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I'm a European conservative - we believe in universal healthcare and subsidised housing. I don't understand how conservatives in the US don't and then to cap it off they call themselves Christian- how, how can you call yourself Christian and not look after the less fortunate 🤷♀️
its not only about the looking for the less fortunate, these benefits we have in Europe are for the system itself, health care for healthy employes, social security results in public security and supports people to get back in the market, but yes
@@Alvonso_8 Absolutely!
Or think how Germany is the country with the lowest annual work hours (followed by Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Austria and Sweden), but still among the top 20 in terms of GDP per capita. Almost as if being able to take a vacation and having a day off helps with productivity.
Norway is another good example. They would around 12% less than americans, but their economy is about 26% larger per capita. Which means the average norwegian working hour is worth more than 45% more than the average american working hour. Or in other words, norwegians could take a 15 min break every hour, and still make more.
@@HappyBeezerStudios Although I agree with everything you said, I suspect the more extreme example of Norway is partly inflated by the absolute shedload of money they make from oil and gas relative to their overall population size.
I so agree with your statement. It is a very unchristian mindset they have. But, have you seen how filthy rich their evangelical pastors are? Multiple mansions and airplanes.
socialist politics ARE NOT THE SAME AS social politics.
but america loves ist buzzwords without understanding the meaning of them.
Best example: "freedom"
Facts
what do they get wrong about freedom? To me they seem to be the country that gets it most right. Here in the EU there is little freedom
@@skurinski Bullshit, stop crying.
dont mind the obvious bait reply above
I always find it funny if they use "Liberal" as an insult and then proceed to celebrate FREEDOM
It is impressive to see how it is fulfilled: "The bird that was born in a cage thinks that flying is a crime."
That's a great quote
A quote that explains why Americans think they live in the "land of the free".@@giuliamorrell4466
this video is like watching a child realise he's been lied to his whole life, but refusing to believe it.
Important is also to be open minded and think where we maybe are manipulated. I don't mean necessary on purpose. Of you believe in something and are a person where are following it is easy to manipulate but have no intention to do so. Other way around is lying on purpose. But I've you believe what you say and it makes sense in some way people are more willing to believe it.
@everyone Iam no expert I could be wrong keep mean comments for yourself. The fact that you need to say something 😮 not the first time someone accused me for having dangerous opinion. I could influence people and should shut up.
Maybe I believe nonsense but this is exactly what people need to figure out instead free speech is bombarded.
Just listening to your reactions, you really don't have the slightest clue how 'socialist' countries work.
Just reading your comment, you really don't have the slightest idea that the pseudo-socialist countries you mean were neither socialist nor left-like governed and they would use far-right methods to maintain the fake system going, as all they intended was to maintain a small elite by luring the majority (very poor) into adhering to a fake future. They were never left, they never followed the very basis of it.
Americans don't understand the difference between social democracy and socialist autocracy. We've had multiple conservative governments over the years in Norway. A socialist autocracy obviously don't.
None of which are socialist economicly they work closer to facist italy than any dorm of true socialism
I mean how many are there? All experiments kinda ended in hell
@@Slicc12345You are using two different meanings of "socialist".
I was born in the USA, I am now a EU citizen and have renounced my USA citizenship. I would never want to move back to the USA system. The USA likes to call everything communism/socialism especially policies that help the poor, disabled and working class. Here our healthcare is affordable, comprehensive and despite the myth espoused by some in the US there are no long waiting list or denial of needed health care - in the USA unless you're ill you don't go to a doctor whereas here the focus is more on preventative care. While housing has become more of an issue we have a much lower rate of homelessness per capita and they are working on building more social housing in addition to new houses. College/University is very affordable so student debt/loans are almost unheard of, the majority of people have degrees, also vocational schools diplomas are just as valued as not every type of career requires a college degree. The quality of life, especially work/life balance, is so much better.
"despite the myth espoused by some in the US there are no long waiting list or denial of needed health care" Hell yeah! You can always choose to go to a private doctor or hospital anyway. So many ridiculous myths and lies about Europe's healthcare system being spread and believed in America, I kinda feel sad for them.
Glad you like it here. 🥰
@@SatieSatie I believe the lies are spread to make the American system look better.
The American dream is alive in Finland.
@@thomasbarchen
did't like it over there and came back to the old world
Huh
good! never come back to the greatest country ever created.
Socialism and Social Democracy are so WILDLY DIFFERENT things it amazes me how many Americans think Carl Marx was right while even Communist China lives under capitalist rules. Please. Do not mistake the two!
A shared laundry was not a drawback at the time when nobody had washing machines. It is just about sharing resources and not having to get them yourself. This is still the case to this day in Austria, not only in "Red Vienna". It is quite usual to have a laundry room in multi-party housing, equipped with a (heavy duty) washing machine and clothes dryer, and also clothes lines nearby. This is either available to all parties in the house free of charge, or coin-operated (for small amounts). This does not mean you're not allowed to have your own washing machine, it just means you don't have to own one.
Americans really need to get their heads out of their arses and figure out what's socialism and what are social policies. Socialism, by it's original definition, is an economic system in which the workers own the means of production, and not private persons (the capitalists). This is not the predominant system in any European country, so none of them are socialist. There are companies which are jointly owned by their workers, but no country prescribes this as a requirement.
Austria calls it's economic system "soziale Marktwirtschaft" - that is, a social market economy. It is, in essence, capitalism with strong worker protections and social welfare. Barely anyone in Europe would consider their country a socialist one - socialist countries were the ones behind the iron curtain, the countries in the sphere of influence of the Soviet Union, and mostly (though not as a rule) members of the Warszaw pact.
"socialist countries were the ones behind the iron curtain"
To be fair, the Soviets used the _terms_ "Socialism" and "Communism" like religious dogma, but the Soviet Party's politics had nothing to do with what Karl Marx called socialism and communism (namely, that the workers should own the means of production) but instead the Soviet Party owned all. And Stalinism was a flat-out fascist dictatorship.
Many many many medical innovations have come from countries with non-profit universal (socialised) healthcare. Innovation isn't just driven by profit, it's also driven by better ideas.
And America is not known for medical innovation, they basically take what was developed elsewhere and churn it out for profit, as creating that innovation is rarely profitable in itself.
But many Americans believe most medical innovation comes from America, because they are taught that basically everything good comes from America, and they just believe it.
Again, facts to support this are easily found, but I'm fully expecting Americans to take exception at this, as anything that shines a faintly bad light on the US is attacked!
if i recall the vaccine for polio was not patented (making the doctor who invented it lose potential millions) so it would be cheaper for people to afford the treatment. while profit may be an incentive for innovation, it should never be placed as one for the advancement of the wellbeing of fellow humans, because some people will try to twist it for their personal profit and stall that progress instead: remember the scandal when someone decided to raise insulin pricing in the usa by like 600 or 800% ? that was pure profit hoarding. it was already completed research and manufacturing didnt change. all it did was raise prices to profit from sick people. if i recall the usa used to heavily tax corporate profits ( like 80 or 90% taxed away) to stop that type of behavious and motivate them into re-investing in expanding and research... and wasnt just the medical field.
Profits will drive down innovation because innovation only comes if it's more profitable quickly
And by passionate people who want to do good for this world in ways only they can without having to worry about money!
And also that profits go to improve wages and conditions for employees, rather than to shareholders
100 years ago before the washing machine.... A shared laundry meant you could at least wash your clothes, or have them washed
Yup. When your prior experience was tenement living, washing your clothes in a tub fed by a standpipe in a shared courtyard (if you were lucky), the idea of access to plumbed heated systems, indoors etc would have been heavenly.
And even during the early times of what we could call a modern washing machine, having one shared was better than having none at all. And how much time do you even use it. Even if you have a big family and wash 3 times a week, that is maybe 3 hours on those days (for a very slow machine or multiple loads) there is still enough time for others to use it.
Or from a purely capitalist view: imagine you could rent out your washing machine when you're not using it.
