BMW E92 M3 | Future Collectible?
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- We do a second review of the 2013 BMW E92, E90 M3 courtesy of Obsessed Garage. In this video, we discuss modifications, why the car is different, and going up in value. Also, we break down the good, bad, and potential issues with the car including what is like owning.
Full BMW M3 E92 E90 and E93 Review:
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Index:
00:00 - 00:43
00:43 - 2:17 Interior and Mods
2:17 - 4:58 The Ownership Story @ObsessedGarage
4:58 - 8:23 Mechanical Impressions
8:23 - 14:14 Driving Impressions, Pros, and Cons
14:14 Final Thoughts - Авто та транспорт
So Mark basically doesn't like everyday sporty cars, he only loves his commuters or pure sports cars. So this was basically a rant on which cars he doesn't like and less so a review of an example of a modified E92. Okay, Mark, we get it, it is not an S2000. And the comments about how interior doesn't look or feel special are nonsense, especially since this car is a stripper. A GT2 RS has the same interior, even can have the same seats as a Carrera. No one bats an eye.
Not true its just a counter point. If you want a pure design you have to go to more purpose built cars. There are way better luxury cars that do everything better. There are better sports cars, but the magic of the M3 is that it blends both. But in that quest it loses something. I was talking about this with a guy from ABT in regards to washers and dryer combos from LG. One device that does washing and drying, except it doesnt do either as well as seperate units. Its for people who want convenience or don't have the space. These mixed purpose cars have same problems as other things we use and buy. All season tires, low fat lattes, soy hot dogs etc.
@@savagegeese Did you end up buying the LG pair?
@@savagegeese This is what I keep telling my mom about those 3-in-1 shower soaps! She just doesn't get it!
@@savagegeese I am biased as I drive an F80 M3 and love having a family four-door that hauls ass on track (I'm a beginner still). I just think that there's a certain special place for cars like this, which is why fast wagons exist as well. Cars are always a compromise, like other things in life.
GT2 RS doesn't try to be anything other than a sports car. It helps it does that better than almost every car out there
"Why do you love the E92?"
Matt: **goes on a two-minute emotional and personal story of why it's a great car**
SavageGeese: "Ok" 4:51
That goober Matt is just too much to take.
Understed comment
Mark is not afraid to show emotions regardless of being a lean mean fighting machine.
And I respect that.
Lol
Mark is an android.
Marks dream garage is a Nissan Rouge and a Miata.
Murano Cabriolet* lol
Don't forget the Ariel Atom.
LOL.
Is the Rouge a new model? Only available in red.
Murano for weekends and Rogue for commanding respect.
Last M3 with 2 door like E30
Only M3 with V8
Last M3 with NA engine
Shut up before they go up even more! 😅😪
Only M3 with V8 kinda counts as a negative as it became more of a muscle car than sportscar
Not the only v8 M3 🧐
@@stephenwilson2793 the only V8 M3 that was actually sold in reasonable numbers
@@TheImperfectGuy that’s not what most of these videos state tho is it. 🤷🏼♂️🧐😂
I’ve owned this car since new since 2009 and have 236k kms. It’s the best everyday sports car that you can own hands down. I have the 4 door, and it just does everything really well. People shit on the RB, I changed mine at 160k kms because of the hype and they came out flawless. My throttle actuators are still original, and have not broke.
I drive it year round in summer, and snow. And I have about 8 track days
You probably always heat your oil up and don’t constantly redline right? Is yours a manual as well? I have 98 and am thinking about changing around 110-120
Same ..new from 2009 . I’m in New Zealand. It’s a masterpiece. It’s an original M car ! When M meant the Motorsport division of BMW.
do you have two change the rod bearings on a regular basis or is it a one time fix? because thats really the only thing turning me of of buying one of these because I don't wanna have to spend 3 grand on changing rod bearings on a regular basis
@@Person-cv9dj one time with new spec bearings at about 60k miles or 100k kms
@@khangsingchopel6443 I pretty much never redline. Less than 2k on repairs in like 4 years. 80k miles. Always laugh out fucking loud when I hear non owners preach to me about unreliability.
The rod bearings will for sure be collectible
So many collectible paper weights for all the bills that come with the car. Its a feature.
Now all jokes aside, I do think if drivers warm this car up better, use lighter weight oil in colder climates, and baby it, till it warms up much like I do my ISF, I surmise those rod bearings would see a lot less wear.
