That “mother” dumped Jonathan on her elderly parents and he tortured them. Today’s teens can be very dangerous; it was justifiable homicide at most. What’s wrong with our system? That boys mother should be ashamed of herself for she’s just as guilty as her mother.
Agree. I feel not emptying her gun could have made her end result so much better. Just saying it looked bad. Super sad. How bad do you have to mess with your grandma to make her want to shoot him? Parents couldnt handle him.
Amen my friend, I was going to post the same thing. It appears to be the norm. Frustrated parents who failed in raising their children correctly, foist their child on the grandparent. Then the grandparent loses their quality of life or even their own life or lives. The daughter should have shrunk in embarrassment rather than center attention on herself as a so called 'victim.''
To shoot your grandchild, 10 TIMES is murder!!! That so called grandmother wasn't scared for her life by shooting him that many times, she was ANGRY. Those of you commenting how this grandmother was at her wits end,etc,etc...it would be best to research this case . Listen to the 911 call, it's horrifying.
You 3 are smoking crack. Justify murder because they said yes to taking in their grand son or not kicking him out. Boy I hope not a 1 of you 3 have kids. Piss pour logic
Yeah. I feel like she should have NEVER allowed her grandson to live with her. He should have lived with his parents period. She most likely feared for her life.
She was more than likely traumatized by her grandson. I was in a situation similar to hers and knew it had to stop FOR ME. I severed ties with him and took proof to the courts of abuse. The Prosecutor took my case immediately and helped me and saved my life.
I can't say in what capacity but I worked in Probation and it would astound me that they'd turn over juvenile offenders to their grandparents - more often than not - the grandparents were on drugs too. Just because you're old doesn't make you a saint - for the ones that weren't on drugs - they can't handle a kid that is bigger, stronger and faster than them and I was like - you already screwed up your kid - let's hand another kid over to you to screw up....
Can't the grandparents say no? At 17 years old, he could go to a group home until he was old enough to be released to the streets - where he obviously wanted to be.
Point is the old woman did it. Not who messed up responsibility. What. A silly reply blaming the actions of who cares for who when the fact is the old woman did kill. It is not rocket science. Blame games are stupid logic. No disrespect. Just my take. You have yours I respect. I was not there nor you..This is just surface info. Nobody watching knows diddly about what occurred. Just people ranting and assuming they know what happened. Funny to me. 🙋🏻♀️
@@Dawn_LR She was afraid of Johnathan (The toxicology report and lab reports showed that Hoffman was taking synthetic marijuana called Spice or K2.) This judge was a fool. He needed a Green Beret sitter not a 74 yr old grandmother.
Yep i was staying in a homeless shelter in DHSNYC Shelter in 2020 and this dude was tripping off K2 in the dorm room i was staying in i'm so glad i got out of there
Did you fully listen? He was arrested with K2 in his system. Bye the time he was killed it was well out of his system as he was sitting in jail. I swear some of you only listen to what you want to listen to 🤦
@@TheTrollTrollyYeti did you fully read both comments? Firzt off no one said he was on k2 during the murder, second off if u knew ANYTHING when doing dangerous psychosis inducing drugs you can NEVER COMR BACK. I swear you are illiterate cant even freakin read
@@TheTrollTrollyYeti so how about that mr illiterate? How does it feel to be illiterate? How does it feel to make yourself look so stupid anything u now say just makes it even better for me. Whos trolling who now? Ur so illiterate ur own stupidity is trolling you. How pathetic and dumb. I really do love when morons like you comment on my comments. I shred every ounce of dignity you thought u had in your own intelligence and prove people like you your own worth when u run ur mouth. I wrote something this long to test your literacy i hope u read the entire thing
@@TheTrollTrollyYeti also 1 last message to such a profound MORON LIKE YOURSELF. Anyone CAN GO TO JAIL GET OUT AND GET HIGH AGAIN ROFL. TAKES MERE SECONDS TO HIT A PIPE WITH K2 IN IT LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD DAM i just keep cracking up at your own stupidity. AND K2 IS ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR DRUGS IN JAIL BECAUSE IT ISNT TESTED FOR. DID YOU KNOW THIS LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HOPE IM HELPING YOU BECOME A BIT MORE LITERATE. IM EVEN USING BLOCK LETTERING SINCE IT MAY HELP GIVEN YOUR CLEAR MENTAL DEFICIENCIES
WE DON'T KILL PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY USE DRUGS, WE JUST DON'T HAVE IN OUR HOME PEOPLE THAT USES DRUGS...GRANDMA HAD JUST TO SEND JONATHAN BACK TO HIS PARENTS JONATHAN WAS HIS PARENTS RESPONSIBILITY NOT GRANDMA'S!!!
Well said! I have been a moron in the past. Every ones who care about me tried to warn me " Do not spend time with a drug addict abuser " As an naive ignorant fool I was did not listen ' I had to first hand experience it " Long story short I fast realised they were right all along " I simple cut out all contact with the drug addict abuser.
Somehow, they (grandparents) think they can save them. But he had No respect for her. She worked all those years and now has to spend the rest in prison. SAD!
Love 💕 how they used AI on their opening screen 📺 shot to entice us to watch ‼️Those 3 blond AI models sitting on a bench in a court room 👩⚖️ priceless 😂
I knew they were AI, that’s what called my attention and I hate that they did that, but the title of the video called me enough to click regardless. The power of true crime.
I'd buy the "gene pool" defense and cut grandma some slack. Kid was dangerous, but so was her own irresponsible daughter AND herself! Or the "gee, what a surprise" defense.
@@HeronPoint2021 That's no reason to murder somebody. Kid's a little druggie, just find his stash when he's out with his friends, call the cops to come get it and bust him, and then evict him when he's in the slammer. He's a little dirtball, he's going to do a life sentence on the installment plan or OD, who cares which?
Courts want a clear, simple path: the defendant is on trial, not what should have been done by a bad parent. Courts usually do not look at the big picture.
Those defending Layne, she chose to empty a round into him, reload and then as he begged for his life emptied another round into him. That’s cold blooded. Just because someone looks like a sweet grandma doesn’t mean she is one.
@@jennifermenth-pavel1260 Screw the junkie kid but as usual people are only trying to defend her cause she's a vvoman, had it been a an they'd be screaming "he's a monster, hope he roots in hell".
The third one (Diane Lovejoy) is a very intresting story, actually. The Hit Man she hired arrived too early at the pre-arranged spot and had a problem... he needed to go to the Boy's Room. Instead of leaving and trying again some other day, he LITERALLY crapped his pants while waiting for Diane's soon-to-be-ex, and left chunks behind for the Cops to use his DNA to tag him. How sick is that?! 🤮🤢🤮
In the case of Lane, why would you think the grandmother could handle your miscreant if you can't as the mother? I thought it was real low-down that she gave a thumbs up at the sentencing knowing she put that woman in that predicatment. Granny snapped. Point. Blank. Period.
In fairness she shot him 10 times though....that's jail-worthy for sure and the lowest end of the sentence (20 years) is actually appropriate for the given crime. HOWEVER, should not be more than that, and it isn't murder-2... I am sympathetic to the defendant because hers, like so many sentences here, are (IMO) disproportionate and in many cases over-charged with too high a crime. Lots of these are 2nd-degree murder convictions but I can't see how - some of them are, but others are clearly manslaughter - this would probably be a *clear* example of voluntary manslaughter (a more serious case of it to be sure) based on what is provided. in Duarte's case as well - it is reckless homicide, which is the very top end of involuntary manslaughter with aggravating circumstances (so that you can get above the typical statutory max with no sympathy over it). That's two levels below murder-2. The court system is really messed up -throwing everyone in the same category if there is a remote chance the prosecutor can get a murder-2 conviction. That's not justice, that's borderline vengeance.
With all due respect, the jury people probably don't have children or grandchildren. The grandma had a cursed life with that daughter of hers. That daughter is evil.
Ummm if you hear the 911 call from her grandson, he's already been shot and telling the 911 operator she's gonna shoot me again, and she does after he's already been subdued she had no reason to continue shooting him which you can also hear on the 911 call
That poor grandmother shouldn't serve a day .why didn't his mother take care of her son .An old woman is now paying for her daughter's bad parenting. So sad .
@@dustinreed7667 I don't see her as a saint but why is he with her if she isn't and why did the mother leave him there...the mother neglected him. why are you not saying anything about that. I that never happened the grandmother would not have had a chance to kill him. He was in her house.