Ah, the Steamie 😁
@@HappyBeezerStudios Shared laundry rooms were a very common thing up until around the late 80s/early 90s.
In the apartment block where I grew up (built in 1976) there was a shared laundry room with a big washing-machine and a dryer for every 20 apartments. The equipment was industrial quality, so it actually worked reliably and quickly; we - a family of 4 - had "washing day" 1-2 times a week (depending on where we kids went to play...); we just reserved a slot (usually ~3 hours) on a list in the hallway.
Much more efficient than everyone owning their own machines, which would only get used every couple of days, at most.
But of course this only works as long as at least one family member was at home during the day (back then stay-home mums were the norm). When everyone wants to use the facilities in the evening, one machine wouldn't be enough for that number of flats.
Shared laundry rooms are still very common here in Sweden. As a member of that specific building you can book a slot of for instance 3 hours to do laundry (on any day between 7:00am-10:00pm). These rooms have professional grade washing machines and dryers, drying cabinets, or sometimes even complete drying rooms with hot air flowing. The cost of this is included in the rent or the monthly contribution to the home owners association. It works really well!
Here in Luxembourg buildings most times have one room that everybody put's their own washing machine in. I allways thought it was a hugh waste not to share fewer washing machines.
Here in Vienna in the „Gemeindewohnungen“ mentioned in the video too. While most people HAVE their own washing machines and dryers in the apartment, it’s still an option to use the shared one. It works just like what you mentioned and only those people who registered get a key to the room.
Another point to consider is that in the 1930, washing machines weren't common, and not cheap. Having a shared laundry room allow the community to share the utilities, so it cost less per person.
A lot of student building still have this today.
I bet it saves energy, and strain on the grid to not have every person using the machines at the same time too.
@@mabus4910 How people there reason it? Can you elaborate on the thought process? That sounds really odd way to organize it.
I'm from Lisbon, Portugal. We have a Parliamentary Democracy, with elections for Prime-Minister every 4 years, elections for President every 5 years. We have universal healthcare, almost free public good universities, free public transportations for all over 65, safety, zero school shootings, paid parents leave (both parents), etc. Our government is run by the Socialists (second mandate), our President is central right. Co-existence is possible. I would not live anywhere else.
According to numbeo, Average Monthly Net Salary (After Tax) is 1,129.94 € and renting an Apartment (1 bedroom) in City Centre - 1,325.40 € ) For example, you can compare Lisbon and New York and life in New York is more affordable
@@botmode_ That's a ridiculous notion. It depends where you choose to live. The Upper East side of Manhattan is ridiculously expensive. You should visit and take your own conclusions instead of relying on stats. We are going to have elections in March, do you believe if a more right-leaning party is elected the prices will go down? Think again. Turning public services into coirporations will make the prices increase. Do you know what made Lisbon such an expensive city? It's because we had an incredible number of rich foreigners/digital nomads settling here to live permanently making the property value go sky high. Not entitely fault of any government, Lisbon is beautiful, diverse, very safe and has amazing weather. If i wasn't born here, i'd consider moving here.
@@cilajoao1 The cost of living in Portugal is too high compared to salaries. The prices in Lisbon are the same like the prices in Montreal, but again the minimum salary is like two different worlds. The rent is high, food similar. Difficulty finding a job. Slow services. You pay for services and hear only amanha (tomorrow). Do you need to fix a door? I'll come amanha and no one comes for 2 weeks or more. if you like a warm climate, a quiet life and not a rich life, then Portugal is ok
@@botmode_ I prefer to have a very safe life, warm, full of good friends and family who meet regularly and enjoy each others company despite their different, sometimes opposed, views on politics, society, religion, etc. Don't like it? Don't come. Simple.
One major reason the term "socialist" has become politically anathema in the US is that, alone amongst western-style democracies, anything even vaguely tagged as social, becomes labelled as socialist. Welfare, housing, working conditions, healthcare, parental leave, etc.; everything accepted as automatic by even conservative administrations elsewhere, are viewed as socialist, even communist, by many in the US.
What you are saying is just theory. I lived 25+ years in a socialist country. I'd love to address your key-words one by one: welfare = it existed for the members of the communist party. The others lived from one day to the other. That is: wages and good food, clothing, holidays, right to stay in a hotel everything was for the members of the party. The others could rot, according to their own option. Housing = member of the party? Yes? wait 2 to 3 years and maybe, maybe you'll get two or three rooms. Not member of the party? Get on the list and wait, wait, wait, maybe you'll receive the right to buy, or live in those two to three rooms right after receiving the death certificate for your own death. The party wanted to give you a house but, ooopsie, you opted to die, your bad. Working conditions = 8 hours often turned to 12 or more, but you got to build the majestic project of socialism and communism Good jobs, just for the trusted comrades. Healthcare = yeah, free but once you were over 50 you were a burden, old, let to die. You'd done your job, now shush! Parental leave? Don't make me laugh! That's why you got creches and kindergartens. Go to work, you lazy ass. Anyone believing socialism and communism are a good solution I would advise heartily to go and live the dream: Cuba, Venezuela, N. Korea. PS Don't give the crap about not applied correctly. Always, anywhere socialism and communism end in totalitarianism with local flavor and more victims in a couple of years than capitalism since inception.
@@corneliadumitru6568and you are making the age-old mistake of confusing socialism with communism.
@@kiljaeden7663 I believe they are pointing out that in the US, many people are cofusing socialism with communism.
@@kiljaeden7663 Yeah, sure. One (socialism) is the first step to the other, both are just as ugly. You speak from theory and ideology. I speak from practice. But do go on, support it. I don't mind, and I pray you live in the world you see. Good luck to that, as it was socialism not communism I recounted about. You'd curse your living daylights. The trouble with socialism and communism - but I can speak truly only about socialism - is that the gap between theory (what you preach) and practice (what I lived) is unreconcilable and forever spells doom.
@corneliadumitru6568 So tell me all about the awful communist dictatorships of Western Europe. Take your propaganda elsewhere.
Mind you, Austria never was a socialist country. In fact, it is among the more conservative nations in Europe still. You must keep social and socialist apart. They are completely different concepts. Conservative European nations still have great social infrastructures and safety nets without being socialist, but maintaining - at large - capitalism!
yes, the classic socialism is not a social market economy, which we have in most european countries
The way I see it is the following. These countries combined a very strict and controlled capitalism with socialism. The market is capitalist, but the redistribution of the taxes and the wealth is socialist, therefore I think it's both.
americans dont seperate between socialism and social democrathy, its the same for them
@@evilmessiah81 that´s an education issue right there ^^
Socialist is anything owned by government. Social housing is socialist. Nobody is calling for America to turn into Cuba. However america definetly needs a lot more socialism and regulation to reign in corporate greed and reduce inequality
I live in Central Europe and I'm very sorry for You in USA. In Poland a word "socialism" is also difficult for many people, but we believe in solidarity. Sometimes young politician try to convince us, that we should be "free" lik Americans, but luckily it's not that popular idea.
I know this is a bit off topic, but I wanted to let you know that I only recently started watching most of your reaction videos about Canada and a few other places. At first, as a Canadian, I felt like it was about time that someone from the USA finally took the time to look outward to the rest of the world.... then I realized that I was guilty of the exact same thing myself. I now find myself learning about other places that I knew very little or nothing about. I just wanted to take the time to thank you for inspiring me to learn about the world we all share.
It's not that nobody cares that the graph is terrifying...it is simply that nobody cares! That's why the graph is the way it is! The US has NEVER cared! All that matters is the dollar!
The USA was founded by a bunch of rich white slave-owners who didn't want to pay taxes, who bullshitted everybody into believing it was all about "LIBERTY". Not much has changed in the almost 250 years since they started that con.
Now come on now, that's a bit harsh - it's the Almighty Dollar.
Move to one of the countries you like then noone making you stay where you are.
@@dalb.790 I take it you are completely happy with your life where you are. You are making the big bucks, have a nice home, lots of money in the bank, good retirement fund, kids college education paid for,
@@dalb.790 I don't live in the US!