Anecdotal experience but what I've realized about many BMW owners is, new buyers beat their cars hard within warranty, no warm up, no waiting for the engine to get to temp. And then the cars inevitably take a shit years later. If more new owners were gentle on these motors pre warmup, they would prolly hold up better.
But dollar for dollar spent, in the M3 one would be maintaining to keep stock power, in the ISF, that money gets you power mods. Can't hate on the M3 but at the same time, that oil weight was just too heavy for a street car. 10w60 is never going to warm up but will do better lap after lap.
who cares, just do them when you buy a car with deferred maintenance
@@hovnojede010101 internet trolls care 😂
I love that people act like rod bearings are the only thing that breaks on this car. It's the MOST catastrophic thing that can break on this car, but far from the only thing that breaks on these cars. Ask me how I know.
@@hamsterbrigade throttle actuators and ICV - that’s it. Fix those and you have a bullet proof S65.
Source; owned 2x - racked up over 150,000 miles total over a decade.
"I can't go to the grocery store with my 2 door sports car", while I'm here using a moped with a backpack
"I need a 3-row SUV right now for the kid I might theoretically have in 5 years"
Costco / Sam's Club has led the demand for huge vehicles. Has nothing to do with women who want to sit up high, safety, or anything.
The most usable 2 seater sports car is the Cayman/Boxster. I traded in my E92 M3 for one and aside from never having to take more than 1 other person to lunch or dinner with me the daily usability was just as good due the trunk and the frunk. Apparently you can even get a set of golf clubs in the trunk if you have the right golf bag.
I didnt know i was going to home depo to pick up "groceries" are there people im getting with each gallon of milk?
In the summer I bring my 1980 fiat spider to the construction site on fridays and can fit a couple tool bags and my pouch in the trunk 🤷🏽♂️ it’s like 4 cubic feet.
I'm generally a JDM man but the e92 coupe is the definition of gorgeous automotive design.
@Capt Hook maybe it’s just because I’m young but that is starting to show it’s age. The E92 has aged better.
@Capt Hook The CSL is just a e46 m3 with a different bumper and a trunk spoiler. So
I’m with Cap’n. The E92 is all rounded and angular at the same time. Like it can’t make its mind up.
M3’s go in order.
1) E30. Fukn bad ass.
2) E36. Like a scalpel.
3) E46. As round as a M3 should ever be.
@@j.3854 With this logic all modern cars would still look like 60s muscle cars.. designs change and the e92 has aged better than the E30, E36, and E46.. Especially when compared to the E6X's 5/7 series.
@@TheRealHypervizor sure it’s better than those atrocities (5/7), but I don’t know anyone saying the girlish look of a E92 is better than the first three M3 designs. Like, it’s not even close. And it has ZERO to do with that bs you stated about muscle cars blah blah. The rear of a E92 is atrocious. All narrow and pouty. The front had stupid angles and a ridiculous hood. The door handles are fat and rounded. Compare a Estoril Blue E36 M3 sedan with Forged Style 24’s. No comparison.
A Henna E30 M3. No comparison.
A Interlagos Blue E46. No comparison.
Did the European delivery on this M3 at the Welt in Munich. They showed me the car, shut the hood gently since you’re inside this “BMW world” and it’s pretty quiet, and then down the ramp you go out the door. The autobahn is only a short distance, unlimited speed begins not too far from that. Keeping in mind the break-in period, I accelerated up to 80, then 90, then hit 100. Felt so strong, handled so well, I put my foot into a bit more. 110 then 115, now at 120 suddenly the left side of the hood came up! It never latched completely from the Welt!!! The right side stayed latched or this could have been a disaster. I pulled over, no damage or twisting found, but wow that was close. Went from hero to nearly zero in less than 20minutes. Fun times 🤪
Did the dance in 2013 with the M3 coupe competition with the manual. Drove it to Venice Florence Pisa cinque terre Monaco nice Arles and then back to Nice for drop off. By the end I had broken it in and did a pull to 140 mph in France but had to be careful with the speeding cameras. Now that they got rid of the Euro delivery even less reason to get a BMW
@@johnlee5307 for real
THIS is why its worth way less off the lot JK lol
No way around it. You bought this generation M3 for the V8 an M5 for the V10. First and only generations to use these configurations. Both were high-revving, naturally aspirated, and sounded amazing.
Reliability be damned. These are instant classics.
