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called out the linear map design so long ago only to be met with peak 10/10 it will probably be better on launch day

The first 20 hours I couldn’t put it down but.. like it’s being dragged out badddd unfortunately. So much padding :/ I’m going to finish it but, at least where I’m at rn, feels like a real slog

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Here's my opinion on the game: It's amazing. I miss being able to save on the fly, though, like dream team and paper jam introduced. It ran much smoother, and it was much easier to find a stopping point. In this game you can accidentally bump into a five-minute cutscene just trying to walk twelve paces to a nearby save block. Other than that, I love Brothership. (About Snoutlet: He sounds like Rocket the Raccoon in my head. If anyone can piece together why, you get an invisible, air-flavored cookie from me!)

paper jam beating it? NAH here you are wrong, paper jam is probably the worst mario and luigi game, i don't see how is it wrong for you to go to each island, because brothership to me is about exploring the island and find new people and problem to solve whille also relax in the shipshape island, is a verry relaxing game that no other mario luigi game can even achive i simply disagree with your statement but i see where you are coming from and no it is not repeptitve and most of what you do, heck even the side quests are part of the overall plot

I’ve got some problems with the game. The dialogue is way too on the nose. A lot of the things from earlier games are gone or half-baked (the chase sequences, gimmick fights, proper rematches that aren’t just one-and-done, boss guantlets). The movement is completely borked (Luigi auto-jumping in the overworld is so bad, they make an animation to justify him and Mario needing to “meet back up”). The choices make it so that certain items can never be acquired throughout the game. A soft PONR that makes fighting old enemies impossible. Aside from all that, I liked Snoutlet as a companion. Reminds me a lot of Hawk from Seven Deadly Sins. Overall, I give it a 6/10.

my only problem with the game is that you have to find those save blocks to save your game or wait for an autosave but since i don’t have a lot of time sometimes 30 minutes of my playtime is lost and i have to do it again but other then that i don’t have any problems with the game. I really like the art style behind the game, the story itself and that its full of content.

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Personally, I don't think story is an important aspect in video games, even in rpgs.

I think Snoulet is a pretty good partner & is way better than Starlow. He isn’t a bully to Luigi, he doesn’t have too many tutorials & some are skip able, & he’s funny.

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idk if you want a good story then mario & luigi isnt ever gonna give you one, i mainly enjoy their writing for the humor and wacky scenarios the bros get put in

4/10 lol

Personally, I dig the island concept. You don't even know from the map what location you'll find next! But your point is totally valid, even if it doesn't bother me as much. And to be fair, even if I couldn't put it into words, I noticed it too. In Mario RPGs of the past, there was more to a place than "Complete the gameplay loop objective". In Bowser's inside Story, you ended up in the Underground Mine because you got blasted from Bowser's Castle. It didn't feel planned, you just happened to land there, when you were supposed to DIE, and it was a major turning point in the story, setting off a chain reaction of leading Bowser to Toad Town, where he would hear about the Miracle Cure. In TTYD, A certain partner in Chapter 4 wouldn't have joined your party if they had recognized you, and THAT wouldn't have happened if a certain mischievous hadn't fought you. At the end of the day, it's a matter of the events and plot progression feeling organic. And when you follow a specific gameplay loop that triggers the story (Looking for islands in order to trigger story events instead of those things happening by themselves beyond the player's choices), it's easy to remember "I'm playing a video game", which is a crucial issue to address in an RPG. While not breaking entirely, it can thin the immersion in a sense. There is a painfully obvious pattern, whereas in other games, there isn't. Personally a nitpick of mine is that aside from IDLE, little to none of the stories that happen on the individual islands create a chain reaction in the story. At least, so far. I only just got to the third ocean myself, lol.

I mean all of the MLs feel and are extremely linear outside of specific segments that imo really dont benefit from being nonlinear anyways. Plus the whole mini-scenario + multiple of the same things format is a staple of Paper Mario that I don't really see get criticized much in that instance, praised actually. It actually partially is a con to me in PM because they usually do little with the main plot until the last chapter or two but that is not the case for Brothership. A lot happens, like how Sea 2 has the throughline of Zokket's birds kidnapping people, which directly leads to the production of Glohm. Even some of the less plot relevant islands still have important stuff being introduced/built up like Bulbfish being the proper introduction of Glohm and also to the Fire & Ice couple.