In germany, when someone sleeps 3 days in a row in a homeless shelter, they get paperwork that proves them officially homeless, and with that paperwork the people can skip all waiting times for social services, and a social worker that provides them the infrastructure to find themselfs a suitable home, while the social services provide the guarantee that there will be money for rent to the landlords who offer social housing.
Its all about getting the homeless back into society as quick as possible.
you just repeat theories. but in reality it doesent work out that way. there are people living for years on the street and you will never get them back. they dont get houses or support. and please dont ignore the fact that a lot of them dont want your "help".
@@HelenaDammers i worked in a mental institue, we took literally homeless for the winter in and gave them medical treatment.
And thats not a theory. Thats how I did it to get of homelessness, so don't discuss stuff you have no idea about.
@@koschmx maybe. Sad truth is, the official places who should inform the people about it, simply don't do it and leave the people be. I had do go through 2 different pro bono social groups until someone told me that.
I don't know if the BAA is everywhere same on that, but when I simply told them "my gf threw me out of the house, I am basicly homeless and hungry" they immedietly offered me food stamps and a lost of shops that accepts these food stamps. So if you see anyhomeless people, tell them they can at least ask for food stamps.
mike drop lol@@SiN88m
I want to remind you that Germany has universal health care and still is one of the leading countries regarding innovations in the health sector. Partially because of this.
Please don’t say UNIVERSAL. That’s American…we each have our own health care ..it just covers us..not the universe..only Americans could come up with that..
Yeah, that comment also took me. Like yes, capitalism drives innovation. Innovation in profits, not actual care for life, lmao
11:14 When they talk about shared laundries, consider that this was in the 1920's and 30's, at a time when having an easily accessible laundry facility was something of a luxury.
The story about devoloping social housing in Wien (Vienna) is valid throughout Europe. And Americans do need to learn the difference between social, socialist and communist 😱
Social democracy, to be precise
@@beaconeersofthesevenmaps3467 well, you can have social policies in every kind of government. Britain is still a Constitutional Monarchy, not a democracy, with some social policies.
show this to them
Social something ism: being social and looking after eachother
socialism: people unite to form their own faction against capitalism
Communism: the workers rise and all classes disappear, also everything is shared
I know it’s not accurate but I hope I got the big pictures
@@caligo7918 In a video from Geography Now the Netherlands is called “a unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy that limits royal powers”. I think the same goes for the UK, the monarch has for the foremost only a ceremonial function. Yes, they do need to sign any parliamentary decisions to come into law, but (at least in the Netherlands) I don’t recall that they refused to sign ever (Although I do recall that the Belgian king resigned for a day or two because he didn’t agree with a new law and that way it could be passed without his consent). But still, every monarchy in Europe is a democracy, all the inhabitants of those countries have the right to vote for their representatives in parliament. But I have to admit that the electoral system in the UK is weird to me; the district based electoral system in which parties that don’t win in a district loose all their votes (😱 horrifying to me, new parties aren’t given a chance, it only favours the ruling parties, and that why they keep it that way) and the presence of an antiquated institution as the House of Lords that has the ultimate voice in issues, is surely not democratic. I do think things could be much better, not only in the Uk but everywhere … sadly people that have power tend to cling to it by all means …
That will never happen as long as 1/3 get all their "facts" from Fox.
Wow the more i learn about American housing and healthcare the more i ask , dear God what is your government thinking , care for your people
That's the point it isn't up to our government to care of you.. Americans are not the people of a Government.
@@darrinleroy4869that’s true. Americans are the people who are owned by the few big corporations.
Well I like to get something in return for paying taxes
@@seanmiddleton6933we all do, no matter what country you live. However, it's also about a society looking after it's most vulnerable ppl. THAT is as important in most other democratic countries.
@@darrinleroy4869 I greatly disagree. If you truly believe this then why pay for public schools, roads, fire departments, police forces, military, and any other community-provided resource? America's problem imo is some wild sense that America is perfect and we are better than everyone else. Personally, America could stand to actually learn from our peers in the world and take care of each other. I pay for my government, I'd like it to matter. I'd like to ensure that everyone in such a wildly wealthy country has access to food, shelter, and clothing instead of spending billions on tanks that sitting rotting in glorified parking lots. I'd like the people I elected to actually DO something rather than yell about space lasers, and I'd like Americans to actually get some freaking education and stop being so ethnocentric.
Innovation is prevalent in Western Europe, despite most countries having universal health care. It's still possible to make tons of money, even if the country has universal health care, paid parental leave, paid sickleave, minimum 20 days of paid vacation, tuition free education and so on.
Sweden is known to be a heaven for starting business. And it is in the top of the list of billionaires per capita.
He mentioned that in other countries housing is a fundamental right like education and healthcare, but in america non of these is a fundamental right😂
Owning a gun is😂😂😂 sorry but that absolutely does not make any sense 😂😂
Shared laundries: They did not have washing maschines in 1925. Clothes were washed by hand, or boiled in huge kettles (that not everyone had access to). So I guess it was a huge improvement to have shared washing houses where washing was boiled on a regular basis.
In addition, sharing laundries frees room for living space. If you have a dedicaced laundry room, or even just a washing machine and a dryer in your home (as it's often done now) that's 2 cubic meters taken for machines you may not even use daily.
You didnt think it was evil, you were taught so and never questioned it 🤷🏻♂️
Taught not thought.
Trying to imply that someone is brainwashed, while trying to tilt them to your view is super hypocritical. Socialism has never worked.
@@TheRedPerila mix of socialism and capitalism has shown itself to work time and time again and far better than neoliberalism. It's an easy win for socialism. Although talking about revolutionary communism on the other hand is a more nuanced discussion with stronger reasons to criticise. But mixed socialism? Give me a break.
It has been proven to be evil. Look at Cuba: under socialism, the citizens suffer, while Fidel Castro was worth over 900 million dollars. Socialism only benefits the rich, while everyone else suffers. Under a socialist government, they demand that the average everyday person spread their success, but the rich don't do it. It's a 'rule for thee, but not for me' philosophy. Because of that philosophy, the everyday person gets to the point where they ask, 'Why should I work when I don't get to keep my own success?' So they stop working and depend on the government. What does that do to the economy? It tanks it. Why? Because no one is working, and the people are sitting on their ass depending on the government. And those who do work are less qualified for that position because the best people who should be in that position are thinking, 'Why should I work without being paid? fuck it."
look at Bernie Sanders. If he was a believed in socialism and was a true socialist, than he wouldn't be a multi-millionaire, wouldn't have three mansions, and would give 99% of his 200,000 + salary to the homeless. The man is a fucking fraud. EVERY SOCIALIST LEADER IS.
Socialism and communism works on paper but not in reality due to the human condition.
@@rwwilson21 let's be clear. This video is not talking about Cuba. This video is talking about socialised housing, and thus is referring to a mixed economy much like the Scandinavian countries, or universal healthcare, much like every wealthy nation and some poor ones except the US. Obviously not evil, obviously far more successful than without, proven time and time again, over and over, example after example. Debating Cuba is a different discussion.
I think you nailed it Ryan. Unfortunately, there is a conflation of the terms socialism and communism, for too many US citizens. Many tend to use the terms interchangeably. They are two different words for a reason. Many capitalist countries run socialist policies. Here in Australia is an example. Though, unfortunately, this has been changing over the past 10-20 years. 😢
I live in social housing in the U.K. I have a lovely two bedroom bungalow in the centre of my City and it costs a tenth of what I earn. I get free public transport travel and free healthcare. Across the river from me housing for 2000 people is currently being built that’s going to be a green energy area. I’m really proud to live here. I have lived in the US and much prefer it here.
I lived in England too, in Richmond, the best England has to offer. I was a few blocks from the Downe House where Mic Jagger and Jerri Hall lived. Yet I prefer to live in America. Go figure.
@@karlbmilesCome on, you troll a lot here. How old are you? I guess OLD.
