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Turquoise in America
United States
Приєднався 13 лип 2020
First American Turquoise Rush Part 2
In Part Two Mike continues the story of the early turquoise miners and honors the contributions of First Nation people to the history of turquoise. #turquoise #indianjewellery #indianhistory
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First American Turquoise Rush Part One
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The story of the Great American Turquoise Rush is told in Turquoise in America Part One 1890-1910. It would not have been possible without the efforts of the prehistoric turquoise miners, the Ancestral Puebloan. In this video Mike explores the contributions of these early miners. #turquoise #indianjewelry #turquoisehistory
Collections and Provenance
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Provenance and grade are the main determinants of price. One way to determine provenance is to buy from established collections. In this video Mike describes how to better establish provenance and shows some examples of high grade purchased from well known collections. #turquoise #turquoise #naturalturquoise #turquoisecollecting
Gem Grade Part 2
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Grading turquoise is difficult. In this video Mike talks about the highest gem grade which comprises perhaps as little as 0.1% of all turquoise mined and we see some beautiful examples. #turquoise #turquoisejewelry #turquoisecabochons #gemstone
Best of the Callais Collection
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In this video Mike describes some of the best selections from his personal turquoise collection, the Callais Collection. #turquoise
Turquoise Grade
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In this video Mike looks at different grade from the same mine, Thunder Mountain. #turquoise #thundermountain #indianjewelry
Joshua Bingham Interview
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Joshua is a master jeweler known for using fine turquoise. In this interview he explains his process and we see some of the turquoise he uses. #turquoise #turquoisejewelry #southwesternstyle
CG Wallace and Turquoise
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C.G. Wallace has an important role in the history of Indian traders. He also played an important role in the history of turquoise. In this video Mike reviews his contributions. #turquoise #indiantraders #indianjewelry
Bisbee Part 3
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Bisbee is an iconic turquoise. In this video Mike shows some photos from the 1970's. #turquoise #Bisbee #bisbeeturquoise #indianjewelry
Thunder Mountain & Grasshopper
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In this video Mike discusses two lesser known turquoise mines in Nevada Grasshopper and Thunder Mountain and we see some high grade turquoise. #turquoise #grasshopper #thundermountsin #indianjewelry
Hidden Valley
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Hidden Valley has a mysterious past. In this video Mike discusses the history and we see some rare and beautiful turquoise. #turquoise #hiddenvalley #indianjewelry
Villa Grove
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Villa Grove has a long and storied history. It is currently under water. Join Mike as he discusses Villa Grove and shows some beautiful turquoise. #turquoise #villagrove
Turquoise and Grade Identification
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Identifying turquoise is difficult, often no more than a guessing game. In this video Mike discusses a new study that demonstrates a way to identify turquoise through testing for a trace element signature. #turquoise #turquoiseidentification
Papoose Turquoise
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Papoose is a little known turquoise. In this video Mike tells a bit about the history and we see a stunning gem grade cab. #turquoise #papoose #papooseturquoise #indianjewelry
eBooks Publication Announcement
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Turquoise in America is the first comprehensive history of turquoise covering one hundred thirty years is three volumes. These books have been unavailable to international turquoise lovers due to the expense and logistics of international shipping from the US. With the publication of digital editions of Parts One, Two and Three the books are available all over the world. #turquoise #ebooks
Interview with Danny Lopacki Part 1
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Interview with Danny Lopacki Part 1
Turquoise in Navajo and Pueblo Jewelry
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Turquoise in Navajo and Pueblo Jewelry
Was there any mining of turquoise by the Pueblo dwellers after 1692?
Not to my knowledge.
Do you have a video showing off your turquoise collection?
Most of the videos show turquoise from the Callais Collection.
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Welcome.
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I do prefer the scientific scale used on Instagram: A+ = Killer, Wow, Price? Amazing, (various emojis 3+ minimum or 10+ fire emojis) That’s pretty much standard mineralogical terminology - hope this helps 😁😁🧐
Hello Sir, Who & Where do you see Godber B. Red and Dark Web? Are they rare and gem grade & Why?
Godber gem grade is exceptionally rare including dark web which is why it is not often available in the market. The best source for any turquoise is the miner.
@@turquoiseinamerica3164 Thank you Sir.
Very interesting. Another great video. Thanks. 🙂
Glad you like it.
