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Kirsch Drums Players
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Unboxing a pdp concept maple to prepare for bearing edges.
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Unboxing a pdp concept maple to prepare for bearing edges.
Reinforcement ring installation - Compression fit - By Kirsch
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This video is made for Adam Ullrich at Derby City Drums. Enjoy sir! This is an oldschool technique for installing compression fit reinforcement rings. The goal of this is to create and outward tension on the shell, which supports higher tunings and adds attack at lower tuning. Used by Rogers, Camco, early dw and many other custom builders. This is not the same as just adding extra material at t...
Mark Schulman
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Check out Mark Schulman enjoying a Kirsch Drums birch studio model at Recording Studio in Portland Oregon. This video is thanks to engineer Norvin Johnson.
Grand Royale "She's Crafty" Beastie Boys Tribute at Dante's 1/17/15
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What a great show! Grand Royale. Check em out! GrandRoyaleMusic
Kirsch Travel Kit
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All the sound of a full jazz outfit in one case. Sizes are 8x10, 12x14, 14x18 and 6.5x14. Reenforcement hoops support the shell segments while the clamps twist lock them together. Also available in 12, 16, 20 and 13, 16, 22.
Makes sense Jeff. I have this same PDP kit in emerald fade and love it. Bought it new in 2008. I would put this kit up against any high end big money kit any day. It tunes up nice and easy but I do notice a slight playability factor where the stick response just doesn’t feel optimal compared to a set I played with a round over edge. I want to cut a slight round over on the outside myself. Do you have an email I can contact?
Hard or soft wood has to be a factor to consider.
I had problems with my full length tama luggs snapping I the centre. So I made gaskets out of automotive gasket paper and that seems to have done job. Been 2 years since. No problems whatsoever even with turning. With the gasket paper it confirms to the lugg and the shell. Cut the paper oversize to the lugg. Hole punch for screws. Fix the lugg to the shell and then I carefully cut around the lugg.
It also appears that those oval lugs were flat on their base rather than designed with a radiused underside that would sit perfectly flush to shell. That doesn’t seem like a recipe for success.
Damn that Bop Kits really Rocks!😂
Jeff, I still love this video. I was just looking at my Gretsch gaskets tonight. They’re so comin off!
It's weird that the PDP Centerstage, a step or two lower of a model shows it as a hybrid birch wood on some sites while others just say Poplar wood.
In this case the lug fixing holes are too close to the edge of the lug .... Causing a weakness and failure of the ply around the hole.... Once the ply starts to fail it will continue to fail....
They're all built this way but show no problems until the gaskets degrade. I drill close to the edge regularly and it's not a problem at all.
Helps a lot! I have a Keller kit that is locally built and the fabricator always said that gaskets are bad but never explained why... Still, my drums are very hard to tune, but that is another issue...
That's probably the builders choice of bearing edge. I would guess your edges are cut from inside all the way to the outside. This edge ruins tuning on keller shells.
all I see out there is 3/8" thick I'm thinking buy a 14" to put inside a 13" but they are also 2.5" deep That's too wide .....
ash preferred
where can I find rerings ?
Ross from Friends .. fits rerings
Junge, das ist Scheiße.
Do you route the inside edge any differently or at a different angle than a drum without a re-ring?
Guys what about replacing the wood hoops with metal on these PDP Concept drums ?
I’ve done that with my 12 and 13. It’s less warm. More focus…. I bought the Gibraltar triple flanged hoops. This is for the batter side only. I like the Tom’s better this way. Wood hoop on the reso, triple flanged on the batter.
Mi piace cuesta idea,come posso avere anche io.
10:23 "is this birch? this looks like birch..." 🗿🗿🗿
Do you recomand to put any wood oil or paint on the inside side on the maple wood
This is wild. Jeff, you and I sat next to each other on the bus, going down Foster Rd, way back in like 2002 or 3 or 4 or something. We got to talking, and you told me that you were in to working on drums. You talked about bearing edges specifically. I didn't think much of it at the time, but it looks like you were serious about it. Good to see that you're still passionate about the craft!
Thank You!