@@traeeeee69the mother didn't neglect him his sibling had a brain tumor and was getting that treated they were going to move but Jonathan didn't want to Lane took him in saying she would take care of him and let him finish out his senior year thus she did empty 10 rounds into him even chasing him up to his room so do your damn research and stop siding with a grandmother that killed her grandson
I just feel the need to point out that in the case of Michelle Blair, none of the claims that her kids were sexually abusing each other were ever substantiated. In fact, she tortured them and beat them until they would admit to anything just to make her stop. She was clearly angry and delusional because of her own childhood abuse.
Having seen the Jodi Arias trial, it was clear that she is a complete psychopath and narcissist. She butchered her boyfriend while he was defenseless in a shower. She first said she wasn't there when he was killed, then said two people dressed as ninjas killed him and threatened her, then changed it again to say she killed him in self-defense. The jusr convicted her, but unfortunately, she did not receive the death penalty.
Thatstory is the truth The da asked that women on the stand That maybe she killed him She was stocking him and messed with his car tires it was HER ....A WOMEN THAT TOOK THE STAND EVEN THE DA KNOW WATCH THE COURT HEARING GOD HAS ALREADY TOLD ME THAT MAN THAT WAS WITH HER WILL CONFESS HE KILL THE MORMAN GUY IN PRISON. TELLING EVERYONE IT WAS HIM AND A WOMEN.
She’s definitely a psychopath and narcissist but Travis Alexander was worse than that. Not saying he deserved to die-just saying he was worse than her.
The thing about divorces in America is the fact that they are dragged out for too long, a reason for anger and frustration to brood and then explode. It is almost like the courts want it that way along with the atternies !!!
@@samhain1894 Also keep in mind that televised trials are often faked trials. What!! Yes, you have been subjected to fake incidents and subsequent faked trials, all as part of Operation Chaos. You can look up the program's history at Wikipedia, but it did not end in the 1970s like they claim. It continued and expanded to create fear and discord in America, and you have to admit it has been very successful! Everyone is living in an exaggerated state of fear for their safety, and suspicion of their fellow citizen. When you make everyone afraid you make them easy to control, and more likely to buy drugs, alcohol, therapy, and useless junk from Amazon. You also do more than Planned Parenthood could ever do to control the population size by making women and men hate each other and not form families. Historically, TV cameras were always unwelcome in the courtroom; judges were afraid of looking bad, and defense lawyers didn't want to prejudice any future juries their clients might face. But a few exceptions were made, and now the public thinks every trial is televised. Most people can't fathom that the intelligence agencies of their own country would go to all of this trouble and expense to subject them to psychological operations, but they do.
The judges that let criminals out of prison. With little or no time. For doing heinous crimes. Only to be released to reoffend. Needs to take notes. From every judge in this video. On how to correctly sentence monsters.👹
As a mother who’s son battled with drug issues I can understand this poor grandmothers ordeal. It is sad that the court did side with her at one point I wished my son dead I even threw hot water at him. He was cruel and dangerous. Those who don’t know don’t understand
She felt she needed to protect herself.... and was given life...no justice was served there...now if the drug addict killed his grandmother.... they probably would have given him a year and probation....I hate leftist ideology...
There is no excuse to shoot your grandchild 10 times he was not attacking her she is a nasty vicious old hag! and you throwing hot water over your own son and wishing him dead shows that you are the same! what evil unnatural disgusting examples of women you are!
He should had stayed with his Mama. Grandma had done her time & I believe she was trying some tough love and he was disrespectful. Although, he didn't deserve to die.
Prior abuse is not a reason for injuring or killing someone. Lots of people are abused every day and they do not take it out on other people. The abuse claim is nothing more than a convenient excuse.
I stopped watching one True Crime UA-camr when they started to justify certain killers motives. You’re absolutely correct. A persons past doesn’t justify their criminal actions.
I totally agree. Also, if you have ever been abused….you would NEVER abuse another. You would never inflict that pain onto another (especially a loved one). Definitely an excuse. Every action is a choice.
Ive seen the full length story of Mitchelle Blaire and her extremely unfortunate children. The torture of her son was carried out in the bathroom, often in the tub where she scalded his beaten body and spirit with hot water. She beat and tortured her son and daughter and the torture lasted for days until their little systems just gave out. She kept their bodies in a freezer for months and she was caught when she got evicted. She had more children and the house was filthy.
Pushed to the limit? She could have kicked him out and got a restraining order. Youre excusing cold blooded murder. She shot him, and while he pleaded for his life she reloaded and shot again over ten times. I'll never understand why people think just because someone is old that means they're a saint.
@@parisinthe30sx Had she ever got into trouble before? How old are you? Do you realize how vulnerable you feel when you get elderly? Her daughter is apparently an irresponsible demon calling for the max sentence.
@@flower-the-earth It was not self-defense. You seem to be making too many assumptions. This case is way crazier than "he's a young man and she's an old woman so he must have been attacking her." It was recorded. He'd already been shot multiple times, he called 911, it's desperate and pretty harrowing. She shoots him more while he's on the phone with dispatch. Even if her life was genuinely in danger before the call, that is not called self-defense anywhere.
My God we are surrounded by CRAZY PEOPLE...they could be anywhere or anybody....someone you know...someone you work with....you have no idea the INSANE amount of people able to commit such act of depravity.....
That mom was partly responsible for her son's demise. She didn't want the responsibility of possibly turning his life around in getting him medical help, so she puts the burden on her own elderly mother. Not that the grandmother should have pulled the trigger 10 times. But knowing her own mother could possibly have had an explosive temper, this woman should've never given her son over to the older lady to raise.
Lane. 70 years old. No history of violence. No crime nal record. The lad was a drug addled youth. He'd No brains or experience of life. Intimidating selfish person. The grandma should not be jailed. The parents of the kid ?? Why didn't you look after him ??
I read that the mom and dad moved to another town and the kid wanted to finish school with his friends and the parents let him stay with his grandparents to finish out school instead of starting a new school in his last year. The grandmother was apparently very controlling and violent. She took shooting lessons without the grandpa knowing. I think I read the grandpa didn't even know grandma got a gun. Read that the grandpa was afraid of the grandmother. She sounds like a psycho or true narcissist. She emptied the gun in the teen, he crawled to call 911, she went to reload, then emptied it again in him while he was on with 911. She did this while the grandpa went out to walk the dog and she even asked him how long he would be gone. I know we all want to assume our experience or a common TV narrative is what occured here; that a drugged out grandson was a threat to his meek grandparents. I know I initially jumped to that conclusion, too. But the truth is what's important, not our assumptions based on our own past or TV shows depicting drugged out teens terrorizing their grandparents. This case goes against the norm. Now the mom of the kid not only lost him, but has to live with being slandered by people who are making assumptions about her.
@@EscapeFromCrazytown Granny used a Glock 17 (9mm) to shoot the kid. A "non-restricted magazine" Glock 17 holds 17 rounds and a "restricted magazine" Glock 17 holds 10 rounds. The police investigation shows she shot "at him" 9 times and "struck him" with six rounds. I've read conflicting articles stating he had been struck five times and some stating six times. Of course, all of the articles relay, "according to the autopsy" or "court records show." The actual autopsy report isn't available online. I can't find anything stating she performed two mag dumps into the kid. If, by your claim, she emptied her Glock 17 twice she would have fired 21 times if she used a "restricted magazine" (assuming she had one round in the chamber during the first mag dump) or 35 times if she used a "non-restricted magazine" (assuming she had one round in the chamber during the first mag dump). The murder occurred on May 9, 2012. As of today, Michigan does not have a "high capacity magazine" ban. That means all Glocks sold in Michigan come with "standard capacity" or "non-restricted magazines."
I disagree with the sentencing for the Grandma who shot her grandson. The guy was on drugs and threatening to her. His own parents couldn't control him. What made them think their elderly mother could? His parents are the ones who let him down. Not Grandma.
The image of those 3 women before the beginning of the video wasn't even shown. I feel for the first case, Samdra Lane, the teacher/ grandmother that had to deal with a psychotic grandson from drug induced frenzied repeatedly and received no help from her daughter ( his mother) the police or state dealing with his mental/ drug conditions. She was forced into a self defense state.
