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My misguided search for a BUDGET sleeping pad
I discuss the steps (and missteps) I made trying to save a few bucks on a sleeping pad for backpacking. I made numerous purchases that I later regretted until I finally found the right solution. The pads I discuss in this video are the infamous Walmart blue foam mat, a military surplus self inflating pad, the Outdoorsman Lab sleeping pad, the Klymit Static-V Lite Insulated, and the REI Helix.
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Trip Debrief - ANF Backpacking - NCT to Tracy Run
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In this video I provide information on my recent backpacking trip in the Allegheny National Forest to Tracy Run. This is a companion video to the video I made for this trip. I explain the route we took and I talk about other information that may be helpful to others if they wish to replicate the hike. The map that I use in this video may be downloaded using this link: www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/F...
How to Make an End Cap for Sawyer Water Filters
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I show you how to make your own end cap for a Sawyer water filter. This cap will keep excess water from leaking out after filtering water.
Allegheny National Forest Backpacking - NCT to Tracy Run
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My wife and I go backpacking in the Allegheny National Forest in Pennsylvania. We hike a small section of the North Country Trail and camp near Tracy Run next to the Allegheny Reservoir. We take a day hike and check out some other campsites in the area.
2024 Red River Gorge YouTube Backpackers Meetup
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I travel to the Red River Gorge in Kentucky to join a UA-cam Meetup. Backpacking and Outdoor UA-camrs from all over the mid-west gathered at Hanson's point for what turned out to be a great weekend. I made some new friends and had a great time! Backpacking Camping Hiking
Trip Debrief - Spruce Knob to Seneca Creek. Trail Guide & Info
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This video contains information about backpacking Spruce Knob to Seneca Creek in West Virginia. The route utilizes the Huckleberry Trail, Lumberjack Trail, High Meadows Trail, Horton Trail and the Seneca Creek Trail. The video is a "debrief" of our backpacking trip video which can be found on my channel. As mentioned, I highly recommend this website for those interested in hiking this route: in...
Backpacking in WV - Spruce Knob to Seneca Creek
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My wife and I backpack the beautiful Seneca Creek Backcountry. We start off at Spruce Knob, the highest point in West Virginia. From there we hike the Huckleberry Trail, the Lumberjack Trail, the High Meadows Trail, the Horton Trail, and the Seneca Creek Trail. We camp two nights next to Seneca Creek which has epic waterfalls including Seneca Falls. We also visit the site of a 1970's plan crash.
Mohican State Park's Park & Pack Camping - Tips & Info
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This video is the "debrief" for my backpacking trip to Mohican State Park in Ohio. I give information and tips for the park's Park and Pack Campsites. I explain the rules for using the sites, how to self register, and I give information on the trails. Here is the link for the website where you can download the ODNR's current trail map for Mohican: ohiodnr.gov/go-and-do/plan-a-visit/find-a-prope...
Naturehike Cloud-Up 2 Review
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A review of my budget backpacking tent, the Naturehike Cloud-Up 2. This is a preliminary review based on using it for a handful of nights on a couple of outings. For more in-depth reviews, I recommend checking out the UA-cam channel called "Summit or Nothing" - www.youtube.com/@SummitOrNothing
Mohican State Park Overnight Backpacking Trip
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I take a trip to Mohican State Park in Ohio and camp overnight at Park and Pack site number 4. I hike the red trail and see first hand the damage caused by the 2022 tornado.
Budget GPS Navigation using GPS Waypoints Navigator
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In this video I demonstrate the Android smartphone app that I use for GPS navigation when backpacking. The app is called GPS Waypoints Navigator. I consider this a budget minded solution because there are no monthly or yearly subscriptions to use this app. There is just a one time fee to purchase the full version.
Hocking Hills State Park - New Year's Get-Away
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My wife and I visit Hocking Hill's State Park with some friends for New Year's Eve 2023 - 2024. We rented a cabin called the Dakota Cabin and we visit Ash Cave and Old Man's Cave.
Zaleski Backpacking Trip Debrief
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In this video I discuss the background of my backpacking trip to Zaleski State Forest. I talk about how my trip went and how it concluded after I decided to cut it short due to the weather. I use the trail map to show the details of my trip. Be sure to check out my trip video to Zaleski as well.
Zaleski State Forest - Backpacking in the Heat!
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Backpacking at Zaleski State Forest in Ohio during August. I had to cut the trip short due to super high temperatures and humidity. Plus an unexpected line of thunderstorms made the trip even more challenging.
James Peak Wilderness - Trip Debrief. Trail and Campsite Info for backpackers
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James Peak Wilderness - Trip Debrief. Trail and Campsite Info for backpackers
James Peak Wilderness - Backpacking
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James Peak Wilderness - Backpacking
West Woods Debrief. What you need to know to go Camping at the West Woods.
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West Woods Debrief. What you need to know to go Camping at the West Woods.
The West Woods - Camping Trip. Geauga Park District
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The West Woods - Camping Trip. Geauga Park District
Teton Sports Explorer 4000 & Scout 3400 - Budget Backpack Review
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Teton Sports Explorer 4000 & Scout 3400 - Budget Backpack Review
My thoughts on backpacking in your 50's while on a Day Hike
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My thoughts on backpacking in your 50's while on a Day Hike
6 Super Budget Friendly Backpacking Gear Items
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6 Super Budget Friendly Backpacking Gear Items
Burr Oak Debrief Video - Info on Park and Hiking
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Burr Oak Debrief Video - Info on Park and Hiking
Burr Oak State Park - Camping and Hiking
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Burr Oak State Park - Camping and Hiking
Minister Creek Backpacking Trip DEBRIEF
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Minister Creek Backpacking Trip DEBRIEF
Minister Creek Hiking Trail Backpacking - Allegheny National Forest
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Minister Creek Hiking Trail Backpacking - Allegheny National Forest
Two Half Hitches & Taught Line Hitch
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Two Half Hitches & Taught Line Hitch
Square Knot and Fusing Rope
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Square Knot and Fusing Rope
Clove Hitch
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Clove Hitch
Personal Time Outdoors Channel Trailer
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Personal Time Outdoors Channel Trailer
Chickagami Park - Parkman OH Camping
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Chickagami Park - Parkman OH Camping

