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Thanks for watching. We had a 2019 Forester Sport and wished we had kept that instead. We have since traded this car in to better fit our adventure needs. As our adventures grew, the trails we encountered have also increased in difficulty. If you haven't seen it, check out what we traded it in for here. ua-cam.com/video/3sS31GQ8yD8/v-deo.htmlsi=90bD9P-yNb2BY0Ot

We did have an XL Thule cargo box on our roof rack that ruined our MPGs as well. The higher ground clearance, all terrain tires, and small 2.4L engine with twin turbos was overworked at higher speeds and off the line from a complete stop. You are right though, a CVT is supposed to be good on gas, but it just wasn't in our experience. They advertised this car as an off-road ready car, but, in our opinion, a CVT is not very good off road, especially with slow uphill climbs and if the road is uneven. A Toyota 4runner gets 15MPGs, but at least that car is more capable. Not everyone takes their car offroad, but since we do, it would be worth it for us to sacrifice MPGs for more capability. We have since traded this car in to fit our specific needs. Check out what we replaced it with here. ua-cam.com/video/3sS31GQ8yD8/v-deo.htmlsi=KXyv4IEz4P2Je9mW

Of course we loved this car when we first got it but after some real world experience with it, it just wasn't what we wanted for our overlading adventures. Maybe when/if they put a regular automatic transmission in this, we will give it another chance. The infotainment looks nice from a aesthetic point but I also hope they put back the physical buttons for the things you need to control while driving (radio/music, climate control, etc..) but they also need to fix/update the software so it's not so laggy. Very unusable when it's so slow to respond to touches.

And they also advertise it as off road ready vehicle but it's only good on maintained forest roads and some light trails. As our adventures have gotten more difficult, so have the trails. That's why we went with 4x4 with lockers and even more ground clearance. If you're not doing any offroading, then this car is ok, but the infotainment is so laggy, it's almost dangerous to use while driving. It doesn't make sense because our older 2019 Subaru Forester Sport had a really good response infotainment with physical buttons for the main things you use while driving (radio, climate control, driver settings, heated seats, etc..) They somehow went backwards making everything on the touch screen and having it be so laggy. Hopefully it'll be better after their new redesign.

Get to your local Ford store and go inside a Raptor, not a regular F150, but a "Raptor." Its hard to explain unless you've actually been inside both cars. Its interior is WAY bigger than my Outbacks, the truck bed is WAY bigger than the trunk of my Outback, and it's WAY more capable off road than my Outback too. Not only that, but putting a truck bed camper like GFC completely transforms our truck into a full adventure rig. Check it out here. images.app.goo.gl/GEerKTS53SrAmb6v5

It handled all of our gear plus our cargo box on top of the roof rack pretty well. Plenty of power from the 2.4L turbo engine to handle all the things you pack in the car. Suspension was really comfortable on the highway. 👍🏽

The roof box kills our MPGs for sure. The CVT doesn't have real gears. It only simulates them. Keeping it in gear 1 doesn't give you any more crawl ratio. The car is great on light dirt trails and maintained forest roads but once you into any situation where you have to go slow or use momentum or risk damaging your car, you'll see that the CVT can't pull you up. It has a slight delay in laying down the power. Try this if you can. Pull your car right up in front of a curb with the wheels touching the curb, fully stop, and then try to crawl up that curb, you'll see what I mean. Now, imagine that on a dirt road with only one rear wheel having grip and the other up in the air. We wanted to keep this car but traded it in at 27000 miles. After adventuring with it for 27k miles, our adventures have evolved, and so have the trails we want to go on. So we decided to get a 4x4 with lockers and it has been night and day with the trails we go on. Not saying the Subaru wasnt capable but we knew we wanted something more capable for all the times we had to turn around because of trail conditions. See what we replaced it with here! ua-cam.com/video/3sS31GQ8yD8/v-deo.htmlsi=_Ge-GfhQP9Dbaudp

There is no gears.

@@ryanb8736 yup, only fake simulated gears in a CVT.

@@ryanb8736 true, but there are gear ratios that the CVT can be held at using the Manual function, just like the gear ratios of "actual" gears in an AT or MT. The logical difference is minimal, and it is a worthy thing to try. The computer will try to start at as high a ratio as possible for fuel economy, but forcing it into a low ratio may produce better results.

It is the 2.4L turbo engine as well. The 2 cars are pretty identical but the Subaru Outback Wilderness has a slightly higher ground clearance and different gearing for the Xmode functions. Congratulations on your new car! 👍🏽

I agree 👍🏽 We would have been more comfortable if we had a second car here. We don't mind doing mild trails alone but we always play it safe depending on trail conditions. It's always changing and you never know how it'll be next time you go on the same trail. We will be back to try this trail again!

