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omg this video is a gold mine

Biggest problem with these types of games are the inconsistency of these animations. I get way too into the game, where I'll try to fight like my life was actually in danger and apply real life logic to the situation. Not good in a video game I'm well aware, but it becomes a big problem when I'm fighting someone close to a wall. Let's say it's on my left, and I use a long sword. I know I can't use swing attacks from the left side, because my weapon will colide with the wall and it does everytime! So I'm focused on my own weapon and that of the enemy due to my "hyper submersion", but for some retarded reason the enemy I'm fighting has a poleaxe, an even longer weapon and they seem to be able to swing, riposte and chamber through solid objects. So even if I expect them to do some unrealistic bullshit and moving their body in unatural ways. I still can't counter the axehead going through a wall or a beam, or the worst one when they make underhanded attacks, through the ground. Because when I swing my weapon too close to such an object my attack gets interrupted, but theirs don't and that makes me mad, how is it fair that some weapons can just ignore these rules in certain situations and others can't? Furthermore if I get close to the enemy, he has a long polearm, so his swings should hit me with just the handle and not do full damage, yet I still take the full damage. He should not want me to get close to him, because he has a polearm, but here I am being punished for not knowing these immersion breaking "tricks" and for thinking he can't hit me through solid objects, because I can't hit him through them and that's on top of the already unrealistic movements he's using. Oh the enemy is using a maul? And his either slowing down his attack or feinting them? Slowing down your swing shouldn't give 100% of the damage because you're not hitting as hard, and feinting a right side attack only to then instantly teleport your arms into a now leftsided attack shouldn't even be possible with such a heavy weapon. The weapons should function realistically. A maul should therefore be a high risk, high reward kinda weapon where if you tried all manner of bullshit with it, you should get punished for it. If you're using a polearm, then you better keep the enemy at a distance because your weapon can only do it's full damage there. They already have the whole sharp weapons do less damage to armor thing going, so why did they stop the realism there!? This is just like when you play shooters, where you think you're in cower, but serverside you're still visible. Still bullshit yes, but this is worse! Here you're fighting up close an personal and your opponent suddenly twists his whole body around in an unatural way and somehow hits you through a wall while his back is turned! You'd rightfully think the guy was hacking if something like that happened in a shooter. Animation abuse should never EVER be a thing in a medieval melee game!

I have this glitch where they swing back

I like the part where he dueled people

i wish this game didnt have third person mode, I play for immersion and fun and it seems that if someone is a sweat and wants to win they play in third person for a massive advantage

I miss the old variation of this map...

How did you get to the character selection screen on mountain peak at 6:48?

Dude my head spinning

lovely stuff

Wild how there isn’t a proper wiki for this game lol

For the glory of Agatha!

1:58 I like how this is even worse than mordhau, you can literally hit people behind you

fully missed this video :)

how you turn so fast? it always slow down my camera speed whilst swinging

I call this cheating. There is a turning rate slowdown implemented I the game and you are obviously breaking the limit. All those 360 moons should be banned from the game. No one wants to play with you

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do you still offer paid coaching for melee slasher games?

Who cares about growth? Chivalry was never promoted as a competitively serious game, but a casual one. You can know that by just seeing the theme of the game, every character is crazy and the humor of the game is gory and light hearted at the same time. It's clear that it wasn't designed to be taken seriously. And Mordhau does take itself more seriously, the social interactions weren't intended to be as silly as they were. So you can take the game more seriously and practice, but that's exactly why it fails. Even with a tutorial, as you said, nobody wants to spend 2000 hours just to rival a good player. Player skill growth doesn't make a good game, it's mechanics does. And Chivalry does that greatly even if you remove "dark arts" entirely, because the gameplay loop is fun, not how deep the rabbit-hole goes. That only matters to a minority of players.

A mechanic abuse that hurts readability should never exist in video games, regardless of how skill it takes to master. Every game should feel fair to even the noobest of players. And you can do that without lowering the skill ceiling or removing depth from mechanics. This is why animation abuse shouldn't exist in multiplayer slashing games like Chiv 2 and Mordhau.

