Claudia, The Cloudy Desk
Claudia, The Cloudy Desk
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8 Pen Questions | #8PenQuestions2024
Apologies if the audio is a little buzzy or if you can hear the wind outside! Just doing the best I can while fighting a number of factors.
Today I am jumping on the 8 pen question train from @seemownay and @lianelikes ! Tomorrow it will continue on with @lifeinspiresdesign so please check it out. You can see the whole playlist of videos here:
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And here are the 8 pen questions:
1. When and how did your Fountain Pen Journey begin?
2. Favorite inks in the beginning? What are your go-to inks now?
3. How have your ink and pen tastes changed over time?
4. Are there inks & pens that you have yet to try but would like to?
5. What is your Holy Grail Pen?
6. How many pens do you currently own?
7. Do you have a limit on pens (or inks) in your collection? Is it a number? Is it a feeling? When do you know that you have reached your maximum?
8. Consequently, what would you do if another pen/ink came along?
Feel free to sign up to join the train:
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#8penquestions2024 #8penquestions #fountainpen #ink
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Using a ring binder for meal planning | Maruman Session Mini Binder
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Some of the items mentioned in the video: Maruman Session Mini Binder - B7 Modified - Transparent (www.jetpens.com/Maruman-Session-Mini-Binder-B7-Modified-Transparent/pd/37467) Maruman Loose Leaf Paper - B7 Modified - Easy to Write - 5mm Graph - 9 Holes - 100 Sheets (www.jetpens.com/Maruman-Loose-Leaf-Paper-B7-Modified-Easy-to-Write-5mm-Graph-9-Holes-100-Sheets/pd/23840) Maruman B7 Mini PVC poc...
A swampy ink swatching session
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I got 11 inks from a friend and my inner swamp goblin is very happy! #fountainpen #ink #stationery #journal
My favorite nib grinds from the Philly Pen Show | Reverse Architect & Journaler nibs
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Since I forgot to mention in the video, below has the ink info, along with the nib info, for both pens. TWSBI Diamond Mini Clear Originally fine nib, ground to a reverse architect by Kirk Spear/Pen Realm www.penrealm.com/services/nib-grinding/ Inked with: Kobe 34, Sorakuen Tea Green TWSBI Eco T Mint Originally a medium nib, ground to a journaler by Gena Salorino/Custom Nib Studio www.customnibs...
How I'm using my Traveler's Notebooks
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Let's take a flip through my four traveler's notebooks and explore how I am using each one. My collection grew from one to four over the last few months so I wonder how many I will end the year with... #journal #stationery
My 2024 ink plan and January currently inked
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Yes, while editing this I realize I never selected a shimmer ink. On the first month and I've already broken my own rules! However I will ink a shimmer up sometime soon to fix that. The rules: 1 pen for my 5-year journal 2 pens inked with document inks for drawing 2 every day carry pens 2 letter-writing/home pens 1 ink has to be a shimmer ink 1 of the document inks has to be black 1 of the ever...
How I'm using my small Delfonics pouch
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Some of the items mentioned in the video: niconeco zakkaya - Delfonics Utility Pouch S www.niconeco.com/products/delfonics-utility-pouch-yellow-s Cerealnana’s foldable trash bin tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/8lJniKDLh68/v-deo.htmlsi=jJqpNXz2yX-EHRMK Nicole Josphine’s shop www.nicolejosephine.com/
Techo Kaigi: My 2023 review and 2024 lineup
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Let's look at the journals and planners I used in 2023 and what I'm planning to use in 2024. Apologies for the helicopter in the background. Nicole Josphine shop www.nicolejosephine.com/ Forest Planner Kickstarter www.kickstarter.com/projects/nicolejosephine/forest-planner-undated-weekly-and-daily-planner My 2024 Work Tracker video ua-cam.com/video/r2oVumkQUCY/v-deo.htmlsi=SPhTZNgRcpd3XZjr
My 2024 Work Tracker
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Let's look at home I'm keeping my work projects organized next year with my very own project management notebook. I am using my Hobonichi A5 Memo Notebook insert as a combination Gantt chart and Kanban board to help me keep track of my various projects, deadlines, and key dates.
Organize my ink samples with me
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Join me while I make it easier to find my ink samples easier to find. Since I will be gaining 25 more small ink bottles from inkvent I want to get a head start on tackling this box.
Best purchases from 2023 and lessons learned
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My favorite pens, cases, notebooks, and more from 2023 and looking forward to 2024 what can I learn from these wins. This channel is a work in process, but I have identified a few things that should improve audio and video quality moving forward, but I didn't want to scrap this video.
How I organize my letter supplies | Lihit Lab A5 Bag in Bag
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Welcome to my first UA-cam video! Today let's take a look at how I organize and store all of my letter writing supplies. JetPens: Lihit Lab A5 Bag in Bag (yellow green) www.jetpens.com/Lihit-Lab-Bag-in-Bag-A5-Yellow-Green/pd/7670