Whoah whoah whoah, hold on a minute.... First of all, who feels sorry for a grown adult SHOOTING A CHILD 12 times?!!! (Or was it 7? Maybe 10??) No matter what the amount, that farrrr exceeds "self defense" for a facking KID! And it's her own grandson! Secondly..... This whole bit about a "drug induced rage"... it's freaking marijuana! That is absolutely, positively not. even. a. thing! Scientific studies have long been proven that THC is NOT. ADDICTIVE. So we're not talking about a grown man going through some psychotic break after abruptly stopping cocaine, crystal meth, or anything hardcore for that matter. Granny just wasn't for the weed, it was against her rules.... Damn sure didn't necessitate a shooting, let alone an excessive shooting! Third... I'm seeing an awful LOT of "poor Grandma, the Mom is the one that should be sentenced!" Put your rage faces away, the specifics were not given as to why psycho granny had this CHILD. (And or a facking loaded gun in the car with him!) Remember, she was a school teacher, so she spent many years being well trained on HOW TO DEAL WITH KIDS. How to punish appropriately. Makes me wonder what her surviving students had to endure. Finally, all while keeping in mind that this witch SHOT. HER OWN. GRANDCHILD. MANY, MANY TIMES, I'll reiterate that we don't know exactly why she had the child, but even *IF* he was "dumped on her", which I doubt, she could have very easily... A: sent him back to his parent(s) B: sent him to juvie C: had him admitted to children's psych ward D: put him in "rehab" E: given him to the state Bottom line? Absolutely ZERO compassion for the Grandma of the year here. Too many options, and no way was she actually "fighting a kid to save her own life"... that would take one shot, maybe 2 if u missed. And there is absolutely no possible scenerio where I can see a grandmother pulling the car over with her grand CHILD in it, with a loaded gun, feeling any need to shoot if he's a kid and unarmed. SHE'S the one with the crystal clear rage issues!
@@trishlong7702 As for feeling sorry for the grandmother, I don’t. I’m with you on that. There was no reason to shoot him 10 times. He had to have grown up around her and you’d think there was some level of love during this time. So 10 times is excessive. As for his drug use it was not marijuana he was using. It was spice which will induce psychotic behavior. A neighbor close to me woke up at 3AM to find her son who was in his 40’s slithering like a snake across the kitchen floor. It wasn’t very long later his daughter found him on the floor dead. I don’t think he had ever gotten violent with anyone but it can kill you.
Cause it's a typical tactic that vvomen have used throughout history, trying to make themselves seem all poor and innocent in order to receive sympathy, which society always usually grants them seeing as they put them on a pedestal.
Yeah that annoyed me too, though I think I'd still prefer that, to all these people referring to death as deleted or deleting yourself. I get the feeling the people saying things like that are sicker and more empty than the ones leaving us.
I agree with all with the exception of the Sandra Lane case. In this case the mother of the grandson should also go to jail. She was the one who should have been responsible for her son. The grandmother was left with the responsibility to raise this irresponsible drug addicted idiot and Ms Lane reached the point she couldn't handle the boy any longer. If the mother who failed as a parent had taken responsibility for her son, this wouldn't have happened.
K2 can cause psychosis, he may have been off his face. Also why was she having to deal with her drug addict grandson at her age? Where was the mother? Not saying it was justified, but there's more layers to the story than her being "evil".
Any adult who can torture and beat a child to death, I feel nothing . If you can commit such a horrifying crime, you have to take the punishment . Who pray tell felt sorry for the poor defenceless child.
In the Welch case, I just cannot imagine that parents would treat their newborn like that. The mother tried to shift the blame, but she was there, she could have fled with the baby, she could have called the police
The woman who killed her grandson bought a gun, took shooting lessons, and had her husband leave to walk the dog and told him don't come back until I tell you. The man and the dog grew tired they were out so long and the husband had no knowledge of the gun at all. There was blood in every room through the house where Johnathan was chased and he was on the phone with 911 begging for help because he had already been shot and was shot again during the call after she hunted him down when he briefly got away. Gun shots were heard by the police when they pulled up to try to save him. He almost made it but the extra shooting killed him. Every one that knew him said he was funny and non violent and would deescalate situations at school with humor. Every one that knew him loved him and it was true about the drugs but not about him being a threat at all like she tried to claim. He was even shot in the back from running away from her. She flipped out over a dirty drug test. She was not afraid of him but rather was furious because she could not force her will on him.
Your welcome. There are always two sides to a story and she was counting on her past as an educator and her age to get her out of point blank shooting him but fortunately the police and detectives were thorough and figured it out.@@greenie2390
Juries do not decide the sentence the judge does that. All the jury does is to determine guilt or innocence, the judge pronounces guilt and gives the sentence.
That's one thing i love about America they give out proper sentences and stick by them. In England for murder life is around 25 years if that and they get out half way through their sentence for good behaviour 😳
This says Michelle Blair found out her older kids were molesting the younger ones but that was never proven. The word of a crazy woman who viciously abused all of her children is the only proof. The kids probably didn't do anything at all and if they did she should've taken the whole family for help. She was abused and it made her so hyper-sensitive that she thought it was happening. If you torcher anyone long enough they'll admit anything you tell them to.
They hadn't molested their brother. The mother is unhinged and I think she truly believed her delusion otherwise she'd have been remorseful. Very dangerous woman.
@@nixm9093 I think ppl are misunderstanding me. I don't think the kids molested their siblings. That so called mom was molested as a child and it caused her to be so mentally ill she poured boiling water on that poor child until he lied and confessed.... I just meant that even if it had been true that a 8 or 10 yr old child did that to a sibling a decent parent would get help and counseling for the whole family. Kids don't do that to others unless something horrible has happened to them. Hurt ppl, hurt ppl.
But as you can see, nobody wants to talk about that. Women can be just nasty as all hell and receive just a fraction of their male counter-parts. Women are coddled and pandered to.
Right?! Welcome to good ol demoncratic America, smh. The law may have been recently changed, but your logic is still sound--- it's been like this for many, many years. Total contradiction
Although entertaining as it seemed why use thumbnails no connection to what is being seen ? I think a thumbnail should at least be a snapshot of what is going to be seen.
You obviously didn't look into the case. Sandras' husband told her several times to send the kid back to his mother and Sandra refused every time. The day she killed her grandson she told her husband to go for a walk and when he was gone she killed her grandson. It was premediated and she had every opportunity to send her grandson back to his mother. She's evil.
@@blahboy2600she’s not evil she wanted to help him. I tell my husband to walk our dog. That means nothing. His parents were evil they abandoned him because he was too much trouble. He was a dangerous drug addict. Funny how black murders in Detroit get a few years but the white grandma get a life sentence. No good deed goes unpunished.
@@LoriVFenskeyou should really research the case. Even her husband (grandad) didn't take her side. The kid wasn't even on drugs or had any drugs in his system when Grandma decided to kill him. The parents had moved away because of a new job for the husband and let the kid stay with his grandparents to finish out high school... That's literally it. Grandma fucked up and the only people defending her are people on the internet who saw a short summary in this clip, rather than anything in more detail.
You lie. Black convicts get 10 times more time white convicts get regardless of the crime. I do agree they should’ve taken into consideration his drug use, entitlement and the lack of parenting from his own parents but don’t lie.
Yea, this world really sucks. I highly recommend looking at Near Death experiences. After 20 years of studying science and being an atheist, I starting looking at what people who had died and were resuscitated had to say. Now its been over 23 years, and I have no doubt that we don't die, and we do go somewhere when we leave our bodies. I've listened to over 10,000+ people who had died and came back, and it changed my look on life. Its nothing to do with any religion, its based on what people saw and did, and it is very convincing when you listen to many people. I highly recommend it if you really want some answers about why we are here and where we go after. I really do not want to come back to this shithole of a planet, so I am trying to prepare myself so that when I die, I can make sure I remember how much this world sucks, and I never choose to come back here.
Among other struggles, she looks like she's borderline showing some char. of Downs, possible Fetal Alcohol Syndrome? Was it diagnosed? I'm not pushing this as an excuse, but looking at the larger picture. She didn't come up with these ideas on her own. Needs a psychiatrist, not prison.
Isn't it odd that when a woman is pregnant? And she gets murdered or she's in a car accident and she's pregnant and the child dies, It's considered a human being and they're charged with murdering that unborn child. Yet abortion isn't considered a murder in some states or to some people in society. It's just really strange.....I agree it's a human being in both cases....
Ok, words mean things. If a FETUS is aborted it means: 1. The mother wanted the pregnancy. 2. It is for the sake of the mother or the fetus. 3. Medical emergency. I think being fed a rapid fire diet of five minute videos has taken people’s ability to process thoughts and digest information.
