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The Philosophy of Tragedy
United States
Приєднався 11 гру 2019
Greek tragedy has been performed, read, imitated and interpreted for twenty-five hundred years. From the very beginning it was thought to be philosophically significant-somehow pointing to the truth of human life as a whole (the phrase the "tragedy of life" first appears in Plato). As a literary form it is thought especially revealing philosophically by Aristotle, Hegel, Nietzsche and Heidegger to name only a few. Among others, Seneca, Corneille, Racine, Voltaire, Goethe, Shelley, O'Neill and Sartre wrote versions of Greek tragedies. And, of course, there is Freud. Greek tragedy examines the fundamental things in a fundamental way. Justice, family, guilt, law, autonomy, sexuality, political life, the divine-these are its issues. The lectures that follow treat three plays by each of the great Athenian tragedians-Aeschylus, Sophocles and Euripides-with a view to understanding how they deal with these issues and with the question of the importance and nature of tragedy itself.
Michael Davis speaks about his new book "Electras: Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides"
Professor Michael Davis and Alexandre Legrand discuss his new book Electras: Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides. It will be published on November 1st 2023.
You can purchase it directly from the source at St. Augustine Press and get 30% off until 2024 with the discount code ELECTRASDAVIS30. St. Augustine’s Press was founded in December 1996 with the mission of publishing outstanding scholarly works, principally in the fields of philosophy, theology, and cultural and intellectual history.
www.staugustine.net/9781587312083/electras/
Book Description:
Michael Davis revisits questions of interpretation in Greek tragedy emerging in the thought of the late Seth Benardete. While this is not the book Benardete would have written, it wrestles with problems that bear his indelible mark. In the extant tragedies of Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides, only one story is treated by all three--the tale of Electra. Davis endeavors to develop Benardete's understanding of the story's deeper meaning, as well as the connections that might be drawn between the three authors. He follows a thread that brings Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides closer together according to a powerful and shared theme--namely, that the female is the deeper (even if less easily accessible and articulated) of the pair of fundamental principles constituting human beings.
Davis accomplishes much more than an exegetical bridge as he connects us with ancient memory and wisdom. "When we cannot resist the temptation to recoil morally from their terminology, we risk the tragedy of losing their profound thoughts about our humanity--their philosophical anthropology." Davis has remarkably made of a niche study a stunning source material for more universal questions. This is a book that is as timely as it is ageless.
You can purchase it directly from the source at St. Augustine Press and get 30% off until 2024 with the discount code ELECTRASDAVIS30. St. Augustine’s Press was founded in December 1996 with the mission of publishing outstanding scholarly works, principally in the fields of philosophy, theology, and cultural and intellectual history.
www.staugustine.net/9781587312083/electras/
Book Description:
Michael Davis revisits questions of interpretation in Greek tragedy emerging in the thought of the late Seth Benardete. While this is not the book Benardete would have written, it wrestles with problems that bear his indelible mark. In the extant tragedies of Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides, only one story is treated by all three--the tale of Electra. Davis endeavors to develop Benardete's understanding of the story's deeper meaning, as well as the connections that might be drawn between the three authors. He follows a thread that brings Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides closer together according to a powerful and shared theme--namely, that the female is the deeper (even if less easily accessible and articulated) of the pair of fundamental principles constituting human beings.
Davis accomplishes much more than an exegetical bridge as he connects us with ancient memory and wisdom. "When we cannot resist the temptation to recoil morally from their terminology, we risk the tragedy of losing their profound thoughts about our humanity--their philosophical anthropology." Davis has remarkably made of a niche study a stunning source material for more universal questions. This is a book that is as timely as it is ageless.
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The Philosophy of Tragedy: Conclusion by Michael Davis
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Lectures by Michael Davis, Professor of Philosophy, delivered in the fall semester of 2018 at Sarah Lawrence College. Davis works primarily in Greek philosophy, in moral and political philosophy, and in what might be called the “poetics” of philosophy. He is the translator, with Seth Benardete, of Aristotle's On Poetics and has written on a variety of philosophers from Plato to Heidegger and of...
Euripides' Hippolytus. Lecture 27 by Michael Davis
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Lectures by Michael Davis, Professor of Philosophy, delivered in the fall semester of 2018 at Sarah Lawrence College. Davis works primarily in Greek philosophy, in moral and political philosophy, and in what might be called the “poetics” of philosophy. He is the translator, with Seth Benardete, of Aristotle's On Poetics and has written on a variety of philosophers from Plato to Heidegger and of...