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  • @snarkywordsworth
    @snarkywordsworth 7 днів тому

    I've been going through some journaling fatigue lately, and this video provided so much inspiration. Now I have loads of possibilities to think over because of you. Thank you so much for sharing!

  • @carolyncoppola974
    @carolyncoppola974 Місяць тому

    I was wondering if the RB point can be swapped out for the FP nib! Wow! Thank you!!!! Can you tell me are those standard international cartridges as well? Thanks so much!

  • @elijahhawkins3909
    @elijahhawkins3909 Місяць тому

    It's incredible that only a handful of companies do this considering the wealth of cool inks one can use with both of these nibs if the company is to be believed

  • @adrianacavittcavazos430
    @adrianacavittcavazos430 Місяць тому

    That Platinum Carbon is THE BEST black ink I’ve tried. Thank you for this video; I am in the process of buying this pen and the fact that I can change it from rollerball to fountain pen is just unbeatable.

  • @lukebaldwin3335
    @lukebaldwin3335 2 місяці тому

    What are the 2 standards size?

  • @CricketGirrl
    @CricketGirrl 3 місяці тому

    Great video. I have three TN's. I use one for health tracking, one for journaling and memory keeping, and my little passport for my schedule. 😊

  • @robertschulten412
    @robertschulten412 3 місяці тому

    What are you using for photos?

  • @TheTruckingScribe
    @TheTruckingScribe 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for the inspiration I am thinking about getting one. 💜💜💜

  • @ladyamalthea85
    @ladyamalthea85 5 місяців тому

    My Kaweco Sport is currently inked with Summer Purple, it's quite nice

  • @ironmic9244
    @ironmic9244 5 місяців тому

    Those comics are so cool. Is that based on your day? Like a journal or diary but done in comics? Your voice is just so soothing. Was it always like this, or did you develop it that way being a librarian? Definitely try to get the Parker looked at, and see if you can get it writing to your liking, because when you use it, it'll feel even more special. Excellent video.

  • @MariaRosseau
    @MariaRosseau 5 місяців тому

    I love that you're feeling satisfied with your pens, or not feeling the need to expand the collection arbitrarily. :)

  • @user-mk8lj9dy2w
    @user-mk8lj9dy2w 5 місяців тому

    This was a very enjoyable video! As someone who grew up in the Bronx, I love the subway token! Do you happen to have a link to the set of NYC stamps?

  • @amarisjoseph
    @amarisjoseph 5 місяців тому

    Can you do a video on how you set it up

  • @phil9902
    @phil9902 5 місяців тому

    Promo_SM ❣️

  • @tattooedcat
    @tattooedcat 5 місяців тому

    Wonderful video, Claudia! What a fun way to get to know your intro into pens and how your use has evolved. Your collection is awesome and well rounded. That Parker of your grandmothers is so special. Thank you so much for sharing! 🤘🏼😸🧡🖋

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 5 місяців тому

      Thank you so much! Yeah I think I want to get a special grind on the parker to make it even more special

  • @FountainPenNews
    @FountainPenNews 5 місяців тому

    Yay yay yay! I've been looking forward to your video!