Nice! We were also looking at the ZR2 Bison but it was sold out in my area. Congratulations on the new car👍🏽 Way more capable and with more room as well. We definitely love our new truck as well.

I agree 👍🏽 This car would be so much better with a traditional 6 speed auto. We wanted to love this car but we also had to trade it in after this video. We ended up getting a Ford Raptor and definitely much more happy with it. Plus we're in the market for a truck cap camper as well! Maybe a GFC, Harker, or Orudesign. But it has been night and day with the Raptor.

Thanks for the advice👍🏽 ill be better next time.

Yes they have usb and an auxiliary jack right underneath the infotainment area 👍🏽 the newer ones i heard don't have the same laggy issues. I would research that 👍🏽

@@youraveragejoeadventures thanks and congrats on the family!

@@kohort1 thanks! Let me know what you end up getting👍🏽

Oh wow! That sounds bad! It almost makes the car unusable if it goes out like that. The worse we ever had it was during a really bad fog and I was trying to adjust the climate control. We already couldn't see let alone trying to look down to adjust things. But yours sounds way more scary! Glad you're ok though👍🏽

By the way. There is an attachment you can put in your car which cancels auto/stop start feature. If you hate it maybe get one of those. I have learnt to live with it by pressing the ignition and the auto/stop start button on at the same time which effectively cancels it. Not sure about your model though, as its all touch screen based.

@Slayer_of_truth Nice! Congratulations on your car! Go explore with it. Theres a setting to turn the auto start/stop off but i just dont like how you have to do every single time you turn the car on. I like the way the touch screen looks but I wish it had some physical buttons for certain functions. I did find that having everything integrated on the touch screen makes it dangerous to change things while driving because you have to take your eyes off the road to change anything like the temperature controls, your music, off road controls and even the heated seats. You don't realize how important physical controls are until you don't have them lol Have fun on your adventures and be safe👍🏽

@@youraveragejoeadventureslets hope they bring it all back to buttons for the 2025. I doubt it though

@Slayer_of_truth this generation just came out 2022, so it will still be a couple more years before a new redesign. In the meantime, they should definitely update the screen to be less laggy. 👍🏽

I'm glad they have such a system in place because in the event of a real crash, it could be the difference between crashing at full speed and maybe reducing the impact of such crash. I'm sure it will improve with time which will be good for all of us. 👍🏽

I agree 👍🏽 but we already replaced this car. After overlanding with it in the last year and a half, we knew we needed something just a little bit more capable. As we grew in our adventures, the trails have also elevated in difficulty. If you haven't done so, I did an episode of what we replaced it with here. ua-cam.com/video/3sS31GQ8yD8/v-deo.htmlsi=tc2IF5XPI6amU9Ep

We had the 2022, the first year it came out. lve seen the newer ones have better screens and not as laggy from reviews here on UA-cam but I still think having to take your eyes off the road to adjust things is still dangerous. Even after the update, it was still laggy for us unfortunately. We had a 2019 Subaru forester sport before this car and that screen was fantastic. A newer 2022 model shouldn't go backwards in my opinion but I'm glad they fixed it for the 2024 models 👍🏽

@@youraveragejoeadventures your point is very valid. I agree with everything in your video. Love my 2024 and the screen is gorgeous but it is super dangerous

@@joshuarivera3617 we miss our Subaru Outback Wilderness 🥲 But we had to upgrade to accommodate for our new baby boy. Enjoy yours!

I have a 2024 and my infotainment is laggy. Mostly at startup, that's when it's most noticeable when I'm trying to click accept on the first popup and turn my auto start/stop off.. usually a delay of several seconds, even if I let the car warm up first. It's not frequent, but sometimes while driving it gets laggy too and won't skip radio stations for a few seconds. I've also had it freeze on start up once where I had to turn the car off and walk away for a minute and restart. It's garbage.

@saintless I agree 👍🏽 A car that was around $45k (in my area) shouldn't come with issues like this in the first place. You can get something more capable, better infotainment, and all around more capable for the same price range. Something like a 4runner, any 4x4 midsized truck (tacoma, frontier, or zr1) just to name a couple. But it really depends on what you intend to use your vehicle for. Most people I know only see the malls and grocery store with their rigs, for us, we definitely needed capability because we overland a lot in our car.