You made some interesting points here. While it is true that most islands aren't directly related to the main story, I personally still felt that sense of adventure and not really knowing exactly what's next. Yeah, you can generally expect to go to a new island, solve some problem, then reconnect it. However, you never really know exactly what the next island will be like or what problem you need to solve. Brothership feels like it focuses less on the main overarching plot and more on the characters and subplots that eventually come together by the end. It's a lot like classic Paper Mario in that regard, and as a big fan of TTYD (That's my personal favorite Mario RPG), I can definitely enjoy this approach, though I can see why others might not like it quite as much. I've finished two full playthroughs by now, so it's safe to say that Brothership did a good job holding my attention, but some others don't seem quite as hooked by it, which is understandable. Also, good on you for pointing out how flawed review scores are. There's a reason I didn't let IGN's 5/10 concern me. It's just an arbitrary number at the end of the day. I honestly wish more people wouldn't care so much about review scores and would just express their opinions without trying to attach a numerical rating to it.

Yeah, this game has a serious pacing issue. Great game, but so much of it feels so slow and sluggish to play. Outside of battle, the hammer just doesn't feel good to use.

To answer your questions at the end: (its long, just so you know) I think Brothership is the weakest of the bunch by far. What I liked about the Mario RPGs is that they didnt feel like classic RPGs or when they did, they were short and sweet and had elements which kept me engaged the whole tome through. This game feels more like a classic jRPG in a sense of laying all the groundwork at the beginning of the game, introducing charakters, having a 100%clear main goal from the very start etc. This spirals into terrible pacing which is also taken from most classic jRPGs. Dream team may had a much slower pace than any game in the series prior but it wasnt bad at all. Stuff happened, charakters got introduced, gameplay elements got added in an even manner and you got to interact with the world in so many ways, whipe in brothership youre stuck with a jump (which on top of that has a slightly longer animation on top of that) until the first real boss fight and thats around 4 hours in. There are also many annoyances regarding the battle system like Luigis action starting with the A button, battle plucks taking long to adjust especially later on, loading times beeing way to long. I also think the exploration was boring if not frustrating in this game. The Luigi AI messed up way too many times for my liking, Plattforming wasnt fun at all and I felt like explorimg wasnt as rewarding as it used to be. Beans were a fantastic balance of investing time in the overworld and not only collect stuff to tickle the brain with dopamine but also making your charakters stronger instantly. Block placement also was so much better. I didnt analize why this is the case but sometthing is odd with the block placements. They made all sense in every game besides this one. Charakters were annoying for the most part. I dont think snoutlet was funny nor a cool companion to hang out with. He just brought the same line everytime and hadnt much charakter besides that. Hes on par with starlow, just being a floating textbubble for the most part. Aside from him I only liked Connie and even she desirved some better writing and more engagement at the end of the story. She was present a lot but she had a prestine Moment, in which she could've saved Mario and Luigi but they did it themselves so that opportunity also was thrown out the window. The turnip granpa is probably a top 3 maybe even the worst npc ive encountered in any videogame. The martied couple was a nice event but I didnt really care for those. I was way more engaged in the sidequest in Dreamteams Wakeport couple quest. Maybe because it wasnt forced on me and I decided myself to help other people out and not being pushed to do so. The exploring of the great sea was also dogshit, no further comments on that. I personally would give this game a 4 maybe even 5/10 because the battle system is great and the final 40 Minutes of the game were excellent aswell. All the other M&L games are 9-10/10 games for me and for reference thats my list: 1.SS (perfect all the way through, every single detail in this game works. Everything is well thoughtout and made with so much passion.) 2.Pit (the only game which encapsulates the vibes and the overall feel which SS laid down. All the small tweaks and compactness made it a great ambitious sequel while not being too outlandish) 3.Dt (bad beginning just like bis but I had to stop every Minute to appreciate the beautiful soundtrack and world) 4.PJ (fantastic gameplay and pace all the way through. All the qol and extra stuff made it a pleasent experience) 5.Bis (only dislike the beginning, but from Bowsers(fawfuls) castle onwards its heaven. I also adore the ambitions in writing and they nailed much of it especially bowser. Pushed the game forward by quite a bit. Low placing speaks for the quality of the series. Thats the view of an longtime fan. Im glad M&L is back. No idea what is going to happen now with sony buying aquire but at least attention has now fallen on the series.