@@NstyENYou missed my point completely. But to correct you untrue statements, almost all abortions are simply unwanted pregnancies, not medical emergencies or any of your other excuses.
@@tvc380 A fetus is late stage pregnancy. Late stage abortions are and have been illegal in every state EXCEPT for medical emergencies including the life of the mother or the fetus. You don’t have a point because you’re not educated enough to have an opinion about this.
@@tvc380 JFC...aborting fetuses is ILLEGAL (in the US) *except* for the reasons I listed. If you want to sound credible to people with more than two brain cells to rub together then at least TRY to know what tf you're talking about.
@@tvc380 You will ALWAYS appeal to dummies because they're so prevalent on the internet, but is that the audience you're going for? If so, keep "trying our best."
I grew up with physical and psycologically a-buse from my stepfather and my mother. I was hit, kicked and pushed down our basement stair. Justice has never seazed them and they are living their best life, taking no responsibility and acting like they have done nothing wrong, While I have been traumatized for life. Bet if my neck broke by pushing down the stairs, nothing would have happened to them.... The world is so unfair
I’m so sorry to hear that…as a victim myself I can totally relate and yes life does seem unfair. However please remember that this lifetime is not the whole picture. They will face the consequences of their actions because they have blemished their own souls and that is not something they can shake off. They made the choices that condemn them but you were an innocent and beloved by God who is your true Father as he is mine. Trauma is hard to live with I know, and my heart goes out to you x
Those kids today are OUT OF CONTROL...I would given him back to his parents..If the parents didn't want him, I would have given him to the state...Shooting the kid 10 times is OUTRAGEOUS..😮😮😮
The victims wish no doubt if they were alive to be giving a life sentence so they could breathe again. These perps destroyed so many lives and now they are not so tough like they think they were.
That “mother” dumped Jonathan on her elderly parents and he tortured them. Today’s teens can be very dangerous; it was justifiable homicide at most. What’s wrong with our system? That boys mother should be ashamed of herself for she’s just as guilty as her mother.
Agree. I feel not emptying her gun could have made her end result so much better. Just saying it looked bad. Super sad. How bad do you have to mess with your grandma to make her want to shoot him? Parents couldnt handle him.
Amen my friend, I was going to post the same thing. It appears to be the norm. Frustrated parents who failed in raising their children correctly, foist their child on the grandparent. Then the grandparent loses their quality of life or even their own life or lives. The daughter should have shrunk in embarrassment rather than center attention on herself as a so called 'victim.''
To shoot your grandchild,
10 TIMES
is murder!!!
That so called grandmother wasn't scared for her life by shooting him that many times, she was ANGRY.
Those of you commenting how this grandmother was at her wits end,etc,etc...it would be best to research this case .
Listen to the 911 call, it's horrifying.
You 3 are smoking crack. Justify murder because they said yes to taking in their grand son or not kicking him out. Boy I hope not a 1 of you 3 have kids. Piss pour logic
Yeah. I feel like she should have NEVER allowed her grandson to live with her. He should have lived with his parents period. She most likely feared for her life.
First case: Don't take in a grandson that his own parents won't take.
TRUTH
Agree
Totally. Almost put me to think she probably did it in self defence.
Don’t be an evil grandma..
She was more than likely traumatized by her grandson. I was in a situation similar to hers and knew it had to stop FOR ME. I severed ties with him and took proof to the courts of abuse. The Prosecutor took my case immediately and helped me and saved my life.
Keep your own children and stop giving them to your elder mother. You obviously can’t handle him how do you expect an old woman or man to do it! Damn!
I can't say in what capacity but I worked in Probation and it would astound me that they'd turn over juvenile offenders to their grandparents - more often than not - the grandparents were on drugs too. Just because you're old doesn't make you a saint - for the ones that weren't on drugs - they can't handle a kid that is bigger, stronger and faster than them and I was like - you already screwed up your kid - let's hand another kid over to you to screw up....
I agree, she most likely wanted both headaches gone.
Can't the grandparents say no? At 17 years old, he could go to a group home until he was old enough to be released to the streets - where he obviously wanted to be.
Point is the old woman did it. Not who messed up responsibility. What. A silly reply blaming the actions of who cares for who when the fact is the old woman did kill. It is not rocket science. Blame games are stupid logic. No disrespect. Just my take. You have yours I respect. I was not there nor you..This is just surface info. Nobody watching knows diddly about what occurred. Just people ranting and assuming they know what happened. Funny to me.
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@@Dawn_LR She was afraid of Johnathan (The toxicology report and lab reports showed that Hoffman was taking synthetic marijuana called Spice or K2.) This judge was a fool. He needed a Green Beret sitter not a 74 yr old grandmother.
They starved their baby daughter to death...wow. It fills me with such rage, my baby son died and they threw their baby away like garbage
I’m so sorry for your loss. They are proof not everyone should reproduce.
@@Blessed-2-b-a-HembreeVaxXadxlcxuiJx
Good on that Judge that continued to read the sentence even when that monster faked passing out
I guess he's seen all kinds of tactics, ya' know? - but you're right and good for him to ignore her drama party.
It was the best act if it was flagged. She seemed genuine to me , she even went stiff. Bravo❣️
jUDGES ARE VILE MONSTERS
It wasn't fake, and she was taken to the hospital where doctors had to revive her.
HUMAN that's what we live with everyday human who killed everything with no remorse
animals don't does that ! monster does not exist
wait so this first case, the 17 year old was smoking k2? do you know how people act on k2? EXTREMELY DISASSOCIATED, they go into full blown psychosis.
Yep i was staying in a homeless shelter in DHSNYC Shelter in 2020 and this dude was tripping off K2 in the dorm room i was staying in i'm so glad i got out of there
Did you fully listen? He was arrested with K2 in his system. Bye the time he was killed it was well out of his system as he was sitting in jail. I swear some of you only listen to what you want to listen to 🤦
@@TheTrollTrollyYeti did you fully read both comments? Firzt off no one said he was on k2 during the murder, second off if u knew ANYTHING when doing dangerous psychosis inducing drugs you can NEVER COMR BACK. I swear you are illiterate cant even freakin read
@@TheTrollTrollyYeti so how about that mr illiterate? How does it feel to be illiterate? How does it feel to make yourself look so stupid anything u now say just makes it even better for me. Whos trolling who now? Ur so illiterate ur own stupidity is trolling you. How pathetic and dumb. I really do love when morons like you comment on my comments. I shred every ounce of dignity you thought u had in your own intelligence and prove people like you your own worth when u run ur mouth. I wrote something this long to test your literacy i hope u read the entire thing
@@TheTrollTrollyYeti also 1 last message to such a profound MORON LIKE YOURSELF. Anyone CAN GO TO JAIL GET OUT AND GET HIGH AGAIN ROFL. TAKES MERE SECONDS TO HIT A PIPE WITH K2 IN IT LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD DAM i just keep cracking up at your own stupidity. AND K2 IS ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR DRUGS IN JAIL BECAUSE IT ISNT TESTED FOR. DID YOU KNOW THIS LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HOPE IM HELPING YOU BECOME A BIT MORE LITERATE. IM EVEN USING BLOCK LETTERING SINCE IT MAY HELP GIVEN YOUR CLEAR MENTAL DEFICIENCIES
WE DON'T KILL PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY USE DRUGS, WE JUST DON'T HAVE IN OUR HOME PEOPLE THAT USES DRUGS...GRANDMA HAD JUST TO SEND JONATHAN BACK TO HIS PARENTS JONATHAN WAS HIS PARENTS RESPONSIBILITY NOT GRANDMA'S!!!
Well said!
I have been a moron in the past.
Every ones who care about me tried to warn me "
Do not spend time with a drug addict abuser "
As an naive ignorant fool I was did not listen '
I had to first hand experience it "
Long story short I fast realised they were right all along "
I simple cut out all contact with the drug addict abuser.
So you're excusing Grandma shooting her grandson, because of the daughter that wasn't there? Huh?
Parents refused to take care of him! Grandma had no choice
Your a load of horse shit their is always a choice you wanna defend a killer go join them in prison
Somehow, they (grandparents) think they can save them. But he had No respect for her. She worked all those years and now has to spend the rest in prison. SAD!
In Australia, kill people while _driving drunk,_ you get a slap on the wrist. _DISGUSTING!_ 🇦🇺
Same in New Zealand, a Drunk Driver killed my 26 year old son & got 6 months jail!!