  • @lianelikes
    @lianelikes 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for sharing! I have to agree, with @cerealnana, your voice is very soothing and I wasn't even aware of any background audio!!!

  • @LittleCocoStudio
    @LittleCocoStudio 5 місяців тому

    I enjoyed watching your video, and I loved getting a glimpse of your comics! You’re very talented! 🤩 I found your perspective on being rebellious with ink colours so interesting. When I started exploring inks, my mind went straight to trying to find matches for the colours I was used to using in ballpoint and gel pens. Looking back, it’s amusing to think about how dedicated I was to finding the perfect shade… to match my utilitarian pens. 😅 It took me a bit longer to branch out and try other colour families, but I’m glad I did because it’s so much fun!

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 5 місяців тому

      Yes! I noticed that in your 8penquestions video!! It is so interesting how much everyone's approach to picking inks in the beginning differs so much.

  • @michellealdrich
    @michellealdrich 5 місяців тому

    TFS 🤗

  • @fountainpeninsanity3344
    @fountainpeninsanity3344 5 місяців тому

    I had an older person tell me once that back when everyone used fountain pens, ink that shaded was considered low quality. Now shading is my and many other people’s favorite quality in an ink. Thanks for the video! Your voice is really relaxing.

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 5 місяців тому

      It is so interesting how that changes!

