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Hello! I have a TD11KV and tried to split "Tom 1" cable to use two tom pads. But, in one of the pads, I only get signal/sound when hitting the rim area. I can select different sounds for the head and rim hits, but don´t know how to make both pads work in the head area. Can you help me with this, please??

Is it still floppy?

Probably already been asked a million times, but do they work with Roland edrums, ❤

Best explanation out there about this issue. On my Roland I was splitting my tom to use a splash with the rim, and it simply did not work. Now I know I should have split Tom 1 and 2. Thanks a lot for the great tips!

YES! 5:16 groove

I immediately dismissed this idea until you ran through some of those use cases. Great review Brady.

awesome video, I see you have 2 modules there...can you do a video on how to chain 2 modules together via midi?

Great introduction to the Buttkicker, I also made a video on it and found that playing with out it is tough. Enjoyed your review and education on it. Thanks

I had no idea one of my favorite drummers had a UA-cam channel, and I also had no idea such a product existed!! Thanks for the video!

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They don't make 16"... Sure wish they made them. I'll just order their 16" meshhead and a trigger from Ddrum.

Are you still using the unlock cymbals and if so, how have they been holding up?

Very nice review. I just recently bought my very first Lemon cymbals (Two Lemon LE-9C2 9" Dual Zone Splash Cymbals). I have them hooked up to an eDrumin 10 using Superior Drummer 3. (My kit originally started out as a Roland TD-17 KVX2.) While I can't vouch for how long they will last since I have only had them set up for about a week but so far, I have been pretty impressed! Hopefully this doesn't sound like a sales pitch, but I purchased the cymbals through e-Drumcenter, and didn't have to pay the crazy shipping costs nor wait a long time if bought through Alibaba. And as a bonus, I also got free shipping and a two-year warranty to boot! *RANT* Regarding the Roland clamps, I absolutely HATE having to disassemble portions of the rack just to add a clamp to hold a pad or cymbal. I really wish Roland would get their shit wired and quit making things difficult in order for them to save a buck and charge the customer more bucks and would have been nothing for them to use the type of clamp that Lemon included in the expansion kit you reviewed. I am glad to see more competition in the eDrum market. *END RANT*

Thank you for the review. I have the pro version. I still need to install it on my Porter & Davies seat. But the Porter & Davies seat has a metal plate and I cannot just drill the screws through the metal plate. So I will need to take the metal plate off to see where I can drill the holes. And the metal plate is directly screwed in to the wood of the seat and this is not designed to be taken of multiple times. How do I know? I needed to to take of the metal plate to install the hydraulic part of my Pearl D-1500RGL Roadster seat onto the Porter & Davies seat. And that’s why I also know that I cannot just drill holes into the metal plate. Furthermore I will need to use bolts, nuts and blue loctite instead of screws. As these are not included, I will,l need purchase them. So installing on a Porter & Davies seat is not so straightforward.

What a profoundly in depth and comprehensive review of the actual product. If anyone did any drum gear with this level of review they would be touching an audience who appreciate the instrument to its full potential and extent. Absolutely excellent video. Just bought one!

I think this hihat have a lot of range between close and open, i have to move my feet unnaturaly for have the aound of a real hihat

I just got one of these a few days ago, and the one I got appears to have some improvements. The center is now a much harder plastic or rubber (similar to Roland) than the floppy rubber yours appears to have, and the metal anti rotation stopper is also now basically the same size as the plastic ones that come with most e-cymbals. I had to use a Dremel and a sanding band to widen the top of it, though, because my hi hat clutch (Gibraltar 5707) wouldn’t fit all the way through. I also initially tried your hack to bypass the stopper issue, but the cymbal would still rotate no matter how tight I made it. But all seems well now, and I appreciate your review. Just an FYI for anyone else that might get one, and run into the same issue.

Are you still planning on buying the lemon tron t950 for review. You hit 1k.

Awesome! Do you know if these hihats will work with a VAD103 module? Cheers!

great review, liked..... do you still have the older versions of these cymbals? how was the durability of those items?

Thank you for these

swings a lot when hit

Thanks for the review. For the bass drum look at Rtom black hole bass drum mute and the bh single zone trigger.

This review is very well done and made me try the Lemon 15" crash/ride (using as a crash) and the 15" china. So props for the high-quality content that literally proves the value of influencers and reviewers such as yourself, both to the community and to these brands. My experience has been that both cymbals are usable, but there are very obvious quality differences between the Lemon and Roland variants. The Lemon crash is MUCH louder in the room and feels a bit like hitting a heavy plastic trash can lid. The feel of striking the edge hard is immediately evident on my arthritic joints than on the Rolands. It's a night and day difference, although one that younger hands may not even notice. While I returned the 15" crash/ride, I kept the china. It's 15.4" across, is shaped like a china cymbal, and because of the shape they added a lot more thicker rubber to the contact point. This made it quieter (although still louder than the Rolands) and reduces the impact feel significantly. It'll be interesting to see if if it holds up.

