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Totally stock :D.

@@teddyframhein actually ? Cause im in the market in buying one of this cars for 49k 😩

Yes. They changed the exhaust for 2016-2017, and this is a stock 2016. They also added a tube that pipes induction noise to the cabin. It's lovely, and a great car overall.

@@teddyframhein oh ok got cha . Yeah they are pricy tho

For what it's worth, compared to most other cars in this class, these are unlikely to depreciate much. You'd potentially be able to sell in a few years for not much less than you bought it.

Yup!

I can share some perspective but not a setup as I don't have it anymore. I tend to like a setup that allows me to trail the brake down to the apex (rotation on the way in), then power out confidently to the exit. If I remember correctly the GT4 CS is fairly edgy right out of the box... You can try reducing ride heights to improve overall grip to start, holding rake constant. Try softening the front sway bar to shift the balance of grip forward, or softening the rear to do the opposite. And of course, make sure to optimize tire pressures for the conditions, using the tire temperature/pressure HUD to assess during the lap. To be honest, I should probably go back and try this combo again. I'm sure there's more lap time to extract.

I'm an unapologetic proponent of PDK.

@@teddyframhein saaaame

Thanks! I feel very lucky to have so much variety in our garage/driveway.

At least I've given you two examples of T2 - the fast way, and the fun way :D

Thanks! Turns out this thing's a pretty good drift car... 500bhp, high redline, not as much traction as the 911.

For now... Thanks!

Enjoy it!

@@teddyframhein dont gotta tell me twice lol 1k miles in a week and a half 🤣

The front wheels are just a little wider, and have just a bit more aggressive offset, so they’re rubbing a little even with the stock tire width of 245mm. The car is in for a slight update to the alignment this week. I want enough clearance to eventually fit a 255 or 265 front tire.

@@teddyframheinstock ride height or lowered a touch?

@@aqu261 Lowered a touch, moreso in the front for a bit of added rake. It turned out the front wheels weren't centered in the wheel wells, so we used caster adjustment to pull them back a little. No more rubbing. I'm still interested in trying to squeeze in a 265...

That's a great question. For this particular course, I bet the ability of the mid-engined Cayman to rotate would be a benefit. It's also a little narrower. But then, the 911 would unquestionably have better traction which is especially important on a point-and-shoot course like this. For me, I prefer autocross courses that are more open than this, combining traditional autocross elements with some low-to-medium speed track-style sweepers (see some of my more recent videos). There too, I don't know if there's a clear cut answer. I'd probably give the edge to the Cayman myself as its 'edginess' at the limit translates to an ability to rotate in low-to-medium speed sections that I prefer over absolute stability. It's also probably the better drift car at these speeds :D. I've also autocrossed a 991.2 GT3 RS, and it felt... Similar. A little wider, noticeably better ability to put the power down, great rotation on a trail of the brake just like the Cayman.

I should add a compilation of all of our conversations :D.

I haven't messed with those settings at all, as far as I can remember. To be honest I didn't even know this was something that was so tunable... Now I'm interested!

Yeah... I feel very lucky. The Cayman is useful for 'serious business,' the SS when I just want to have some uncomplicated fun (plus it's a great road trip car).

At a high level: -3f/-2.5r camber, slightly lower ride height in front (optimizing for front-end grip), and front bar set to full soft, rear bar to medium (for now). I initially ran the rear bar at full stiff but the car was actually a little too pointy that way.

Thanks! Hoping for more when cooler weather returns... :D

You and me both, but it’s a good way to be black flagged!

Thank you! It's nice to have the option to disable stability control while leaving traction control enabled in a car this powerful, just for that extra safety net on exit... Especially in mixed/unknown conditions, to your point. TC does feel a little heavy handed at times, though, especially paired with tires like A052's which maintain grip even at some pretty extreme slip angles.

@@teddyframhein Right there with you! Removing just ESC is a very good option in that car. In my eyes it allows for a bit more rotation. Now, if we are at a track we have many laps at and there are good track conditions it all comes off. We haven’t put a set of A052s on our car, just Nankang CR-S V2 and oem SC2. I feel the car needs a little more section width in the front and there are very limited sizes in the Yokos.

Agreed on tires. I use A052's primarily for autocross and it turns out they're fine on track too; but I long for more 255/265 front tire options at the 20" wheel size. I have no intention of modifying to fit 19's. The CR-S V2 may be next on my list to try.

@@teddyframhein When available be sure to try out a set in 265/305 combo on oem wheels. They feel great!

You'll love it. I use RaceChrono Pro + GoPro for the most basic video output. Add to that a RaceBox Mini for GPS/accel and an OBD2 adapter for engine speed (among other things), and you'll be set.