@@karlbmiles I want to live in America NOT
There is one important point that i missed in this video: the fact that the social housing programm is heavily mixed through. It doesn't matter if you are in the lowest 5% of income or have an above average salary, everyone has the same rights which leads to socially mixed communities and Appartment complexes = in theory there are no particular "bad spots" "slums" "poor communities", meaning that you have a well mix in every kindergarden, elementary school and high school with people from all social classes. (In practice there are obviously some "rich areas" but thats negligible)
This would be culture-changing for 99% of Americans. Think what it would do if people knew the people their taxes helped house?
The US, Switzerland and Norway are some of the most advanced countries when it comes to the field of medicine, with huge healthcare spending, numerous pharmaceutical companies and sophisticated academia.
Funny how 2 of the top 3 counties are Social Democracy and have Universal healthcare . Innovation doesn't seem to be Impeded does it?
Every medical practice, hospital, and clinic in the US is being swept up into corporate entities whose only purpose is to make the most money possible with the least amount of care they can get away with. This started some 40 or so years ago. It is not slowing down at all. Soon there will be NO independent or nonprofit hospitals, offices or clinics left in the US. I grew up before this and before health insurance was an absolute necessity. It is very well possible that if the corporate takeover had not happened, corporate for profit health insurance would not be necessary either. Funny how that happened. Corporations are out to make the most money possible by bleeding the population dry. It's extremely unfair and probably unsustainable by the population over the long run.
Have to keep in mind the population of Norway and Switzerland combined have a population less than the Metropolitan area of New York City. American is also incredibly diverse from state to state what works for Wyoming would not work for Florida, what works for Vermont won't work for Hawaii. So assuming what works in Norway and Switzerland would work in the United Stats is like saying what works in Aruba would work in Alaska. Also the cost of said programs would also be extraordinarily different.
@@jamesreese4170 In Switzerland, we have four national languages. Our Federal Constitution includes the 26 cantons, each with its own constitution and government. So yes, we are a small country with a small population. But unlike other nation states, we are a nation through the will to be together. When I hear your speech I think, perhaps wrongly, that it is a speech against the desire to live together. 😄 Please we are not Sweden😆
@@karldehaut I'm just saying if Switzerland 🇨🇭 was a state it would be the 3rd smallest State in the United States 7 Switzerlands could fit inside Texas alone. What works for 6 million people might not work for 332 Million people. I'm not putting down Switzerland I'm actually Swiss in my heritage, my lineage is from the canton of Bern. I think it's a lovely country with a great culture. But it's hard to say. Well it works here so it should work there given the vast size and population differences between the 2 countries.
@@jamesreese4170 ... what would stop the individual US states - which are very comparable with European countries size-wise - to implement such policies? The systems in Europa are quite diverse too, but most of them provide better service than the US healthcare system, and _all_ of them are significantly cheaper to run.
Honestly one big problem we have today is individualism. Shared laundry is not necessarily bad when you think of how much it would save for everyone to not buy a machine that you only use once for a few hours every week...
To jest złudne, bo taka "publiczna" pralka szybko się psuje i trzeba ją wymieniać a ja mam swoją Elektrolux już 25 lat i nadal jest sprawna!!! Pozatym pranie nie absorbuje twojego czasu, bo robię to w swoim mieszkaniu i jest higieniczne, bo piorę tylko swoje rzeczy!!! Nie wyobrażam sobie robić pranie poza domem, nosić to wszystko, płacić i tracić swój wolny czas, to jest absurdalne!
I may complain about my hometown a lot (Viennese love to complain) but there are very good reasons why Vienna has been topping multiple quality of life indices for years; in Mercer's Quality of Living Ranking even for 14 consecutive years.
One of the defining features of the world-wide unique Viennese social housing system is the location of these residences, referred to as "Gemeindebauten" or "Gemeindewohnungen". These can be found everywhere from the innermost city center to the outermost city limits, and even the most decentralized locations are always connected to public transport, such as buses or rapid transit railways; even nightlines that operate from midnight to morning on weekdays. Despite its age, Vienna has an incredibly smart and functioning urban design.
As a result, the formation of ghettos could be prevented from the start - there simply are no ghettos in Vienna. Within a Gemeindebau complex, people from various backgrounds, financial statuses, and ages come together. There is no social stigma attached to a Gemeindewohnung. Even a well-known Austrian politician is known to reside in such an apartment with his family. I myself have lived in one, as many of my friends and acquaintances do.
Regarding shared laundry, there are always multiple "Waschräume" (laundry rooms) available in Gemeindebau complex, each equipped with a large washing machine (and an awesome tumble dryer) that can be booked. However, everyone is free to purchase their own private washing machine, no one will stop you. :)
Edit: There is also a 24/7 hotline in case something breaks in your apartment or you just want to complain (lol). If you can't pay rent, there are options, such as install payments or financial aids.
In the USA, there are two right-wing parties and they only care about the rich getting richer... In Europe, it was a long process from the French revolution until today.
In Europe, there is a variety of political options, that's why every European country, even if it is not in the European Union, has social plans for its vulnerable residents.
and that's why there is now a turn to fascism in about every EU country
@@urbandiscount Yup, about everyone is fed-up with this socialist nonsense. 'The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.'
@@janosnagy3096 I didnt knew US is socialist. People is camping in the streets because they lost everything, that's in US, not in France or Germany.
LoL, you have no idea what fascism is. What you call fascism in EU is a bland, naive version of what's gonna be US after next presidential elections.
Keep calm and learn the goose step, comrade!
funny enough, in Italian "camerata" define fascist movement members, never communist, that were called compagni (companions maybe?) .
The Italian term is the reason in English you use "comrade".
@@urbandiscount *Gesture toward Trump supporters*
Rise of fascism is a global problems.
(From one region of Europe where the rising extremism is not facism, too)
Social awareness is only about caring for your neighbour.
About getting rid of egocentric behavour.
In Europe we pay taxes in order to take care of us - and the society that sorrounds us. That’s why our crime rates are lower. You don’t have to steal to get food, to pay your rent. We save by sharing.
This 👆🏼
Well said!
Here in Alberta, Canada
I pay $1200.00(cad)($878.90usd) with a rent increase 150.00 per year. This give me about 1100 square feet in 2 bedrooms and a bathroom. I’m a retired from the Canadian army and now I’m 54 handycapped on a fixes income about 1900.00. I have to pay for my power which runs about 300.00 per month then I pay 250.00 for food. That a total of $1750.00 per month plus my internet cost is about 150.00 add to 1750.00= 1900.00. I have no spare funds for anything
Shared laundry is a shared space that you can book up to do your laundry at, instead of having to go to a laundromat. It's usually free. Here in Sweden it exists in almost all apartment buildings. Instead of having to cramp your laundry/dryer machine into your tiny flat - you can use the shared laundry area. Usually it has at least 2-3 laundry machines. Sometimes even a carpet machine. It's great. In one place I lived they had an industry-grade centrifuge. After one 5-minutes run the everything was practically dry. It just needed a few minutes in a dryer.
When I lived in a condo, I tended to book Sunday mornings (nobody else wanted those times) I was usually done before lunch and didn't have to bother with laundry for another week.
The US solution would be more like 10 homeless familys fight to the death in a arena and the surviving family qualyfied for round two, were 10 familys fight to death for healthcare and the winner can rent a room for a month.
When's that on😅
Oh my God, don't give them any more ideas for stupid "Reality" - TV shows. 🤫🙄😱
🇺🇸Netflix just thought of a plan with your comment 🥴🥴😝
@@sweety1746😂
So basically the "Purge" series of movies
It is so hard to live in socialist Vienna... Clean streets, still affordable flats, safety, childcare for working people, great medical care and maybe the best public transport system in the world... It really sucks to live here...
Well... Of course not all is perfect here in Vienna, but here we are mostly talking about first world problems most of the time...
Ryan, if you want to talk with a viennese about this topics, just tell me!
Completly true. Watching this video feels like 3th world circumstances.
