I lived in Dona Ana for 9 years. Every morning I would look at the mountains and just think about the activity that they have been. I had the Dona Ana’s on the east, and the dinasour trackways on the west. Anytime driving through town, you could see the Organ mountain from almost every vantage point. The Organ Mountains stand unique and majestic over las Cruces. Just looking at them sparks the imagination. Love the area. Love the history. Thanks for exploring the area and sharing the history. I will definitely check out more of your videos.
Don't forget the FOOD! When it cools off I will be heading that way for some outings and while there eating as much as possible and spending time in the best used bookstore in the region: Coas Books.
You are doing just fine. I don't let negative comments continue on my site. If they don't like what I do, they don't have to watch. There are bots and people who are paid to ruin people's day on our social media sites, to encourage hateful behavior to further divide us. It's not worth responding to negative posts. Do what you do. I find your videos interesting. Thank You for sharing with us 😊.
Been a subscriber for a while...great stuff! Moved here 9 years ago and I absolutely am loving it here in the Hatch area and love learning about the rich history of the surrounding area which includes all that you are into. I like to hunt wild game and it's really hard while out hiking in to stands to keep my attention on game, I always am catching myself looking for interesting rocks or signs of history along the way. My wife and I always come home with our pockets full of rocks, I guess that way, at least I can say I got something!
Ahhh, there's a story about a cave of gold in the hills West of Hatch in the book of folklore by Ruth Tolman. Guys found gold coins but came back to town, got sick and died! Also, long silver bars recovered from the Uvas were supposedly used to build one of the larger two-story homes in town, south of Sparky's and back near the river, IIRC. Hunting up around Tierra Blanca would give you opportunity for game, historical ruins, and old gold and silver mines. I think the TorC rock club has a claim at Palm Park just across the interstate to your East. Lots of quartz and maybe barite and lots of cutting chert and some agate. Glad you are liking it down there!
Actual geological knowledge. Dangerous to us wide-eyed legend enthusiasts. Though, hoping someone will do their Masters on the unnamed pink granite in the Caballo mountains someday - I think it may have something to do with the poorly-studied gold deposits in those mountains. Unless of course that has already been done and I am not aware? - My knowledge is going off on old OFR from NMT.
Plz don’t let the Hater punks ruin it for the people who do truly appreciate all your efforts Sir! I can’t get out that often and live thru yours and a few others videos. Also, since I cannot get out that much, y’all’s videos help me target areas to go to rather than waste a lot of my time driving around searching for places to go. Although, I do that still as well. I truly appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge. I still have something that I need you to see. How can a person reach you? I think you will find this very interesting. Tks Clint.
Thanks for the encouraging words, Clint. I am glad that you roam around - some of the most interesting things I have found or seen have come from just being out and about. I rarely go anywhere with a sign, parking lot, or trail name. My email is in the "About" button or put this together avadams at lostadamsgold dot com.
Thanks Clarence. Get a hiking buddy and get out there. Sometimes going slow lets you see stuff in plain sight, so age can be an advantage. I see old trails and roads all the time going 70 mph down the interstate. There's history right on the side of the road. One of the arrastres I know about down by Anthony Texas is 300' from I-25 off an exit. Good luck!
Yup, Cox is a name down that way for sure. Bet it was a bit greener in the 80's. It sure was dry when I was down there in the 2000's, but some little springs kept running anyways - quite amazing. Speaking of springs: if you were on the ranch right up against WSMR HQ, then that's the area of "Spirit Springs" that Dunham mentions. I think San Nicolas Springs was to the north of what is now 70. That is on a lot of old maps.
@@lostadamsgold yes, those tiny shaded spring oasis’s were a welcome reprieve from the summer heat. I always find it fascinating to think that many many ancient’s took rest and refreshment in the same place as I.
Interesting country with a rich history. I grew up in southeastern ND. That Laurentide icesheet planed us off pretty flat back during the last ice age so I appreciate hilly and mountainous places. Don't get me wrong. I love ND and that glacier left some beautiful places but it's a long walk to see a mountain.