  • @kan-zee
    @kan-zee 5 місяців тому

    10:13...You got good taste in fountain pens....I traded for an inexpensive $90 usd TRAVELER'S COMPANY BRASS Fountain Pen and enjoying its toughness and scribbing ...a good writer. 10:22 ...wow ...the Schon pocket six is a great EDC PEN..My friend has one, she bought it for $150 usd....and she takes it everywhere. I agree....I don't know how these F.P. Connoisseurs do it .. they have 50-200 pens ...and i wonder, how the heck , do they use them all...LOL 😂🤔🤪🤑 ************************************************ ************************************************ Hi and Good Morning !! I am new to this fun relaxing (Hoarding practice) of collecting fountain pens. Your video just popped up on my feed...and I love hearing about other peoples , fountain pen journeys. #1 .. *WHEN or HOW DID YOUR FOUNTAIN PEN JOURNEY Begin ?* I had a super expensive fountain pen , but it got missing (5 finger digit discount is my guess)..i did the ballpoint , then the gel pens...but I started collecting fountain pens, recently , back in Jan 2024 (2 months ago 🤩👍) I started out with Dip Calligraphy pens, back in the 70's...then I moved into Manuscript brand and traded that in for the Rotring art pens for decades till they went out of business...I've not been able to find a similar brand like Rotring , and have settled with affordable Chinese calligraphy fountain pens. I think my interest in fountain pens started , when I was little and witnessed my mom writing at the kitchen table , making lists of things to do, shopping lists , etc. She used a fountain pen, and wouldn't let me play with it. #2 .. *FAVORITE iNKs IN THE BEGINNING ?* *WHAT ARE YOUR GO-TO iNKs NOW ?* I went forward into _budget inks_ ...I started with BLACK iNKs __Parker Quink ink_ , for it's availability and affordability. $10 a bottle. I love black inks and soon got hooked on "Amazon" ink purchases.. $$$$ _Platinum carbon inks_ ,for its water proof and permanence ..but I am aiming at More colored inks. Since discovering fountain pen community and their youtube channels...I am exploring more earthly colors, like Diamine Green-black and Diamine Writers blood..I am looking for brownish & gold inks now. #3 .. *HOW HAVE YOUR PEN / iNK TASTES CHANGED OVER TIME ?* I started with the budget pens. cause I am knew to fountain pens and have no clue, what i like or dislike with all the options, on the market ...So I followed the examples and video demo's from veteran fountain pen users. *_Kakuno_* ($17 cad ) _Amazon basics_ ($15 cad ) and _Parker pens_ ($20 cad ) but now, I am aiming for more clear barrel (demonstrator body) pens , that hold a good amount of ink...I like seeing my ink levels diminish ,as I write with my fountain pen. I don't know why, i am not attracted to the fancy barreled deco fountain pens, like my friends are... I love my Kakuno fine ($20cad) and medium fountain pens ($17 cad), and use these the most. The 'stinky' ($35cad) Noodlers flex nib, (I need to practice with this nib) couple of Lamy fountain pens / (Safari med $45cad) / (vista fine $40cad) ~ my partner loves her lamy vista ($58 cad) a *Twisbi~Go* fountain pen (great ink reservoir) ($10 cad) a Few of the *Jinhao fountain pens* (great prices and surprisingly good writers) ($15 cad ) *Amazon basics fountain pen* (budget but not my fav, due to the hevy weight) ($24 cad ) *Parker Vector fountain pen* (feels like a pencil sized pen) ($25 cad) Staples office, *General supply fountain pen* (looks good, a bit on the heavy side, too small of an ink cartridge) ($45 cad) A set of *Platinum Preppy colored fountain pens* (fun colors to scribe with) ($11 cad) A bunch of *Pilot varsity disposable fountain pens* (for gifting to family/friends) ($50 cad) Asvine V126 and (over $100 cad) a Bunch of *Calligraphy dip pens and calligraphy broad nib fountain pens* (my bujo work horses on titling entries and making Language lessons with.) #4 .. *ARE THERE PENS & iNKs THAT YOU HAVE NOT YET TRIED?..But would like to ?* I started with fountain pens under $25 cad...but now I am changing it to the budget pens $10- $70cad. Eventually I will look into affordable gold nib pens, after a year of playing around and having ink fun. #5 .. *WHAT IS YOUR HOLY GRAIL PEN?* I don't believe in a Holy Grail pen✒🏆🖋, cause it would end my fun collection..lol. 😎👍 #6 .. *HOW MANY PENS, DO YOU OWN?* in 2 months (since jan 2024) I have purchased 16 budget fountain pens & 6 disposable fountain pens & 17 calligraphy pens. I am just getting started..lol #7 .. *DO YOU HAVE A LIMIT ON PENs/iNKs FOR YOUR COLLECTION?* *Is it a feeling ? When do you know, you have reached your Maximum ?* No limit for now...I am guessing , when I fill up my fountain pen case of 50 pens, i've reached a good level, and will I stop ?? I don't know. I have over 200 gel & ballpoint pens...so who truly knows what My limit is with fountain pens...LOL I am a bit of a hoarder and collector..lol #8 .. *CONSEQUENTLY, WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF ANOTHER PEN/iNK CAME ALONG?* Depends on the pen, and the ink and it's price.. LOL 😂 🤣 I like to explore new pens and inks...if it fits my collection, i will take it and hoard it away..LOL ********************************************** I love all your answers...

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 5 місяців тому

      thank you for sharing your answers!

  • @queenbuzybee4074
    @queenbuzybee4074 5 місяців тому

    Hey Claudia! I love the idea of a comic journal - that is so cool! Thank you for sharing your journey with us!

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 5 місяців тому

      Thank you! When I was younger it was easier to draw my feelings than write about them

  • @riesemma
    @riesemma 5 місяців тому

    Most brush pens I've seen use cartridges (not refillable fountain pen style) and don't have a cap clip... What brand made your brush pen with a clip on the cap? Seeing as it is a converter, is there a brush pen ink you use from the bottle? So cool!!!

  • @cerealnana
    @cerealnana 5 місяців тому

    You have such a nice voice! I loved hearing about your pen journey!

  • @littleoldemeartistry-marieehi
    @littleoldemeartistry-marieehi 5 місяців тому

    I like how you're so intentional in your collecting.