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You don't live in socialist Vienna, just social Vienna. Nice city though 🙂
The US appears to have no problem with "government" owned prisons and military bases, paid for by taxes for the protection of its citizens. Are they socialist institutions? What's the difference in tax dollars being invested in protecting some of its citizens by providing housing. At least the tenants would pay rent and the property remains an asset long term. Can't say that of, say, former US bases in Afghanistan. Plus, for the capitalists out there, people with a safe home and not spending all their money on rent can make a bigger contribution to the economy.
@@JimBobele well... In consideration of the fact, that the SPÖ was named "Socialist Party of Austria" till 1991 I think you still can say socialist Vienna ;)
In my country if a developer wants to build an apartment building they of course would love to make it all luxury condos, but we have a law that makes them build a certain percentage of the building into smaller, affordable apartments. This is why we don't really have homogeneous neighbourhoods, a rich guy might live next door to a poor guy in social housing.
Here in Germany some people also live on the streets. I lived on the street myself for 13 months (some time ago). And the winter in the beautiful Black Forest was no longer quite as idyllic and there was no Christmas feeling at all... But I don't want to miss this experience. I learned something for the rest of my life. Okay, the hard way. I learned what is really important in life and what is not.
Sometimes I think everyone should do that too. Just to get down to earth again.
The reasons why all graphs go "through the roof" is that the asymmetric distribution of wealth and power has removed the possibilities for self correction. Those who could do something about it don't care and those who care don't have the means to induce structural, fundamental change.
At one time the top 1% used their money to enhance society, Carnegie, Cadbury etc. Now its all about vanity projects and looking down on the people that made them wealthy.
@@linnettsamuel5026as I read it, they give far more than 1% for the most part.
One also needs to distinguish between actual income and pretty much virtual stock market evaluations there. The latter mostly represent a prognosis of future dividends/income. Turning a prognosis of future income into real wealth in the current day does have some complications and limitations.
I think this video needs to be shown in America. I'm sure a lot of people on your European channel would know all this anyway.
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We've had a similar story as Austria here in Sweden with what we call "folkhemmet" (the peoples home politics, it was an umbrella of social justice ideas for all walks of life including health care, education and housing just to mention a few areas), but during the last couple of decades this system has been crumbling, leaving us at an average of a third of our income going to rent. This varies wildly here as well as a majority of Swedens population lives in the bottom third of the country. Anyway, it just goes to show no victories are permanent.
Also about the taxes, there's a lot of smoke and mirrors involved so basically I as a Swede, with universal healtcare and everything, pay less in taxes than you do. Watch David Cross "Why everything sucks in America" and you'll understand what I mean.
I've read there is a 30+ year waiting list for social housing in Stockholm.
@stevo728822 Yeah, I hear it's pretty crazy there (I don't live in Stockholm).
you know i like watching your reactions, but often your not really listening to whats said in the video. in this case you keep responding to "socialism"as something that was thought to you by the people who benefit from lining their pockets. Socialism does not mean people get the houses for free and does not mean that people can not buy or sell houses... the reason why most European countrys do much better and a lot: healthcare, worker rights, education etc are better organized is that they are set up with a social thought in mind. not with the idea its important to keep political parties in power. Americans tend to view the worth Socialism as dirty. Its not. People still need to work and pay for their stuff its just devided more equal and opportunities are created for more people.
At the start of the video, he said he didn't know much, if anything, about the subject, but he needs to learn more.
Yes. It was interesting watching his reactions. You can see him opening his mind, but then his conditioning would kick in.
So many Americans need to actually hear this. I dunno how to make those changes, but I keep talking, voting, and hoping that we can.
You sum up pretty well the situation.
And let me tell you, its such frustration to see America, with such potential, wasting time, resources even the same lives of their citizens when they can do much more with less problems.
Its kinda like watching someone doing a job you can do better and can't help him doing it better and without struggling.
@@harryhanz1690 Yes he needs to actually watch the video instead of interrupting it with his incessant waffling, he might learn something
It's not "socialist" it's "social economy".
It has roughly as much to do with each other as dynamite and fireworks.
Hi Ryan, I watch more than one of your channels and look forward to your reactions. I enjoy learning about all sorts of things and watching you learn things too. It’s good to see people who are curious about the world. Re. shared laundries: 100 years ago washing was done by hand so the laundries were probably just a room with a bunch of washing troughs and maybe a mangle to help with drying. When I was a kid in Britain, our house did not have a laundry. We had a “state of the art” boiler with a mangle on top in the kitchen. I used to enjoy “helping” my mum wind the big crank handle to feed the clothes through to squash out most of the water. It wasn’t until I was 10 years old and in Australia that we had a separate laundry and a very fancy twin tub washing machine. As far as communal laundries, don’t you have laundromats in America? What would be the difference?
Shared laundry can be very good, it really depends on how it’s done. I personally used to live in an apartment that had shared laundry and it was amazing. But it was optional, you could install a washer in your apartment if you wanted too. But you could rent the laundry room for an entire day, and it didn’t cost much. It had high quality washer machines and dryers and a huge drying room. The neighbors where all really nice and there was no chance of having you clothes stolen. It was really a lot better than having your laundry in the apartment, because it takes up so much space!
Oh god he buys into the innovation argument for medical capitalism.... I cant
Americaaaa fuck yeah 😂
Yes health innovate health - only if there is profit in it. Actually to people - naw.
Yeah, all the insurance companies' profit boosts so much innovation 😂
@@BohdanMelnychuk my guys medical research is it’s own sector with state funds and more specifically often times overlaying with university research
For an easy example, we can just take the covid vaccine: first invented and tested in Germany, mass sold to the USA and there badly copied by those „overfunded medical research centers“
In Germany we don’t pay extra for research, we don’t pay much for medical care in general, yet our researchers were the most innovative in this specific case
Of course the example is pretty weak, but a researcher won’t stop a research, because the producer won’t make profit afterwards, that logic just wouldn’t make sense… the innovation still happens and if it’s needed the invisible hand will do it’s job, otherwise it gets archived or whatever… the point is, that these worklines have nothing to do with each other
Do Americans not have socialised fire service, library's etc? Why do they think it's so evil?
The right has pushed self sufficiency to the extreme, capitalism is the only true freedom! We've been brainwashed for so long. Wait...only the middle class down has to be self sufficient, the rich and businesses get much handed to them. Americans only believe in socialism for the upper class and corporate America.
Because they fought socialists in cold war
@@kingofohio5689Nope, they fought communism during the cold war.
The only Socialists/Fascists that they fought was during WW2
Because they have been brainwashed into believing that socialised ideas are inheritantly evil.
If they had a functioning brain it might help them to research these words.
Instead of their go to sources e. g. Fox news, OAN etc.
I bet it's hard to climb your family tree, seeing as how it's a greased telephone pole.
When I visited LA around 8 years ago, I opted for a luxury hotel near the beach for some days. In the morning, I was directed to Starbucks for breakfast and coffee(?)😂. On the way I passed multiple homeless people decorating my path. I endedup buying sandwiches for these guys, it was insane, the disparity, I couldn’t enjoy my flashy hotel at all
Brilliant, Ryan!! He demonstrates how not all US citizens are idiots.
Yhere's a rather big difference between socialism and communism, but a lot of Americans seem to think it's the same. And schared laundry was a luxury in 1930, you can't compare that to current times
My husband and I have bought our house and we have never earned a great deal of money but we didn't have to pay for health care or schooling even when we had to retire due to ill health we did not lose our home I feel so sorry for Americans
In America, taxes pay for schools, 13 years. Without knowing your country, I bet you did not go to college. Yes, I paid for my college education, but I have a college degree and I made a great deal of money, so I feel sorry for you.
@@karlbmiles the health care alone is reason enough to feel sorry for the US tbf, maybe you make great deal of money RN, but if you get a serious incurable disease have fun to keep ur money/house
@@karlbmilesI can’t believe you graduate from the college as you have no clue Europe has free education, free healthcare and maternal leave for 3 months WITH PAY.