It's nice to see your attempts to disclose the somewhat history of Turquoise , however, you are a little naive about the facts. Dowell Ward borrowed funds from Phil Woodard for a Cat to strip the turquoise and he paid the loan back via the turquoise sold at IJS in Gallup. After his death the note reappeared and some dispicables from Gallup and Zuni tricked FAYE with the note and stole a truck and trailer of her Stabilized #8 and hid it in Gallup, later selling it to some Arizonians for big money as Natural ! this fiasco turned into a Huge Money Fraud Law Suit wherein , those sellers Lost and are still trying to recover from their Fraud ! Truth is 95% of #8 is Stabilized as is 95% of Sleeping Beauty Turquoise , especially the Current "My grandfather stored SB in his building for 50 years and I've found it just recently in Mexico just across the border from Tucson ", . There's way more Mexican Sleeping Beauty than anyone knows .That's just the Facts believe it or not . Best thing a buyer can do is deal with those who have proven Integrity . If you live long enough , you may know as much as i learned in 54 years for mining , cutting, selling and manufacturing jewelry with many Native American Artists ,using Natural turquoise 99% of the time ! Keep up the wonderful promotion of the Native American Culture !
Could you consider a episode on the natural nugget beads before shaping heishi or before spanish silver as you just said some on it
I am not an expert on Native American jewelry so not really qualified to present that topic.
Lousy sound cant hear you. But great book so much info is trapped on paper conquistadores take any back to spain?
Cortez received turquoise because the Aztec valued it above gold. Much ended up in museums in England and Scotland.
YOU ARE GUESSING TIME FRAMES OF NATIVE AMERICANS HISTORY BOOKS LIE ABOUT NATIVE AMERICAN TIMELINES ACOMA PUEBLO ARE CARBO DATED 30000 YEARS AGO AT SKY CITY
We are learning about the prehistoric period of turquoise mining. Whatever the history of Acoma there is no evidence of turquoise mining.
It is surprising to me that recent research on meso american (aztec) artifacts showed no turquoise imported from from the northern mines: ua-cam.com/video/DApIqKZivHc/v-deo.htmlº
These studies suppose turquoise from the south but no mines have been located unlike in the southwest U.S. where most modern mines have indicated prehistoric mining.
Great video and historic perspective. 🙂
Thank you. Part Two will continue the story focusing on the importance of Pecos Pueblo as a trade center.
I love my late 80s C Turquoise. Since then MAGNASITE gets color & stabilized
There are many reputable Chinese turquoise dealers presenting beautiful turquoise both stabilized and natural.
Thanks Mike, It would be interesting to see some Black web No.8 or some Blue Star , which was the original name of this mine.
Would like to have some.
Amazing work sir.. I am from Muscat. Country is Oman.. Very close to iran. We here in Muscat get very good turquoise from... Iran.. I like to buy turquoise.. Recently got into this. Your inputs were valuable.. God bless...
Thanks for your support. Digital copies of the books are available on the website.
Amazing video ! Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge and also your beautiful turquoise.
So glad you are enjoying.
There’s a guy on Etsy with some top grade Indian Mountain, Timeless Turquoise. Cheyenne is great - Jesse hasn’t had any Cheyenne for sale recently. My experience anyway. A total straight-shooter though.
As mentioned in the video Cheyenne has been in regulatory limbo restricting production. Hope to see some soon.
Great video Mike! The amount of higher grade natural material is shrinking for sure. Especially from small mines of the past. Indian Mountain is one of my faves besides Morenci. That’s a nice stone.
Thanks,especially from such a talented jeweler with so much experience. You tell your story in Turquoise in America Part Two, 1910-1990.
Thanks for the sales pitch.
Well if you benefit do you mind if I benefit? You are welcome to ignore any advice and begrudge me any commerce from my considerable effort to educate the public. An informed consumer is a better customer but only for the honest vendor. What are you ?
If I sent you a photo of my Bisbee Ring could you give me a general grading for it? I felt like it was higher than the mid grade you showed but maybe not QUITE as high as the very high grade lol. I can't say for sure, it may very well be high grade because it's a stunning stone, with a deep deep blue color and great brown/black matrix. But those you showed were so unique and beautiful, mine is absolutely beautiful but in a different way so I would love your opinion if possible!
I can give my opinion but grading is not possible from a photo. You can grade the ring yourself following the Turquoise Grading System using the R2 rules of grading I developed. You can find videos and an article describing the system on the Blog at turquoiseinamerica.com .