Euripides' Hippolytus. Lecture 26 by Michael Davis
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Lectures by Michael Davis, Professor of Philosophy, delivered in the fall semester of 2018 at Sarah Lawrence College. Davis works primarily in Greek philosophy, in moral and political philosophy, and in what might be called the “poetics” of philosophy. He is the translator, with Seth Benardete, of Aristotle's On Poetics and has written on a variety of philosophers from Plato to Heidegger and of...
Euripides' Iphigenia among the Taurians. Lecture 25 by Michael Davis
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Lectures by Michael Davis, Professor of Philosophy, delivered in the fall semester of 2018 at Sarah Lawrence College. Davis works primarily in Greek philosophy, in moral and political philosophy, and in what might be called the “poetics” of philosophy. He is the translator, with Seth Benardete, of Aristotle's On Poetics and has written on a variety of philosophers from Plato to Heidegger and of...
Euripides' Iphigenia among the Taurians. Lecture 24 by Michael Davis
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Lectures by Michael Davis, Professor of Philosophy, delivered in the fall semester of 2018 at Sarah Lawrence College. Davis works primarily in Greek philosophy, in moral and political philosophy, and in what might be called the “poetics” of philosophy. He is the translator, with Seth Benardete, of Aristotle's On Poetics and has written on a variety of philosophers from Plato to Heidegger and of...
Euripides' Iphigenia among the Taurians. Lecture 23 by Michael Davis
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Lectures by Michael Davis, Professor of Philosophy, delivered in the fall semester of 2018 at Sarah Lawrence College. Davis works primarily in Greek philosophy, in moral and political philosophy, and in what might be called the “poetics” of philosophy. He is the translator, with Seth Benardete, of Aristotle's On Poetics and has written on a variety of philosophers from Plato to Heidegger and of...
Euripides' Iphigenia among the Taurians. Lecture 22 by Michael Davis
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Lectures by Michael Davis, Professor of Philosophy, delivered in the fall semester of 2018 at Sarah Lawrence College. Davis works primarily in Greek philosophy, in moral and political philosophy, and in what might be called the “poetics” of philosophy. He is the translator, with Seth Benardete, of Aristotle's On Poetics and has written on a variety of philosophers from Plato to Heidegger and of...
Euripides' Bacchae. Lecture 21 by Michael Davis
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Lectures by Michael Davis, Professor of Philosophy, delivered in the fall semester of 2018 at Sarah Lawrence College. Davis works primarily in Greek philosophy, in moral and political philosophy, and in what might be called the “poetics” of philosophy. He is the translator, with Seth Benardete, of Aristotle's On Poetics and has written on a variety of philosophers from Plato to Heidegger and of...
Euripides' Bacchae. Lecture 20 by Michael Davis
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Lectures by Michael Davis, Professor of Philosophy, delivered in the fall semester of 2018 at Sarah Lawrence College. Davis works primarily in Greek philosophy, in moral and political philosophy, and in what might be called the “poetics” of philosophy. He is the translator, with Seth Benardete, of Aristotle's On Poetics and has written on a variety of philosophers from Plato to Heidegger and of...
Sophocles' Antigone. Lecture 19 by Michael Davis
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Lectures by Michael Davis, Professor of Philosophy, delivered in the fall semester of 2018 at Sarah Lawrence College. Davis works primarily in Greek philosophy, in moral and political philosophy, and in what might be called the “poetics” of philosophy. He is the translator, with Seth Benardete, of Aristotle's On Poetics and has written on a variety of philosophers from Plato to Heidegger and of...
Sophocles' Antigone. Lecture 18 by Michael Davis
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Lectures by Michael Davis, Professor of Philosophy, delivered in the fall semester of 2018 at Sarah Lawrence College. Davis works primarily in Greek philosophy, in moral and political philosophy, and in what might be called the “poetics” of philosophy. He is the translator, with Seth Benardete, of Aristotle's On Poetics and has written on a variety of philosophers from Plato to Heidegger and of...
Sophocles' Antigone. Lecture 17 by Michael Davis
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Lectures by Michael Davis, Professor of Philosophy, delivered in the fall semester of 2018 at Sarah Lawrence College. Davis works primarily in Greek philosophy, in moral and political philosophy, and in what might be called the “poetics” of philosophy. He is the translator, with Seth Benardete, of Aristotle's On Poetics and has written on a variety of philosophers from Plato to Heidegger and of...