Mountains are pretty and have their share of secrets and of course minerals. Often, I find a lot more signs of human activity and interesting things in more practical terrain - people could not afford to waste calories getting selfies on 14-ers before a couple of generations ago. Mountains are fairly impractical terrain in which to operate. I have not been to ND or SD as an adult. Hoping to get up that way sometime. In the non-Winter of course!
Cool, that's about as far away as I live now. Make sure to check land status of the area before you go. The Caballos are a bit closer and there's a lot more roads to drive on. San Mateos may be worth checking out, too. I don't have a lot of specific stories from them, but there's gold there and supposedly it was not prospected as much due to it being an Apache stronghold.
People find can of gold coins in their backyard and famous paintings at garage sales. The thing is, you could search your whole life and find nothing super valuable and others may stumble upon a virtual fortune by accident. Better enjoy the journey. Getting out there yields lots of "treasure" in many forms - health, memories, pictures, rockhound type stuff, etc. - so it is WAY better than the couch, by any metric.
If you have more details about these treasure stories. I would be interested in listening. There is a fella doing videos on a book called "Tales of the Caballos". I have quite enjoyed listening to those videos. Would like to see the same kind of treatment given to Organ Mountains if the stories are there?
Yeah, Mr. White's relative I think. Good stuff, I have watched all of them. I will get back to the Organ's again sometime. A good book is Arthur L. Campa's Treasure of the Sangre de Christos. I know there is at least one Organ tale in there. Thanks for checking out the channel!
An interesting guy. Definitely kept people entertained on TreasureNet for years on end. Showed him a few things in the 'Cruces area some years back. Wish I knew how to sort the truth of what he knew from the entertaining embellishments.
@@rushdawg7282 I think that a map Roger claimed came from his dad has a turtle shown, but that is maybe in off-limits land status. Roger was always suggesting to pushy people that they go places where they'd likely get in trouble of some sort - hah.
I suppose there could be. That name gets assigned to a number of different stories. I do not have any information about that one. Nevada is very mineralized - lots of mines. However, it was not as traveled as other regions such as California, Arizona, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, etc. I'd start by looking up what old Spanish Missions may have been established in Nevada.
Not sure, but maybe I mumbled. Can you tell me the time index and I will check and see? "Varas" are a unit of ancient measure. Problem is, Varas could be different lengths in different regions and at different times in history.
Very interesting. Will do. I heard there was a fortress in the pass at one point going over to WSMR, but I doubt it would have been large enough to have constituted a castle. Old maps show a fortress over on the Rio just south of Rincon, but I don't know of any ruins that match that. There's a neat little fort with gun ports in Palomas Gap up in the Caballos. I think that may have been a toll road at one point.
I know there's gold somewhere around Bishops Cap, but that may be the Organs. I bet there some gold in the Franlinks, but maybe minor. Silver seems more likely. Lost Padre Mine is placed there, but I have seen it on an old map far to the East - not sure what range that would be. You introduced me to the Hand of God sign - and there is one at Vic Peak. That kind of sign may have more to do with convenient landmark for burying refined goodies, rather than a mineral deposit.
@@lostadamsgold while going over transmountain......i see signs that day no trespassing coz the army owns it. What would happen if someone were to go hiking up in there and get caught?
@@SunCityOffroadRecovery Do not trespass on the military ranges. Best case: you get charged. Worst case: you step on some UXO and end up maimed or gone. Use OnX or another map resource to check land boundaries. Some areas of the mountains are open, others are part of Bliss, IIRC.
Yeah, I got you. Problem is, who was Mrs. (landholder) Ana? There's no historical record I know of. Old maps show the Dona Ana mountains originally as the Cerros Robledos (Robledo Hills) which are on the East with the Sierra Robledo (Robledo Mountains) - same as present day - to the West. Pedro Robledo was killed when they camped near Radium Springs in the first entrada. Just like the Fra Cristobales were named for the nose and profile of the Friar who accompanied them. So, since a lot of New Mexico place names are the same as in Spain (Aragon is a good one, but so many others) then it makes sense to me that since there's no Mrs. Ana that I could ever find, that it was a (perhaps later Anglo) corruption of Donana, which is a dry region in southern Spain.