Too bad the V10 has/had the reliability of an AUDI LOL
E46 M3 GTR was the first M3 with a V8 😏🧐
@@stephenwilson2793 The E46 M3 had an inline-6.
@@madpistol i missed out the GTR bit 🫣😂
@@stephenwilson2793 Indeed: "The BMW E46 M3 GTR came to life in February 2001 and was the first M3 in the history of the company to feature a V8 engine. The only reason that the BMW M3 GTR was made was to go along with the Le Mans rules stating that any vehicle raced must be produced in certain numbers for a certain length of time before the racing car starts its season. Since the Le Mans M3 GTR was a V8, the road car had to be, as well. To fulfill this rule, BMW put 10 road going M3 GTR models on sale after the 2001 season, for €250,000 each. The road car used a slightly detuned version of the P60 rated at 380 horsepower at 7,000 rpm - complete with dry-sump lubrication and sharply canted radiator with hood venting. Power was transmitted through a racing style twin-disc clutch to a 6-speed manual gearbox and variable locking M differential."
Never thought I’d see the day when Mark jumped back into a E92M3!!😂
It’s like someone put a gun to marks head to do the final thoughts..lol
“You’re basically buying this for the engine!”
Hey it works for the Challenger Hellcat, why not an M3?
because it's a BMW, duh
Because the 3 series is a way nicer and better car than the Challlenger. I do love both cars though
@@hovnojede010101 And what's the problem with that? Did you not work hard enough in class to have a decent paying job to afford one?
@@jamiefisher1430 it was a sarcastic comment based on mark's words, that one shall not buy an m3 just for its engine but can buy a hellcat like op eluded in their comment. I drive a bmw
@@jamiefisher1430 uh oh guys, make way for the upper middle class white guy who definitely worked super hard (tm) to get that cushy finance job.
To Mark
My best friends dad has this car, and when I showed him this video here’s what he said: “The bandaid kid is right”
He said that the whole “you can drive it everyday to the shops” is totally false. The running costs and the threat of unreliability keeps it in the garage 24/7. And if he wanted a garage queen, he would’ve bought a more dedicated car anyways. He said it’s the worse of both worlds and the compromise sucks
He’s only keeping it now for investment sakes, and only takes it out to stretch it legs, but otherwise, he said he would’ve spent his money elsewhere if he could go back in time.
Right on point SG. I love your honesty, please don’t ever water down your criticisms because you’re worried that the fanboys will get upset. Honesty is why a lot of us subscribed to you in the first place.
Also, maybe change your name to bandaid guy?
Cheers
At one point i had to daily drive my e90m3 for about 4 months and never once had an issue. Now it sits most of the time but mine has been extremely reliable.
@@Astheros Same here, I daily my E90 M3 and its been reliable. Maintenence costs should be factored in when purchasing the car. If the person not willing to either pay the price or do the work themselves then they shouldn't buy the car. I just need to add a porsche 911 to complete my two car garage.
I've had my 08 E90 M3 with 120k miles for a little over two years and it is almost always daily driven. Never once have I had an issue with any sort of failures. Normal routine maintenance and simply letting it warm up to proper temps has mitigated any issue. I'm thankful that I have not experienced what others have dreaded for years.
@@blvck5979 purchased a used 09 m3. Changed the rod bearings and all fluids and now I cant imagine myself not dailying this car. I cant take off the smile on my face at 6am driving to work!
I also daily mine, driven almost everyday. Rod bearings have been done. And other than being not so great on gas, I don’t see why it can’t be used as a daily or only car. Though I will say picking a clean well maintained example is really important in terms of keeping running costs down.
Having owned this car for 6 years this is a very special car to me! No issues to date and one of the most reliable cars I have ever owned. I relate more with Matt from Obsessed garage how he describes this car than I do with Mark. 6 years later and I still smile every damn time I hear that V-8. It's not the fastest car out there, but it is not why I bought it. It has been my everyday driver for all these years.
This is one of the coolest M3 cars I've seen, exceptional spec. I love this car. Its a superior automotive experience. I've owned 2 M3's and enjoyed each one. You simply have to have large cash behind you to keep up with the repairs and normal maintenance of these cars. Nothing from Europe that is true high performance is inexpensive to own. Great review.
I fell in love with this channel at your Mazda 3 Turbo review (I want it so badly!!!) Your ability to cover all the finer things of a car, either alone or with other people, is why I keep coming back to each of your new videos. The two of you work extremely well together, and honestly, you guys ARE the best car reviewers on UA-cam.