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @devlinj86
    @devlinj86 2 години тому

    Nice video. Very informative. I think I have gone through the exact same type of mats as you have in the order you explained them.

  • @willsmith7475
    @willsmith7475 7 годин тому

    thanks for sharing your learning on all these sleep mats, hope you get many comfortable nights ahead

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 7 годин тому

      Seems like I have it figured out now. 😄 Thanks so much for watching the video!

  • @redacted2763
    @redacted2763 День тому

    Klymit is a brand that cannot go away fast enough. I was fooled into buying one of their lies when they first came out. Lesson learned.

  • @andyloucks
    @andyloucks День тому

    I've done this and continue to do this too, there's no shame in it at all.

  • @jaybakata5566
    @jaybakata5566 День тому

    Buy once cry once works if you know what you're getting. Problem is you don't know until you use it if it is good for you, or it is what you were looking for.

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors День тому

      That is one good thing about buying from REI. They have a really accommodating return policy. If you try something and it isn't working for you it can be returned no questions asked for up to a year if you're a member .

  • @allenwurl6245
    @allenwurl6245 3 дні тому

    As a large side sleeper, I have only ever been happy with the standard air mattress. I really would like to find a more durable and packable option (I have had to patch an air mattress straight out of the box and had to break out the duct tape to get through the rest of a night 🤦🏻‍♂️) All that and it was still better than my gigantic $100+ self inflating mattress that packed up larger than my tent 🤷🏻‍♂️. I understand that comfort isn’t always an option but people have woken up with permanent injuries after ignoring what their body was telling them. I have often wondered if any of the mat makers have considered contoured mats built specifically for the 200lb + side sleeper crowd.

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 2 дні тому

      Thermarest has a new pad out, I think it's called the neoloft or something like that. It's pretty thick and still packs down reasonably small. I wonder if that might be an option. I'm sure it's pricey though....

  • @oakrdgang
    @oakrdgang 3 дні тому

    So going cheap you ended up spending way more than if you just purchased a high quality high r-value pad the first time . Buy once cray once quality is remembered long after price is forgotten

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 3 дні тому

      Right, I tried to save a buck and it ended up costing me more in the end. Certain gear items you can go budget but a sleeping pad isn't one of them. Unless you only camp in the middle of summer.

  • @englishe1
    @englishe1 3 дні тому

    My first inflatable pad was an Exped DownMat9. Heavy, bulky, $$$$$, r-8, totally worth it, like sleeping on a cloud.

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 3 дні тому

      Nice! It is actually kind of amazing how well these modern pads work. The technology that they've developed to insulate is something else...

  • @franknewhall8941
    @franknewhall8941 4 дні тому

    Very amusing video that I can relate to lol. I have painful memories of car camping with the closed foam. Tried the self inflating for first backpacking trip, was doable, but left much to be desired. Settled for the budget Paria Recharge. Didn’t take as many steps as you but, the Helix is a good one.