@@lostadamsgold Google says Dona Ana Robledo (1604-1680)Her actual name was Ana Gomez Robledo, and she was born in San Gabriel in 1604. She married Francisco Gomez, “who held every office of importance in New Mexico during his lifetime.” Many people referred to her as Dona Ana because of her age, stately manner, and knowledge.Mar 29, 2021
@@luisasantarosa7927 What!? Not sure how I have missed that over the years. I stand corrected, and it is interesting that her last name is Robledo. There must have been more than one Robledo on the first entrada, because Pedro Robledo died on that first journey north as far as I know. There's even a roadside sign - and I _lived_ in Dona Ana for several years. Sheesh. Must have spent too much time blazing past the sign in an effort to stomp around in the hills. I will eventually get around to making a video about Ben Brown's hole and possible ties to El Chato. Thanks for the correction!
@ronniejohn2237 Even better. In old Mexico, I guess the lineages and mixtures and social status were quite complicated. But from what I read, it pales in comparison to Brazil and that region. So many different cultures mixed, and a huge variation in terrain and lifestyles. I read an old book "Seven Keys to Brazil" a while back.
I lived in Dona Ana for 9 years. Every morning I would look at the mountains and just think about the activity that they have been.
I had the Dona Ana’s on the east, and the dinasour trackways on the west.
Anytime driving through town, you could see the Organ mountain from almost every vantage point.
The Organ Mountains stand unique and majestic over las Cruces. Just looking at them sparks the imagination.
Love the area. Love the history. Thanks for exploring the area and sharing the history. I will definitely check out more of your videos.
Don't forget the FOOD! When it cools off I will be heading that way for some outings and while there eating as much as possible and spending time in the best used bookstore in the region: Coas Books.
You are doing just fine. I don't let negative comments continue on my site. If they don't like what I do, they don't have to watch. There are bots and people who are paid to ruin people's day on our social media sites, to encourage hateful behavior to further divide us. It's not worth responding to negative posts. Do what you do. I find your videos interesting. Thank You for sharing with us 😊.
Thanks Grandma. Positive encouragement helps a lot! Glad you are finding some entertainment here.
Thanks for taking your time to share with us. You rock!
Been a subscriber for a while...great stuff! Moved here 9 years ago and I absolutely am loving it here in the Hatch area and love learning about the rich history of the surrounding area which includes all that you are into. I like to hunt wild game and it's really hard while out hiking in to stands to keep my attention on game, I always am catching myself looking for interesting rocks or signs of history along the way. My wife and I always come home with our pockets full of rocks, I guess that way, at least I can say I got something!
Ahhh, there's a story about a cave of gold in the hills West of Hatch in the book of folklore by Ruth Tolman. Guys found gold coins but came back to town, got sick and died! Also, long silver bars recovered from the Uvas were supposedly used to build one of the larger two-story homes in town, south of Sparky's and back near the river, IIRC. Hunting up around Tierra Blanca would give you opportunity for game, historical ruins, and old gold and silver mines. I think the TorC rock club has a claim at Palm Park just across the interstate to your East. Lots of quartz and maybe barite and lots of cutting chert and some agate. Glad you are liking it down there!
Awesome dude. I grew up in El Paso and even got both my degrees in geology from UTEP. Very familiar with this. Thanks for sharing.
Actual geological knowledge. Dangerous to us wide-eyed legend enthusiasts. Though, hoping someone will do their Masters on the unnamed pink granite in the Caballo mountains someday - I think it may have something to do with the poorly-studied gold deposits in those mountains. Unless of course that has already been done and I am not aware? - My knowledge is going off on old OFR from NMT.
@@lostadamsgold I am unfamiliar with this pink granite - but is it the same age as the Mogollon or is it older?
Rest in peace Snow! Thanks for the videos. Roger snow had some very interesting things to say about those mountains
He’s still alive
Thanks, for the video.
Plz don’t let the Hater punks ruin it for the people who do truly appreciate all your efforts Sir! I can’t get out that often and live thru yours and a few others videos. Also, since I cannot get out that much, y’all’s videos help me target areas to go to rather than waste a lot of my time driving around searching for places to go.
Although, I do that still as well. I truly appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge.
I still have something that I need you to see. How can a person reach you? I think you will find this very interesting.
Tks Clint.