Your reviews have sooo much style AND substance Marc, I will watch them again abd again.
It’s an underrated car right now. I’ve owned 5 BMWs, and it’s the best I’ve had
I enjoyed the e39 M5 more but you’re right, this came close. I had the e93 convertible in this so the sound was even better. I do miss it sometimes but they’re fragile cars so I don’t miss all the preventative maintenance and care to keep things right.
@@aussie2uGA I’ve still kept my E39 M5 too!
@@aussie2uGA had the convertible too, with Eisenmann exhausts. Man, that sound. Especially the downshifts, jesus christ. Loved driving it. Just make sure you replace the bearings first thing you do when you get it if it hasn't been done already, then your golden
Same here! I’ve owned an E30, E36 M3, E46 M3, etc etc and my E90 M3 has been far the best.
blowing up in value
You guys always have the most respectful, car guy banter even when you disagree. Great commentary.
The way jack says coupé reminds me of how I need to pick up a few things from Targèt
If you call BMW's new 4 door coupe-sedan things "GRAN COOP" then it sounds really weird, so I'd imagine it just gets pronounced like that by association
I enjoy it. It's a nice salute to the way the word is properly pronounced in French, and is in England. Only the Americans mangle it.
If you say "coop" you're uncultured.
As an owner of both a 350R and an E92 ( slick top as well but I have Nav) , they are alike and different. The 350 is a bigger car, wider, louder, more crude, very grippy seats. The M3 is polished, quieter, thought I would hate the DCT, but have grown to appreciate it for an every day driver. Great content here as usual, thank you gents.
I already know what they're going to say about this car. Just watching because I love the E92 M3.
Burial!
Loving the collaboration with Obsessed Garage.. He's got a great collection but even further he has an addict like passion toward loving his vehicles through mods/customization and maintenance to them. Buying a used car from his collection would be a dream.
I bought my 2011 18 months ago. I don’t get to drive it often, but when I do it puts a smile on my face and I think I’m still battling 1000 with getting thumbs up at stop lights. True a timeless car.
Never jumped on a UA-cam video quicker than this one!! Long live those E92’s.
Best car channel on all of youtube, and most underrated. Keep these works of art coming please.
Always appreciate your honesty and going to review the suspension first. No one does a review as complete as yours.
spot on. Can't agree more on the driving impressions Mark. Great discussion between the two of you guys
Beautiful and understated exterior design, especially after the big nose generations were unveiled. German cars back then didn't have to flex their performance so hard.
Never owning an e92, but spending a lot of time in one (and occasionally driving said car), it felt like the e92 was BMW had built an upmarket muscle car. Thank you for real world experience reviews!
Love the content and the differences that you both have! Keep up there aftermarket car reviews!!! I was going to buy one in 2015. But I didn’t buy it because of some of the reasons you mentioned. I bought a C6. Z06 instead. Hey, that’s an idea a review on the C6 Z06! That will get you tons of views!!! Thanks for the content!
Owned an e90 328i back in the day, it truly was a great driver's car. Nice and nimble. People argue the previous generations were far better, but the e90 was a nice and comfortable daily driver also. The average driver won't really miss the added prowess of earlier generations.
It is very simple, in the very near future this generation M3 will be the most wanted M car BMW has ever made!
The simplicity of the interior is a growing selling point when you compare it to the newer M cars with over styled interiors and digital gauges. Enthusiasts get too hung up on sports car specs, so at the end of the day most need a car that is a swiss army knife and not a samurai sword.
During high school this car was my poster car and REAL dream car. Fast forward to age 23 I worked hard and got a BMW M4 Comp 2018. I'm happy with the power and how the M4 is but man the e92 has never left my mind. That car has such a soul and simplicity to it. Hope to get one this year... But great review!!!!
Love when you guys voice out ur different opinions.
How dare you scroll through the comments while the legend is doing his review.
Settle down... lol
Owned one, loved driving it, hated owning it.
Maintenance?
Rod bearings
Funny thing is am looking into buying e60 m5 for 14k. Is it a good buy?
Agreed. Had an E90 M3. Succinct and on point with my thoughts exactly.
Agree I had one also. After several BMWs I’ll never buy another. I’m a Porsche fanboy now, currently own 5.
Rod. Bearings.
