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I think that searching for "2018 Mexican special edition Strat" would be the way to nail down the model quick. As you said, there's no other indicator as to the model on the guitar itself and so people will naturally use that in listings and searches, whether they themselves are trying to identify one or simply trying to sell it for the best possible price. Also, as soon as I saw the brass trem block my first thought was that it had been modified/upgraded so that would set my spidey senses tingling and searching out other stuff like pickups etc. If someone's doing that to an MX Strat then probably they're going to throw in a set of U.S.A pickups too. Nice that it's seemingly got a Pure Vintage set as well. Another thing, I think that marking on the sticker under the scratchplate is a 7 with a cross-bar, rather than an F Congrats, reckon you got a good deal here

I bought a 2012 MIM Standard upgraded much like yours. However, I think maybe done before Fender sold the loaded pickguard as a kit. Mine was essentially upgraded with a Fat 50s pickguard aged and trem block, bone nut and vintage tuners. But seller gave me all the genuine fender parts cardboard packaging and invoices from shops that did all the work including the bone nut and setup. I bought the guitar for less than the loaded pickguard and bone nut invoices . It also happens to be my “thoughtless” first grab guitar, over any American or otherwise guitars. It rules.

i looked up 2 sqiers this week on that fender page got no result. got results on both few years before they changed the page.Mn1997 squier and a gold 2001 affiniy

What companies are trying to make a guitar that sounds like a PRS? …. Zero

The only intelligent part of that rant is being skeptical of "anything" on you tube. That does not mean that all people are scamming you. However, there are enough to be wary.🤔

I wouldn't worry about it being a "fake" if there's no US serial on it.

I own 14 guitars. They're all priced between $500 to $1,500. Every one of them are excellent top notch guitars that feel like they're tailor made for me. I just can't see or justify paying anymore than $1,500 on a guitar. I don't think you're going to get any better quality for a guitar that's $2,000+ in my opinion.

Interesting journey! It seems with all the readily available upgrades for Fender's, it would be pretty hard to get the provenance for any of them. If it feels good and sounds good and is in the right price range for you? What the hey? 👍

If strings are lines drawn on a piece of cardboard, this is a fake guitar.

M04 barcode on body= 2004? Also, could be 7 not an F sticker in CNC hole. Very nice guitar.

Those tuners are better and I prefer those pickups. Basically you got an upgraded Standard model.

All sound nice but different. I’m not sure there is such a thing as cheap sounds and I had a course in acoustics when I was studying physics at the University. Guitarist have the craziest beliefs. You are the perfect person to help with my question: how do all 3 necks differ in size, cut and fret size? Thanks.

Hi Jayce, I don't currently play guitar. My question is, can a buyer check the serial number at a store or even if buying privately before completing the transaction?

It's a Mexican Standard. It was discontinued in 2018 and replaced by the Player, with a change in logo, the F neckplate, two screw tremolo and alnico pickups. If you got Pure Vintage pickups you got a good deal!

I still go for the sound of that american strat, its way different than mexico strat

You got a Hot Rod , why complain , all the hard work has been done ... Enjoy it ...

Once I bought an "Yngwie Malmsteen" pre-wired pickguard. The box was legit and fully wrapped in plastic, and the picture on the instructions matched the pickguard. I spent $389 on the pickguard and thought I was super special. I loved the sound of the pickups and the great wiring job. Fast forward to when Sam Ash closed, and they were selling a MIM Player for a ridiculous $550. Normally it was $889, so I jumped on it. Plus, I happened to have a ton of parts for upgrades on hand. Anyway, I liked the Malmsteen pickguard and was going to toss the MIM pickguard and all the parts on it. So, I took it off to do so... The stock pickguard on the MIM was exactly the same as my $389 "Malmsteen" pickups, electronics, pots, everything. I'm talking the same part numbers, even the same handwriting on the pickups. What are the chances? It looked like literally the same guy did both pickguards. Even the SKU on the pickguard was the same. My $389 "Malmsteen" pre-wired pickguard upgrade was nothing but a standard stock pickguard they throw in a standard MIM Player... Wow, did I munch a sandwich of marketing bullshit on that one. But I had to admit, I loved the pickups and the way they sounded when I thought they were expensive. Totally caught myself being a price dick. In reality, I love the MIM standard pickups. Who'd have known? Funny thing, if you buy the next guitar up, the base "American Pro," I kid you not, it's actually got worse parts for twice the cash, haha. Marketing bullshit. Oh well... admitted.. I was fooled.