I agree 👍🏽 It wasn't too bad, especially with a good sleeping bag.

I agree 👍🏽 Not having buttons to feel while driving is dangerous too! It forces you to take your eyes off the road.

thanks man 😁 this will come in handy for our summer BBQ's and beach days.

You're welcome 👍🏽

No worries, bro. The regular Outback is rated for 26mpg city and 33mpg highway 👍🏽 That will go down depending on how much gear you are carrying, though.

This one has been a game changer. Crazy how it works off solar too. The modern cooler at its finest. Thanks for watching as always bro!

Do you like yours?

@@youraveragejoeadventures to tell you I tolled it a year and a half ago. Slid on ice pack and the car saved my life the Tesla I hit head on saved my life it was a Subaru outback limited edition car I was driving and I also what to sell Subaru case it dr august 16th .

@@artistcarter7657 oh so sorry to hear that. I am glad you are ok. Subarus do have a really high crash safety rating and you cant put a price on safety!

The Wilderness may be the best option if MPG is what you are looking for. For us, we wanted more capability. The Wilderness is definitely capable enough, but our adventure needs have evolved over the years and wanted to hit more trails that this car had a hard time doing. So if you never go offroad, then this car might be the best option for you. It all depends on what you're going to use it for. For example, if we were hitting more difficult offroad trails but still wanted the space and storage, we would get something like a 4runner or a truck with 4x4 and lockers but if we barely went off road and mostly drive on pavement, then we would have kept the Wilderness because its a very comfortable and safe road trip car thats great on all seasons (snow, rain, dry and even light forest roads). You have to trade some MPG for capability or vice versa. Hope that helps👍🏽 Also if you haven't done so, I made a video on what we traded our Wilderness in for if you haven't seen it yet 🤙🏽 check it out if you can!

@@youraveragejoeadventures looking for something for space. Car camping is a big feature. The length of the space with rear seats folded is the most important. I’m not sure how much of the wilderness features we will use. They are basically bonuses or maybe depending on how bad the winter is here in NY might come in handy. My only other idea is a rav4 but I think it’s smaller.

@gravediggermordekai7032 if you're barely going to use it for the Wilderness features and looking for great car camping space, I might look into an AWD Honda Pilot or a Toyota Grand Highlander. Both are have more interior space and also AWD for different weather conditions. We also use to camp in a minivan van that had lots of space to sleep us plus our 2 dogs comfortable inside by removing the middle seats while car camping. Some minivans also have AWD systems. When we car camped in our Wilderness, we had to add a Thule cargo box on top to store all of our things but it killed our MPGs(16-18MPGs). If you car camp inside, you won't have much room to put all your gear unless you don't mind putting everything in the front seats. We always had a rule to keep the driver seat empty in case we needed to leave in an emergency or in a hurry(say bears are outside getting our food and trying to come in, it's more common here in CA in some areas). For reference, I'm about 5'11 200 lbs and my wife is 5'3 and we are pretty snug in the back of the Wilderness. I couldn't sit up but she could while laying in the back.

We did do our research and still liked the car for what it is. Our adventure needs just evolved and wanted something more capable after htting the trails for a couple of years now. But we're way ahead of you. We traded it in back in January almost 6 months ago. I made a video of what traded it in for on my page. Check that out if you haven't seen it yet and let me know what you think 🤙🏽

They can't offer it but it's not too hard to program it yourself with a small mod.

I don't know what TCV is. In this video, I'm definitely talking about the CVT (Continously Variable Transmission). It's all under warranty, but I only mention it in this video because this car is advertised as an outdoor, offroad capable car but its CVT, in my opinion, holds it back in some offroad scenarios.

Haha😅 Youre one of 2 with a postive comment! Read all the other comments, people hate my Raptor. Everyones been giving me crap for switching cars. 😂 I wonder why? 🤔

@@youraveragejoeadventures haha I should be hating I ordered a Wilderness on Friday. I found your channel researching the car and now you got rid of it lol. Enjoy the Raptor my man it is a beautiful truck. Love that color

@BennythaJet don't worry, you will still love your Wilderness! We just wanted to go on harder trails and after 25,000 on it, we knew we wanted something a little more capable. Still a great car though! Congrats!

Yes you can, you can turn all the driving aids off if you didn't want any of them on. 👍🏽

Ours is the 22 as well. We bought it when the wilderness model first came out. I've seen some of the 2024 reviews and to me, it looks the same. It'll be another couple of years before a new redesign, especially with this version only coming out 2 years ago. We've since gotten rid of ours and upgraded to a new overland/offroad car at the start of this year. If you haven't seen it, I uploaded that episode on my page as well 👍🏽

I'm a '24 owner. Same shit.