I suspect shipping with the heads on, shipping itself, temp changes, storage all play a part..... Anyway, what about the actual re-edging? At least one drum..... ....so I looked st the few other videos on here, and there's nothing on re-edging drums. So how about that sort of content?
Another guys video named, "Do worn bearing edges choke a drum", he does sand the tom shell down on another channel.
Thanks Jeff great video found you on drum history do you have more content is this your only channel?I’m more of a hobbyist super fun love drums your you saying don’t go super tight with this process with Keller shells?
I'm a bit confused here, because on your page your drums also seem to have gaskets. Are they special gaskets?
The gaskets on his drums are visual effect only. They're just an o-ring that rests around the cercumference of the lug. Just to make people think they have them.
@@drumrboynoid Also, maybe because removing them could affect tuning ease and look kind of...dumb? I put gaskets on my snare today (built it a fewmm undersized I guess). Routed from cheap vinyl baseboard material. Lug splay doesn't affect tuning (IME) unless you're really cranking up high. It never sounds bad, but it always looks wrong.
@@DrMackSplackem Removing gaskets improves tuning. Particularly tuning range. If your drums only sing at one note, its because the gaskets are choking out the shells responsiveness. Floating the tuning parts on gaskets is something you'll never see on any other instrument. Because it's silly.
@@portlanddrums Yeah, fortunately the drum doesn't suffer from that issue. All I needed was for the rods not to bind at high tunings. I could've instead used some hardwood spacer material to get the splay angle under control, but this ended up working fine.
This could have been a 30 second video. Moral of the story...you don't need gaskets and don't over tighten your lugs. The end.
So can 99% of every other video on UA-cam. Dont hate the player, hate the game.
I disagree, this video has it all! Including comedy and a pg13 warning!
They don't design a drum for the head. Those heads should be replaced anyway.
Sweetwater!!!!!!!!
Is this the same process for installing the locating collar/ring in your nesting bass drum and floor tom shells?
It is! Makes for a very stable lock between the shells and eliminates buzz.
Use a brush next time. Also, no need for glue on both surfaces. More glue doesn't mean better bond...
Super constructive suggestions from the guy with no content. Brushes create waste and serve no other purpose than to keep my finger clean. But water does that. When compressing one piece inside the other, it takes lubing up both pieces. Just cause there's glue on both pieces doesn't mean there's too much. Very minimal glue to clean.
Thanks! I just ordered some reinforcement rings and was wondering how to install. They are too big to just fit in. Cheers!
Enjoy! Tighter is definitely better than loose.
nice but the bag looks like a 22inch bag for an 18 kick.If you remove the riser and the legs of the kick ,which have togo into the hardware bag anyway,it could fit into a much smaller 18inch bag.
Yeah, you're right. It does fit in a smaller bag. I made this video with what I had around at the time. This kits owner thought having the extra padding inside was worth the extra few inches of space taken up. Since the kit was being checked on a plane, he knew it would get thrown around.
Awesome!! Where can I purchase the exact set up, case and all?
I've got three available. Check out kirschdrums.com or you can email or call from the site.
The drummer has to do the entire show?
We usually do a break in the middle where the mc's and dj do a 3 song set. Otherwise yeah I play the whole time. 🙌
Could imagine this being quite heavy once all packed into one bag
41 pounds. Not bad. Checkable on a plane
cool, but be ready to reach down deep into your wallet.
Nah. My prices are way less than others of equal quality
Ficou massa a compactação gostei da hora .
i would really love to hear how this bop kit sounds like! im way to interested in this now
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I wish more people did beastie boys covers this siiiic! Well done! 🤘🏻
They do an entire show of Beasties! It's so much fun!
So... what are you supposed to do with that extra cushion at the end?
Sounds awesome....great for the neighbours ?
AWESOME!
Gotta love a nesting kit. Finally the drummer doesn't have to take 300 trips to the car to the stage.
Cymbal bag used as a snare bag? Now I've seen everything.
A drummer designed this kit.
What sourcery is this?!?!?! I ran into this video looking at the flat travel kits, but this is just on a whole different level!...And apparently I’m about five years late to the party smh
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How does that affect the sound?
Shut up and take my money !!
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Where can I buy one of these?
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