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 5 місяців тому

      Thank you! I have a tiny NYC apartment so I have to be careful about anything I accumulate.

  • @nizammajid5002
    @nizammajid5002 6 місяців тому

    Am so looking forward to try out the Jounaler nib grind. Love it! Thanks for the video!

  • @bonnieshapiro3511
    @bonnieshapiro3511 6 місяців тому

    Who was the lady you said you follow for journaling ideas. I like get new ideas for journals. Enjoyed watching your video of how you use your journals. I’m planning to set up a day trip journal and a list/collection journal. I like the ideas of a nature or seasons journal. I bought a tarot deck but haven’t had time to start learning yet so that could be a tarot journal for me. Thanks

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      I don't remember who I mentioned, but it was probably Seemownay

  • @momtoeve
    @momtoeve 6 місяців тому

    That kassia flora interests me for sure but overall I think all of these are stunning and I don’t have any of them 😮these are definitely for those of us in the swamp

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      I can't wait to put these in pens! They're all so interesting

  • @emmaspark8995
    @emmaspark8995 6 місяців тому

    this is such a smart idea ❤

  • @annettefertitta6868
    @annettefertitta6868 6 місяців тому

    Love your nature journal

  • @TheKoffeeVerse
    @TheKoffeeVerse 6 місяців тому

    That is a really cool idea!

  • @fountainPENdulum
    @fountainPENdulum 6 місяців тому

    I find this mini binder very appealing in a general way. I use the Kokuyo Refillable binders from Jetpens in B5 and A6- love them.

  • @cerealnana
    @cerealnana 6 місяців тому

    I really need to do something like this. I might try to make a mini disc binder or something as that binder is of course not available in the UK.

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      I'm sure discs would work! Would love to see what you pull together

  • @littleoldemeartistry-marieehi
    @littleoldemeartistry-marieehi 6 місяців тому

    I've been looking at these on JetPens. I collect quotes and always seem to be unable to find the one I want when I need it. This would allow me to group by theme and add pages or move them around.

  • @rachelnichols7347
    @rachelnichols7347 6 місяців тому

    This is adoooooorrrrable.

  • @thepedanticplanner
    @thepedanticplanner 6 місяців тому

    Clever and compact. I like the idea of a small book. I have a similar one done with discs.

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      Awesome! yeah I can see how disks would also be great for this

  • @hanasonder
    @hanasonder 6 місяців тому

    Ooooh amazing! I had no idea

  • @Wholelatteplans
    @Wholelatteplans 6 місяців тому

    These are cool and interesting!! Deception pass and pincushion moss look really enticing 😅

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      I couldn't resist and already put deception pass in a pen. It is so fun

  • @fountainPENdulum
    @fountainPENdulum 6 місяців тому

    I really like the look of Weeping Willow and Weathered Papyrus! I like Swatching with a glass stir stick I have. Similarly, it can be dipped in ink and used in swatching easily cleaned, no pipette needed.. I should use it more often :)

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      Weeping willow is definitely entering the rotation my next ink up. And that's so smart! Probably smoother than the crochet hook 😂

  • @TechCoven
    @TechCoven 6 місяців тому

    The crochet hook is such a great idea! So much easier to wipe/clean.

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      Laziness is a mother of invention!

  • @tattooedcat
    @tattooedcat 6 місяців тому

    Whoa! How differently they show up on Rhodia! I was so surprised to see the colors there. The weathered papyrus shows so much more pink than I’ve ever seen from it. And the Ash shows none of the chromoshading. The everlasting inks were a miss for me, so I’m interested to see what you make of them. So awesome! Thank you so much for sharing! 🤘🏼😸🧡🖋

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      I maybe put too much ink down for some, which could explain the Ash's lack of chromoshading. But also Rhodia paper definitely takes out many of the fun aspects of a lot of inks. Once I finish this pad I may be done with Rhodia...

