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How do we know how to use once-forgotten writing systems?
How do we know how to use once-forgotten writing systems?
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Alphabet evolution, part 3: from the Iron Age to the present (one letter at a time)
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Alphabet evolution, part 3: from the Iron Age to the present (one letter at a time)
Alphabet evolution, part 2: from the Iron Age to the present (general patterns)
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Alphabet evolution, part 2: from the Iron Age to the present (general patterns)
Alphabet evolution, part 1: from Phoenician to Ancient Greek & Aramaic
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Alphabet evolution, part 1: from Phoenician to Ancient Greek & Aramaic

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  • @isancicramon0926
    @isancicramon0926 7 днів тому

    Excellent video. Just a detail 18:24 on cyrillic < У >, Slavic/proto-Slavic wouldn't have had a need for greek < Y > (sounded /y/) as you mention in 18:40, and it hadn't shifted to /i/ yet. It is thought that it originally represented the greek digraph < OY ~ ου > (sounded /u/), which was written ȣ (capital < Ȣ >) at that time. This explains the slight slant on the downward branch of < У >, which was originally the lower < o > in < Ȣ >.

  • @isancicramon0926
    @isancicramon0926 7 днів тому

    This video has no business being that good.

  • @mindyschaper
    @mindyschaper 7 днів тому

    This series is amazing! Listening to it twice. I love it so much. I grew up with English and Hebrew and then learnt Russian, so it's really interesting to me to see the history of each letter. I forsee learning to read Greek and Arabic to be faster now that I know how the letter changes happened. I'm going to listen to this a few times till I have it memorized. Love it!

  • @slithdigital
    @slithdigital 29 днів тому

    I think in the mayan script why they have weird looking stuff on their heads was probably depicting the other side of the icon like the with fish it looks like weird hat but it maybe a fin

  • @vampyricon7026
    @vampyricon7026 29 днів тому

    A very good video! Sad that this isn't more watched I did see a decipherment attempt on Rongorongo: Albert Davletshin's 2022 THE SCRIPT OF RAPA NUI (EASTER ISLAND) IS LOGOSYLLABIC, THE LANGUAGE IS EAST POLYNESIAN: EVIDENCE FROM CROSS-READINGS. I wonder if you have any comment on that?

  • @m102142
    @m102142 Місяць тому

    Is the first letter A and last O?

  • @ime3126
    @ime3126 Місяць тому

    Thing start in Egypt not phenicia

  • @iainb1577
    @iainb1577 Місяць тому

    I wish you would slow down your narration so us old and young and middling folk could take it all in better. Great information but did you have a bus to catch?

  • @__mader__
    @__mader__ Місяць тому

    Please, make the video for the Fuþark!

  • @__mader__
    @__mader__ Місяць тому

    THANK YOU!

  • @kulwinderkaur609
    @kulwinderkaur609 Місяць тому

    Kindly improve the voice quality and slow down the speed a bit, a humble request

  • @achmed6704
    @achmed6704 2 місяці тому

    Need you back soon, desperately waiting to throw my money at your Patreon

  • @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool
    @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool 3 місяці тому

    And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 If you’re in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna, Urcna, or a canrc church (These are conservative and actual Presbyterian/Reformed churches) If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms Lutheran church If you’re Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC. (Different from the Church of Scotland) If you’re English I recommend the Evangelical Presbyterian Church in England & Wales and the Free Church of England (Different from the Church of England) Also online you can look up church finders for each of the groups, it will show you locations And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near. -Hebrews 10:24-25

  • @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool
    @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool 3 місяці тому

    And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 If you’re in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna, Urcna, or a canrc church (These are conservative and actual Presbyterian/Reformed churches) If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms Lutheran church If you’re Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC. (Different from the Church of Scotland) If you’re English I recommend the Evangelical Presbyterian Church in England & Wales and the Free Church of England (Different from the Church of England) Also online you can look up church finders for each of the groups, it will show you locations And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near. -Hebrews 10:24-25

  • @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool
    @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool 3 місяці тому

    And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 If you’re in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna, Urcna, or a canrc church (These are conservative and actual Presbyterian/Reformed churches) If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms Lutheran church If you’re Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC. (Different from the Church of Scotland) If you’re English I recommend the Evangelical Presbyterian Church in England & Wales and the Free Church of England (Different from the Church of England) Also online you can look up church finders for each of the groups, it will show you locations And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near. -Hebrews 10:24-25

  • @EgyptoAlphaNumerics
    @EgyptoAlphaNumerics 5 місяців тому

    Re: “we don’t have an Ancient Greek document where he says: I made two letters (X and K) out of one (K), but that is what seems to have happened”. Incorrect. The Greeks did not simply copy Phoenician and change a few letters, rather they used an entirely different Egyptian alphabet platform, namely the Heliopolis 28-letter alphabet. The 22-letter in Phoenician (+) is the same as chi (X), the 24th letter in Greek, both are the birth of the cosmos letters.