I wish it were true, sincerely. Of the 28 European Union countries, where do you live, and where did you get your free college education? @@jomontanee
@@karlbmiles Free education is common in all European Union countries. Just like free medical care. On a side note - I studied and I have a doctorate. And I didn't have to spend a lot of money on my education for 13 years like you did.
Americans were not confronted like Europeans with the massive destruction of the two world wars and the absolute necessity of massively rebuilding housing for all the families who found themselves on the street. This is why they have never known this proactive policy of housing construction by public authorities.
In France, once the issues of reconstruction had been resolved (partly thanks to Roosevelt's Marshall Plan, but which was not purely philanthropic since the Europeans undertook in exchange to import the equivalent of the amount lent in American products), social housing was not considered as housing for the poor (since with full employment and social security, there should be no poor people), but housing for young people who had not yet been able to build up capital to access property.
But with time and the crisis, especially that linked to Reagan-Thatcherian globalization, mass unemployment appeared, the number of poor people exploded and social housing really became housing for the poor...
housing as a right does NOT mean private property is illegal
Vienna was the 5th biggest city in the world with 2 million inhabitants around 1900. After the loss of the Empire and two world wars, it took the city well past the year 2000 to hit 2 m again.
Actually, Vienna is the only major city in the world that had more inhabitants in the year 1900 than in the year 2000 ; )
Berlin as well. Was fuller 100 years ago compared to now.
I live in Vienna, and you'll not get kicked out of your home if you earn to much. You just are not eligable to move into one of these homes, but you can stay there as log as you want (or live).
Healthcare in Europe is mainly universal healthcare ( free at the point of use ) and if you want to check innovation in our universities and hospitals is as strong ( often stronger ) than in the US .
your videos are rather quiet, which makes it really enjoyable and without headaches, especially since for me in European tent (more precisely French), I’m really curious about anything, So it’s just a pleasure to see over-verse comment on Eu vs US type, or even when you give your opinion on your video as at 08:15 for this one.
And above all, the fact that you rather chose the layout of the screen as you do (rather small and a little inclined) whereas generally, it is rather the camera which films the head which is smaller. Anyway, you have a really good graphic thing.
If you make you stream games with this same layout, I will follow you with great pleasure.
Scandinavian Social Democracy is NOT Socialism. It's capitalism, but with a conschience. US call it Democractic Socialism, which creates a lot of confusion.
the border and or differences between social democracy and democratic socialism are still disputed among scholars. The same goes for socialism itself which is rooted in the ideals of the French revolution. It's more appropriate to talk of socialisms, as there are are many currents of thought
@@ruiclaudino4084The funny thing is, we have parties representing each of them, and the social democrats and democratic socialists are even in parliament and have been there since decades, in some places even before the current parliamentary system was established.
@@HappyBeezerStudios in my country the socialist party comprehends social democrata, democratic socialists and laborists. If the DSA renamed to SDA, maybe wouldn't sound so scary to Americans
Explain the difference please.
Search Olof Palme speech. He says he is a democratic socialist. I said, there are severas forma of socialism. Capitalismo is an economic concept: it's about the organization and ownership at the company level. Socialism refers mainly to the organization of the society. Socialism doesn't mean mandatory public ownership of all means of production, nor capitalism mean markets and money
Dont mix up "socialist" housing and Socialism. Sounds same, but are two very different things.
@@aussiepomWe gotta seize the means of production my friend.
Here in Italy the universal healtcare (now called Servizio Sanitario Nazionale) was established decades ago by governments led by Christian Democrats, a centrist-conservative catholic party.
One very important aspect of social housing is, that even the living in private flats got cheaper through it. When 60% of the apartments are available easy and cheap, it's a lot harder for landlords to charge high rents. Nobody will pay more than twice or three times this rent, when there is a chance to get one of the cheap social apartments. Still, they are more expensive, but the low social housing rent impacts them too.
Typical American, gaslit to believe people "innovating" are only "incentised" by making vast sums of money, totally ignoring scientists who have worked for centuries pushing forward human knowledge for a wage or even as a hobby.
Ignoring whole movements wanting to improve society who did it in their spare time ...
I agree with you, but maybe you should acknowledge that innovation really caught up speed when scientists had something to gain
A whole lot of innovation comes from people wanting to know stuff. And the things they learn along the way lead to knew and better technology.
@@bananenmusli2769more like, scientists have finally the funding to innovate more
Researching new stuff is costly
@@arjix8738 thats why socialist countries never peak as capitalist ones.
even these scientists have been taken care of bye the universities. or they hoped to get wealthy at some point. they didnt live just on air. and you have to consider in academia - even the so called competent ones - are pretty incompetent outside of that. so they hadnt have what it takes to make big money. dont think people are not interested in making money even the scientist you aretalking about. dont gaslite yourself!
Austria 🇦🇹 here. These buildings are from the 1920 th. Social housing still exists here in Austria, not only in Vienna. If you need help with rent, you can apply for it. No problem!
The buildings are still nice. But, dont get this wrong. Building and housing is still a business here! And a very lucrative one, too! We simply don't get overboard with capitalism all the time!
Funny, I never thought about shared laundry not being common in other countries! It’s just so standard here in Switzerland. I mean most new houses today are build with private washing machines for every apartment in mind I guess, but it’s still incredibly common to have a shared laundry space. The time management can vary, but in my experience every apartment gets a designated day of the week to wash or you can put your name on a timetable. And if something doesn’t add up you just ask your neighbors if you can switch :3
The idea of hauling your clothes to the basement, putting your clothes in washing machine used by a stranger, waiting for your turn, etc., is disgusting. When I was young, I had to live in a cheap apartment, but I worked hard to make sure I'd arrive where I live now. I'm a single guy living in a 5,000 sq. ft. house with TWO laundries and kitchens, five bathrooms, 10 televisions, and so on. That's how I want to live. The 'American Dream' is home ownership, where you live as you like and don't have to accommodate the hoi polloi.
Nobody cares about your american dream or how much you have, you clearly are an insignificant tiny little person. What's the deal about american people thinking others care or are jealous of what they privately own? I would take any day universal healthcare, free education or even better transportation than a house with 3 laundries and 10 tvs. Unless you're being sarcastic, if you are dismiss thi comment, honestly it wouldn't surprise me if this is real.
11:28 - when these were built, laundry machines were a luxury. Shared laundry facilities made something that was expensive for most something they could use.
Vienna used to be the 5th big city in the world. Its incredible small compared to the current top 5 cities.
Vienna got currently 1.9 million inhabitants while the 5th city in the world got 25 million inhabitants.
The most important thing to understand is that capitalism/socialism is a spectrum, not a binary thing.
With Corporatism at one extreme and Communism at the other. Both among the most vile ideologies/systems humanity has come up with. Finding the sweet spot in between can do wonders.
True, and America is at the capitalist extremes. And think it good 👼
Down with thee socialist Satan 👿
It is my American right to pay and do more for less!
@@StergiosMekras communism itself isn't bad. It's that it gets bastardized by corrupt governments.
@@StergiosMekrasYup, the moderate systems tend to be the ones that fit the right balance between money, society, infrastructure, services and many more.
