Dirt Cheap, Simple Upgrade For All Leaf Spring Cars And Trucks
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- Опубліковано 24 бер 2022
- In a performance car or truck with a leaf spring rear suspension, there are multiple forces at work attempting to distort the front segments. This simple fix is an effective, universal thing that may prevent you from having to add parts or scrap the entire suspension all together.
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Hey Tony, good job on the selfie stick. If I could just make a constructive suggestion; when you "get down" to show hard to access areas (under-carriage, small details, ect.) it would be far clearer if the area/item was brightly lit from a separate source (flood light, spot light, whatever works). Keep up the good work!
Also your face doesn’t need to be in the video. No offense you can take the camera and zoom in closer on the object you are talking about ! 👍🏻as always
And you don't need your face in every frame. When you are under the car, It's okay to turn the camera around and just have the subject and your finger pointing at stuff.
Exactly what I was going to write. It was hard to see the areas under the cars.
I'm fairly certain that he's not doing what he's doing for the purpose of keeping his face in frame, but rather his face being in frame is incidental to continuously looking at the screen to see what is in frame. It looks as if he's trying to make sure that what he wants to show us is actually on the screen. He'll figure it out after he does a few videos with the new stick.
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I imagine there are plenty of people who can tell you what to do to a car to achieve certain goals, but there are few who can accurately and effectively explain why and the how behind doing these things, and even fewer who can give this type of advise every day exploring every aspect of a vehicle. You rock man!
Not only that but he gives real solutions that is normal people can afford. Usually on a show it’s buy thousands of dollars of parts and here’s how you install them. He shows us things we can actually do on a real budget.
I agree totally! I bet he’s forgotten more about vehicles than I’ll ever know!
What about braking? Wouldn't you want clamps behind the axle for braking just the way you would want them in front during acceleration?
And dude did it while working a new piece of technology.
Dude is a legend.
This man is every kid's Jewish dad in every sitcom in the 90's. It was very wholesome and entertaining.
It also helped me understand the multi-leaf structure in a leaf spring setup. Thanks for that, fella, I appreciate it.
When I made leaf spring clamps for my duramax, the first ones were nowhere near stout enough. Had to go to 1/2 steel and grade8 5/8 bolts! That did the trick, truck went 12.20@111 weighing in at 7450lbs.
Left alone without the clamps I bet you snapped a good amount of springs, I snapped a whole mess of springs on all of the stuff I’ve had with leaf springs. I used to load up the springs and actually squat the truck and smoke people off the line… but springs were consumables 😂😂😂
Somewhere in all the old DC stuff, the manuals or whatever they called them (Stage 1, do this, Stage 2, add this to above, etc), they said to do exactly this. And DC had clamps you could buy. Being young, newly married, broke, I made my own from some pieces of 3/8" plate I pulled from the scrap bin at work. Cut them into appropriate size retangles, blew some holes in them, and used some bolts and lock nuts to secure in place. Worked like a charm. And nothing hanging down like traction bars. The car was a complete sleeper.
You are one of the last few knowledgeable, experienced & wise special automotive industry people left on this planet.
I do have a question for you, if I may…
So you’ve seen the old classic cars sitting there with the lean to the driver’s side, apparently due to the years & years of the driver’s sitting weight on the left side.
Is that something that can be corrected easily corrected??
hey Tony your video from a few days ago on assembling drum brakes really helped me get the hang of it! the next day at work i ended up having to replace the parking brake shoes and hardware on both a dodge ram and then a merc c class
it was the first time it finally *just made sense* how to pry/screwdriver them all into place! and now this spring/summer im gonna be taking apart a pack of commercial (4 leaf steel instead of the regular 3 leafs) astro van leaves me and a buddy pulled from the junkyard, im gonna be putting new bushings and rubbers and repainting them to replace the sagged fibreglass monoleafs on my hand me down 94 safari, I'll definitely be on the hunt for some more clamps to add upon re-assembly 😎
biggest of thanks for helping this 23 year old make the best of wrenching for a living 👍
Another tip to combat axle wrap is get the 2nd leaf down to extend nearly to the front hanger (see gap/stepping at 7:00 ). Pick up a 2nd set of OE springs, pull the main leaf, cut the eyes off it and swap that into your original leaf pack. Also make sure the clamps you add allow the leaves to slide against each other
Dude, you are awesome. Coming from a chicago aspect, and hot rodding since 1978, i love your down to earth , get it done attitude!