Love my dct 2012 m3 comp. It feels like a sports car and always adds a smile to my day. Warm up the car probably and drive it without trying abuse it and the car won’t give you headaches. If you can find one without high miles and not beating. You won’t regret it
I always appreciate SG content. thanks!
Manual transmission, perfect driving position and combustion engine. Of course, it's a collectable master piece!
Lol no its not. Terrible reliability, every high school kid can afford a used one and puts fart cans on it. Nothing collectible about it. M135i is the only real collectible BMW.
comments like these is why I can dominate poor ignorant people so easily with inference and common sense
@@VanguardX M135i is an ugly hatchback 4cylinder
@Vanguard every collectors car is a perfect car with no issues?
@@VanguardX The M135 is a collective but the m3 isn't LMAO. Obviously troll bait.
I am still mystified by the use of alcantara on the surface you will literally touch and grip every time you drive
It looks cool when it's fresh and that's about it. I hate touching those surfaces even when the car's new, let alone after it's been caked in human slime.
If your not a cheeseburger eating funk boy and drive with greasy hands you too can have nice things...
@@coreywagganer just touching it messes it up. It’s literally a terrible cheap material that makers like porche made popular by charging big sums for cheap material
Not if you clean it regularly and properly.
because it feels nice in hands and offers from grip with both bare hands and racing gloves. maintenance is no different from having a leather steering wheel. takes 20 mins top to clean a alcantara steering wheel. source: have had one for 5+ years and it looks like almost like new
The one thing I've learned from this and past videos. Don't pay attention to what Obsessed garage does because it normally doesn't make any sense. Great video and commentary by you both though, as always.
Savagegeese making me feel alive again for the second time this month. You guys gotta stop making me tear up when I wake up. When I was new in my industry, I had a super cool boss who had a an E92 M3 and an E70 X5M. He was cool enough to let me drive it *without him*, make deliveries in the SUV, and I spent the rest of my adult career wishing for one of my own. I just bought them two months ago :)
Great video, a deep dive on an iconic car.
I love this dude, he doesn't sugar- coat shit!
Recognized the OG M3 withing 5 sec of B-roll. Matt had that thing DIALED IN. Fantastic review guys.
That intro is art. I keep coming back just to rewatch it!
For me its the perfect car, such a timeless design and engine, most of us does not look for a pure sports car meaning a tracker
I'm excited for all of the *"Rod Bearing"* comments :-)
Only true BMW owners spend more to repair the car than the car is worth.
@@swgdsm #Preach :-)
@@swgdsm Yup! All part of the BMW charm.
I personally know two people who have had their bearings fail. And they are both old people who never hit redline, had the car serviced at the dealership for everything.
@@pinecity3234 Need the old "Italian Tune Up"
Damn! That intro was so good I had to watch it twice! I love this era of BMWs. Just beautiful
E-92 M3...defiantly a future classic. Matt did an amazing job with that car. All mods are so tastefully done!
'If you're on the fence about this car, buy it now before it gets crazy expensive' - I've forced my wife to listen to this on repeat for the last 30 minutes
What is the difference between "collectable" and "collectible?"
"Collectable" describes items able to be collected. (e.g., payments, keys).
"Collectible" describes items considered worthy of collecting by enthusiasts (e.g., coins, stamps).
Thank you.
A collectable collectible may be collected at the collectables store.
@@GoldenCroc So close.
@@GoldenCroc wrong
@@feikebeukeboom7726 I dont think so. There are stores named "Collectables", unless you are talking about something else in the sentence?
I used to have e92 335i Le mans Blue/saddle brown interior what a great car it was, so much fun.
Just finished the EveryDay Driver podcast with you guys on it!
Jack and Mark, you guys heavily influenced my order of an M240. Thank you! I'm going to cook so many weiners on my long, straight 6.
Real anxious to see the SG couple review the new Lexus IS500 when that is available, speaking of V8 sedans.
I personally love BMW manual transmission, no rev hang and great smooth shifter feel!
I’ve purchased two of these. Love it. Love that it’s a want to be sports car. I added Apple CarPlay. It has the full leather. Alpine White over Fox Red. CFR. DCT. Just drove it from Boston to Florida to Orange County. Love it.
More BMW content please! Really enjoy your guys' insight on the M cars.
