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If you look at the "least common denominator" of how we install Linux programs, it is the one common method among all distros. But what he was talking about is the fact that non-techy people don't naturally understand binary installation...it's multi-stepped, it takes some time, it's fiddly, it's like another language. MOST of the world has become very accustomed to "double-click, install" because of Windows. I don't include MacOS there because I've never used it. What I read between the lines is that Linus wishes there was one universal Linux package format that was easy for everyone from Grandma to the family dog to install and run. He was lamenting the mess that it all is because of the difficulty for tech-challenged people. Or, at least that's what I got from it.

@@k.b.tidwell thanks for the clarification. I still think the binary installation is the way to go. We just need to make a universal Linux package (like xz-utils) that abstracts all the technicalities away from it. You know like we have gdebi for .deb packages. I feel it can be done.

@@benotisanchez5583 that's really the dream of all the different packages we have now, but the problem is everyone thinks theirs is the best. 🙄

Yup. That's one thing I had to learn after getting a lot of confused and annoyed people emailing me. And I mean... even I think it's annoying. And I used to write the guides for my software. And the worst thing... it's not even that hard, which is obvious, I guess.

...depending on what you use your computer for. for example, people just writing text documents and emails or playing their games on steam will have a worse performance on windows.

...the manuals of the hardware people buy usually mention how you get into the bios.

I've been saying we should just get the gobohide on all distros and have a program's folder then use appimage as an installer.

? Is this about the way that people pronounce it or about the fact that Linux itself isn't the operating system?

Ubuntu apps dont work on debian shitnux mint.. you could run a snap or run studio one deb on mint and if it works out let us know..

@@UbuntuPersonNoMint Ubuntu native ones made by Canonical don't, yeah. The rest does. And I don't exactly get your point about snaps... you can add snaps as "easily" in Linux Mint as you can remove them from Ubuntu.

@@UbuntuPersonNoMint Flatpak works out of the box in Mint, and you can install Snap, but I prefer deb packages . I am old school. It´s perfectly fine that distros are not all the same, if that were the case, we would all still be using Red Hat.

@@RegenTinte80800 even if you add snaps.. just run studio one and tell me if it works in mint.. stop lying to people, linux mint is dated and stuck in the past the ui still looks like 1998 and it doesn't even have wayland support. Cinnamon is a redundant de and mint is redundant too. They can't make a good distro because if they could you'd have lmde as linux mint not depending on canonical to make a noob friendly distro for them that then doesn't even run all of ubuntus apps because it doesn't support Ubuntu app format and modern technologies that some apps rely on..but as I said you're free to provee wrong by running studio one demo in linux mint and showing us your progress.

@@MikkoSilvennoinenbittix some distros are pointless and cause unnecessary fragmentation. You praise trash distros that can't even stand on their own two feet.

It can with Proton.

@@RegenTinte80800 Many play well with proton, but many do not. I run linux with a 1080TI which has more than enough power other than ray tracing.

That will work out when we get rid of 95 percent of distros. We don't need anything beyond arch,Ubuntu,gentoo and rhel. The rest of the distros are pointless

@@UbuntuPersonNoMint Sure... Talking about Ubuntu... Ever heard of Debian and Linux Mint? Debian is better than both of them and Linux Mint is just the better version of Ubuntu, despite not even being made by Canonical.

@@RegenTinte80800 I've been using Linux for 17 years and mint is In no where close to as good as Ubuntu I've recommended Ubuntu to many people and it works out of the box for everyone I've told to install it or installed it for. Not always the same case for mint or debian..debian is even worse leave debian for servers not desktops. I've used mint for a year before and it was a painful year. It only stayed with me because I had a bad Internet connection and mint had codecs loaded onto the iso nothing else special about it..if you're convinced mint is better than Ubuntu why don't you tell the devs to abandone mint and stick to lmde? If they deserve to exist they'll have lmde as good as Ubuntu in no time.

...what alternatives do you know about that we don't? Talking about the big ones: macOS is still bigger than Linux Distros and Windows is by far bigger. So unless I understood your comment wrong, Linux Desktop still has no chance to compete with Mac or Windows.