And that (among other things), is why the third half of the game (4th sea, and onward) is my favorite part in Brothership. Personally, I really like the beginning though (1st and 2nd sea)

I would eat the flip out of a Luigi burger

3:28 you have completed half of the game. 5:00 they would need to make a completely new story because i have finished the game and i know that the Islands been disconnected is even more important than you think.

For context a 5/10 for me is a game that existis, doesnt do anything extremely well or badly. I would give brothership a 6

You hit the nail right on the head!! I like the theme of connection in the story but i just got to the next bigger sea and I already had to tell myself "ppl say it has a slow start-- but it'll get better" and then i see the same routine continue makes it harder to keep playing OTL initially I quite liked the idea of having of the ship travelling along the streams, thinking it's nice to have that bit of downtime to do missions and such- but it doesn't really take too much time to get to the next island and you need to be *on* the ship to be able to spot and get on them in range (especially with the reefs) just makes me wait it out and that feels like wasted time/bad :(( Snoutlet is fine tho :3 it had some pretty funny scenes and the characterization makes me hopeful for more of those in the future

Brothership feels like a really good 25 hour 3ds game that got shelved and then reanimated into a mid 50 hour switch game. The sailing mechanic is boring at best and annoying at worst. The looking around for islands and rocks feels like it would have been a gimmicky gyro thing on 3ds that got awkwardly translated to stick controls. The whole game feels so stiff to control. I absolutely hate how boring npcs stop me dead in my tracks and ramble on about the same useless information every 5 minutes. Snoutlet is neat tho I like him.

I always felt this thing, like, this is mario and luigi, but it doesn't feel like it, and I believe this is what made it so not mario and luigi. Thanks for pin pointing it for me. Also I love snoutlit, but felt starlow shouldn't have been there, because why was she in the mushroom kingdom?

My main problem is the pacing, however for me, I think it completely ruins the story. You get a fast forward button to get through the slow cutscenes much faster, but in turn makes me not care about what is going on in the story. I didn’t use it much during the first few islands, but since everything was so slow, I eventually gave in and started skipping through the cutscenes. At this point, I’ve been conditioned to skip the cutscenes because they’re slow, and since they never got better pacing-wise, I almost always skipped through all of the cutscenes. Because of this, I didn’t care about a majority of the characters introduced, so the story fell flat for me. And before someone tells me I simply shouldn’t have fast forwarded through all of the cutscenes, I just wanted to play the game, not sit through a slow story that doesn’t start until the second half of the game

M&L partners in time is my favourite m&l Game, but this one that is kind-of similar in the way you move around the islands like you moved in time just feels so wrong. I really enjoyed brothership and think it's a GREAT Game, but the plot gets stiff and it drags on for so so long

Partners in time also felt pretty linear like you were just going through levels

As someone who absolutely adores this game and doesn't really mind this design much at all, I do understand where you're coming from. Most earlier Mario & Luigis felt quicker in trying to evolve the story largely because of their more faster pacing and reliance on events happening constantly to keep interest. That's not to say Brothership doesn't have a plot like this because I argue it does, a lot of story elements are teased as early as the first sea with you barely understanding why they are there, the story has a surprising amount of twists later on that the more I think about I believe they really cooked, and honestly this game's group of NPCs are some of the best of the Mario franchise to me. However the game really does take a long awhile to truly ramp out what it really has to offer including the objectives, so I'm really not gonna blame anyone if they can't play the game for long sessions. I say it's less about the main goal within these islands and more about the developments that happens in them, because was deliberately made with a pick and up play aspect and the developers said in an interview they intended the islands to be like one 30 minute episode of an anime (Largely why I would love for a Brothership anime to exist lmao) I also feel the islands feeling incoherent to each other which can also apply to the story is kind of the point, because when you first enter Concordia you're new to everything. You don't know what's going on with anyone or anything, so your knowledge on the story and what's happening is just as mysterious. But as you connect more islands you get to explore more of Concordia and it's people and to correlate with that the story by proxy gets more interesting and twisted as well. I know some might people would disagree with this structure, but I really think it helps make the world more immersive and the endgame really what you gone through worth it