You did good with the camera! Just get some floor lights for anything you are trying to show so the viewers can see it better.
Yep, need some sort of camera light or lightbar when working under the cars.
@@TD_YT066 There's no need for extra light under the car if you take the camera off your face (which is quite handsome, just not needed in every shot) and move it in close to what you're trying to show. When it's completely surrounded by dark, the camera will adjust for the dark and lighten the picture up. There'll also be no shadows as you'd get from auxiliary lighting.
Back in the day on our dirt car(‘77 Camaro) we duct taped the entire spring pack on both sides to accomplish this. In effect it mimicked a Chrysler monoleaf setup.
Are you SURE she said "Go FILM yourself" Uncle Tony? ;)
Wow! Just discovered this channel tonight. I can't stop watching! Old school cool! Thank you sir for sharing so much great knowledge with people like me who don't know much. So grateful to see someone willing to pass on their years of knowledge of these cars!
Modern vehicle owners will never know the struggle lol. This is the stuff that won races in the day
I like the part with you flailing on the floor. Great ideas for the rear springs. Thanks Unc.
I've done this before as well and it's very effective. What I'd really like to see is the effective changes it makes to the spring rate. I can say that after adding the clamps on the front of the springs that it required less shock settings.
Cool old info!
Keep it up!
Beyond all the criticism Tony I think you did a heck of a job, being that your just getting started as a photographer. The easibility of attaining perfection will come. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and please keep em' coming. CS
Tony Your Camera Work - The message is coming across 100% understandable with your camera work, its all about the info man! Camera work fine enough for me, people have got to used to the polished TV stations BS, I am nah I want to see the real stuff, stuff ups and good bits and all! Great work, this is my fav channel and camera work is all fine by me! Its all about the tips and tricks! And I just learnt something out of this video about springs!!!!
Your camera work keeps it all real man. Just like mechanic work, if ya ain’t busting yer knuckles, ya ain’t doin mechanic work. Loved it
One trick we used was on a Datsun 620 pickup the rear leaf springs had a 'helper bar' in the spring pack; using this bar and using several of the clamps stiffened the rear and took out the axle wrapping. Also look at tail shaft angle from the trans, the driveshaft angle, and the pinion angle with the car fully loaded on the ground, front end lifted, and have several camera shots of acceleration on the pinion. All these help to keep the axle wrap to a minimum.
I think you did great with the GoPro thanks again for more valuable Car tips and tricks Some of this information just gets lost in the wind never to be seen again
I had horrible axle wrap on my 84 C10 after doing an axle flip and drop shackle, since I wasn't able to use my old traction bars. After watching your video I put one clamp on each spring and it made a huge difference. Totally eliminated the axle wrap and I'm back to doing line locks in front of the house.
Tony is a national treasure… love the channel!
Im a new viewer of your channel, and i found this leaf spring clamping idea's very informative, thank you Tony & crew !
You're a well of knowledge man. I always stop what I'm doing to to watch your videos and learn something
Great job keeping what you're filming in frame, Tony. My suggestion would be to have some back lighting to eliminate the shadowing.
I watched your video and totally agree with spring clamps. I did this on my 1953 Mercury back in 1963. It picked up the height and extra stiffness.
Hey ,first time in your shop. I think you did a pretty good job with the camera on a stick! I learned about clamps on the front of the leaf spring today. Very valuable info. I did not know that! Thanks for sharing.
Hi Tony . I have had great luck using the Superior over loader springs both the 2000lb coils I installed on my 1992 tracker. Also used coils for shocks added to my 1976 f41 corvette rear replacement HD shock s . I cut a Superior overloaded spring in half for a 1974 Buick park ave installed on my vette new shock a few years back for auto cross to my surprise it stiffened the already super stiff f41 suspension but made the c3 vette ride more bearable on the street with 0 body lean . Superior also has leaf spring booster helpers you can bolt on to existing leafs which I have used on a 1997 ford truck . The good news is that in Canada I buy the add on springs very cheap . The results on my 1992 tracker with 2 added 2000 lb coil kit added to rear axel along with the stock coils in place a 4-5 inch lift and very little body lean in turns no bottoming out and better handling and looks . Bonus paid $19.99 for the 2 spring and install kit ,install time was an hour using a jack . Old school solutions ,old guys rule lolol
UT, the camera work was actually not at all bad. Not only that, but the quick and easy tip for my favorite style of suspension was excellent! Keep it up dude!
