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I'm trying to picture how I would chop something holding these stones in the position you are showing. If held the other way the polish would be elsewhere. Perhaps a demostration would help.

Amazing Scientific Method !

In new to all this … but actually like this view

I agree, at least with your point that many stones are inaccurately claimed to have been mounted. Although a lot of the specifics regarding NA tools and weapons remain a mystery, the difficulty of securing a 5-lb stone to a stick and then carrying and using it is easy to see.

Lenny, hands hold everything. Tools were not used enough to produce hand or especially finger polish. An adze or groved axe would be used longer than flake tools. Flake tools used for one task doesn't have finger holds or grips worn into it nor was it intentional. Hands fit everything they touched! No need for finger grips!

🎉 Thank you! Very informative. I’ve been collecting a lot of artifacts here in Flint Michigan. You might want to think about coming to Flint! It certainly undergone a rebirth with the Charlesmont foundation who created the culture of center, including the flint, Michigan large, the upper hatch, in the community, Playhouse, and planetarium. my name is Bob Hendren MO address in Flint. I’ll be happy to provide you and I hope you’ll take about making a trip here in the spring although I’m sure we are both under Artifacts the long stream badge when conditions were very cold and there was a lot of snow.

Dude claims to know exactly who made a tool. Pretty silly.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree 100%.

Very good analogy Lenny. I've often questioned the halting of axes. I do agree with splitting a sapling and binding the axe to allow the tree to grow into the groove. But some of the huge axes 10 pounds plus would be hard to swing unless you were a huge person? I do think from wear on the poll of some they were spalling huge chert nodules?

Very interesting theory. My family has property with lots of Native American artifacts. One particularly nice specimen is an “axe.” It is highly polished with a groove around its entire circumference. I was recently pondering how it was hafted and I just couldn’t settle on a way that made sense. It seems too thick and unnecessarily cumbersome. In addition, the heel of the stone looks to be heavily used, but not the blade. It began making more sense to me that the stone was a hand tool, maybe a Mano? Or perhaps just an in-hafted axe. Your proposition will make me take a closer look.

I have a grooved grinding stone, found in central VA., the groove is L shaped and contoured to fit the thumbs. I also have a fine, although worn down, grooved axe that was decorated with pecked patterns. Catch up with me, I'll email you photos, or pay a visit one day...

Very nice!

Where are your Artifacts found, what state sir??

Check out my Archaic Axe head from Michigan. ua-cam.com/users/shortswKQLczo-Aas?feature=share

This guy is a flake

The advanced thought processes of a blithering idiot.

Bro come on

Well ...if the finger fits 😂

ideas are ok. Of course we have now fluent historical data. These people we're much more intelligent than most expected. atlatl and feathered arrows existed alongside mammoth kills & mechanical bellowed blowers and furnaces were made are still made practices in many areas remain to this day. This is a simple man cornered in His stubborn positions. THIS is why we have higher education partnerships & study. He's wrong of course..knowing this with confidence is not ivy league tho 😂😆. Ohh boy

They could attach all projectile points to wooden shafts but not axes?

that "all of a sudden change" is called discovering the "lever"

what about all the hafted examples ? are they fakes made by the evil archaeologists funded by the shadow government to discredit you ?

GOOD STUFF

You have your opinion. But your wrong.

I'm always interested in an idea that goes against conventional belief. An idea someone publishes becomes accepted as if it's factual information, when it is actually just another - earlier- idea which (also) makes sense. Then someone else comes along with a new idea and everyone jumps on the "how ridiculous... Everyone knows it's this other way" bandwagon as if they have some personal knowledge on the idea. They're idea came from the same place everyone elses idea came from: earlier published accounts on the subject. And there we, as a species, sit in stagnation never moving forward in our understanding of our own past. It's bizarre to me how this occurs with almost every area of science and/or history. Your ideas make sense. You obviously have a lot of personal experience with the objects themselves, and have spent a lot of time making sense of your ideas to yourself (a time consuming process, I know). And now, thanks to your videos, they make sense to (some) others as well. Keep it up.