Thanks for the encouraging words, Clint. I am glad that you roam around - some of the most interesting things I have found or seen have come from just being out and about. I rarely go anywhere with a sign, parking lot, or trail name. My email is in the "About" button or put this together avadams at lostadamsgold dot com.
Your a cool person I would love to travel with you, I might be a little slower I’m 76 but I like what your doing, love your videos, god bless.
Thanks Clarence. Get a hiking buddy and get out there. Sometimes going slow lets you see stuff in plain sight, so age can be an advantage. I see old trails and roads all the time going 70 mph down the interstate. There's history right on the side of the road. One of the arrastres I know about down by Anthony Texas is 300' from I-25 off an exit. Good luck!
Interesting history! I was up in the eastern Organs quite a bit working as a Cowboy for Rob and Murn Cox back in the 80’s.
Yup, Cox is a name down that way for sure. Bet it was a bit greener in the 80's. It sure was dry when I was down there in the 2000's, but some little springs kept running anyways - quite amazing. Speaking of springs: if you were on the ranch right up against WSMR HQ, then that's the area of "Spirit Springs" that Dunham mentions. I think San Nicolas Springs was to the north of what is now 70. That is on a lot of old maps.
@@lostadamsgold yes, those tiny shaded spring oasis’s were a welcome reprieve from the summer heat. I always find it fascinating to think that many many ancient’s took rest and refreshment in the same place as I.
Great content dude. Thanks for your work. 👍☘️
Thanks for being interested. I love this stuff!
I think it's great thanks for the information
Great Vids keep'em commin!
Thanks. You have a huge back catalog. I got some viewing to do!
@@lostadamsgold You better get busy! ha ha ha. Glad you are enjoying thank you.
Interesting country with a rich history. I grew up in southeastern ND. That Laurentide icesheet planed us off pretty flat back during the last ice age so I appreciate hilly and mountainous places. Don't get me wrong. I love ND and that glacier left some beautiful places but it's a long walk to see a mountain.
Mountains are pretty and have their share of secrets and of course minerals. Often, I find a lot more signs of human activity and interesting things in more practical terrain - people could not afford to waste calories getting selfies on 14-ers before a couple of generations ago. Mountains are fairly impractical terrain in which to operate. I have not been to ND or SD as an adult. Hoping to get up that way sometime. In the non-Winter of course!
Good video! Nice job! I’m only 3 hours north so the hunt is on!
Cool, that's about as far away as I live now. Make sure to check land status of the area before you go. The Caballos are a bit closer and there's a lot more roads to drive on. San Mateos may be worth checking out, too. I don't have a lot of specific stories from them, but there's gold there and supposedly it was not prospected as much due to it being an Apache stronghold.
Thanks AV!
NP, hope you enjoy. Get out there and find some stuff!
I'm going to be out there! 100%
Pretty cool stuff. Has anyone found any treasures or is it impossible?
People find can of gold coins in their backyard and famous paintings at garage sales. The thing is, you could search your whole life and find nothing super valuable and others may stumble upon a virtual fortune by accident. Better enjoy the journey. Getting out there yields lots of "treasure" in many forms - health, memories, pictures, rockhound type stuff, etc. - so it is WAY better than the couch, by any metric.
If you have more details about these treasure stories. I would be interested in listening. There is a fella doing videos on a book called "Tales of the Caballos". I have quite enjoyed listening to those videos. Would like to see the same kind of treatment given to Organ Mountains if the stories are there?
Yeah, Mr. White's relative I think. Good stuff, I have watched all of them. I will get back to the Organ's again sometime. A good book is Arthur L. Campa's Treasure of the Sangre de Christos. I know there is at least one Organ tale in there. Thanks for checking out the channel!
I’ve known Roger for 25 years!!!
An interesting guy. Definitely kept people entertained on TreasureNet for years on end. Showed him a few things in the 'Cruces area some years back. Wish I knew how to sort the truth of what he knew from the entertaining embellishments.
@@lostadamsgold I know where turtle rock is!!! We need to sit down and have a chat over some coffee soon. I live in las cruces.
@@rushdawg7282 I think that a map Roger claimed came from his dad has a turtle shown, but that is maybe in off-limits land status. Roger was always suggesting to pushy people that they go places where they'd likely get in trouble of some sort - hah.