I always start your videos on my phone but transfer them to the tv- many thanks for sharing your knowledge of this stone that steals your heart.
You are welcome.
Man, its ALWAYS a treat when you share your high grade and gem grade thrqhoise collection with us, yhe viewers. I am always so grateful how much youve educated us and countless hours and years of work your put into sharing your knowledge. As a intermediate Diné silversmith, i am ALWAYS faithful to my buyers about wether or not i know where a stone came from, and if jts stabilized or not. Because i at least can sleep at night haha
@@user-um8uk9mb9t Honesty is the best policy. Good for peace of mind, good for business.
Great point Mike. Though not all mines produce a gem grade black web or even a spiderweb at all, the gem grade is still the gem grade. Bisbee top grade is different from Royston top grade and top grade Blue Gem is different from Top Grade Fox
Hey, I see your comments a lot in all the turquoise channels I visit. If you don't mind me asking, what got you into turquoise? I fell in love with it when I seen my first navajo mens ring by Kevin Yazzie. He has a punk/metal/native style that I also try to capture in my silversmithing work. His is refined, but mine is still in its beginning stages. Trying to amalgamate the two different styles "punk and native American" is pretty tough.
@@tattoofthesun Fox has long been a staple in Native American jewelry because it was plentiful and not expensive while showing a very nice mid grade look in the natural. There was a lot of Fox treated by Dowell Ward when he had the mine. While I have seen high grade Fox, I have never seen gem grade. Blue Gem was a staple in the trade from the mid thirties until the mid seventies providing hard natural stone with consistent HMG to HG.
@@user-um8uk9mb9t Although I bought my first turquoise during the boom of the 70’s I did not get bit by the bug until I retired from my financial advisor career in 2011 and began collecting. I started the history research in 2014.
Hi make a video on how to know if your natural clean blue turquoise will turn green or not . I dont like green turquoise whereas the stabilized ones dont change colour . How can one determine that the stone he is going to buy will stay blue rather than going green ?!
Generally with natural turquoise the higher the grade the harder the stone and less chance of absorption of oil and color change. As you note treated turquoise will fill the porous natural with plastic or other material
Oh wow. I did not know that some people have a problem calling a stone natural if it has been buffed or backed... Well then, I say it's not natural unless it's still in the earth lol (just kidding of course). ✌🏻 great video yet again!
Thanks.
Haha I like this socratic-ljke method to questioning the logic.
@@user-um8uk9mb9t What is the question?
Yo quiero uno con piedra negra
I assume you mean turquoise in a black chert matrix.
I asked a seller of Tibetan Turquoise on eBay what the marking on the back that I kept on seeing was? It looked as though the cab had started as a bead and broke by drilling. It looked like it began to be drilled and then split in two. Being then saved as a oval cabochon dome and on the flat backside a fairly deep gouge mark 1/4 to 1/2 of the way down. They said to me it was a marking that is used to help identify Tibetan Turquoise. How true that is I do not know...?
Sorry, I don’t know.
No disrespect but you should invite real master Native silver smith.
I should and I have. In Turquoise in America Part Three. The Stories of Turquoise,1990-2020 you may read the stories of several Native American jewelers. Videos require time and travel both in short supply for busy jewelers. Joshua lives nearby and is a master jeweler who works with the finest turquoise.
Thank you very much! Very interesting information!
You are welcome.
Hi 👋 Does anyone know which kind of turquoise Mike is wearing on his neck… it is so beautiful 🤩
Let’s ask Mike. “It is Chinese,Hubei Provence from the Yungai Temple Mine.”The history of Chinese turquoise coming to the U.S. is in Part Two.
I just finished my very first ring and I used a beautiful cab of Blue Moon that I got from the Otteson's store. ✌🏻
Congratulations
سلام استاد. واقعا سپاس ازت چون بینهایت استفاده کردم و از دانش تو لذت بردم
Thank you for your kind words.
This sounds like it should be more expensive than diamonds.
Diamond pricing is controlled by a cartel which distorts the price. Turquoise,especially at the highest grades is much more rare than diamonds.
Your PIXIE NEKLACE is variscite not Turquoise . I was partner with Dr. Ingersol and Louie Gomes in the Pixie mine . My cutting shop in Gallup did thousands of Cabochons of Pixie . I have a small amount of Carats in my collection and none look like your necklace .WE mined the Pixie with a D8 Cat and we know our Pixie . I've been in the Turquoise Business for 54 years and have Many High Grade Cabochons in my personal Collection . I appreciate your attempt to classify Turquoise and your youtube presentations as it is excellent to a point .