Same in Germany. She'd have been sentenced to paying a fine (like 10.000 US$) and she would have lost her driving license.
It’s not much different in the US either!
She just got life lol You did not watch?! @@lzal9204
@@andybricks576
Love 💕 how they used AI on their opening screen 📺 shot to entice us to watch ‼️Those 3 blond AI models sitting on a bench in a court room 👩⚖️ priceless 😂
Swear that is yes I'm here lol
harleyquinn looking women lol 🤣
It looks like they were triplets!
I knew they were AI, that’s what called my attention and I hate that they did that, but the title of the video called me enough to click regardless. The power of true crime.
Entice? It freaked me out. Creepy faced AI clones. I only read the title. After initial facial imagery shock.😮👀🙇🇨🇦
That Intro though😂 Something cannot be "USUALLY unprecedented." if it's unprecedented, there's no "usually."
usually there's no precedent but in this case it was different
Is that even important? No.🤦
@@Dawn_LR And yet here you are taking the time to comment.
If you’re a grandparent and your own kids dump their kids on you!! and say it’s temporary 😮That’s a RED FLAG!!🤔😡
I'd buy the "gene pool" defense and cut grandma some slack. Kid was dangerous, but so was her own irresponsible daughter AND herself! Or the "gee, what a surprise" defense.
@@HeronPoint2021
That's no reason to murder somebody. Kid's a little druggie, just find his stash when he's out with his friends, call the cops to come get it and bust him, and then evict him when he's in the slammer. He's a little dirtball, he's going to do a life sentence on the installment plan or OD, who cares which?
if a granny SHOOTS AND KILLS A YOUNG BOY who did NOT touch an hair of her, SHE'S A MONSTER.
@@HeronPoint2021hey dumbass listen to the 911 tape then defend the old killer and join her in jail we don't need idiots like you who defend killers
@@studio54studio A vvoman (I assume you are) calling out other vvomen, that's very rare indeed.
They dumped the care of Lane on her. That daughter’s at fault !!!
Courts want a clear, simple path: the defendant is on trial, not what should have been done by a bad parent. Courts usually do not look at the big picture.
Those defending Layne, she chose to empty a round into him, reload and then as he begged for his life emptied another round into him. That’s cold blooded. Just because someone looks like a sweet grandma doesn’t mean she is one.
why was he at her house? he is not her son Answer that question. And if the mother knew her mother was this way....whyyyyyyy?
Amen to that!!!!! People who want to hate on the poor kid and his parents need to listen to the tape of the 911 call!!!!!
Have you ever been that scared, fluf*ck?
@@traeeeee69because he lived there….
@@jennifermenth-pavel1260 Screw the junkie kid but as usual people are only trying to defend her cause she's a vvoman, had it been a an they'd be screaming "he's a monster, hope he roots in hell".
The third one (Diane Lovejoy) is a very intresting story, actually. The Hit Man she hired arrived too early at the pre-arranged spot and had a problem... he needed to go to the Boy's Room. Instead of leaving and trying again some other day, he LITERALLY crapped his pants while waiting for Diane's soon-to-be-ex, and left chunks behind for the Cops to use his DNA to tag him. How sick is that?! 🤮🤢🤮
Bahahahahahahahahahha!
😳 Wow. Sick, disgusting evil shit💩
You're shitting me!
@@jonathanlister5644🤣lol
No shit!!
In the case of Lane, why would you think the grandmother could handle your miscreant if you can't as the mother? I thought it was real low-down that she gave a thumbs up at the sentencing knowing she put that woman in that predicatment. Granny snapped. Point. Blank. Period.
Exactly!
It’s not the grandma’s responsibility to raise her grandson!!! The mother should be going to jail instead 😮😮
In fairness she shot him 10 times though....that's jail-worthy for sure and the lowest end of the sentence (20 years) is actually appropriate for the given crime. HOWEVER, should not be more than that, and it isn't murder-2...
I am sympathetic to the defendant because hers, like so many sentences here, are (IMO) disproportionate and in many cases over-charged with too high a crime.
Lots of these are 2nd-degree murder convictions but I can't see how - some of them are, but others are clearly manslaughter - this would probably be a *clear* example of voluntary manslaughter (a more serious case of it to be sure) based on what is provided.
in Duarte's case as well - it is reckless homicide, which is the very top end of involuntary manslaughter with aggravating circumstances (so that you can get above the typical statutory max with no sympathy over it). That's two levels below murder-2.
The court system is really messed up -throwing everyone in the same category if there is a remote chance the prosecutor can get a murder-2 conviction. That's not justice, that's borderline vengeance.
With all due respect, the jury people probably don't have children or grandchildren. The grandma had a cursed life with that daughter of hers. That daughter is evil.
That thumbs up was unnecessary. I bet she wouldn’t do that if it were her grandfather.
Ummm if you hear the 911 call from her grandson, he's already been shot and telling the 911 operator she's gonna shoot me again, and she does after he's already been subdued she had no reason to continue shooting him which you can also hear on the 911 call
That poor grandmother shouldn't serve a day .why didn't his mother take care of her son .An old woman is now paying for her daughter's bad parenting. So sad .
And then she wanted the grandmother to get a long sentence.
Agreed
You should maybe actually research the case. Grandma isn't the saint y'all want to make her to be.
@@dustinreed7667 I don't see her as a saint but why is he with her if she isn't and why did the mother leave him there...the mother neglected him. why are you not saying anything about that. I that never happened the grandmother would not have had a chance to kill him. He was in her house.
@@traeeeee69the mother didn't neglect him his sibling had a brain tumor and was getting that treated they were going to move but Jonathan didn't want to Lane took him in saying she would take care of him and let him finish out his senior year thus she did empty 10 rounds into him even chasing him up to his room so do your damn research and stop siding with a grandmother that killed her grandson
8:44 lmao this Nimrod is practicing what he's going to be doing in prison the next 25 years!😂
underrated comment
I just feel the need to point out that in the case of Michelle Blair, none of the claims that her kids were sexually abusing each other were ever substantiated. In fact, she tortured them and beat them until they would admit to anything just to make her stop. She was clearly angry and delusional because of her own childhood abuse.
sounds like the recent mormon kids abuse case... they were accused of being sexual pervs to justify the abuse
PURE EVIL is what this MONSTER is period.
Her surviving daughter did an Evil Lives Here episode about her
Exactly.
She wasn’t well enough to have kids, a total mess. Evil. 👿
The woman that put her kids in the deep freezer... how did no one miss these kids? Schools?? Family members? The system failed those babies.
RIP
Mary Welsh
Steven
Stoney
Ryan Poston
Travis Alexander
Jocelyn Cedillo
Jessie Nicole Morrison
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I'll be honest, I'm a bit surprised people would care about the molesters, unless they feel different when it's kids doing it to younger siblings.
Cheers mate. I found this grotesquely distressing. A lovely child, loved by all - but her.
the worst part of being incarcerated is having to live w/ monsters like that.
There's a monster in all of us...
@@studio54studiounfortunately In anger you can do … 🤬🤯 But 1 kick must get you back to reality i wish to think
Having seen the Jodi Arias trial, it was clear that she is a complete psychopath and narcissist. She butchered her boyfriend while he was defenseless in a shower. She first said she wasn't there when he was killed, then said two people dressed as ninjas killed him and threatened her, then changed it again to say she killed him in self-defense. The jusr convicted her, but unfortunately, she did not receive the death penalty.
Thatstory is the truth
The da asked that women on the stand
That maybe she killed him
She was stocking him and messed with his car tires it was HER ....A WOMEN THAT TOOK THE STAND
EVEN THE DA KNOW
WATCH THE COURT HEARING
GOD HAS ALREADY TOLD ME THAT MAN THAT WAS WITH HER WILL CONFESS HE KILL THE MORMAN GUY IN PRISON. TELLING EVERYONE IT WAS HIM AND A WOMEN.
I don't think she acted alone. No way could she drag the body on her own.
She’s definitely a psychopath and narcissist but Travis Alexander was worse than that. Not saying he deserved to die-just saying he was worse than her.
The thing about divorces in America is the fact that they are dragged out for too long, a reason for anger and frustration to brood and then explode. It is almost like the courts want it that way along with the atternies !!!
No excuse for that my god.
The new lil cat , is so very patient & loving with the lil granddaughter ❤❤❤❤
Thank you narrator you do a great job as always !
It’s a bot.