That Fender logo looks like a '70's reissue. An unmarked neck plate is not good, brass tremolo block is not a standard feature either. If you take the neck off, there might be some markings or indications.

Best time to burn in those neural pathways is when you're a kid. Kids that I know don't typically have a lot of extra cash... So no, don't save up for something twice the cost. Get started with what you can afford now while you're interested. I have cheap and not so cheap guitars but I like this flood of inexpensive guitars and equipment! 👍

That American strat has more resale value than the mim strat

1:01 Generally in these matters people only think matter, material, physical things. However, when you buy online at a music store website, over a certain price point the guitar you bouy is set up (and gets more quality control).This makes a (huge) difference for the playability of the guitar you get. This guitar is from a store. So over that certain price point and in that store immaterial things were added to the guitar; attention and labor. During the pandemic I bought some budget guitars. You copuld [lay them but not finesse stuf, action too high, (acoustic) nut and bridge clearly need (precision) work. After that i bought a higher priced guitar online and one in a store. both came set up and are a delight to play. Countless youtube channels are actually about, or better exist because of this unpredictability of the playability of guitars bought online, ignoring what is decisive in that. Most buyers can't set up, let alone adjust the nut and the bridge, so they have to do with what comes out of the box. They think it's the brand or the model, the wood and the hardware. It's the labor. and the amount of labor and human attention also determines the consistency of the specimens in a production batch or the batches compared to each other. Labor also is the most costly part, certainly in QC. Guess what happens when demand a good piece of wood, good PUs, locking tuners, d'Addario strings, but tells the guy in the factory to put it together and string it in four minutes, then put it in the box immediately, no second pair of eyes to check the quality, no second pair of hands to check the action... Since this Fender came from a store you can't compare it to the online alternatives.

Pacificas come in series 0/100s up to 600, rising in prices to far over $1000. This is the most basic Pacifica, 012. Generally beginners start with one from the 100s series, like 112, that have good reputation, for over 30 years already. So its hard to call this 'a Pacifica' as if this is what you get buying a Pacifica..

They all sounded great. It's a beautiful Mexican Stratocaster, but no, it really didn't stand out to me. The Firefly and Squier Debut definitely hold their own.

The necks are not 'unfinished'.... If that were the case, they'd soak up humidity like a sponge and warp.... All guitar necks have a finish... The Pacifica (... I have one...) is finished in a light 'silk' lacquer... My Squier 'Custom' Tele neck is likewise finished. There is nothing to really choose between any guitars of the sub $250 price point... They're all made of poplar, lime or boxwood... Basic maple or nato necks, And the cheapest hardware available. My Pacifica is a tad better appointed as it was the 'Variax' Standard model, so was well finished. .... With the same truss-rod PLUG, but with modern die-cast enclosed machine heads .... Those chrome covered jobs are the epitome of 'cheap-n-nasty'....

It was fairly easy to pick out the Fender. The chime and the clarity was easily the best among the lot. I have them in this order if I have to rank them: 1. Fender 2. Firefly 3. Tease 4. Squier Debut For the money if stock then Firefly all day long. I believe you mentioned you paid around $650 for the Fender used, and for that money, it would be Fender. The quality on the Fender, in my experience, while not perfect, it is consistently much higher than what people mention on the internet boards, and I'd gladly pay the extra $300 for the better QA, electronics, pickups and just overall ease of modification down the line.

For chording, I know I didn’t choose the Debut as the Fender… I believe I had the Firefly as the Fender. I did get the MIM as the Fender when you did the bridge solo notes but I think I also picked the Tease one also as the Fender which was not correct. The bottom line is I think you proved it’s a close call and without top line Fender pickups I think it’s hard to actually pick out a Fender from non-Fender. Frankly I’m not sure most would be able to pick out Fenders from non-Fenders

3:90 - *V I B R A T O A RM!!!* FFS !

I think your price comparison is a little off. You got ripped off if you paid over $600 for that. They charged you like it was a MIM Players Series model but that’s really just a MIM Standard (2008-2018). You’re comparing two different models if you’re looking at specs & prices for MIM Players Series instead of MIM Standard Series. A new Players Series Strat might sell for $700+ new but a MIM Standards like that didn’t. MIM Standards sold for under $600 back when they were new & I only paid about $450 for mine back when it was brand new around 2013.

What do you mean by unfinished neck? I have a Pacifica and the neck has been (I'm guessing) lacquered (I would have said its some kind of Poly finish). Is that one bare wood?