@@lostadamsgold he was always full of adventure!!!
Isn't there a lost padre mine near area 51?
I suppose there could be. That name gets assigned to a number of different stories. I do not have any information about that one. Nevada is very mineralized - lots of mines. However, it was not as traveled as other regions such as California, Arizona, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, etc. I'd start by looking up what old Spanish Missions may have been established in Nevada.
Did you say Viragate as a measurement??
Not sure, but maybe I mumbled. Can you tell me the time index and I will check and see? "Varas" are a unit of ancient measure. Problem is, Varas could be different lengths in different regions and at different times in history.
@lostadamsgold Viragates are as well..i think i misunderstood what you said..7:17 i tjink you were talking about a gaited horse...not measuring
Please check out the book 'Flight of Passage' by Rinker Buck. Read pages 265 to 272. A castle was supposedly seen in the mountains.
Very interesting. Will do. I heard there was a fortress in the pass at one point going over to WSMR, but I doubt it would have been large enough to have constituted a castle. Old maps show a fortress over on the Rio just south of Rincon, but I don't know of any ruins that match that. There's a neat little fort with gun ports in Palomas Gap up in the Caballos. I think that may have been a toll road at one point.
Do any of ya'll know about a "hand of god" treasure site in the Franklin Mountains? Also why do they say there ain't no gold in the Franklin's?
I know there's gold somewhere around Bishops Cap, but that may be the Organs. I bet there some gold in the Franlinks, but maybe minor. Silver seems more likely. Lost Padre Mine is placed there, but I have seen it on an old map far to the East - not sure what range that would be. You introduced me to the Hand of God sign - and there is one at Vic Peak. That kind of sign may have more to do with convenient landmark for burying refined goodies, rather than a mineral deposit.
@@lostadamsgold while going over transmountain......i see signs that day no trespassing coz the army owns it. What would happen if someone were to go hiking up in there and get caught?
@@SunCityOffroadRecovery Do not trespass on the military ranges. Best case: you get charged. Worst case: you step on some UXO and end up maimed or gone. Use OnX or another map resource to check land boundaries. Some areas of the mountains are open, others are part of Bliss, IIRC.
Doña Ana means
mrs.Ana Doña is Mrs. its what you call a marrid woman and Ana was her name
Yeah, I got you. Problem is, who was Mrs. (landholder) Ana? There's no historical record I know of. Old maps show the Dona Ana mountains originally as the Cerros Robledos (Robledo Hills) which are on the East with the Sierra Robledo (Robledo Mountains) - same as present day - to the West. Pedro Robledo was killed when they camped near Radium Springs in the first entrada. Just like the Fra Cristobales were named for the nose and profile of the Friar who accompanied them. So, since a lot of New Mexico place names are the same as in Spain (Aragon is a good one, but so many others) then it makes sense to me that since there's no Mrs. Ana that I could ever find, that it was a (perhaps later Anglo) corruption of Donana, which is a dry region in southern Spain.
@@lostadamsgold Robledo means Oak wood this is so interesting thank you
@@lostadamsgold Google says Dona Ana Robledo (1604-1680)Her actual name was Ana Gomez Robledo, and she was born in San Gabriel in 1604. She married Francisco Gomez, “who held every office of importance in New Mexico during his lifetime.” Many people referred to her as Dona Ana because of her age, stately manner, and knowledge.Mar 29, 2021
@@luisasantarosa7927 What!? Not sure how I have missed that over the years. I stand corrected, and it is interesting that her last name is Robledo. There must have been more than one Robledo on the first entrada, because Pedro Robledo died on that first journey north as far as I know. There's even a roadside sign - and I _lived_ in Dona Ana for several years. Sheesh. Must have spent too much time blazing past the sign in an effort to stomp around in the hills. I will eventually get around to making a video about Ben Brown's hole and possible ties to El Chato. Thanks for the correction!
@ronniejohn2237 Even better. In old Mexico, I guess the lineages and mixtures and social status were quite complicated. But from what I read, it pales in comparison to Brazil and that region. So many different cultures mixed, and a huge variation in terrain and lifestyles. I read an old book "Seven Keys to Brazil" a while back.
get out walk the ranches there is treasures to be found just laying there uncovered by times and weather