Yes most Pixie is probably variscite just as much Carico Lake is probably variscite. Most New Lander is variscite.
That's a very finely embroidered shirt.
I just bought some rough turquoise I cut some kinda weak stuff not sure if it has been treated
I didn't know of the No. 8 Godber family connection....
In addition to owning Godber Burnham the Godber family became active as dealers of turquoise and Native American jewelry. Frank Patania Sr bought from them, including the No.8 selection shown.
Is there any known cure for the turquoise bug?
No. I am afraid it is incurable.
Amazing content as usual!! Thank you !!!
Glad you enjoy.
Was at Friendship Flea Market yesterday for their annual sale. Huge turquoise markets. Almost got a cuff stuck on my hand.
The black background makes the blue pop big time with turquoise! Thank you for sharing 😊
Dark web does that but also red web from some mines.
Thank you for putting so much care and work into these videos. It is clear this is a passion and I wanted you to know that we see the love and effort you put out here. You are appreciated.
Thank you. I have fun and I guess it shows.
Love the green stone on your neck. What stone is that
Carico Lake in a Michael Grant bead necklace
@@turquoiseinamerica3164 thank you so much . ISO
Your videos are so helpful! I have some information regarding turquoise. I’ve been finding loads of it in a River in the Adirondack mountains. I have some questions because I can’t find any info on River turquoise especially in the northeast. They seem to be VHG or GG, although I’m still looking for slightly bigger specimens. It would be amazing if you could offer your input. I would be happy to email you about this. Let me know. Thank you for your videos.
I have never heard of turquoise found in a placer claim.
@@turquoiseinamerica3164 I am very new to the world of geology so I could be miss identifying. I even thought somebody may have dropped a piece of jewelry into the river however, I keep finding it. I’m working my way up the river to find the source. And also, there are quite a few mines in the area with copper and other indicators of possible turquoise. I thought maybe the old mine dumps were washing out into the river. I’ll know more when I find the source. I’ve been finding it in a large river with what looks like Kelechi creating many places to catch heavys.
@@turquoiseinamerica3164 if I can prove, I found it in New York, is it worth more or less?
Awsome again!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!
I like the diamond shape cab at the bottom of the left group. That would be my #1 pick from the tray.
It's a beautiful stone. I think the cut adds a lot to it's beauty!
Your preference is what I discuss regarding personal bias. Your top pick may not be the stone that has the highest grade but it is your highest grade.
Question: How do you grade turquoise? Answer: You don't.
@@dm-cu2ie I suggest you watch the videos on grading and read the article on the Blog on the website describing the Turquoise Grading System I developed using the R2 Rules of turquoise grading. You may not grade turquoise but I do and the market does so every day in determine the price.
@@turquoiseinamerica3164don’t pay too much mind to the dumb responses, Mike. You’re making great strides for the community
Hi Mike. I wanted to ask about Pyrite in Turquoise. Is it dangerous to wear since pyrite contains arsenic? Thank you!
I am neither a doctor nor a geologist but I imagine that would depend on the concentration and whether it is ingested or somehow absorbed. Since it would only be a trace amount and unless you are sucking on your turquoise, I would think not. Some turquoise contains trace amounts of uranium but at minuscule levels that are not harmful.
Kerman is often dyed and stabilized. The desirable turquoise is NEISHABOUR. I am trying to source 80mm to 85mm x 40mm oval cabs for belt buckles and it has been difficult to find cabs greater than 40mm long in Neishabour. The size I am looking for in Neishabour is very difficult to find and very pricey. Larger cabs are pears. I personally like the inclusions in the Kerman and I may be able to find the size I am looking for in Kerman. I am being told it is dyed and stabilized though. I am building buckles for everyday use. I am cool with it.
Kerman is generally softer than Nishabur. Finding large cabs of natural turquoise is becoming more difficult as prices rise and cutters cut smaller cabs to keep prices down. The turquoise market in Iran has become difficult due to corruption and inflation. A dealer may arrange pricing for rough,export and treatment only to find when purchasing more rough that the price has increased 300%. Negotiating with the corruption is costly and often dangerous.
Would love a closeup on the stones he brought and the cuffs
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