Some bad theories here... thumbnail scrapers were used as described, but not every flake was utilized. Side notched, bottom notched, stemmed, etc, were knives and spears. They were designed to be hafted and were. Too much over thinking here has led to some bad theories.

Lenny please take a bath. You are very crisp.

Please look at my artifacts. Lenape tribe. Delaware River. Lots of effigies.

Some people are still dreaming.

Can you please look at my artifacts. From the Delaware River. Lenape tribe. Lots of effigies. Celts points .more.

Learn to flint knap. You will realise how wrong your idiotic theories are. Youre just as confused as the effigy idiots.

This guy is a moron. There are no drills in the case he picked up. They are all projectile points. Waste of time listening to this garbage. What a fool.

Not physical evidence but physical theory.

Many of the easier designs to make and found in various locations and depths, could have been made anytime from 200 hundred to 5000 years ago. If I can copy almost any point or tool, with primitive tools only, then it could have been done by anyone , for thousands of years. Native people of the past also found points and tools by others before them, used them, copied them, modified them and everything else. So to put a particular design in a particular time frame is bogus thinking. You can only try to date a particular site or excavation.

I believe that there's quite a bit of reworking damaged or worn tools and points

Great points! No pun intended. I agree to be more open minded with tools even though there had to be hundreds of arrows, atladles, and spears this is still a great observation. I'd also like to add that science and biblical archeology has proven the earth has in fact only been around about 6000 years and that most artifacts in the Americas are only about 2k to 3k years old and what we find is probably only 300 to 1000 years old. That's what I think so traditions probably changed rapidly if any. My theory.

Natives Used Them Axe's To Clear Land And Cut Wood,I Wanna Watch You Cut Tree's, And Clear Off Land Holding Just A Axe Head,Then I'll Mow My Yard With A Skill Saw

Well I guess it’s my turn to add my two cents for what it’s worth I don’t necessarily believe grooved axes were held in the hand for one thing there is not enough leverage or force to be able to chop wood of any great quantities this way. The next thing is what about all the axes They have been found in dry caves and in the deserts of our southwest that actually still have hafting still on them. Why would an individual spend all that time grooving a stone and then putting it in his hand and not Halfting it. Just my two cents.

It’s awesome you found these but even our ancestors understood the lever! 😂

I live on a lake on Minnesota river valley area where it was mostly Lakota territory. Some old asphalt is breaking up where the lake once was and im finding some amazing things. I just don't know what to do from here. I want to preserve what I can...

Outstanding collection !! Ummm the theories on using them tho..good Maine weed..it's always good to think out of the box and present new ideas that's how science advances..but..ummm..ya..next !!

I've been artifact hunting for over 35yrs and have boxes of the scrappers exactly like the ones shown here and do agree on those but have to disagree on the points and notches for finger holds..here in western Pa anyhow there's no possible way the notches could be used as finger holds the notches to ear are far to small to hold for any leverage ..good video and keep thinking out of the box that is how science advances..👍

Jesus where do all you fruitcakes come from ?

It's called atlatal and darts side notch finger points

God i forgot how dumb this guy is about this is dart points used before the bow points our drills guy is a tool has nothing but speculation that he thought of

Lenny acts like an expert but really is a smelly peasant

Extend your working hand out in front of you. Flatten your hand with the palm up. Now allow your fingers to relax, and let your hand close naturally. Your hand is now in a position to hold something ergonomically. It’s been my observation that this guy is onto something. The ridges and bumps create little spots of friction for a no slip grip. I’ve also noticed that this grip means you can hold a sharp object without cutting yourself. I’ve been observing this for years and have gotten to the point I can identify whether or not a tool has a left hand hold, or a right hand hold without even picking up the stone. I’ve also noticed on a lot of the so-called arrowheads that I’ve collected that they have one edge that is worn more than the other indicating that it may have been used more like a knife.

No

Your showing a drill.it not a finger tool.most of the time