@saintless the software could be fixed but it's up to Subaru. I'm sure they are aware of the problem because it's all over the forums online.

This one actually does but it only last 4-6 hours. That's good enough for a beach day but I have my huge portable power station that keeps it on for a couple of days at a time. So I didn't bother getting the battery for it.

I normally have 2x100w solar panels on top of my Subaru crosstrek powering bluetti ac200max that kept my iceco 55qt but over this past winter we started using the iceco has a second fridge in the house plus the ice wasn't duel zone so I just ordered the bouge rv 37qt with the battery and cover and I'm not really happy keeping the bluetti on job sites so I'm going with the ecoflow river 2 pro but I was hoping you had experience with the battery pack because the river pro is only 750w or so and if it's a cloudy day I was wondering how long the battery might back everything up

@roberterickson6331 in my experience, our 540wH smaller power station usually kept the fridge on for 1-2 days. My Bluetti AC200P with a 2000wH battery capacity kept my portable fridge on for about 5-7 days. We also found out that depending on the weather will determine how long your battery would last. In the summer with temperatures reaching close to 100 degrees, my fridge was running more often to keep things cold and that killed my smaller power station in 8-10 hours while camping in the winter with the fridge not having to work so hard to keep things cold, that same smaller power station lasted 2+ days. Also using the portable fridge as just a fridge vs using it as a freezer also affected the battery life. In my case, i knew the battery pack would be useless because of how small the capacity is on it for what we use our fridge for.

I was getting around 20-22 MPGs when we took off our cargo box. We do live up in the hills though. So that kills our MPGs having to drive up to go home everyday.

Thank you sir! 👍🏽

Thank you for watching 👍🏽 It was a really good car and I think it would be great for most people but if you plan to go offroading, you are always going to be limited by the CVT. Too bad too because we were so excited when we got this car. But as our adventures are getting more difficult, we knew we had to upgrade to a more capable car sooner or later.

Thank you👍🏽

Lol! I agree. This was the first car I owned that had a CVT.

Thank you!

Sad to say, the infotainment system is just not very good for a 2022 car. Our 2019 Subaru Forester had a really good infotainment system that was responsive and worked well. It sucks that a newer car would have a worse screen. I'm hoping they fix this minor issue because the car, overall, was a really great car for road trips and going on light trails. Thank you for watching!

You should! We can go together. That way, I have a support car in case something happens and I'm not alone 👍🏽

We got it brand new back in 2022 when the Wilderness model first came out for about $43,000.

Thank you! We also had no idea how that civic made it there let alone camp out on the beach next to us in the sand! I recently just went here again during the heavy rains and it definitely changed the trail to the point where I know for sure my Subaru wouldn't have made it but only due to ground clearance. Luckily we took our Ford Raptor this time around and we're lucky we did. Some parts were so wet and muddy, the truck started sliding towards the wall on certain downhill sections. I'll be posting that video soon👍🏽

You should come out on our next adventure!

Lol damn, I didn't know my personal life decisions had that much impact on yours. My dogs are like family to me and we all fit in quite nice. The interior space is quite bigger than my Outback Wilderness. Also were getting a GFC truck camper for the truck. Thanks for the advice though 👍🏽 I bet you've never owned either one of these cars because if you did, you would know just how much bigger a full size super crew F150 is. Maybe when you have a big family you will understand. I am just an average Joe, I never claimed to be anything other than that hence why I named my channel that. I'm not the smartest, not the best, nor do I claim to be. I live and learn just like everyone else. This UA-cam thing is just a side gig for me because I'm lucky enough to be blessed with a great life as it is. My priorities are my family which includes my dogs, you clown 🤡

How so?

@@youraveragejoeadventures By buying a car that would not work for your family.

@RT-tn4ry we've had it for 6 months now and it's exactly what we wanted. More rinterior oom, more capable off road and more storage space. We go through cars a lot not because any of them are bad, but because we love experiencing new cars. We probably wont have this car for more than 2 years, if that. I take care of all my cars and they all take care of me. If your talking about money wise, then fortunately, my family and I are well off and have a blessed life. This truck ain't nothing but a material thing that can easily be replaced for us and we're grateful to be in this situation. We also.feel safe inside this car, it's already gotten us through a bad thunderstorm that flooded our neighborhood. Why do you hate the Raptor? Did YOUR Raptor give you issues? If so, share them with me so I know what to expect.

LOL!