There is nothing in Linux that I cannot do or better in Windows. In 35 years of IT support over various industries, I've never run into one instance where Windows could not do the job and needed Linux, unless it was hardware running Linux. There is no tool in Linux that matches Total Commander which is my replacement Windows file Explorer and Swiss army knife of excellence. In Windows, I can read/write/edit ext3/ext4 based files and partitions and copy/move/examine Linux all day with a simple driver install. There is no Linux tool that matches Windows based Wireshark. Microsoft including Linux into Windows is making having Linux by itself moot. We can even run Nmap (as old as it is) on Windows. Until Linux can provide these benefits, I'll continue to sell the world Windows machines. Note: Don't get me wrong, I think Linux itself is awesome and would be my OS of choice, but it's too fragmented in distribution and application underdeveloped. Not to forget, I did install it 2 decades ago in two distributions, one had a 1990 like interface, the other was a hackers toolbox (which I need for my job) and it crashed repeatedly during boot up. Later, the source programmer fixed the boot up issue but by then I'm gone.

@@SpaceCadet4Jesus Windows is still better as far as features and such go... but you did say that you installed Linux 2 decades ago. Things have changed quite a lot since then.

@@RegenTinte80800 thanks for the response. UA-cam must have thought that my comment was offensive cuz they deleted it. UA-cam's been riding me hard lately.

Computers were never meant to be hard to use, where everyone must use it at the binary/hexadecimal level. Nor by ancient obtuse commands like a teletype terminal. Computers are tools to simplify life, to extend our reaches into the unknown in simple ways for the user. Computers are meant to do the heavy work we as humans have already experienced in life. From programming to use it, we've progressed from binary, to hexadecimal, to command line, to macros, to GUI, into AI assistance. There's even more on the horizon that computers will do to assist humans with non physical input. Some people will ONLY enjoy the obtuse command line, some the GUI, some??, but the regular fellow just wants to use a simple tool for a bigger job that's taking his mental focus. They shouldn't need to use something that hasn't packaged up all the hard work in a simple to use tool, not when we have computers that are keeping up with desires.

linus deals with the kernel which is distro agnostic

The community is at fault for not agreeing on a standard interface.

Dude he just makes the kernel google, rh, canonical etc make their own package managers

@@UbuntuPersonNoMint that's exactly my point.

@@aiexzs that's what im getting at. That is a choice he made. You solve those problems at kernel level, if not you have 100+ different solutions.

Yes. The Linux Community is extremely toxic, especially when you reach the Arch Community.

As a longtime windows user, I have experienced your #2 and #5 points, the other points not so much. But as an explanation of both legitimate points, #2: Windows is normally allowing the load of a ton of overly active 3rd party background apps. If you install a fresh copy of non-OEM hardware provided Windows, the CPU usage hangs around 2% usage. Windows is a more active OS in its checks and balances on its own registry when not even touched, hence the power draw. If you were to install Windows-S, you'd get much better battery life, but who wants to do that? Lol. Windows does have features to ameliorate the problem somewhat, but I also feel laptop manufacturers put the smallest battery possible in. Although in truth, power draw is a much more complex issue than I've elaborated here. #5 Windows XP and Windows 7 has some minor icon repositioning, unlike the greater changes occurring today. The Windows operating system is currently in a state of transition. Old UI is being replaced with new UI and the furniture is going to move around a bit until it finds Its home. Your desktop icons and your pinned icons to the start menu should not change though. I had wished that Microsoft would have paid more time/attention to changing the control panel UI into the new settings UI, and and decide how the new settings UI will look. As a seasoned IT Pro, even I get lost in the settings because their positions change over updates. But I have developed a lot of patience and that makes up for Microsoft shortcomings. Plus I've always used the third party file manager which never changes since XP, so I'm always ahead of the curve. But yes, it's a real issue and it does affect some people much more than it does others. Eventually the transition will be over and things will become stable but by then we'll have added a few more things. Progress is always a state of flux.

I know, Linus is a younger trimmer guy.

debloat it, lots of foss tools

Are you calling Telemetry data spying? It's written in the Microsoft agreement that you supposedly read and agreed to in installing the operating system. Real spying doesn't alert you to its presence or intentions.

Isn't there Linux distribution that you can install Steam on?

@@SpaceCadet4Jesus I've installed Steam on Ubuntu, no issues !