The armor looks like it was ordered from Temu, fucking shitty models

The problem with Mord/Chiv isn't that newbies don't want to learn the patterns of eight animations of dozens of weapons, it's that it doesn't look cool. At all. When people come to СS/LoL/Tekken, they often first see cyber athletes at tournaments/streams and see how cool they play. And their games do look cool, because the developers give functionality sharpened for that in the first place. Cybersports games encourage skill and making it look cool and organic in game. But that's not going to be the case with Mord/Chiv, when newbies come into the game and see ballerinas with goofy broken animations. At best they'll laugh. Because it looks clownish, it looks ridiculous, buggy, it doesn't look cool, realistic or fun. I disagree with you on that point. It's not part of the game, otherwise that part of the game wouldn't be hidden behind 1000's of hours of game experience. That's why animation abuse will never be in trailers (and in trailers as you mentioned it will be shamefully mocked and denied) and no professional tournaments broadcast by developers, because any tournament is a showcase for new players. These games are doomed to stay with <2k players online, precisely because of animations (well, and lack of content). The funny thing is that you say that if you remove the animation abuse it will turn the game into MB (which has dozens of times more players so I wouldn't say it's a disadvantage lol), yet there is a game with perfectly realistic and smooth fencing animations, with a super realistic armor system and no ballerinas. But it has one big problem, it's single-player. It's called Kingdom Come Deliverance. So the criteria for what to aim for is there. The problem remains that it's insanely difficult to implement and balance for multiplayer.

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No held parry no chambering ehh im good. It being focused on comp is weird too, most people don't care about that in this genre

No way you did this video edit already I saw the original video of no longer can you spin to win and had the same edit idea XD

I want to learn how to do this amazing skills please show us how to do it

See this a lot less now, think they made it harder. I don't know why some people got really mad at it - it's quite easy to dodge or block as the wind up is really obvious.

here in 2024, spins got nerfed a little but are still huge even against high rank players. high risk high reward.

walking backwards and smashing people with insta hits is next level brutality

Huh when did they take out the quiver, just started playing ambusher so I never knew that changed

1:28 did that just… bounce off an arrow??

great video

3:15 was a kick by the looks of things is that a class base thing or for everyone

Nice you play on west?

Poor last guy haha

why does the game look better 2 years ago. not just graphics but a less sluggish turn cap... look how they massacred my boy

4:40 thats me, look mom im on television :o

I can confirm that this is still a crazy strat

nice server, my server are full of rank 500-1000 sweatlord/team switching and keep spamming "ez" when they win against low rank noobs lol

How do I make loads of money please help

the point is in duel is still possible because none interrupt you but i feel like in battle there higher chance to not work do o group of peobles holding the block, it can work ofc managed to do iit a couple of times but it still feel a bit more fair, i don't play duels so i like that atleast in 32vs 32 battles is not that easy to throw off if many peoples are around. in the first chivalry the more people the better.

Spam over head good job buddy takes a lot of skill

You confirmed my original first thought theory when I first played the game. Throwing on console is useless. The LB RB combo same time press is not reliable enough compared to PC. Even with paddles. And you can’t map a paddle to that action on Xbox, as a paddle can only be mapped to a single button. P1-LB P2-RB. The delay and accidental thrust or overhead comes into play too often on console. What you did at the ammo box with the throwing knives I don’t think is possible on console.

What a shame, I thought when Stouty aligned with the mobius team that they would share the desire for realism and moving away from swing manip. I guess my hopes were misplaced.

Chop 1 chop 2 chop a man down

If you play ambushed I suggest you use hatchet. If you get behind someone just overhead heavy. The dagger is great but I believe hatchet is better to start with and to actually fight with. Dagger is the best “I hate this guy in specific weapon” and can one shot almost everyone. But hatchets two shots from behind anyway. Plus it cleaves

the bloom ruins it all

I press counter when the dude tries to kick me but I still get hit.

see these spins are not the same spins this guy is doing, his is like a full fucking 360 fast attack it makes no sense

good stuff

Why sometimes I get kicked even after I have already swinged my weapon? Is that the cause of game mechanics or just lag?