  • @geniegb
    @geniegb 6 місяців тому

    Thank you fellow human. You are bringing our total knowledge forward

  • @Macieks300
    @Macieks300 6 місяців тому

    I'm looking forwards to the Voynich manuscript!

  • @Macieks300
    @Macieks300 7 місяців тому

    This is a great video and really informative. I love this approach to teaching by showing how one could come up with stuff on their own instead of just being given information. Also when I was watching I thought this video would have hundreds of thousands of views because of such high quality, not less than 300. So I hope this video blows up soon.

  • @richardstolte644
    @richardstolte644 7 місяців тому

    Wow, this is so informative. One small problem, you go too fast. I may have to watch this several times to get it all!

    • @mindyschaper
      @mindyschaper 7 днів тому

      You can always slow down the speed. I usually speed up videos on YT but here I listened to it on 1x speed.

  • @BearsThatCare
    @BearsThatCare 7 місяців тому

    The fact that I was recommended such a small video makes me think this is about to blow up

  • @sheepishly6942
    @sheepishly6942 7 місяців тому

    He's back!

  • @Antilluminati
    @Antilluminati 7 місяців тому

    This will all become redundant as AI will translate everything soon enough, probably has, but its not revealed to us.

  • @cleitonfelipe2092
    @cleitonfelipe2092 7 місяців тому

    Love your videos, I'm always happy to receive a notification from your new videos

  • @woagas
    @woagas 7 місяців тому

    Fantastic video as always. Your old Voynich manuscript video from years ago was so thorough and well done. It is one of the things that got me interested in linguistics. Any reason why you took it down? I am looking forward to your next video on it and curious if your interpretation has changed.

    • @heyheyhophop
      @heyheyhophop 7 місяців тому

      Same question, of course. Did the Illuminati reach out?

    • @MrLompo123
      @MrLompo123 6 місяців тому

      I believe he thought the treatment given was insufficient/unclear or otherwise not of the desired quality. If I recall, he had said he will replace them with new videos about the Voynich manuscript and the work being done in that direction.

  • @sdbattt
    @sdbattt 7 місяців тому

    Amazing video, deserves more views. Thanks for your evolution of the alphabet video: it was a game changer for a school project. Thanks!

  • @NTxC
    @NTxC 7 місяців тому

    Great video, Volder. Thanks for uploading. Can't wait for the follow-up video on the Voynich.

  • @altrifrancobolli
    @altrifrancobolli 7 місяців тому

    Christmas has come early, y’all

  • @CristiNeagu
    @CristiNeagu 7 місяців тому

    Oh wow. Welcome back.

  • @nikolaytsankov9066
    @nikolaytsankov9066 7 місяців тому

    Do you ever intend to cover Linear A?

  • @EgorFrade
    @EgorFrade 7 місяців тому

    2 years I've been waiting for you to solve the Voynich manuscript. (Maybe I'm confused, but you used to have videos about the Voynich manuscript )

    • @woagas
      @woagas 7 місяців тому

      Yeah he had an excellent video on that a few years ago. I wish it was still up.

  • @EchoHeo
    @EchoHeo Рік тому

    the "flags" of hebrew can be generalized to the concept of serifs in general, which are meant to empasize stroke ends

  • @backupaccount8156
    @backupaccount8156 Рік тому

    Aby bew work on the Voynich manuscript bro? Your theory seemed feasible to me, but as it applied to labels mainly and not the rest, I always thought the rest of the stuff was somehow enciphered version of the labelese language, or maybe the signal was concealed in voynich. Would love to see your take on it now ❤

  • @tinfoilhomer909
    @tinfoilhomer909 Рік тому

    Thai script has similar "flags" on the letters!

  • @aaronmyers6686
    @aaronmyers6686 Рік тому

    I know it's been a year since this episode, and I think you said that you were only gonna have three episodes, but I'd love to see a fourth episode on the Indic scripts derived from Brahmi. Edit: Nevermind, didn't reach the end of the video yet! Looking forward to more videos from you.

  • @ChrisO-bq9jd
    @ChrisO-bq9jd Рік тому

    Excellent video. One thing I will say is that Thorn most likely descends from a D or Delta with a a vertical line added, and the D rune (Dagaz) probably came from a "butterfly" version of San that represented a dental affricate in some Alpine languages from whose alphabets the Runes took inspiration. Wynn probably came from a Digamma whose bars closed in on each other. And now pure speculation on my part (all the previous mentions have been noted by scholars), however I think Ihwaz came from a Z-looking version of Iota, Jera came from G given that a palatalized G in vulgar Latin often led to G being used as /j/ in Germanic languages such as old English and soft G in modern Scandinavian languages. Also, I think the Ehwaz is just an E rotated 90 degrees, while Psi most certainly gave rise to Algiz. I don't know why the Runes used Psi for Algiz, but I assume some Alpine or Italic intermediary language with a similar usage is the cause. From what I've read from scholars, Chi and Psi were just different variant forms of each other. I am not entirely certain of the origin of Cyrillic Ya, but it came from earlier Cyrillic letter "little Yus" which together with "big Yus" both came from Glagolitic, but I'm not sure Ya came from A. Likewise, I am not sure that the Soft & Hard signs (and Yat) come from E, given that their Glagolitic predecessor likely doesn't either. There is one letter you did not cover, Sampi, in early Ionic Greek (and still used as a Greek numeral) which probably came from San. Finally, I do have to say I have no idea where Ingwaz comes from, but Naudiz's shape makes me think it did not actually come from N, but who knows.