@@samhain1894 Also keep in mind that televised trials are often faked trials. What!! Yes, you have been subjected to fake incidents and subsequent faked trials, all as part of Operation Chaos. You can look up the program's history at Wikipedia, but it did not end in the 1970s like they claim. It continued and expanded to create fear and discord in America, and you have to admit it has been very successful! Everyone is living in an exaggerated state of fear for their safety, and suspicion of their fellow citizen. When you make everyone afraid you make them easy to control, and more likely to buy drugs, alcohol, therapy, and useless junk from Amazon. You also do more than Planned Parenthood could ever do to control the population size by making women and men hate each other and not form families. Historically, TV cameras were always unwelcome in the courtroom; judges were afraid of looking bad, and defense lawyers didn't want to prejudice any future juries their clients might face. But a few exceptions were made, and now the public thinks every trial is televised. Most people can't fathom that the intelligence agencies of their own country would go to all of this trouble and expense to subject them to psychological operations, but they do.
I pity the people who have to look into those cases as what they have to endure would be with them for the rest of their lives . 🙏❤️
They are cold blooded
Imagine when those two monsters who starved that infant to death get to prison. Those life sentences will be shorter than they think.
The judges that let criminals out of prison. With little or no time. For doing heinous crimes. Only to be released to reoffend. Needs to take notes. From every judge in this video. On how to correctly sentence monsters.👹
As a mother who’s son battled with drug issues I can understand this poor grandmothers ordeal. It is sad that the court did side with her at one point I wished my son dead I even threw hot water at him. He was cruel and dangerous. Those who don’t know don’t understand
She felt she needed to protect herself.... and was given life...no justice was served there...now if the drug addict killed his grandmother.... they probably would have given him a year and probation....I hate leftist ideology...
I'm so sorry about that. How is your son doing now?
He died.
There is no excuse to shoot your grandchild 10 times he was not attacking her she is a nasty vicious old hag! and you throwing hot water over your own son and wishing him dead shows that you are the same! what evil unnatural disgusting examples of women you are!
He should had stayed with his Mama. Grandma had done her time & I believe she was trying some tough love and he was disrespectful. Although, he didn't deserve to die.
Prior abuse is not a reason for injuring or killing someone. Lots of people are abused every day and they do not take it out on other people. The abuse claim is nothing more than a convenient excuse.
I stopped watching one True Crime UA-camr when they started to justify certain killers motives. You’re absolutely correct. A persons past doesn’t justify their criminal actions.
I totally agree. Also, if you have ever been abused….you would NEVER abuse another. You would never inflict that pain onto another (especially a loved one). Definitely an excuse. Every action is a choice.
@@dorothypage7410- That is logical but not factual. Many abused kids (not all) grow up to abuse their own kids. It's unfortunately common.
It's called the cycle of violence, only the very strong minded can break the cycle but they also can suffer all their life...
@dorothy, not true. Hurt people hurt people.
Watching this video and others like it, feels so good to be free. Obey the law. Stay out of trouble.
"Obeying the law" doesn't make you free, you could end up in court over someone's false accusations next month.
@@pjabber5679
This is true.
Ive seen the full length story of Mitchelle Blaire and her extremely unfortunate children. The torture of her son was carried out in the bathroom, often in the tub where she scalded his beaten body and spirit with hot water. She beat and tortured her son and daughter and the torture lasted for days until their little systems just gave out. She kept their bodies in a freezer for months and she was caught when she got evicted. She had more children and the house was filthy.
The thumbnail of this video is a click-bait.
@@carcrash1875 duh. 😆
@@carcrash1875 aren't most all of them? You just learning this?
@@S.A.A-y4j No, most of them are not. I mean that image is not even in the video.
@@carcrash1875 The thumbnail is an AI
Poor lady. She was pushed to the limit. Grandparents you did your job. Don't look after your grandchildren.
Pushed to the limit? She could have kicked him out and got a restraining order. Youre excusing cold blooded murder. She shot him, and while he pleaded for his life she reloaded and shot again over ten times. I'll never understand why people think just because someone is old that means they're a saint.
@@parisinthe30sx Had she ever got into trouble before? How old are you? Do you realize how vulnerable you feel when you get elderly? Her daughter is apparently an irresponsible demon calling for the max sentence.
@@flower-the-earth Shame on you for defending that MONSTER who shot that poor young child TEN TIMES.
@@studio54studio Shame on you for denying her self-defense.
@@flower-the-earth It was not self-defense. You seem to be making too many assumptions. This case is way crazier than "he's a young man and she's an old woman so he must have been attacking her." It was recorded. He'd already been shot multiple times, he called 911, it's desperate and pretty harrowing. She shoots him more while he's on the phone with dispatch. Even if her life was genuinely in danger before the call, that is not called self-defense anywhere.
My God we are surrounded by CRAZY PEOPLE...they could be anywhere or anybody....someone you know...someone you work with....you have no idea the INSANE amount of people able to commit such act of depravity.....
That mom was partly responsible for her son's demise. She didn't want the responsibility of possibly turning his life around in getting him medical help, so she puts the burden on her own elderly mother. Not that the grandmother should have pulled the trigger 10 times. But knowing her own mother could possibly have had an explosive temper, this woman should've never given her son over to the older lady to raise.
Is there an Ai photos?
Mostly I just watch these kinds of videos because the thumbnails are fantastic
Three Margot Robbies?
Ha! Sucker lol!
Lane. 70 years old. No history of violence. No crime nal record. The lad was a drug addled youth. He'd No brains or experience of life. Intimidating selfish person. The grandma should not be jailed. The parents of the kid ?? Why didn't you look after him ??
The grandmother emptied two clips into her grandson. That's not self defense.
lol she deserves jail
@@AshleyLewisGrey not 40 though. that is too much for reasons stated above.
I think the first case the school teacher was in fear of her grandson. She stopped three times before they got home. He was crazy.
Hearsay, speculation, nonsense. She's a MONSTER who SHOT a poor young child TEN TIMES.
Drugs ! Even marijuana can be devastating on young brain…..
then she should've called the police for them to handle him. but shooting him 10 times?
The grandmother was left no other choice. The boy was dangerous and this grandma was in danger.
I read that the mom and dad moved to another town and the kid wanted to finish school with his friends and the parents let him stay with his grandparents to finish out school instead of starting a new school in his last year. The grandmother was apparently very controlling and violent. She took shooting lessons without the grandpa knowing. I think I read the grandpa didn't even know grandma got a gun. Read that the grandpa was afraid of the grandmother. She sounds like a psycho or true narcissist.
She emptied the gun in the teen, he crawled to call 911, she went to reload, then emptied it again in him while he was on with 911. She did this while the grandpa went out to walk the dog and she even asked him how long he would be gone.
I know we all want to assume our experience or a common TV narrative is what occured here; that a drugged out grandson was a threat to his meek grandparents. I know I initially jumped to that conclusion, too. But the truth is what's important, not our assumptions based on our own past or TV shows depicting drugged out teens terrorizing their grandparents. This case goes against the norm. Now the mom of the kid not only lost him, but has to live with being slandered by people who are making assumptions about her.
@@EscapeFromCrazytown Granny used a Glock 17 (9mm) to shoot the kid. A "non-restricted magazine" Glock 17 holds 17 rounds and a "restricted magazine" Glock 17 holds 10 rounds. The police investigation shows she shot "at him" 9 times and "struck him" with six rounds. I've read conflicting articles stating he had been struck five times and some stating six times. Of course, all of the articles relay, "according to the autopsy" or "court records show." The actual autopsy report isn't available online. I can't find anything stating she performed two mag dumps into the kid.
If, by your claim, she emptied her Glock 17 twice she would have fired 21 times if she used a "restricted magazine" (assuming she had one round in the chamber during the first mag dump) or 35 times if she used a "non-restricted magazine" (assuming she had one round in the chamber during the first mag dump). The murder occurred on May 9, 2012. As of today, Michigan does not have a "high capacity magazine" ban. That means all Glocks sold in Michigan come with "standard capacity" or "non-restricted magazines."
@@EscapeFromCrazytown How many crimes had Grandma committed?
Clearly someone didn't listen to the 911 call of him begging for his life then she shot again pretty dumb you are
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I disagree with the sentencing for the Grandma who shot her grandson. The guy was on drugs and threatening to her. His own parents couldn't control him. What made them think their elderly mother could? His parents are the ones who let him down. Not Grandma.
Mankind is wicked in and out
Seth Welch better get used to holding his mouth that way (8:44). He's gonna get lots of practice in prison.