Great video! Nice to see you guys teaming up with Obsessed Garage. I honestly think that the E9# 328i or 330i with a manual transmission and sport package is the better daily driver. It is not as complicated as the M3, weighs less, has better steering feel, has much better fuel economy, and has the sweet naturally aspirated inline 6 engine. It is not fast, but it does not need to be for daily driving. You can push it on regular roads without engaging in reckless driving in a matter of seconds. Coupling the E9# 328i or 330i with a dedicated sports car (e.g., E85 Z4, Porsche Boxster) is the better way to go in my opinion.
You also forgot the N52B30 Engine in the 328/30i, its the most reliable modern NA Inline 6 Petrol Engine BMW has ever build!
I have both cars and you are 100% on point with this comment.
@@mirkogiuliano1515 I love the N52. I am in the process of installing the 3 stage intake manifold and AA headers on my 2007 BMW 328i to maximize its power potential while still keeping it naturally aspirated.
This is why papagoose likes his Lexus V8's.
I would rather have a 911, that's what gets the ladies.
@@dragospahontu ladies are temporary, lexus is for ever
@@singular9 that a good line, but the 911 is also forever contrary to popular believe.
Obviously the new ones aren't as reliable as the N/A engines.
Great car. Timeless, cool, useable & collectible.. but Mark’s comments are valid
I have a 2013 E92 M3, silverstone in colour. Absoltuely original since I bought it new, now done 54k klms, (30k miles). A beautifully tight car on the road but tnot my daily driver. I drive it about once a month for pure driving pleasure (never commuting :) and when I get into it, I fall in love again!
If I squint my 335i looks like a m3
They're very reliable and serviceable. My oil change at Walmart was only $29.99 (with coupon). Tires only $49.99 each! America, what a country! 🤗
$50 each for tires? Good luck with such trash rubber.
The intro track slaps! I remember hearing a synth version of it from a previous video :)
God damn, Goose. This video is a masterpiece. Well done.
I imagine this is what a Honda V8 would sound like if they made one
Like a Ferrari 458
I’ve loved the Obsessed Garage features on this channel. As always, Savagegeese filming is top-notch.
I watch these on my good tv, that’s how good these videos are. Not phone worthy, tv worthy
I love mine. I've owned later model and faster cars (M2 and Cayman GT4) and I sold them and only kept the manual E92 because it's cool and practical too.
This is a dream car for me to own, I already see the prices increase you use to be able to find clean examples for like $15k now it’s $25k for something decent
time to thrown my life savings away brb
@@bayareaomg got mine for $17k now
@@BMWROYAL got an extra one i can buy ?🙃😭
Own one now. Driven a LOT of different sports/hypercars. Can’t say I agree with Mark. Even purpose built sports cars have a hard time competing with the smiles per gallon that I get with the M3.
The induction noise on this thing sounds amazing,a very special m3
One of my dream cars, I hope next week I'll buy mine, and it is a MANUAL!
for someone like me who doesn't have the luxury of having multiple cars, my E90 M3 is the near perfect "One Car"
I subscribed to savagegeese and now my N/A Honda has more torque than rpm.
This M3 goes perfect with my morning coffee. Nice into music too.
I had a 2007 E92 Convertible. Sounded amazing.
"And you have a back seat big enough for people you hate" 🤣
I mean this is inevitable. All the performance cars from the early 2000s will become collectible in the next future years.
Dodge neon srt will appreciate fastest.
True. Especially when we have got lesser of them compared to the 90s.
FYI the e92 series was late 2000s - early 2010s
@@suryamp12 BMW sucks so I’m not caught up on the intricacies of their release years. But thanks for the info
@@suryamp12 e46 is the one he refers to
Super clean and perfect mods. Sees Matt. Ah, of course.
Many great points made here for buying a 335i to commute in. Then a purpose built sports car for the weekend.
Definitely a collectible. Yes the engine is special, but the design is also awesome, head turner. I think M took a sports sedan and took it as close as it could to a sports car while still being a daily, job done. If I had the space for a daily and a weekend car, would not want an M, an AMG, etc, but I only have space for one car, so these more extreme but daily drivable sport sedans are targeting my wallet!
I'll fight mark about his E92 opinions
My money is on Mark.