Thanks guys. The camera work was fine. I always learn something new. Keep them coming!
Great advice. I used some under leaf traction bars. Not the 'snubbers' that were popular in the 80's and 90's but the ones that attach to the frame and the bottom leaf plate. They are fairly inexpensive and while not 'tunable' like some of fancier Calvert CalTracs they get the job done. The other BIG advantage is no wheel hop when braking hard.
This is good information. I feel like this would be good for trucks and vans as well to help spread the mileage on the springs as well. You're doing better than I would with a selfie stick. Most of my stuff is done camera in hand, on tripod, or done in bit by bit sections and then edited. I'd be lost if someone handed me a selfie stick.
I enjoy the solo uncle tony cam! I could tell you you were having a blast trying to figure it out.
I love the new camera angles. You passed the test.
Thanks uncle Tony. I love listening to older wise men who been through it already. These type of men give us younger men essentially the cheat codes to this game of life. Listen up to the wise.
Lighting is important in video to see what you are pointing at Uncle Tony! Other than that, I learned something new about leaf springs! Good Job! Also, my parents owned a 66 Valiant and the car I learned to drive on, a 1969 Plymouth Valiant! My 1st car I owned was the 1967 Dodge Dart GT, but the Valiant actually was my 1st car. Maybe the 69 Chrysler w the 383 we inherited from my Grandma's friends late husband. It was awesome growing up in a Mopar family!
Yes you passed the test! This video is very helpful. I learn a lot on leaf spring thank you!
I swear everyone of your videos has some funny moments that just don't compare to any other channel. The batman angle cracked me up, I heard old the theme sound playing in my head
Pretty darn good for your first attempt Tony , that spring info was good , real good , I was going to put some old school tramp bars on my 65 valiant but now I don't 👍
Had a 59 Ford, that like all 59-64, was a tail dragger. Most people added long shackles at that back. A batter remedy is to re-arch and add two or three leaves. That's what I did. It gave the car a mild rake, and solved traction problems with my 390 ,C-6 combo.
Haha change is good. I'm just amazed your brain doesn't overheat from 2 tasks at once.
Utg the Camera angle is great and the info is great. Mopar Al your channel is great Dude. Never a dule moment with these two channels.👍👍
I feel ya ,I hate filing myself lol ! I’m definitely going to add some extra clamps to my truck springs! I never had any issues with hop with the ODa833 behind the 318. Now with a 408 and non OD trans I’m going to need that reinforcement!
Great work TONY love the show from Australia.
I've been planning the rear suspension setup for my 302 swapped Ford Ranger since before starting the project. Even though I'm not looking to make "stupid" power numbers with the build, the stock setup would wheel hop with just the original 2.3/5 speed. I've already installed new springs with an additional leaf and 3 extra clamps. On top of that, I also built a set of slapper bars that are long enough to reach the front spring eyes. Hopefully these parts will keep everything planted.
Tempted to redo a raptor..any good?
I'm putting a 77 hornet together with about 370 hp and have been wondering how to control the axle wrap . Looks like the answer is easier than I thought !
Hey Tony - you did a good job holding the camera. The only suggestion I have is to try to improve the lighting when you are showing details under, or inside the car. Thanks for what you do, dude!
Tony: don't worry, you did a good job, especially explaining leaf springs.
Thank you Tony! my dads 04 f350 is missing spring clamps in all, and both his rear leaf packs are separating and getting out of alignment. He tows alot with it and looks like a replacement rear spring has 2 alignment clamps
Uncle Tony dropping knowledge but more worried about making people proud of him, dang that's humble.
Man Tony
I've got a Nova, it's got a 375hp/425tq 327 with some head work and it's .30
It's not a power issue whatsoever it curves and performs well... freely
I just can't get it to hook and tubbing isn't in it's near future, 235/70/15 is the limit on tire size.
I'm gonna weld the diff this weekend until I finish the 12 bolt I'm building for it to hopefully take care of this issue with a 4:11 spool
This video has given me some good teachings, thanks.
Tony Your doing great! I always like your show, and ya, this leaf spring IS a help thanks
Stop 🛑! I’m scared of heights tony!! Lmao 🤣. Great 👍 video as always
Keep up the information!! Love the knowledge you have to offer.
Uncle Tony is now survivor man!
Uncle u made me smile from the start ! Al is a wicked cool guy ! U guys need to milk and have fun with what u are doing !!! We love being in your garage I’d say !