Exactly totally agree in fact the mother should have been charged for neglect and lack of "Duty of care" to her child
Thumbs up for the clever narration!
The image of those 3 women before the beginning of the video wasn't even shown. I feel for the first case, Samdra Lane, the teacher/ grandmother that had to deal with a psychotic grandson from drug induced frenzied repeatedly and received no help from her daughter ( his mother) the police or state dealing with his mental/ drug conditions. She was forced into a self defense state.
She most likely in a state of "Sham Rage" where one is in an altered mental state and is temporarily non-compus mentus (sic). 😢
Those women at the beginning had to be cgi. They look like they have plastic faces.
Whoah whoah whoah, hold on a minute....
First of all, who feels sorry for a grown adult SHOOTING A CHILD 12 times?!!! (Or was it 7? Maybe 10??) No matter what the amount, that farrrr exceeds "self defense" for a facking KID! And it's her own grandson! Secondly.....
This whole bit about a "drug induced rage"... it's freaking marijuana! That is absolutely, positively not. even. a. thing! Scientific studies have long been proven that THC is NOT. ADDICTIVE. So we're not talking about a grown man going through some psychotic break after abruptly stopping cocaine, crystal meth, or anything hardcore for that matter. Granny just wasn't for the weed, it was against her rules.... Damn sure didn't necessitate a shooting, let alone an excessive shooting!
Third... I'm seeing an awful LOT of "poor Grandma, the Mom is the one that should be sentenced!" Put your rage faces away, the specifics were not given as to why psycho granny had this CHILD. (And or a facking loaded gun in the car with him!)
Remember, she was a school teacher, so she spent many years being well trained on HOW TO DEAL WITH KIDS. How to punish appropriately. Makes me wonder what her surviving students had to endure.
Finally, all while keeping in mind that this witch SHOT. HER OWN. GRANDCHILD. MANY, MANY TIMES, I'll reiterate that we don't know exactly why she had the child, but even *IF* he was "dumped on her", which I doubt, she could have very easily...
A: sent him back to his parent(s)
B: sent him to juvie
C: had him admitted to children's psych ward
D: put him in "rehab"
E: given him to the state
Bottom line? Absolutely ZERO compassion for the Grandma of the year here. Too many options, and no way was she actually "fighting a kid to save her own life"... that would take one shot, maybe 2 if u missed. And there is absolutely no possible scenerio where I can see a grandmother pulling the car over with her grand CHILD in it, with a loaded gun, feeling any need to shoot if he's a kid and unarmed. SHE'S the one with the crystal clear rage issues!
@@trishlong7702
As for feeling sorry for the grandmother, I don’t. I’m with you on that. There was no reason to shoot him 10 times. He had to have grown up around her and you’d think there was some level of love during this time. So 10 times is excessive.
As for his drug use it was not marijuana he was using. It was spice which will induce psychotic behavior. A neighbor close to me woke up at 3AM to find her son who was in his 40’s slithering like a snake across the kitchen floor. It wasn’t very long later his daughter found him on the floor dead. I don’t think he had ever gotten violent with anyone but it can kill you.
... look closely ... those 3 women are an AI generated image!!!!
Why do they start crying when they get sentenced as if they were expecting ten minutes on the naughty step
lol
Cause it's a typical tactic that vvomen have used throughout history, trying to make themselves seem all poor and innocent in order to receive sympathy, which society always usually grants them seeing as they put them on a pedestal.
It is a horrible show of disrespect to describe someone's violent and tragic death as "giving up the ghost!" Please consider that.
Yeah that annoyed me too, though I think I'd still prefer that, to all these people referring to death as deleted or deleting yourself. I get the feeling the people saying things like that are sicker and more empty than the ones leaving us.
I agree 100%. I also hate when they use 'expire'.
the narrator is automated and was not programmed well. he said jody arias' name backward.
I agree!! That poor woman was pregnant also. That was just a horrible thing to say.
I agree with all with the exception of the Sandra Lane case. In this case the mother of the grandson should also go to jail. She was the one who should have been responsible for her son. The grandmother was left with the responsibility to raise this irresponsible drug addicted idiot and Ms Lane reached the point she couldn't handle the boy any longer. If the mother who failed as a parent had taken responsibility for her son, this wouldn't have happened.
She claims self defense, yet she shot her grandson 10 times. 🤦♂
she bought a gun and took shooting practice then sent her husband out and told him not come back until she called him.... she's evil.
K2 can cause psychosis, he may have been off his face. Also why was she having to deal with her drug addict grandson at her age? Where was the mother? Not saying it was justified, but there's more layers to the story than her being "evil".
She kept firing until she heard the *click, click, click*
Exactly
@@nixm9093 Yeah but funny how you wouldn't be saying the same if it the mvrderer in question was a man.
Michelle Blair was a monster and a damn liar…what she did to that little boy was horrific.
Any adult who can torture and beat a child to death, I feel nothing .
If you can commit such a horrifying crime, you have to take the punishment . Who pray tell felt sorry for the poor defenceless child.
In the Welch case, I just cannot imagine that parents would treat their newborn like that. The mother tried to shift the blame, but she was there, she could have fled with the baby, she could have called the police
Just love how the judge ignores Shelby Isaac and her act. Imagine killing 3 people over a hair weave??!! Just evil personified.
And they all cry. Don't kill and you all could smile and be free.
I am speechless after listening these abuses people do to children.
I count 11 words you wrote...
The thumbnail is from a tv show its clickbait i wosh they would stop that
name of that show ? thanks.
Where do they get the makeup?🤔
The woman who killed her grandson bought a gun, took shooting lessons, and had her husband leave to walk the dog and told him don't come back until I tell you. The man and the dog grew tired they were out so long and the husband had no knowledge of the gun at all. There was blood in every room through the house where Johnathan was chased and he was on the phone with 911 begging for help because he had already been shot and was shot again during the call after she hunted him down when he briefly got away. Gun shots were heard by the police when they pulled up to try to save him. He almost made it but the extra shooting killed him. Every one that knew him said he was funny and non violent and would deescalate situations at school with humor. Every one that knew him loved him and it was true about the drugs but not about him being a threat at all like she tried to claim. He was even shot in the back from running away from her. She flipped out over a dirty drug test. She was not afraid of him but rather was furious because she could not force her will on him.
Thank you for being one of the sensible ones. Everyone is blaming the young one without doing more research.
Your welcome. There are always two sides to a story and she was counting on her past as an educator and her age to get her out of point blank shooting him but fortunately the police and detectives were thorough and figured it out.@@greenie2390
WHO COULD EVER FORGET JODI HAIRYASS ! 😂 🤣 😂
Juries do not decide the sentence the judge does that. All the jury does is to determine guilt or innocence, the judge pronounces guilt and gives the sentence.
Only exception I can think of in some states is that the jury also votes whether the death penalty should apply.
They often(always) can recommend.
A jury also decides if the death penalty is appropriate.
In most cases but not ALL.
Wrong, in some cases the jury Does decide Life in Prison or the death penalty.
At 9:00 minutes, how her face turned so red and how he opened his mouth jaw, dropping like he was confused and it was a mistake smh
I guess Sandra Lane was panicking and thus shooting that often. To me it seemed to have been self defense against an evil teen.
Nah.
NOPE
I agree
@@pale_saint Did Grandma have a rap sheet like filthy grandson did?
@@flower-the-earth He smoked joints BIG DEAL, it's LEGAL in many countries, sure didn't deserved to be SHOT TEN TIMES!! She's a MONSTER
That's one thing i love about America they give out proper sentences and stick by them. In England for murder life is around 25 years if that and they get out half way through their sentence for good
behaviour 😳
This says Michelle Blair found out her older kids were molesting the younger ones but that was never proven. The word of a crazy woman who viciously abused all of her children is the only proof. The kids probably didn't do anything at all and if they did she should've taken the whole family for help. She was abused and it made her so hyper-sensitive that she thought it was happening. If you torcher anyone long enough they'll admit anything you tell them to.
They didn't do it
If you listen to her interview
They were scared of her
Told her a few times it wasn't true
They hadn't molested their brother. The mother is unhinged and I think she truly believed her delusion otherwise she'd have been remorseful. Very dangerous woman.
@@nixm9093 I think ppl are misunderstanding me. I don't think the kids molested their siblings. That so called mom was molested as a child and it caused her to be so mentally ill she poured boiling water on that poor child until he lied and confessed.... I just meant that even if it had been true that a 8 or 10 yr old child did that to a sibling a decent parent would get help and counseling for the whole family. Kids don't do that to others unless something horrible has happened to them. Hurt ppl, hurt ppl.