Yes also people dont understand what works in Sweden and Scandinavia would never work in a place like the US...its the people and the culture not vice versa. Thats why such extreme utopic systems fail in almost any other country. ( it barely works in Sweden where I live to be fair and will continue to get worse as migrant population flips and richer, educated group of people move to capitalist countries due to lack of oppurtunity )
Best video I have ever seen on UA-cam, and you are the first I have seen covering it. Good for you, Ryan. If you have read my comments over the last year, you know that I have railed on this subject at length. I have never heard of this Assemblyman before, but I am going to contact him to see how I can help. We know how much of a problem this is here in Indiana, but everywhere I have been in the United States it is so. I am not personally afraid of being associated with socialized ideas. I am in favor a a socialized form of capitalism. I believe that incentivization is a good thing, but I also believe that everyone should have full access, and that includes full access to medical care, housing, education, childcare, eldercare and more. I am not convinced that this would fail among the American people as an idea, most of us are suffering and coping without, I think the biggest hurdle would be having the will of the people adhered to. We do not have the ability to have binding national plebiscites, and we do not have a direct democracy. However, the monied interests, big business, the rich, and the uneducated, buy into a world where nothing every changes (except for the rich and powerful). I hate to sound so harsh. I hope I live long enough to see equality in this country, but at sixty-one, I am not so sure. Still, I will fight and educate for this accessible kind of inclusive U.S. So sorry to see your "Head Exploding" and the anger on your face during this, but that discomfort, I have found, is necessary for us to follow through in taking our developing ideas and helping to bring them forward and hopefully into action. Peace
5:30 Housing being a right and private property are not mutually exclusive. The UK for example has a system, where as far as I understand it there are government subsidized social homes, at a reduced rent. But tenants have sometimes the option to eventually buy the home and own it as private property.
12:30 medical inventions and progress in medicine also happens in countries where healthcare is affordable. Pharma companies are a separate entity from health care providers and should stay that way. It’s not like people don’t pay for medicine in other countries, price caps just ensure people don’t die from diabetes because they can’t afford to pay thousands of dollars for it every month…
Ryan Wuzer is a nice guy and makes nice videos but he's the usual ignorant American who never left Indiana and believes that outside the USA they are still in the stone age
Surely, surely, the incentive to innovate heath care is saving people's lives and curing life threatening diseases.
You're wrong about incentivising in medicine: Russia was the 1st with a Covid vaccine, UK 2nd. Both have national health services. What the US has wrong is zoning where shops are in 1 zone, suburbs another and 'cheaper' housing in another zone.
Wut
The zoning laws are basically a result of the post WWII ideals. You don't want noisy factories next to your home, so you keep residential, commercial and industrial areas separated. And the only proper way to move between them is by car, because everyone has to enjoy the freedom of their own car.
And now there are massively unbalanced zoning laws and horrible public transport.
Mixed use, medium density zoning would do a lot for that. Like the typical 3-4 storey building with homes at the top and a shop at the ground, along the entire street. You don't have the big skyscrapers and blocks for housing, neither the absolutely low density suburbs, you can walk to the store, and if you want to go to a place further away, there is a bus or a tram. Which are viable, because the density is high enough.
New York, and especially Manhattan are actually a good example of denser population with working public transport.
Yeah, except that the crap made by the Russian fascists didn't work at all, it wasn't even used widely there.
That's what's nice about places like Paris, for example. Your shopping is in walking distance. People walk or ride their bike, so less traffic. Good public transportation and metro. Living in a car dependent city is also limiting for certain groups of people, like the poor, disabled, and seniors.
The thing about the laundry @11:17 - when viewed in context, the video is comparing the formerly non-existent laundry in slums to all residents having access to laundry, albeit shared. Mind you, this was a century ago when the kind of washing machines we have today were not yet widespread.
Laundy in 1925/1930's was done with a tub of hot water and a washboard... so shared laundry faciities was for sure a step up...besides that helping each other out made life a little easier.
At that time in Vienna, not every house or flat has its own laundry. So some had to go to the river or to laundry shops.
But to have your own laundry in your appartment building was a big advantage.
And it's not like you use the place 24/7 anyway
@@HappyBeezerStudiosExactly. If multiple families share the facilities you can also install much better, more reliable, industrial grade equipment. It's just so much more efficient.
Shared laundries were a very common thing in new buildings up until about the late 80s. Then, with the changing social structures (less stay-at-home mums) they unfortunately became more and more impractical (as everyone would reserve time slots in the evening).
Social and Socialist are not the same. Just as for example Islam and Islamist is not the same. One is the extreme form of the other.
I agree with the first statement but I don't think Socialist is the extreme form of being Social. It's a different politic concept. You can live in a social way in almost every political system.
@@JimBobele I meant Social in a more political sense, as in social democracy or social welfare, but these things can exist in a market economy. In Germany we call our economic system "social market economy"
@@bananenmusli2769 German here too ;-)
@@bananenmusli2769 Social democracy is literally a subideology of socialism and the early SPD was basically just a Marx fan club, they were seen as a party of organized marxism. Their European party is even called "Party of European Socialists" and they are part of the "Socialist International". And the establishment of the idea that a state should provide a certain amount of social welfare was a direct response to socialist movements, it was meant to reduce their influence. And therefore wouldn't have happened without those evil radicals. ;)
And just putting a "social" before "market economy" doesn't actually mean anything, it's just supposed to sound nicer. Even back then when the CDU popularized the term (as the opposite to "anti-social planned ecnonomy") it was criticized even by the Christian Democratic Employees' Association as a propagandistic and euphemist buzzword. The SPD originally used "democratic socialism" instead, but later adopted the term social market economy, even though had called that very term originally "meaningless".
A shared laundry is better than no laundry. 😊
Shared laundry means if you do t have a washing machine, you can go to the laundry room where they are a few big washing and drying machines and they are provided for residents of the apartment complex
About incentivization, many researches and innovations are pushed forward by public grants and and public research facilities. Private investment often only comes after, when a profit is sure to be made, or at least compensate the risks. Not even mentionning that engineers, scientists, and so on, much like any other workers, would be much more incentivized by owning the fruit of their work and research than by doing it for someone else's profit.
I think it's the most of research, is funded by Governments
My cousin is living in one of these social housing in Vienna. He took over the apartment from his mother after she passed away. It was a bit outdated previously but in the last 3 years it has been completely renovated and brought to up to date standards.
Vienna was maybe the 5th largest city in the world at that time 1918... but defenetly not today.
Just look at China, they have more then 5 citys with 15-30 million people in it. And Vienna does not have even 2 million.
Another problem nowadays is that in some big cities like London, New York, Paris etc. Apartments and houses, especially in densely populated areas, are simply treated as assets. Super rich people buy 20 or more houses without letting anyone live there or renting it out at the time. This of course reduces the supply in this region, which then increases the prices and then they are sold further. Sadly a Common practice today.
And what this guy says is far, far, far from reality, the average price for an apartment in Vienna is between 15 and 25 euros per square meter, basic rent. Costs for electricity, water, heating and other utilities not included.
Note: Susidized housing for low income is also know as "rent-to-income" . Your rent will be a percentage of the household income. For example : 2 families living side by side, both apartments same, one family makes 1000 month the other 500 month means, at 6% one pays 60 one pays 30 . When someone makes over a specific amount, lets say 3000 a month there is built in a clause that the top price is paid, but still lower than market value.
It wasn't mentioned in the video, but Vienna also has a functioning public transport system for €365 a year.
Don't forget, for 1095 Euros a year, Austrians can use all public transport in the entire country. My British friends always talk about making the companies they work for open offices in Vienna and moving them here.
@@sos61 OMG, das ist ja nice. Ist das neu oder war ich einfach nur blind?
@@miragebarrage320 das gibt es seit 26.10.2021. Ich sitze gerade im Zug von München nach Wien um wohlfeile 19 Euro für den bayrischen Teil der Strecke. Das Ding ist wirklich genial.
@@sos61and kids can pay 85€ a year and use all public transportation in Vienna, Lower Austria and Burgenland. I don’t know if something similar exists in the other states, our kids only need this one for school.
The senior citizens also have a cheaper option for the public transportation, my aunt uses it.
It's free in Montréal for people 65 and over
It's complicated. You can have social things like housing and also have privatized energy companies.
I live in a social housing apartment. It's 420 euros a month. As long as I want to live here, I can because I have a contract.
I got this place by handing in a paper everyone used to get when they were 18.
When you were ready, you could go up and say, I'd like an apartment now and you'd have a choice of about three that you'd go visit.
Funny story, I once walked by where I live and thought, I'd like to live here I hink, this looks nice. The first apartment I get offered ...