Sophocles’ Oedipus at Colonus. Lecture 16 by Michael Davis
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Lectures by Michael Davis, Professor of Philosophy, delivered in the fall semester of 2018 at Sarah Lawrence College. Davis works primarily in Greek philosophy, in moral and political philosophy, and in what might be called the “poetics” of philosophy. He is the translator, with Seth Benardete, of Aristotle's On Poetics and has written on a variety of philosophers from Plato to Heidegger and of...
Sophocles’ Oedipus at Colonus. Lecture 15 by Michael Davis
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Lectures by Michael Davis, Professor of Philosophy, delivered in the fall semester of 2018 at Sarah Lawrence College. Davis works primarily in Greek philosophy, in moral and political philosophy, and in what might be called the “poetics” of philosophy. He is the translator, with Seth Benardete, of Aristotle's On Poetics and has written on a variety of philosophers from Plato to Heidegger and of...
Sophocles’ Oedipus at Colonus. Lecture 14 by Michael Davis
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Sophocles’ Oedipus at Colonus. Lecture 14 by Michael Davis
Sophocles’ Oedipus at Colonus. Lecture 13 by Michael Davis
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Sophocles’ Oedipus at Colonus. Lecture 13 by Michael Davis
Sophocles' Oedipus Tyrannus. Lecture 12 by Michael Davis
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Sophocles' Oedipus Tyrannus. Lecture 12 by Michael Davis
Sophocles' Oedipus Tyrannus. Lecture 11 by Michael Davis
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Sophocles' Oedipus Tyrannus. Lecture 11 by Michael Davis
Sophocles' Oedipus Tyrannus. Lecture 10 by Michael Davis
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Sophocles' Oedipus Tyrannus. Lecture 10 by Michael Davis
Aeschylus's Eumenides. Lecture 9 by Michael Davis
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Aeschylus's Eumenides. Lecture 9 by Michael Davis
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Aeschylus's Eumenides. Lecture 8 by Michael Davis
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Aeschylus's Eumenides. Lecture 5 by Michael Davis
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Aeschylus's Eumenides. Lecture 5 by Michael Davis
Aeschylus's Libation Bearers. Lecture 4 by Michael Davis
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Aeschylus's Libation Bearers. Lecture 4 by Michael Davis
Aeschylus's Agamemnon. Lecture 3 by Michael Davis
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Aeschylus's Agamemnon. Lecture 3 by Michael Davis
Aeschylus's Agamemnon. Lecture 2 by Michael Davis
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Aeschylus's Agamemnon. Lecture 2 by Michael Davis
The Philosophy of Tragedy: Introductory Lecture 1 by Michael Davis
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The Philosophy of Tragedy: Introductory Lecture 1 by Michael Davis
Does anyone know a good translation of “philosophy and the tragic age of the Greeks”
Thank you for these lectures, Michael, and whoever behind this channel.
Deeply appreciate Michael Davis' thoughtfulness. Still, I see a fundamental problem common to the philosophers/poets/ etc, in that they project their souls (and experience) upon everyone else. Thus Sophocles, Plato, Freud (not Shakespeare i think) universalize what is particular to them and most interlecterals; fundamentally, theirs are not my experience nor perspective. 34:00 Anger is a bit tricky. That's not the only cause. ... Also, I think there's a denial of the evidence. Some do indeed act unselfishly, but to act purely unselfishly is no easy thing. I think Plato's error is in seeing no good either in himself or others and not being able to see the good; as well assuming all men were like himself. This seems a common flaw among most great writers and philosophers. Lots of questions still remain. Thanks again for your thoughtful lecture.
The question of anger is always tricky, as we don't translate it as the ancients did (menis); its somewhat the remit of the gods, thus inherently inhumane (or the divine in the human). Its why Homer made it the centre of the Illiad (the anger of achilles). Unrelated, how does one see that which one hasn't projected one's soul into? Is perception not mediated by an apriori experience/set of values? I see it not as a problem common to the philosophers/poets/etc, but as a fundamental to the very scientific/philosophic/poetic interest to begin with. Note that all these categories did not apply at the time of the ancients. The anatomy of interest itself seems to be of a religious nature.
@@sss95547 yes. Anger is difficult; perhaps, nothing is more heroic than to restrain anger and not let it darken judgement. Achilles, Odysseus, Ajax, Eumaeus, Telemachus all fail.... perhaps alone Euricleia does not. Never to be angry is no answer; reasoning it away leads to worse, more myopic perspective; never let it cloud judgement. As to "perception mediated...", I agree. However, I disagree in that experience grows, understanding and wisdom, rare, but with time can arrive at right vantage and judgment become refined. And that, regardless of ages, times, cultures though with some limitations from our environs.