I tend to :). I didn't end up where I should have this past weekend in PAX (only third) but I still had top time of day. The 4RS is a great car for autocross but I can't always fully utilize the power on tap.

Track limits on this particular version of Daytona are... Well, they're somewhere, but I didn't quite find them!

Thanks. I can confirm, it's tough: it takes time to train your ability to sense through your eyes, ears, hands, but generally in the absence of motion, in a sim. Think about what you can do to improve your ability to sense the limit, before worrying too much about pace. Can you use your eyes to detect rotation and chassis disturbances? Can you hear when the front or rear tires start to slide (pro tip: consider increasing the volume of the tires/chassis relative to everything else)? Are you able to pull meaningful feedback through your hands from the wheel (consider force feedback settings and hand placement)? Overall, how aware are you of your surroundings in the sim? Consider using the built-in skidpad to work on all of this without thinking at all about pace. Slide the car around, have fun! www.iracing.com/tracks/centripetal-circuit/

I had BR Racing help set a baseline. Without going into too much detail: slight drop overall, slightly more rake, as much negative camber in front as possible which is potentially limited by rear camber/toe. I started with the front bar at full soft and the rear at full stiff and have since softened the rear for additional traction (note the oversteer at the exit of T5 on this lap - not ideal).

@@teddyframhein Thanks! I am running a 981 GT4 but was just curious as to what the stock 4RS is capable of before getting into things like camber plates, wider tires, etc. I'm running -2.5 f / -2.0 r camber as a 50/50 street and track setup and front castor bushings to correct that issue. At my skill level, that is sufficient for now.

My goal is also the leave the car stock, it's pretty fantastic as-is. We managed -3 f / -2.4 r.

@@teddyframhein That's great. I think many "alignment shops" are not understanding how to adjust the castor using the existing 4RS bushing (which I had to install aftermarket into my std GT4). Anyway, cheers, your video is very informative for a novice driver trying to get better.

Absolutely, I've found sim driving/racing to be immensely valuable, and I think it's a must if you want to be properly competitive. My setup is relatively simple: Fanatec DD2 + Clubsport V3 Inverted pedals, Fanatec H-pattern shifter, plus an RSeat RS1 frame and a Valve Index VR headset*. *I just placed an order for a more expensive, more rigid frame from Advanced Sim Racing plus a triple monitor setup, and am looking forward to seeing the impact on my sim driving. VR is great but has limitations in terms of visual fidelity and field of view that do matter at the pointy end of the grid.

@@teddyframhein Thank you so much for this! I will be looking forward to getting a sim setup soon.

Yokohama Advan A052. Definitely more in it but in my defense this was my first track day in the car, and my only uninterrupted lap of the day - this thing is so quick that a typical advanced group doesn't give me the space I need.

@@teddyframhein I can only imagine! It did not look slow at all!

Absolutely, great idea. I'll do this when I have real-life comparisons that are closer to optimal.

I have an RSeat RS1, Fanatec DD2 + Clubsport v3 Inverted Pedals, and a Valve Index - but I'm eyeing a switch to a triple monitor setup for greater visual fidelity.

@@teddyframhein Triples are my dream, but I should try VR sometime. Have a oculus laying around, you think it’s worth? Play on a single monitor

Definitely at least give to a shot. Hopefully motion sickness isn’t an issue for you. If nothing else, it’s really cool to ‘sit inside’ the car, virtually.

I think a lot of it is the pavement. So far, there hasn’t been a scan for Sonoma’s 2024 repave. The Assetto Corsa video is on the old, 2003 pavement.

Yup, this is one aspect. Another is that I'm running different tires in reality (Yokohama Advan A052's) that are known to be very strong longitudinally. Another is that the fundamental balance of the car in the sim isn't quite there for me: to alleviate steady-state and on-throttle understeer I had to shift the balance via roll bars toward front end grip at the expense of the rear. Plus the diff doesn't hook up on throttle application quite as well. This combination of factors is more evident here at Sonoma than at Laguna Seca.

Close. Close enough that it's a useful training tool in fact, which was always the goal of sim racing for me. There are some differences in terms of balance that I hope the mod developers can sort out (see my other reply about this above).

You're right! To be fair, that lap was pre-repave. I expect to go faster still given the opportunity (clear track).

When you put it that way... Yeah, it's a lot!

It’s not a bad combo ;)

Damn, you’re right! Next time…

Me too. If not for my mistake IRL through the corkscrew the two laps would be essentially identical. Before the repave, Laguna Seca in reality was never as grippy as in the sim. Now it seems like they’re close.

Thank you! :D

I use the RaceChrono Pro app for basically all of my timing. It pairs with a GoPro for video, OBD2 adapter, and external GPS (RaceBox Mini). Great setup.