putting in place, stuff like condensation mitigation, propane consumption etc.
@@nathansaier Awesome, that will be good content.
Andrew Muse ...started out with a truck conversion on season one with Booter dog....and then tradegy struck, and he eventually built a earthlike roamer for season 2 and 3....the earth roamers are just too damn expensive !!!
If I had all the time in the world I'd get a 7.3 power stroke, Carli suspension, Bowen flatbed and build up from that with a custom total composite shell. It'd be way better off-road but I'd definitely lose the homey feel of this thing and some of the amenities like a bathroom.
Awildtuan on Instagram is another worth watching dudes going the same route from custom Tacoma build to old f350 flatbed up build.
@@nathansaier Thank you ...appreciate that you took the time for advice...much appreciated....Tundra V8 is reliable and durable but sure does drink the gas!! Might look elsewhere now...( hmmm makes you think twice
Perfect timing....have been on the fence between Truck conversion or Van conversion....but leaning heavily towards a truck conversion....ie 2018 to 2021 Toyota Tundra with a composite type trailer for 4 season outdoor home away from home!! This just confirms what I am ....leaning towards myself!! Cheers, B 1000 islands Ontario
Stoked to help, I'm going to make a second video talking about more specific problems to watch for, kind of a 3 pros, 3 cons type video. I will warn you with tundras you are going to have very serious fuel economy issues. We have a friend with essentially the exact build you're talking about and they get 7-10mpg. Went diesel (still stock not deleted) and I've averaged 15.5mpg across the last 10k miles, theoretically that could go up with a deleted but I'll be leaving it stock.
Awesome setup! What about the fuel consumption?
I kind of addressed this in another comment, but this is a 2011 6.7 power stroke completely stock except for some of the breakable bits replaced. (To say not deleted) I went diesel for the increased fuel economy, reliability and for future expansion into a sled trailer etc. I've been getting about 15.5 mpg on average with a low of 13.5 and a high of 17.7 across the last 10k miles. Theoretically with a deleted power stroke or Cummins those numbers could get up in the low to mid 20s. With any gasser, especially tundras (not strong enough to support most full slide ins) you're going to be talking 5-10mpg.
did i miss the tour of the outside of the rig??
Hadn't even thought to do that 😂 filmed most the video after dark in knee deep snow. What sort of questions would you have or want me to cover on the outside
Intro is beautiful 👌 And all very well spoken, everything has its pros and cons, and your rig fits you well!
I did not expect that. Sick.
I like your ski getup my man
XD That's good cause I just made a video detailing my 24/25 kit
Awesome 👌 appreciated 🙏
Do you teach your mpg with the different mods?
Great video!!! Super practical. Well done!!
Can't deny that Subaru CVT's are stellar. Granted the CVT's are great, I absolutely love my 23 Crosstrek 6MT. 32,000 miles since new and I am so glad that I stuck to my guns on having mine made with the Manual despite the dealership trying to push the Sport model with the 2.5. Even tried to get me on the "it has paddle shifters, eh? It's just like shifting a stick but on the steering wheel. I promise you won't regret it." But he didn't know that I've already tested the paddles already and I was not changed. So I said no thanks I'll take my 2.0L with the manual thank you lol. I've seen a ton of lifted Crosstreks. I'd agree that a lift is not necessary unless you're doing some serious stuff. Though I have played with the thought of potentially swapping the shocks from the Wilderness since nothing really changed form the Gen2 to the Gen3 for that added ride height be it about 6 inches. But on that I'm still not 100% convinced on doing a minor lift, yet. Enjoyed your breakdown of the vehicle. They really are quite capable little tanks. Like the build you got going on.
Wow
Do you know the slope angle that slid? Looks about 30-35? Wondering why you close to ski that area with the test results you got. Was it because you were familiar with it and had a plan to mitigate if it did slide? Not judging, just trying to get a better understanding of the thought process. I am relatively new to the backcountry so just trying to get more opinions.
Just guessing but pretty sure the slide video was not shot on the same day as the pit video
This^
Crazy! I don’t even know how to ski backwards yet loo
Nice job
There's ALOT OF PEOPLE AND I'M TALKING ALOT that rely on the AVALANCHE Forcast which is EXCELLENT and it doesn't matter which state you live in. But ALOT OF PEOPLE do not make a SNOWPIT, 3 of them are ideal because you may end up with 3 different answers or 2 different answers or they could all be the same information. The point being what you read on-line with the AVALANCHE FORCAST MIGHT BE DIFFERENT IMFOMATION IN A SNOW PIT there's always that possibility. So make it a priority to make a SNOWPIT and you make more than one be sure to space them atleast 10 feet apart from each other.