Why dose it take a couple hours in the game to get fast sailing 😢

I love Mario and Luigi brothership from beginning to end, also I argue that this game has some of the best characters in the M&L series, they are all so likeable, goofy and best of all relatable as hell too, so no problems there. My biggest issue with the game is that, things takes too long to ramp up and Bros. Attacks take too long to get especially the last two you get with Mario and Luigi, without spoiling anything, you won't get the last ones until the literal final hours of the game and honestly that sucks because they are both cool in their own right. Besides that, this is in my top 3 of Mario and Luigi games.

happy holidays!!! ignore how i completely forgot about the crystal shards it’s been the longest since i’ve played partners in time 💀 point still stands heavily tho and partners in time does more to shake things up

The pacing is just horrible. It goes from connect islands to revealing one part of the story and back to connecting islands

Partners in Time was worse in this regard.

for me its the lack of side content that the series is known for Like, no attackathon? No boss medley? If those were present then I would be more forgiving of the game's lack of bosses and bros attacks but they're just not present at all which sucks Still a top 3 m&l (tied with ss) with both dt and bis beating it

For me the pacing gets really bad at the ladder half of the game and how the jumping combos take too long to do. I didn't really have that much issue with the Ocean map as usually I just backtrack to islands for quest.

100% agree i prefer an open world where every erea is connected

I finished Brothership after 43 hours and enjoyed it quite a bit. I never really thought about how previous Mario and Luigi games structures were more loose until you brought it up in this video. I honestly do miss that in retrospect, but the endgame of brothership does have some really cool stuff but I won't spoil anything. Favorite part of the game is easily the presentation. I adored the visual style and animation throughout the entire adventure. For snoutlet, I like him! He was cool.

This game is so peak! It took me 85 hours to 100% the game. I also cried during the end. It was AMAZING!

How aboud my LEAST favourite aspect, the bosses, or their lack of. Withound spoilers, this game has not enough of them, like This game has less then 16 bosses and yet they range from amazing to forgeteble, previous games had tons of bosses, so seeing this game had very little of them is jarring and it is a problem because 3:50, this game is the second longest game yet it has the least amoud of bosses, you don't even fight a Wiggler LAME. Other problems come from spoilers so I won't type them here. But okay, Best aspect: Battle Plug's, they are very broken but also very fun. Snoutlet: he is fine, his meat puns are not neceserrly cringe but not that funny either, him NOT being a pig joke is unfunny after the second time they done it, but it dies pretty quicly, Snoutlet is a fine Guide character, not the best and not the worst.

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Now I kinda want a mario game with a rougher look, like from the concept art. They could even add more modern items, like a Luigi Burger instead of mushrooms for a healing item.

It's kind of a shame that he's doing Web3 crypto stuff now, I feel like that market is really bad.

SPOILER This scene with Bowser Jr. and Kamek was a sidequest... AND IT WAS STILL PEAK FOR WHERE IT GOES

Luigi burger?

As somebody who’s just gotten to the final boss of Brothership, it really is everything, and more, that I expected for the next Mario & Luigi game. Fun gameplay, charming writing, and a great respect for its predecessors. Kinda sucks that I can’t sing more praises, just because it would get into spoilers, but what I will say is that Luigi and Bowser Jr, two of my favorite Mario characters of all time, were both done wonderfully in this game.

Luigi Burger.

The hell’s up with LEVEL5 these days anyway?