  • @cerealnana
    @cerealnana 6 місяців тому

    I have zero of these inks! Very interesting. I love the crochet hook!

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      Haha thank you! I am so excited to see how they work in pens. Such interesting colors.

  • @tattooedcat
    @tattooedcat 6 місяців тому

    Fantastic video! I love seeing your writing samples and hearing about how you find the grinds. The Speerpoint that I got, I asked for a larger point. Needlepoint is not my thing, and he made mine an EF. I love the SIG nibs from Franklin-Christoph. They are such a forgiving grind. And I also check all my pens for reverse writing just for some line variation and use on crappy paper. My medium CSI from Mark Bacas is one of the most beautiful writers I have. And the reverse architects I have are also my favorites! Thank you so much for sharing! 🤘🏼😸🧡🖋

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      Oh good to know he can do it as an EF! I'm not sure I'd want it as a needlepoint.

  • @optimalwellnessyoga
    @optimalwellnessyoga 6 місяців тому

    I’m definitely enjoying my Speerpoint but don’t need as fine as a needlepoint so am really itching to get a reverse architect (or 4😂).

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      Honestly, didn't consider that the needlepoint would be too fine! That's a great point (ha).

  • @susie-em7341
    @susie-em7341 6 місяців тому

    I love the idea of a monthly solo adventure, accompanied only by a passport TN. Thanks so much for sharing and inspiring.

  • @julia-here
    @julia-here 6 місяців тому

    Such a great video! The journaler's nib is definitely on my wishlist; and you've definitely got me thinking more about the reverse architect for that sort of two-in-one header-and-body option! The Spearpoint may be a better fit for me personally but I don't know if I'd ever consider that before seeing your demo so definitely appreciate your thoughts here!

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      Would love to hear what you get when you do decide!

  • @ironmic9244
    @ironmic9244 6 місяців тому

    Very nice video with some food for thought. I have not yet contemplated whether to do any reverse grinds, but it is very practical as you demonstrated.

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      Two pens in one! As someone who doesn't like to have many pens inked up it makes it super useful

  • @KatiesCraftStudio
    @KatiesCraftStudio 6 місяців тому

    I'm so glad you love your nibs! Specialty nibs are the best!

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      Only problem is it's addicting. Now when I use one of my standard nibs I'm like, but what can I do to you.

    • @KatiesCraftStudio
      @KatiesCraftStudio 6 місяців тому

      @@thecloudydesk it totally is but in my experience, it passes. Not because I'm less obsessed with the nibs but because I already have most of the kinds I want and since I have them in a swappable format, I don't really find that I need many more.

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      @@KatiesCraftStudio good to know! I feel like once I have a good stash of Jowo grinds it will also help me resist new pens more because I will have ways of shaking things up and keeping my collection feeling fresh

    • @KatiesCraftStudio
      @KatiesCraftStudio 6 місяців тому

      @@thecloudydesk that has been 100% my intent too. It works... But not entirely 😝

  • @kimdujour
    @kimdujour 6 місяців тому

    I had no idea that the speerpoint is broad on the reverse. I just thought it was a needlepoint. Thank you for this sharing video. I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the perspective and cursive smooth italic.

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      So did I until someone told me about theirs! Yeah I'm going to try to rotate both of those in soon.

  • @fountainPENdulum
    @fountainPENdulum 6 місяців тому

    I've gotten a hybrid architect with a reverse ultra extra fine (originally a Sailor Zoom Nib) by Mark Bacas. Also, Medium into an Architect RT by the Nib Tailor. I think I may have preferred it the reverse manner- fine side being the normal side and the reverse side the architect. I'd like to try a Fine Architect, as I prefer finer Nibs, what may be a disadvantage is the finer the nib the less contrast or line variation between the horizontal and vertical strokes. So there's that:)

    • @thecloudydesk
      @thecloudydesk 6 місяців тому

      Yeah I had the LAMY cursive nib which I know is similar to an architect and I didn't love it. Having it on the reverse is much more enjoyable for me.