Not a bad point we don't often do 3 but beyond what we talk about in this video there are other tests you should know and are worth learning. We had a slide last year that happened because we didn't do a second pit on a new aspect we were skiing.
Great explanation, man! Thank you 🤘
Appreciating this. Thank you.
Rip fatmap! What have you switched to now?
I know onx backcountry works really well for me
We're running onx now but not 100% sold on it, offline maps only being 2d, crashes and difficult navigation have made it frustrating. It's definitely more capable but I liked the simplicity of Fatmaps done well.
Well done sire - basics clearly demonstrated with the emphasis on required decision making at the moment for the full day!
Great knowledge, thanks brother
Great video, quality content. I'm glad I found your channel. Keep it up !
Happy to see LT getting some love ❤️
Going back this weekend!
The snowpit/stability test portion of this video is completely inaccurate.
how so?
@@brycetwyning4436 Unfortunately, Nathan doesn’t even know the name or dimensions of the tests he's trying to describe. The first test he did was a shovel shear test - 30 cm by 30 cm isolated on 3 sides. Nathan doesn't have a snow saw which makes this test difficult to conduct accurately. The second test is called the Extended Column Test or ECT. The ECT is 90 cm's long by 30 deep isolated on all sides. Again, Nathan doesn't know the actual dimensions of this test. The ECT is used to assess both initiation and propagation. Initiation is the force it takes to impact a buried weak layer (number of taps). Then, you're trying to determine if the weak layer is capable of collapsing and propagating. If the weak layer collapses and propagates to the end of the column - ECTP #, that is an unstable result. Nathan called it an ECT 14, which is incorrect. If the weak player collapses (Nathan's term is break/settles) and only propagates part way across the column - ECTN #, it's considered a stable result. This is just a simple explanation of a video that is not explained well at all. There is a lot more to it. The bottom line is that snowpits and stability tests are used to turn you around, not to make you more aggressive. If you decide to ski or ride in avalanche terrain, then much more information has already been gathered.
You are absolutely correct.
Not going to disagree with you, Jordan definitely could have gone more in-depth into technical terminologies, test dimensions, variations etc. However, this video isn't meant to be a week long avy 1 course, and it would be irresponsible of us to pretend it is. What this is, is years of practical experience skiing backcountry, and the condensed ECT test our team does to quickly assess snow conditions before proceeding into areas that pose a slide risk. We almost always just measure off of our shovels, and the reason he referred to it as ECT 14, is because that's the necessary information that needs to be transmitted over the radio for the rest of the team to immediately understand the result, obviously he doesn't just say "ECT 14", he would radio in that he had *blank effect on ECT 14. At the end of the day, what terms you use to explain it aren't going to change the outcome, having a personal understanding of your assessment, and performing tests will. If you're curious as to why we've condensed things down to what we have I can tag Jordan in to talk more about his process!
Yo what do you use now that Strava killed fatmap. I've tried but failed to find anything that replaces it adequately
We're testing onx Backcountry right now but we aren't sure about it yet, losing fatmaps was a massive hit to the Backcountry community
Sick man
Where do I acquire this bumper?!
Sorry mate, made this one myself borrowed a welder from a friend, designed it in cad, basic steel tubing from a steel supply store. Surprisingly not that hard.
Well done video! Love the whole thing and that it is about a super rad "ma and pa" operation is awesome! I've only been to Lost Trail once but definitely left me wanting more!!
Thank you!!
Stoked to get out of that one ok, but even more glad the team was in position in case I didn't
Thanks for the very informative review! What about the Cybertruck Tent? Worth $3k, if not a burden, especially for 1,500 mi round trips, where aero cd is a biggie? Or, just get a lean to & stay in motels & commute via e-bike when not having to be under the stars?
So had to go look at the actual Cyber truck tent to get a feel for it. But my thought process looking at it is why spend 3k to essentially just sleep in the bed? Tons of people have great systems for sleeping in the bed of a pickup without a huge tent to set up. If you have a cybertruck (why.) money prolly isn't an issue, but I still see the 3k purchase as wildly unnecessary when you can probably come up with a more convenient, simpler and more discreet solution just sleeping in the bed. In all honesty a lot of our guys prefer to sleep in the back of their cars over tents, rtts, or cowboy. Some of them like the back of their cars more than hotels or their bed at home.
@@nathansaier Agree. Thx for the response & good travels to you!