@@smeegain3657 his cool, but i disagree
Thank you Mark for not making this car out to be this mythical legend that’s way better than it actually is. I owned one new and as a whole the car was underwhelming and other than its extremely high revving motor it just wasn’t the type of car that I fell in love with and I personally enjoyed the 2015 E46 Competition I traded for it a lot more
years ago, I sat in one of these, with the regular seats, those seats are the most comfy, soft and supportive couch on wheels that has ever graced my toosh. Then I looked up the maintenance, JUST oil you need about $150. Not that I couldn't afford it... I didn't want to. so I stuck with my $40 oil+filter change in my STi
So, everyone can agree that the E92 M3 was a magical vehicle. But I have to agree with Mark. These things are so ridiculously expensive to maintain that it just isn't worth it over cars offering similar capability like the S550 Mustang, or SS 1LE Camaro. It just isn't. But to all the people that can rightly afford these things and they can maintain them, all the power to you! We'll always love these cars, even though me as a "normal" person wouldn't touch ownership with a twenty foot pole lol.
I'd take an E92 M3 over any S550 Mustang besides the GT350 & even then it's close. The Coyote sounds horrible & the MT82 is awful not to mention the interior still sucks. The advantage of the E92 M3 is to my ears it sounds better than the GT350 & the throttle response is waaaay better.
I have one so I might be slightly biased, but YES 😆
Wow this video was superb!
I worked at a Mercedes Benz dealership in 2014; someone traded in a 2009 E92 M3; the dealership got fuc*** on it. It needed like 10 grand worth of work. I guess they didn't see that when they were appraising it LOL.
they were noobs and hungry for the sale. it was probably the rod bearings which could have easily been checked. once they're repaced it's great
@@hazardeur not sure but repairs may have been far North of 10gz because they were looking to wholesale it, or sell to a mechanic and no one wanted to buy it. They basically had it parked for a long time. Don't know what they ever even did.... my point is these cars are MONEY PITS!
@@didafm but they are really not. If you are proactive about these two issues, you're pretty secure. Any Porsche etc has higher cost and they have their fair share of stuff not working, too. I just had insurance on my engine and drivetrain and then it's no issue with the E9x's
@@hazardeur rod bearings easily checked? What's this easy procedure that you speak of?
@@cbrooks2767 i wasn't saying the procedure as such is easy. I reckon you have to disassemble the engine to change them. But I ain't no mechanic so I just went to my mech, he did it and it cost a fraction of what it would have if i left the faulty ones in and after a few days you can pick up your car. Easy enough for me, especially if you put it in relation to what could happen.
I’m surprised he let you guys drive his car. He’s known for being obsessed.
the opening shots are beautiful
Been a fan of your channel since the beginning 😎
This car has one of the best sounding NA V8's, right up there with the gt350. I love this car!
Only one I'd buy...
Best sounding m3 hands down
@@KAWTELENUH he was right when he said it sounds like a muted GT350. Just sounds amazing...
As an european I prefer crossplane crankshaft V8.
But not much else other than the sound! Try driving a couple of rounds in any track and you need to replace tires, brake pads and rotors after you exit feeling it's too heavy and not so well balanced. With the aftermarket parts you need for this to make it a proper sports car plus rod bearings and throttle actuator preventive fixes you have a lot of options out there. Much better gettng a manual E46 with proper history
It’s a manual boys
The auto is better
@Nomen Clature only in America lol
It's a boy manuals
@@smeegain3657 lol
@@hallohey8995 There isn’t an auto available in e9x M cars.
I remember when MT did a H2H of this car VS the '11 Mustang GT 5.0
The Mustang almost did the same lap time and 1/4 mile compared to the Bimmer.
I even was amazed with that Mustang track performance, that I bought that model year Mustang and modified its Suspension to track it at my local PCA. I was lucky to face off that same V8 BMW model at the track, that M3 had aftermarket bigger brakes and the DCT. My 5.0 was a 6MT.
At the track I was bitting the heels of the BMW but had to abandon the track after 5-6 laps because my brake's fluid boiled.
I felt that I was having to put more effort on my car to keep up with the BMW M3 (V8) at the curves, probably also the Bimmer was lighter than my car.
I owned the E46 m3 and yes the throttle response is insane!
The E90/92/93 M3s are one of those really special cars on the BMW timeline. They're light, tossable, lively and I love the character of the S65 engine. Yes, it is a quirky motor with ITB and rod bearing issues but they're well documented and have proper solutions to correct any issue. I remember when you guys tested Jack's Corvette Grand Sport and one major complaint was that the V8 motor, though powerful, had no character. This S65, despite it's light torque numbers, solves that.