It's a lot of time dedicated to what is common among all men. Thus "Oh my God" even among unbelievers is uttered without thought in the midst of or with news of disaster.... But it's not necessary to attribute the ills to God as cause of all disaster, and indeed I would say men are the only cause of their own disaster and ruin, while it's true and common that most men blame God. If you read Sumerian literature, the gods are evil and the cause of evil; the Greeks hide it more. ... Still, I'm enjoying very much your lectures. Alone you address the concerns and puzzlements I have about this drama
Helpful lecture. Many in the comments threw this man under the bus. Typical post modern commentary. In a word worthless. I study the classics, ancient languages etc..these lectures gave me just enough information to peak my interest. I have read most of the plays now and am a fan for life. I am already reading them in Attic, albeit with difficulty. Contrary to what many have said, this mans lecture was helpful to me. My main go to is Jebb and Lloyd Jones, but this was helpful. Thank you!
Fantastic presentation! Davis displays a deep and enthusiastic knowledge and is a delight to listen to.
The Browning Version brougt me here. My first impression after pitying all students of classics: For goodness' sake, why do ALL school/college syllabi, curricula, what have you rummage, foray, dig around in what this or that guy has written, and never have alumni create ANYTHING by themselves? The entire school curriculum and fee parasites aka college professors remind me of restaurant critics, ie guys who turned their inability to pay for a decent meal into a "profession".
You can tell this professor is very passionate about what he teaches and making sure it sits with their audience. I wish I had him in my campus, I'd listen to him all day.
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Is there a character in Greek drama who equates to Shakespeare's Iago? Someone who is evil for evil's sake. Someone who revels in evil like Iago does.
judt wonderful.
i would have loved a conparison with Helen. The plays are structurally sisters.
An unsavoury character Married his mother!
i sincerely hope you post more lectures about, frankly, anything. to be sure, I have topics I think you'd be sublime upon. Shakespeare first and foremost. I would love to listen to you perspective on the Bard's tragedies, comedies, or histories.
Thank you for posting this lecture series. Along with ancient greek history taught by Donald Kagan available on the Yale open podcast series, you've opened my eyes to a new way of understanding drama. You've also breathed a breath of philosophia into me. I wish you had a Shakespeare series as well. I will bring the lessons you've taught here to Shakespeare and Neitzeche in the future.
I ONLY attend lectures in person (I would NEVER work on a degree online), but I just finished Aeschylus' The Persians and have started rereading the Oresteia for the first time since college, so I am giving this lecture the chance (although nothing replaces attending a lecture in class).
I appreciate the professors passion for the subject, but he is overcomplicating the play and he is effectively obfuscating the profundity of The Bacchae rather than articulating it. He is lost in the structure, projecting a frustrating amount of sophistication onto what is, in reality, a really simple story. Not only that, he does not even appear to know the meaning that Euripides is conveying with his choices. For example, he dwells on the 5 different forms Dionysus appears in the story, only to completely mischaracterize the significance-Bacchus takes different forms because he is a shapeshifter, he is the god who wears masks, the god who comes and goes, the god of the theater itself. It has nothing to do with Dionysus “not recognizing himself” *eye roll* nor does is relate to his “works”. There is no certainty that two of these works are even Bacchus’ own [the earthquake was most likely Zues work, and the account of maenids tapping milk from the hillside is likely a fantastical lie told by the messenger.] The profundity of the Bacchae is in the inevitability and ineluctability of Dionysus’ rule. It is in his power to enchant your mother, your wife, and your daughter, to compel them to engage in orgies and forsake their own children. It is about the powerlessness of Bacchus opponents and futility of resisting his will. It is also about the fact that the initiates into his cult do not even understand what they worship and why they are worshipping it. In this way, the professor is a bit closer to the mark, at least in spirit, as he does not understand what he is lecturing.
The all-knowing ghost of Cormac McCarthy has spoken.
Just love the clock analogy!
Priceless lecture on Tragedy
Calling the furies a "dream come true" is brilliant.
Thanks so much for an insightful series of lectures. These talks have inspired me to read and research more of these works as I've not reviewed them since undergrad. I am heading to Athens next week for a PhD residency and am better prepared for my trip and look forward to learning more about this area of study.
Most Excellent Presentation..........should ve broadxasted worldwode.....
The depth of ambiguity in this work was not apparent to me before. Really appreciate these lectures!
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A lot of great series of lectures unfortunately have poor quality and no subtitles, such that valuable information is missed. This is not one of those. Wonderful job on the filming and editing.