Aye Tony. Anyone who has been here more than 15mins knows what you sound like. Keep it simple and keep your head out of the picture and we’ll all concentrate on that intelligent output you give.
If anyone needs to see what you look like, start up an only fans 😂🚀
Always entertaining brother. Great spring tip. You make me feel so old though. Lol
Tony, you did ok filming this. It just takes some time to get the hang of it. You did seen super clean in the Go-Pro. It would be nice for you to address the axle placement on the leaf spring. Thanks
Thanks for the great tip on leaf springs. i will be using it on my 69 Road Runner rear suspension when I get to that point in my restoration. Thanks for the great video.
With my Dodge mud race truck I took some heavy strap like 3/8" thick 3" wide. I drilled and bolted through it with grade 8 1/2" bolts with nyloc nuts on the outside of the springs. I did that so it cold be left loose enough to let the springs slip just a little. It has lift blocks so the spring wrap is terrible. They are way stronger than that tin crap they put on from the factory. Of course my truck is abused severely and these fixed the issue. I run them on the front axle too even though it doesn't use blocks there.
You look good Tony. Great job!
You did good Tony!! KEEP UP!!
You did great uncle Tony its just like the first time with a young lady. The more time with it it will be easy
You are a fantastic teacher.
Great job Uncle Tony, a little lighting under the car would be helpful, but other than that, great video. 👍
GoPro! I'm proud of you Tony! 😊
Loved it Uncle Tony , Hotrod Jesus up in Manatoba goes on and on about . I went ahead and prescribed
You re doing great,Tony! ;)
Lol, you did great, Tony. Nice job on the selfie stick! You were almost as good as a teenage girl! Great content, great video!
Great camera work, loved the God angle. keep em comin.
Been doing that for years! He's right. 3/8 plate, 2 per side, and it works. Cheap and easy! Great channel
Hey Tony....great tip about the clamps on the leaf springs...! a low budget traction bar...! The start of the video with u & the selfie stick...was histerical....lololol...great lines throught out the whole video about fliming yourself...lmao...get a camera guy...lololol...thanks 4 all the videos...!
Yep! This is old school as it's been around for ages for mopar - both pinion snubber and move clamps to forward edge of springs.
that was some great information thank you Robert
You did a good job!! Great advice thank you!!
Rockin' those Buddy Holly specs! Rave On!
I understood everything you explained, and now I'm subbed. :)
You get an A+ Uncle Tony.
I thought I saw a wisp of smoke early in the video, but I didn't see the butt until 5:40! Multi Tasking UT! I'm proud of you already! Love the Ricky Bobby reference too!
You guys are doing fine with the camera. Good info, too.
Good job filming! Whats your thoughts about slapper bars with axle over spring? Gremlins are a little light on the ass and don't hook well.
Mike maier Inc makes leafs with this in mind for mustang/ falcons. Really great guy with cool stuff
I remember the old guy at work. Back in the day he said he used to wrap the front of the leaf springs in duct tape for when he went racing for the night. If I remember he said it was a Studebaker
Your kinda makes us dizzy but your learning. I ran the Mopar performance spring clamps in the 80’s on my Road Runner along with a pinion snubber and battery in truck.
Tony your awesome, havent laughed so hard in a long time , you'll get it , no sweat
Cathy does a great job, another one of those things that men don't really notice or value. She is just in the background making the wheels turn figuratively while Tony makes the wheels turn literally.
I would call people that can modify vehicles and gain positive results “real men”, not people that can simply film themselves… they are the “totally helpless” ones.
Good info, thanks!
Only suggestion is to add a couple of lights to the work area you want to show under the cars. The areas without direct light were a bit hard to see but leaf springs are super basic so visuals weren't super important. Other than that great information, as always.
Thank you! Am doing this right now for a 3,000HP Jensen Interceptor.
You done great. Great explanation. Thank you.
Great tips, i've never heard of those before.
👍🏾👊🏽 great job Uncle Tony I like you with the camera
That was really good and very helpful, thanks. Gooday from Australia. :)
That was fun. Thanks Tony.
Great video and awesome tip!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tony, you did good.
Realy would like to hear how you counter the 3rd force on a leaf spring car. Where Axel toque tries to plant one tire and lift the other. On four link the bars can be adjusted but what to do on fixed leafspring?also would like to hear some on setting your tire pressure and its effects.
Great job Tony keep it up
You can teach an old dog new tricks.
Good job. Good info.
Little bit of lighting would help out.
Thanks for your content.
Great info Tony