So, what happened to the three women in the thumbnail? Just asking.
Gotta love how we sentence these women to a fraction of what men or the men get 🤦🤷
But as you can see, nobody wants to talk about that. Women can be just nasty as all hell and receive just a fraction of their male counter-parts. Women are coddled and pandered to.
Sex should never enter into it. Aren't we all supposed to equal?
The mother has no right. You dumped the son on grandma coz you couldn't handle him.
You can charge someone for murdering an unborn baby but if you do it yourself it's ok ....right ok
Right?! Welcome to good ol demoncratic America, smh. The law may have been recently changed, but your logic is still sound--- it's been like this for many, many years. Total contradiction
@@trishlong7702yes hypcrtical justice system snd world goverments
8:40 he didnt open his mouth at the charge he opened his mouth at punishment big big difference .
Although entertaining as it seemed why use thumbnails no connection to what is being seen ? I think a thumbnail should at least be a snapshot of what is going to be seen.
Why show people on the beginning of the video but never show them
Sandra Layne didn’t deserve her punishment… her daughter was the evil one
You obviously didn't look into the case. Sandras' husband told her several times to send the kid back to his mother and Sandra refused every time. The day she killed her grandson she told her husband to go for a walk and when he was gone she killed her grandson. It was premediated and she had every opportunity to send her grandson back to his mother. She's evil.
@@blahboy2600she’s not evil she wanted to help him. I tell my husband to walk our dog. That means nothing. His parents were evil they abandoned him because he was too much trouble. He was a dangerous drug addict. Funny how black murders in Detroit get a few years but the white grandma get a life sentence. No good deed goes unpunished.
@@LoriVFenske you're dumb. look into the case before you respond to me because what you're saying is emotionally driven not logical.
@@LoriVFenskeyou should really research the case. Even her husband (grandad) didn't take her side. The kid wasn't even on drugs or had any drugs in his system when Grandma decided to kill him. The parents had moved away because of a new job for the husband and let the kid stay with his grandparents to finish out high school... That's literally it.
Grandma fucked up and the only people defending her are people on the internet who saw a short summary in this clip, rather than anything in more detail.
You lie. Black convicts get 10 times more time white convicts get regardless of the crime. I do agree they should’ve taken into consideration his drug use, entitlement and the lack of parenting from his own parents but don’t lie.
I don't wanna live on this planet anymore...
Yea, this world really sucks. I highly recommend looking at Near Death experiences. After 20 years of studying science and being an atheist, I starting looking at what people who had died and were resuscitated had to say. Now its been over 23 years, and I have no doubt that we don't die, and we do go somewhere when we leave our bodies. I've listened to over 10,000+ people who had died and came back, and it changed my look on life. Its nothing to do with any religion, its based on what people saw and did, and it is very convincing when you listen to many people. I highly recommend it if you really want some answers about why we are here and where we go after. I really do not want to come back to this shithole of a planet, so I am trying to prepare myself so that when I die, I can make sure I remember how much this world sucks, and I never choose to come back here.
all these sociopaths are so surprised when they are given jail terms. if you injure others, JUSTICE demands you suffer.
Women get away with everything their whole lives, so it comes at a shock to them that they actually get a fair sentence.
Unless you're rich or wear a military uniform while injuring and murdering people.
@@arthurott4561um if your talking about our military in uniform protecting your freedoms, you have issues you need checked.
I am and you are clueless. BTW, I'm a military veteran so I think I know more about it than your simpleton ass. @@kayvillarosa7683
cry rivers when all else fails. This fails as the keys are thrown away!
Damn….That thumbnail image of those girls in orange….😂….They look like those Bratz Dolls. Yikes 😬 😂
It must be a high self-discipline task being a judge when the likes of these monsters stand before you...
7:57
anyone know what kind of glasses these are?
It is absurd that a negative reaction to a life sentence would be considered "shocking". What would you expect?
Love the “lifeless” instagram model inmate catfish image lol
Vonda was from my town. We were shocked that she did that. She always hung out at the store down the road.
Among other struggles, she looks like she's borderline showing some char. of Downs, possible Fetal Alcohol Syndrome? Was it diagnosed? I'm not pushing this as an excuse, but looking at the larger picture. She didn't come up with these ideas on her own. Needs a psychiatrist, not prison.
idc what condition you have if you get off on killing or torturing anyone you need to go to jail
@@HeronPoint2021
Some of these people should have been given Oscars for their courtroom performances.
Isn't it odd that when a woman is pregnant? And she gets murdered or she's in a car accident and she's pregnant and the child dies, It's considered a human being and they're charged with murdering that unborn child. Yet abortion isn't considered a murder in some states or to some people in society. It's just really strange.....I agree it's a human being in both cases....
It's good you have your opinion. Others have a different perspective and can make up their own minds. You don't believe in abortion, don't have one.
@@inagreenminute6525👏👏👏
@@inagreenminute6525 understand what you're saying...just thought it was a double standard...
Definitely a double standard when “money” is on the table.
This is when they call good evil and evil good.
@@inagreenminute6525you don't want to get pregnant use birth control.
Wait, if someone kills it, it's an unborn child, but if the mother kills it, it's an unwanted fetus. How does that make sense?
Ok, words mean things. If a FETUS is aborted it means:
1. The mother wanted the pregnancy.
2. It is for the sake of the mother or the fetus.
3. Medical emergency.
I think being fed a rapid fire diet of five minute videos has taken people’s ability to process thoughts and digest information.
@@NstyENYou missed my point completely. But to correct you untrue statements, almost all abortions are simply unwanted pregnancies, not medical emergencies or any of your other excuses.
@@tvc380 A fetus is late stage pregnancy. Late stage abortions are and have been illegal in every state EXCEPT for medical emergencies including the life of the mother or the fetus. You don’t have a point because you’re not educated enough to have an opinion about this.
@@tvc380 JFC...aborting fetuses is ILLEGAL (in the US) *except* for the reasons I listed. If you want to sound credible to people with more than two brain cells to rub together then at least TRY to know what tf you're talking about.
@@tvc380 You will ALWAYS appeal to dummies because they're so prevalent on the internet, but is that the audience you're going for? If so, keep "trying our best."
Concurrent sentencing should be illegal!
That is ridiculous thing to say it should not be illegal. It is a great thing that it is concurrent.
People are evil and wicked.
These murderers were all women if you watch the video, no prejudice inferred
Not all people, there are many very good people
SOME people are. Most are good.
I grew up with physical and psycologically a-buse from my stepfather and my mother. I was hit, kicked and pushed down our basement stair. Justice has never seazed them and they are living their best life, taking no responsibility and acting like they have done nothing wrong, While I have been traumatized for life. Bet if my neck broke by pushing down the stairs, nothing would have happened to them.... The world is so unfair
You liked what you got which is why your a twisted freak now posting on the internet a random life story that is total fiction
I’m so sorry to hear that…as a victim myself I can totally relate and yes life does seem unfair. However please remember that this lifetime is not the whole picture. They will face the consequences of their actions because they have blemished their own souls and that is not something they can shake off. They made the choices that condemn them but you were an innocent and beloved by God who is your true Father as he is mine. Trauma is hard to live with I know, and my heart goes out to you x
Those kids today are OUT OF CONTROL...I would given him back to his parents..If the parents didn't want him, I would have given him to the state...Shooting the kid 10 times is OUTRAGEOUS..😮😮😮
The victims wish no doubt if they were alive to be giving a life sentence so they could breathe again. These perps destroyed so many lives and now they are not so tough like they think they were.
Let that old lady out
Shelby got 30 years for a hair weave.
It’s really easy. Don’t want to be a criminal ??
don’t break the law.
Don't want to be a criminal? Respect everyone's rights.
Oh gtfo of here, nothing in life is that simple you simpleton...jesus
If someone wants to be?
That spice crap makes people crazy. I believe her.
yes. and she should have called the police, not taken the law into her own hands.
What was the first ones sentence
20-40 years
Margo Robbie is innocent! 😂😂
These judges have morals and justice is served
Why was Jonathan living with his grandmother to begin with? because his own mother was not a good person.
He was living with her while the parent's divorce was being finalized!! It was only temporary!!
6:54 What could be meant by "vicariously armed with a firearm"? Another party wielded the weapon, at her direction?