  • @daveeardley5386
    @daveeardley5386 4 дні тому

    I know the missteps very well.I now strap a cheap folding pad strapped under my exos48 bag.Also gives extra protection of piercing my inflatable pad,so far so good.

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 4 дні тому

      That's one fear I always have in the back of my mind.. something putting a hole in it. I take the included patch kit and a little tenacious tape with me. Hopefully one of those would bail me out if it happened.

  • @praetoria_
    @praetoria_ 5 днів тому

    Definitely a buy once cry once type of thing.

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 5 днів тому

      Yes, I have to agree. Especially if you will be camping in colder weather.

  • @jim-bob-outdoors
    @jim-bob-outdoors 5 днів тому

    I am a big fan of doing it on the cheap. Sadly the one thing you cant avoid is a decent mat if camping in colder weather. I went with the Nemo Tensor. Great mat and small pack size.

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 5 днів тому

      @@jim-bob-outdoors Yes, it is striking the difference the right mat makes.

  • @garycase1790
    @garycase1790 5 днів тому

    Young

  • @jksurvivalbushcraft
    @jksurvivalbushcraft 5 днів тому

    Good job breaking down the journey to one of the most important parts of camping!!!

  • @Lichtdrache-yo9dz
    @Lichtdrache-yo9dz 5 днів тому

    i got the termarest 7.3 never buy a noder pad. thx Bro. Greetings from Swizerland.

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 5 днів тому

      I've heard that's the warmest pad out there but it's pricey. I bet in Switzerland you have some pretty cold temps at times though so it's probably worth it.

  • @MikeNeri1
    @MikeNeri1 5 днів тому

    Everything's a trade off. I use an inflatable with a yoga matt. 😆

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 5 днів тому

      The yoga mat probably rolls up a little smaller than my blue foam pad. Doubling things up definitely works if you are ok with carrying it

  • @remyllebeau77
    @remyllebeau77 5 днів тому

    Wait until you see the prices for Hammock under and over quilts.

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 5 днів тому

      I'm sure. Any kind of down quilt that's decent will cost you. I've just never been interested in hammock camping for some reason. Maybe it's "old dog, new tricks" syndrome 😄

    • @remyllebeau77
      @remyllebeau77 5 днів тому

      @@personaltimeoutdoors It has it's own set of pros and cons to be sure. And a learning curve.

  • @fpruim
    @fpruim 23 дні тому

    Thanks, nice review! 😊

  • @OthmarsVlog
    @OthmarsVlog Місяць тому

    fantastic, thumbs up 👍🍀✨

  • @OutdoorOperator
    @OutdoorOperator Місяць тому

    Nice loop. Always enjoy the ANF!

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors Місяць тому

      Yes the ANF is very underrated. It really has a lot to offer.

  • @BackpackingWithJason
    @BackpackingWithJason Місяць тому

    I’m glad you made it out. It sure was a fun weekend. You got some great shots of Hanson’s Point

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors Місяць тому

      Thanks! I will say that no photo or video I've ever seen does Hanson's Point justice. You have to see it in person to really get the full understanding of just how awesome it is.

    • @BackpackingWithJason
      @BackpackingWithJason Місяць тому

      @ I agree 100 percent

  • @WoodAllTrails
    @WoodAllTrails Місяць тому

    It was great meeting you friend!!! Good video showing how we all barely knew eachother but came back home with another family!!!

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors Місяць тому

      I agree and I think it will be interesting at the next one since people know each other a little better now.

  • @CarlsonAdventures
    @CarlsonAdventures Місяць тому

    Hey Fred! Glad you made the trip down. It was great meeting you!

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors Місяць тому

      Thanks! I had a blast and really enjoyed meeting all of you as well.

  • @genglandoh
    @genglandoh Місяць тому

    Thank you for a very good review. I am 68 and getting back into winter backpacking. I will start hiking about 5 miles per day with a pack weight of 30 lbs (including food and water). As I go I will slowly increase the distance of my hikes.

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors Місяць тому

      That's fantastic! Hope you enjoy it and thanks for watching the video.

  • @NickEverts-o5w
    @NickEverts-o5w 2 місяці тому

    It was great meeting you as well. We didnt know anyone either but it was definitely worth the trip

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 2 місяці тому

      Absolutely! I especially liked hearing the tips and suggestions people had about different trails and backpacking locations.