  • @xlmtap1192
    @xlmtap1192 Рік тому

    18:04, AWH COME OOOOOOOON! Thats what I came here for! Can you at least tell me what those letters where?

  • @cougarten
    @cougarten Рік тому

    Any voynich news :) ?

  • @firstaidsack
    @firstaidsack Рік тому

    I just found your channel and it's pure gold! Great work!

  • @MatthewMcVeagh
    @MatthewMcVeagh Рік тому

    Ummmm... щ? You missed it in the Shin section, then you started the ligature section at the end and I waited but it didn't come there either. :( However it is obviously a tour de force! I'll share it to attract more views.

  • @exiledhobbit1441
    @exiledhobbit1441 2 роки тому

    Maybe you'll inspire me to write a 10,000 page treatise on the differences in Eldarin, Khudzul and Quenya versus Mannish languages. Or maybe Sindarin, Nandorin an Telerin.

  • @plantkillable8371
    @plantkillable8371 2 роки тому

    This video is fantastic. Considering how consistent your script and visuals are, I am shocked this video has under 1,000 views. This is a recipe for success yet to be catalyzed!

  • @sidjoosin6549
    @sidjoosin6549 2 роки тому

    actually there is no upper lower cases in Greek or Latin (or any other) before Charlemagne decided that it would be prettier. thus all Roman inscriptions or old Greek Bible is like "IVLIVS CAESAR" ( U J W Y also unknown). BUT - there were cursive and non-cursive one for walls another for papyri or pergament (λαμβδα ΛΑΜΒΔΑ)

  • @sidjoosin6549
    @sidjoosin6549 2 роки тому

    russians say they don't need "I" letter anymore instead 2 different letters IO as Ю and Ы as ЬI - try to select - one of them is solid ы other is ь and i it was in more logic times letter "Ерь" (Yer')- Ь, basically it was 'ayn ع as close as arians can 'ayn.

    • @sidjoosin6549
      @sidjoosin6549 2 роки тому

      also something known by noone - Cyrillic basically Coptic, not developed from Greek or from Coptic but basically was exactly Coptic ⲁϭⲅⲇⲉⲩⲝⲏⲑⲓⲕⲗⲙⲛⲯⲟⲡⲋϥⲣⲱⲧϧϯϩⲍⲭⲥⲫϣϫ

  • @sidjoosin6549
    @sidjoosin6549 2 роки тому

    in Classic Arabic alphabet there is no dot differences between خ ح. ع غ ص ض ظ ط ذ د basically not such letters exist, first Quran Manuscripts and most works of theology and science don't have such dots (rasm script) thus such letters don't have any basis there is difference betwen ر ز ش س ج ح

    • @sidjoosin6549
      @sidjoosin6549 2 роки тому

      and ک was written basically as ܒ.

    • @sidjoosin6549
      @sidjoosin6549 2 роки тому

      alif was written not as ا but L thus لا produced . i would show this on paper but may be you understand - I recommend to look at oldest Quran - it written in Hejazi script, now called Birmingham Quran , in honour of city which gladly welcomed stolen Sacred text, dating to Prophet time

  • @sidjoosin6549
    @sidjoosin6549 2 роки тому

    Ψψ = ش Ξξ = س Σσ = ص imho

  • @sidjoosin6549
    @sidjoosin6549 2 роки тому

    tell people why name "Nuh" was written as "ηοε", wrongly pronounced as [no:æ], and by miracle return to "Noah" in English

  • @sidjoosin6549
    @sidjoosin6549 2 роки тому

    How Greek letters are formed? Take thin paper, write normal Aramaic abcad (from right to left), then take this paper and turn other side - so you can see through paper your "Alif" now on the left, as soon as paper is thin, and what you wrote right to the left becomes kind of mirror image and written left to the right. your Aramaic letters become kind a like Greek. Thus shapes of Greek and Latin letters formed.

  • @sidjoosin6549
    @sidjoosin6549 2 роки тому

    Haven't seen video about writing systems with IQ > IQ in abcd, you are first, İ am very glad. Phoenician alphabet is a myth, they say first Phoenician writing found in 2022, but it is also doubtful. Phoenician alphabet is Aramaic. Greek scholars had no debate about Homerian term "Aremboi" as Aram/Arabs, Strabo even included term Armenia, in Arab/Aram , stating that they Armenians, Arameans, Arabs live in 3 different clima in but have one language and their motherland is Mesopotamia, were they live now (Strabo's now)

  • @zafiroblue05
    @zafiroblue05 2 роки тому

    Fantastic video - so comprehensive. Would love to see you return to Voynich!