I have absolutely zero musical talent. If I tried playing a guitar, dogs would howl in agony and run away. My singing voice is soo bad I can curdle an entire herd of cows from across the street. Vogons from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reading poetry sound better than me,... waaaayyy better.

I like inexpensive guitars, but at the same time, since when is two or even three thousand dollars a lot of money? And for an instrument that wil bring you a lifetime of joy. Since when? Three thousand dollars ain't shit. That's how I see it. I mean if you can save a hundred dollars, you can save a thousand. But at the same time, i still agree that you don't have to spend a lot to get a good guitar. My next guitar is going to be a Yamaha FG800. Not because it's cheap, because it's good! Just like a US made Fender is good. And yes, part of what you pay for is the logo, a Logo that earned its reputation. I don't see anything wrong either way you go. Expensive or inexpensive. As long as I can get my money back, I'll buy a cheap guitar with a quickness, why not?

I think I am just going to get a cheap Jackson or Dean or Ibanez, do the neck and fretwork to set up the guitar properly, then upgrade the parts. I think I will have less money in the guitar that way and will still have a great guitar. I have a couple decent guitars but I'd like more, but I'd like to work on them.

Mexicans are known for playing guitar. I imagine their guitars would be good quality.

Thanks for sharing! Both before and after mods made workable noises. If anything I am more surprised the stock sounded actually fine, may be a smidge thin, but not the end of the world! Apparently the tonal changes hinge more on the pot values and the capacitor, and the tone bleed. I too am doing mods and those are the areas I am focusing on.

There are well made, inexpensive guitars and then there are cheap and cheaply made guitars (Glarry for one) that really aren't worth wasting a hundred bucks on. Beware of anything you can buy for less than $200.00 bucks.

I bought a new Fender strat and it didn't have a personality, I couldn't bond with it, it was boring, I play Squier affinity now. I sold the Fender. ♥️🎸.

Quality of Squire guitars has gotten pretty good over the past years. I played an out of the box 50s classic vibe strat and was pretty impressed.

A good guitar is finished and polished and set up with more attention than a shitty one, that's the main difference. you can buy a Pacifica or Squire and spend time making it play very well if you know what you are doing. A custom shop guitar is always way better because experts spend hours making it play well. I built a Stu Mac strat and it sucks because I don't know what I'm doing but I have a Squire Strat that plays very well I got for free.

I bought an ESP EC256 made in Indonesia for $700 AUD. Great guitar, no issues with the neck or hardware. Tuners not premium, but rock solid tuning stability notheless. Wanting a more premium guitar, so bought a Fender Vintera Telecaster Deluxe on special for $1400 AUD. The neck has multiple issues: sharp fret ends, lacquer over the nut and all fret ends, hump on the neck as well. The guiitar also shipped with some lose neck screws so neck kept shifting. Man, I miss my "cheap" ESP.

IMA buy a Squire Debut Strat, soon 🎉😮🎸 Do you know Sean's channel, Scar My Guitar?

How would you rate the dst-400 against the squire Affinity? The reason I ask is that you can find the Affinity cheaper than the Donner on their website and it seems like the affinity might be a better buy.

The pacifica does sound sweeter in fairness though imho

I bought a donnar 152B And it is an exelent guitar the whole package is worth the £182 . check it out !!!

if you got talent you dont need a name brand guitar or cts pots ,floyd rose, seymour ducans ,etc,etc... adapt and overcome,improvise .. thats what musicians do .

Intonation is out.

My brother has a Chinese made squire. His guitar sux. I have a Mexican made fender that is a quality built guitar. No comparison.

The Pacifica sounds a lot better than the Debut. If you consider the setup, the better pickups, better strings etc. out of the box, it's probably worth at least a hundred dollars more. It seems like around $500 is the sweet spot for a decent guitar, and after that it's diminishing returns that only experts will really appreciate, with aesthetics being a large part of it. After a few thousand dollars you're getting into collector value and extravagant customs.

I don't mean to sound elitist, but... as a former MIM Strat owner (sold out of necessity, not the guitar), it still isn't close to being on the level of an American made Strat. It's just a fact. Having said that, MIM Strats are a hot-rodder's dream because if you swap out the electronics, and the bridge you can have a versatile, virtual shred machine! At that point you're getting to USA Strat prices though, so...

Looks ugly with the poly fret board.

Oh I forgot an expensive guitar will still sound sucky in the wrong hands, I know by experience.