I just purchased & set this up last night. I'm in Canada where everything is really expensive because of currency exchange and shipping. My cost on the Buttkicker Pro was $587.00 CDN. including tax. No shipping as I picked it up. The vendor suggested saving about $100 on the Plus version instead of the Pro but I figured I'd get the version with the stronger amp to be safe with some more head room. There's no way I could justify spending about $2K on a P&D throne to get it here even though these days, I'm gigging only electronic. I'd love to try one but that's not going to happen. With my setup I'm using a Pearl Mimic Pro module. I routed my kick and 2 floor toms all to a single direct out. I did as @baorozzo mentioned and moved the shaker right up to the base of the seat. That made some difference in intensity for sure. Dialing it in, I turned the floor toms down in the direct out mixer as they were shaking the crap out of me (not literally). Your tip on switching to mono was golden by the way. Last night I kept turning it on playing, turning it off playing.... unbelievable difference in the experience. It does what I expected and the accuracy for me was great. My one question was on getting the crossover to work the way I envisioned it would. At one point I ran the snare drum through the same output and cranked the crossover way up. I couldn't get it to pick up. Not an issue though, just an experiment. I would also have preferred they used a finished end cable to connect the shaker to the amp like the P&D setup. I don't really like the 2 connection point solution they use on it. 2 gigs this weekend. Can't wait to run it through it's paces. As usual your reviews are exactly what everyone needs. No B.S. and full of great personal experience info. Please keep it up. thanks

Porter and Davies Once tried, you will never go back.

I have a dm10 and the cymbals are really bad. Half the time k hit them they don’t trigger or make a sound. I looked at these cymbals. Did you have any missing hits. Or do they trigger everytime. It has to be the most frustrating thing to not get the satisfaction of a smashed cymbal.

Probably ok for a studio/practice room, but I wouldn’t lug it around for gigging.

If not mentioned or asked yet, I’d be interested to know how it would work with a trigger attached to the kick drum as opposed to a microphone as the sound source. Great video. Thanks!

I use a $50 buttkicker just screwed under the wooder plate of my throne and an old subwoofer amp. It's not that fancy but works fine. The amp has a LPF available but since a use different outputs on my audio interface I separate the low frequencies in the DAW where the VST drumming happens.

We route the drummer IEM mix via a Matrix on the console with a low pass filter set at 100hz to the amp that drives the butt kicker. Our drummers love it.

I have both the throne thumper and the porter & davies. They are not really the same. They do the same function, but they give a really different feeling. While the TT can give you the feeling on your butt, the power it have and the way the P&D is made can make your head shake because the vibrations run through the spine. It’s like a more precise vibration. I felt I was going stupid when I pushed it a little harder than needed, because my brain was shaking. I partially reduced the gap between the TT and the P&D by mounting the TT shaker upside down and all the way up against the lower part of the throne seat. Basically I tried to augment the transmitted vibrations to the seat. I love my P&D but it’s really really expensive. I bought it used from the uk to save some money. The TT was expensive too; I bought it used too, it was a B-Stock. Way cheaper but the feeling is also way cheaper.

Seems like electronic drum application was not well thought out. Great video though!

How’s the ambient volume in the room? Does it rattle like crazy?

Dayton bst-1 with a nobsound amp is a nice cheaper alternative. I use 5 bst-1 with my sim racing rig haha.

Nice job, if i had the extra cash id get one of those butt kickers, but the one i made with the dayton puck suits my needs,for now,definitely makes playing more enjoyable, and i agree with you about when u turn it off , u miss that vibration

NOW IF ONLY WE COULD ATTACH IT TO THE BASS PLAYER'S PANTS WE COULD STAY IN TIME TOGETHER.

Well done abd thank you. 👏👏👏

Brother i love your content i'm one of your early subs, but as much I wanted to watch this, i had to keep skipping, this video is toooooo long for this products.

Thx for a great video. I just bought used e-drums and it has added pads and symbals, but don't quite understand this splitting thing. Now I do! Thanks dude!

Great review.. looks like u will be getting the lemon t 950 soon happy for you that u reached 1000 plus subs!! Congrats, and keep up the great work. I'm going to attempt to make a diy butt kicker, from a tactile transducer and a nobsound amp. Hoping it works, waiting on parts . Oh one question, are these pads serviceable by the user? Ei , can u change out the piezo if needed? Thanks again have a great day

Affordable alternatives to Yamaha TCS pads? Do you have a Yamaha module to try these with? Curious whether the rim triggers correspond to rimshot / head / crossstick the way their XP pads do. Roland and Alesis get all the 3rd-party attention, but I'd love to know how these smart pads perform within the Yamaha ecosystem, on a DTXPro module.

Why have larger pads when they are triggering devices.

Learn to play at p.

too much talk.

Subscribed… Thanks for a great review…

great review..think you covered all the pros_ cons.. the bass drum pedal is a bit clunky and the distance issue isnt ideal...id prob just use as a 4piece...having to buy cymbal pads too pushes the price up....its a good idea just needs tweeking i think......thanks for some reason i was thinking of the Rtom mesh pads..im sure they could add a trigger to their product pretty easily.

Ead10 is the best.

Can the rims be programmable?

Looks like an EAD10 module