  • @Stonedbarrington
    @Stonedbarrington 2 місяці тому

    The ohio state updates were great.

  • @davidanness6180
    @davidanness6180 2 місяці тому

    Brilliant tent for one person with bags. Can be put up inner or outer first if using footprint. The green 20D cost in UK between £135 to £155

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 2 місяці тому

      I haven't tried putting the outer up first yet. I can see that it would be fairly simple to do though.

    • @davidanness6180
      @davidanness6180 2 місяці тому

      @@personaltimeoutdoors In June I had 2 weeks cycle camping in France. The fly was wet every morning so took inner down first and put in pod bag just take a little longer

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 2 місяці тому

      Nice, sounds like a great trip!

    • @davidanness6180
      @davidanness6180 2 місяці тому

      It was a good trip. My cycling buddy tried my tent and bought the same he's ​over 6ft tall. 3 mods we did. 1/ put 4 inch bungies on footprint and inner tent 2/ "Use the cords you take off on the zips 3/ bought longer pegs of same design as a lot of our campsites are soft grass. A few extra grams isn't a problem on a bike. @@personaltimeoutdoors

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 2 місяці тому

      @@davidanness6180 I was trying to think of something to replace the fabric zipper pulls with. They just don't work that well. Do using the cords make them work more smoothly?

  • @brianwinburn1561
    @brianwinburn1561 2 місяці тому

    Enjoyed hanging out with you Fred!

  • @MaryWondolowski
    @MaryWondolowski 2 місяці тому

    No veggies?? 🤭

  • @stonedapeadventures
    @stonedapeadventures 2 місяці тому

    wooly aphids where the dancing bugs, some folks call them tree lice

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 2 місяці тому

      Ahhh..thanks for letting me know. They were interesting to watch to say the least.

  • @stonedapeadventures
    @stonedapeadventures 2 місяці тому

    johny cake is one of my favorites camping spots in the ANF

  • @stonedapeadventures
    @stonedapeadventures 2 місяці тому

    was great to meet you!!! such a great weekend. I had to break out of my comfort zone, I've never camped with folks i don't know either. I'm so glad I did.

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 2 місяці тому

      Great to meet you too! I'm glad I talked myself into going as well.

  • @JourneyontheTrail
    @JourneyontheTrail 2 місяці тому

    I agree about being able to reserve…it is about a 2.5hr drive for me and besides the Buckeye Trail there would not a lot of other options if there were no sites open. I’ve also heard a lot of stories about people still showing up to your site even if you did book for that very reason. However, I still really want to see it in person and will just have to take the chance one of these days. Thanks for sharing!!

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 2 місяці тому

      Just about everyone I ask says that would happily pay a fee to reserve a site. Wish they would consider it. Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @JourneyontheTrail
    @JourneyontheTrail 2 місяці тому

    Great information especially for a video format. Mohican is one of the few in Ohio I haven’t made it to yet. Just subbed…thanks for sharing!

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the sub! Mohican is really nice, worth the trip but avoid the weekends if you want to try for a park and pack site. It's also a great place to day hike.

    • @JourneyontheTrail
      @JourneyontheTrail 2 місяці тому

      @@personaltimeoutdoors actually ended up going yesterday and had a great backpacking trip there with my daughter. Pretty much had our pick of any site but when I looked at the check in sheet I definitely saw what you’re saying about weekends being busy. Your video was very helpful in planning the trip. Thanks again!

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 2 місяці тому

      @@JourneyontheTrail That's awesome! Glad you guys had a good time.

  • @JV-ko6ov
    @JV-ko6ov 2 місяці тому

    Explorer is kinda heavy. I replaced mine with a Decathalon that weighs a kg less and is cheaper. The teton can take a beating though, I used it for years and dropped it down giant cliffs

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 2 місяці тому

      You're right, nobody is ever going to mistake these for ultralight packs. They are definitely on the heavy side.

  • @supafly136
    @supafly136 3 місяці тому

    superb video!

  • @OutdoorOperator
    @OutdoorOperator 5 місяців тому

    Great video! I just got back from this area about a week ago so maybe about a week after you were there? Water levels were very low for June. Looks like you backpack a lot of the same areas I go to. I can confirm that you can park at the Seneca Creek trailhead. Looking forward to watching more of your content!

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 5 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching! I'll be checking out some of your videos. Looks like you've been to a few places I don't know much about.

    • @OutdoorOperator
      @OutdoorOperator 5 місяців тому

      @@personaltimeoutdoors I like mixing in some lesser known areas. The more popular areas I like to hit during the week like you did in this video.