I'm using study of Greek Tragedy to analyze McCarthy's No Country for Old Men and from 1:00 onward, this is really helpful.
This one was poo poo caca
Really getting a lot out of this series.
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This professor delivers very taro lectures about philosophy and classical Greek tragedy explaining very the meaning of human destiny. He’s my personal friend we talk via email he promised to let me know when he will be giving lecture in New York. ua-cam.com/video/vYTRbUA1TXc/v-deo.htmlsi=t476xWko5AkAMKhm 😅
If this is his first lecture of the semester, imagine having to write a paper on Ancient Greek Philosophy and hope for a passing grade?! His tangential lecturing never ends. Oh yes, this only gets worse in the remaining lectures. Run away, before your demise is fully realized!
I feel sorry for you. You're missing out on a helluva lecture.
@@pablobarosa27 I’ve been tortured by him for a full year in the past. I’m not missing anything. And you are wrong. There are many other ways to develop critical thinking skills but this is absurdity at its finest. He is locked into an extremely narrow field of study that is completely impractical in the real world. Learning some Greek words is not worth being suckered into being forced into writing lengthy papers for him and expecting to impress him with your knowledge as a Freshman. (Of course I enjoyed passively listening to his lectures. It was perfect for learning how to jump from one distant connection to another.) Unfortunately there is nothing wrong for some people to twiddle their thumbs for a year. On the “other hand,” I was able to recover and reach my successful, unrelated career with a postdoctoral degree.
I don't think I understood this.
You are one of the only honest respondents on this thread. I took this course for a full year and later realize what a waste!
Why not publish a Kindle version as well? Doesn't St. Augustine Press want to generate more revenues and sell more books?
42:25 I really like that idea. That she was testing him with walking on the tapestry to see if his motives were pure. She wanted to know if he sacrificed her daughter truly in reverence to the gods or because he was thirsty for glory. If he walks on the tapestry, which is described as heavenly, than he does not actually respect the gods and actually sacrificed her just to glut his thirst for glory. That blew my mind. You always find at least one gem in lectures like these. Philosophers always analyze literature way better than actual literature professors.
Wow! I saw your comment before he spoke it and I was gobsmacked. Never once have I seen it in anything I’ve read on Agamemnon-and I’ve read a lot.
Δεινός!
fantastic lecture, thank you
O'Neill's "Mourning Becomes Electra" brought me here. Davis' style and clarity have made me stay for all the lectures. Bravo!
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This lecture - what an extraordinary phasma!
I wrote a comment here where is my comment?
Why didn't the Furies immediately come after Oedipus ri😅after he killed his father?
Life-changing experiences happened in my life without my brightest intentions, and certainly without any expectations. The list is long starting from how I immigrate it to United States, or even earlier how I bought a silly machine to make wood stretchers, but I didn’t know how to do it. A year later I made good money with two employees. I purchased my first real state at age 17, all by accident. Nearly every day I notice in my art studio fortunate accidents happen. I pick up the idea and develop it into a new technology. For instance, my “visible invisible”. Parts of the painting visible only with the flash of the camera. I’m getting a patent on it. Recently, I discovered by burning sued I can use it to create enigmatic images as independent elements within a painting, or completely independent visions drawings, with a little help of charcoal afterwards. Mendeleev discovered his/ours table of elements by playing cards. Archimedes shamelessly run around Syracuse naked screaming Erica. A few minutes earlier, he discovered one of the principles of physics. Artistic genius is unexplained. As a Russian poet Alexander Pushkin said it very nicely: .”- and genius is the workings of a paradox ( И гений парадоксов труд).” Bogoslowsky .🦁🤴
Of course, the story about Constantine, the Roman emperor killing his son, and converting to Christianity. Looking for absolution is apocryphal. #Constantine never converted to Christianity and never converted Roman empire to #Christianity. The project was taken by his grandson #Theodosius. And this is the truth #Bogoslowsky
I don’t want to do anything else except for painting. I eat a little I sleep a little, sometimes. my girlfriend fulfills my needs. I help my friends. I truly enjoy education on UA-cam professor lectures on the subjects I’m passionate about. I would be very happy without Internet access. I have no desires, except to continue my lifestyle. I don’t need anything and I don’t want anything. I volunteer a few times a week at a local church and mosque distributing food to people who need it. 🤓
Can’t wait!
Another way to tell bible stories woghout using names and brinjing un wanted guilt a d shame of people beliving they had aproval antijone did what is right
Thank you for sharing.