Very nice anecdote. I'm glad you got this chance. In the UK, 1 in 200 people are now homeless. It's disgraceful as illegal immigrants get put in hotels and brits sleep on the streets
@@no-oneinparticular7264 Oh we're getting there too. America 2.0 I call it. I live here for 30+ years now and it's not like it was when I got here for sure.
The Vienna segment describes the reality of early XXth century, so access to laundry room was revolutionaly. Plumbing and private bathrooms were not common. Now, of course, every apartment has a bathroom, and most of them a washing machine.
I guess, coming from Germany, that shared Laundries refers to a shared space to do your personal Laundry in, keeping in mind that todays laundry appliances where not yet the norm back in about the 1930 years.
We call those rooms "Waschküche" and it is the space int he house where laundry - machines and dryers are kept,
There's usually an outlet hard-wireconnected to each flats e-circuit and a faucet with water clock to show the suppliers exactly how much water was consumed.
The top fifth NOT being able to benefit from social housing means that 80% of all people DO benefit from it!
So only the VERY rich (top 20%) are not included!
And regarding communal washing machines. That is common in most of Sweden even today. Why would every single household need to buy a washing machine and dryer each when you use it only an hour or two per week maximum?
Besides, the communal washing machines are usually larger and take a lot more laundry per run (which uses a lot less water). So it is a lot better for the environment and your individual economy!
They can benefit, but not everyone will. The housing is still limited, so the poorer someone is, the better the chances he gets into it.
Why don't US citizens understand the difference between social and socialist?
One can be the perfect Democrat (not the US party) AND be social.
Social means treating humans as humans, socialist results in eliminating private property
"socialist results in eliminating private property"
Not technically true.
Socialist involves sharing stuff that really shouldn't be horded by one person or private company. People die in the US due to lack of socialist policies for all, just the rich get them.
Where did you get this idea from?
@@micixduda "Where did you get this idea from?"
Karl Marx - The capital - critic of a political economy
glad i could help you....
@@Sahnor Not helpful. Critique of capitalism is not about socialists and how they run their countries.
Do you have any examples of socialists countries, where there was no private property?
@@Sahnor where Marx talked about private property of MEANS OF PRODUCTION
Good point about innovation and incentive. At some point, incentive to innovate becomes incentive to cheap out, when innovation is no longer necessary.
When I lived in an apartment building 35 years ago with a shared laundry, I loved it. We had a washingmachine in our apartment too but it was heaven to take the dirty laundry and a book with you to the shared one and leave your husband to take care of the children and a little alonetime for yourself a couple of hours, and then go back with clean and dry laundry. No extra costs. So relaxing. It was 3 modern washingmachines and a tumbledryer. Now I live in a house and have just my own machine and it's enough for me and my husband. But we struggled when our 5 kids were small. The laundrybasket was never empty.
Weirdly, while America rejects anything tainted with socialism in almost every aspect of society, in sports they've embraced the idea: in the nlf draft etc., the weakest performing teams get first choices as a sort of way of redistributing talent and resources to help the underperforming teams; in Europe we have extreme capitalism in sports, faiing teams are relegated and replaced with the best performing teams from lower divisions. Socialism for sports, but not much else 🤷♂️
Indeed, be thankful for our European system. Even if it is slow, it is a fair as we can currently get.
But if the worst team does it right, they'll become the best team. in sports, the best team becomes the worst team and the worst team becomes the best team. it's a continuing cycle. look at the Spurs(my favorite team). for 22 straight years they won 60% of their regular season games, never missed the playoffs and won 5 championships. but after the big three retired, their success stopped(even with pop still being there) and became one of the worst teams in the NBA. ending up with them getting the first pick in the Draft. look at the Atlanta Braves 14 straight NL East titles than after it was broken from in the early to mid-2000s they were one of the worst teams in baseball. but due to their drafting and development, they are now the best team in baseball winning 6 NL East titles in a row.
@@rwwilson21 my problem isn't with the draft, but if instead of your favourite team going through a bad patch it was a fellow citizen who fell on hard times, started loosing income, health insurance, rent money etc., nobody is really going to step in with a draft to save him , he'll end up sick and potentially homeless. A society that develops a basically socialised system to protects it's sports teams but not it's citizens has problems
@@robt2778 that's what a family and friends is for. to help them out when needed. not a stranger 3,0000 miles away. why should I give a shit about person, who has no relation to me, struggling, when I'm a struggling middle-class person? See you say it's a problem but if random person asked you for your year's salary, you would said FUCK YOU! everybody would. it's called the human condition.
@@rwwilson21 strange then how a country taking 50% tax from its population is also the median wealthiest net worth per citizen in the world. GASP
Vienna WAS the 5th largest city at the time. Maybe he made a mistake 😂
Americans get drained by their Billionaires and Millionaires. As your mind is primed to. Obvious by the statements your made first. You do it without knowing why 😢
By the way - quality of your houses in America is worse too.
Europeans think way more about such things.
In Germany we organize Demos against high rent prices 💪 You should organize such demos too, (even if you have your own house) yours Kai from Germany
About 15 years ago I live in the middle of Turku(or its the southern side), next to Finlands biggest store at one point. Next to the green park area in Turku. In a 2 room+ half of the apartment as open space containing the kitchen and the place you came in+ big bathroom(was like 68m2) terraced house with my own parking spot, shed and tiny garden spot. Cost 750 euros per month not containing internet or electricity or water.
Now I rent an appartment in a high-rise building at the edge of Esbo so as faar as you get to still be living in the capital region. The apartment always points toward the sun so +40 or above is normal during summer, like stuff melt in there from the heat, most of my neighbors don't even speak my language(their kids do speak it) and theres drug needles behind the house, rats running everywhere, every now and then having the extermination crews there to kills some bugs. Like picture a slum but in Finland. The apartment is 38m2 with really cramped space except that 1 main room. They take 720 euros per month from me, it includes water and internet but not electricity.
My point is that in 15 years a "I will kill myself apartment" has the same rent as a "I could start a family here" had. Its really insane and the funny part is that its our government that pays the bill so tax payers money go poof.
The biggest difference in the wealthy that I can see today compared to back then is that when they invested back in the day they didn't expect a return right away so it was mostly long term. Now they invest and demand a retrun every year and the easiest way to increase company profits by 5% to be able to pay out to the shareholder is increasing the rent. Like before a house crumbles today they have taken out its price insane amount of times, while back in the day they buildt it and were happy with some profit. Don't dot fck, see the point in the mentality change.
they share laundry rooms, where everybody can put their own washingmachine/dryer, that way, all the noisy washingmachines/dryers are in the basement, what keeps the rest of the building more quiet ;)
The "Profits = Innovation" it's maybe the biggest lie of the so called "free market capitalism".
The real things that lead to innovation is the quantity of money / time you invest in an Idea, and this quantity can be investet by privates or by public entities as well.
As a Dane living in the socialist hellhole Denmark, I can tell you, it's not easy to live with free healthcare and education, 6 weeks payed vacation and a 37 hour workweek and the thought that my tax pays for the health and education of people I don't even know!
It weren't until I were 20 years old before I bought my first house for money I had earned slaving away as a Machinist for the couple of years after I ended my 3.5 year education!
There is plenty of R&D and innovation in countries with healthcare that isn’t for profit
fun facta about Vienna´s housing, both public and private: it´s forbidden by law for bulding companies to build same-sized apartments in the same building. This has the incentive to attract low-, mid- and medium-high- income families to live in the same building and coexist day to day. This eliminates the creation of projects/slums/ghettoes, and also makes the city safer since people usually don´t break into their next door neighbour no matter how poor and desperate they are, especially if you interact with them on a day to day basis
The innovations in healthcare come from doctors and scientists, who are usually motivated by helping people.
The guy who invented insulin for example never patented it, because he didn't want anyone to die for being poor...
The insurance business does not innovate.
The pharma industry actually makes more profit, if everyone can use the products.
Doctors can make more innovations if they can attend to everyone.
Scientists make progress if they are funded.