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 5 місяців тому

      @@OutdoorOperator I understand that. Nothing worse than struggling to find a campsite during a crowded weekend.

  • @simplelife6827
    @simplelife6827 5 місяців тому

    Good review, keep them coming.

  • @kurtgutwein839
    @kurtgutwein839 5 місяців тому

    You had the entire forest to yourselves. Very Nice!

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 5 місяців тому

      For the most part. Going during the week has it's advantages. On the first day we only saw 4 people the whole day. On day 2 we saw maybe 5 or 6. The day we were hiking out was a Friday and we started seeing more people on their way in. I definitely believe that area gets more crowded on the weekends.

  • @LivingTheGrandAdventure
    @LivingTheGrandAdventure 6 місяців тому

    Nice video.

  • @cgriggsiv
    @cgriggsiv 6 місяців тому

    Nice to see that you too are out and about on the trails relaxing thank you again for the nice video always glad to see them Now if you excuse me I'm going to go and finish watching then I have to hit the bed 3:30 comes fast That's 3:30 a.m.

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 6 місяців тому

      Thanks so much for watching, I appreciate your comments! That 3:30 doesn't sound too fun.

  • @cgriggsiv
    @cgriggsiv 6 місяців тому

    First 🥇

  • @melaniegarden3416
    @melaniegarden3416 6 місяців тому

    Very useful thanks.

  • @Jason-ke2nj
    @Jason-ke2nj 6 місяців тому

    Here in the UK..we have loads of options. American gear tends to be over priced and under performance..

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 6 місяців тому

      Ok, thanks for commenting about that. The cottage company gear made in the US is definitely pricey. Was my guess that the naturehike tents are popular in the UK correct? I'm only basing that on what I've seen on UA-cam which is admittedly a small sample size.

    • @reeseprince8
      @reeseprince8 7 днів тому

      Like what exactly I'm in the market 😊

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 5 днів тому

      I'd recommend checking out summit or nothing on YT. He reviews a bunch of different tents and he's in the UK.

  • @dalmacapn
    @dalmacapn 6 місяців тому

    Not sure $130 is very "budget"

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 6 місяців тому

      If you look at the weight vs the price then I think it is a good price for a free standing tent. Yes, there are many tents that cost less but they will come at a weight penalty. Even with this tent, you can get the polyester version for $90 or less but it is a pound heavier.

  • @ltanderson7916
    @ltanderson7916 6 місяців тому

    Probably will never make it there, but your information regarding camping in the park was very well done.

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 6 місяців тому

      Thanks, I appreciate you watching!

    • @zombiehunter0000
      @zombiehunter0000 6 місяців тому

      How do they do these utube rondavues when it says max 6 per site .how bad is it when digging cat holes as far as digging up you know .thanks .

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 6 місяців тому

      I've never been to one of those YT meetups but I'm guessing they are just kind of ignoring that rule. Each site has a sign with a "moon" symbol on it that is supposed to designate the cat hole area. Apart from the sign, the area isn't really defined. To be honest, I had the same thought as you and was afraid to go digging in that area, lol. I only had to dig one and I just wandered deep off the trail instead. The moon sign by site 4 was right next to a really steep drop off anyway. I don't see how it would be a good idea to climb down there to dig a cat hole.

  • @zombiehunter0000
    @zombiehunter0000 6 місяців тому

    Looks like ohio lumberd it out .i think they are going to drill in it next year so they will close it again.

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 6 місяців тому

      They did remove a lot of the fallen trees to keep it from becoming a forest fire hazard.

  • @ltanderson7916
    @ltanderson7916 7 місяців тому

    Good initial review. looking forward to your final review

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 7 місяців тому

      Thanks, I will post an update after I feel like I've had enough nights in it.

  • @jackrussell108
    @jackrussell108 7 місяців тому

    How much is it…?

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 7 місяців тому

      The 20D version I have is usually around $130 on Amazon. Often times you can save $15 to $20 if you order through Ali Express. The polyester version is cheaper so you just have to read carefully to make sure you are buying the version you want.

  • @cgriggsiv
    @cgriggsiv 7 місяців тому

    Young man you know you have to drive an hour to have to get down there it's not a waste of time You still have the buckeye trail down that way You can still do a loop and camp out for one to two nights A lot of people forget about the buckeye trail down that way

    • @personaltimeoutdoors
      @personaltimeoutdoors 7 місяців тому

      Guilty as charged. I would have never thought about the buckeye trail. I always thought it was more around the perimeter of Ohio.