Excellent. You don't screw around, you don't turn it into a 30 minute video with a bunch of irrelevant junk, you don't gloss over what you are describing, you get straight to the point and clearly show how to use it. Subscribed.
For FSX, I have the VRS Superbug, which is the best Hornet sim ever made. Not only does all the systems function, like the radar, weapons, etc. it has the best manual ever made. But it doesn't work in 2020 so the default hornet is the only thing available. It's such a let down. But I swear on the real one if you're in heading select mode you can go to the scratch pad, enter the heading and hit enter and it will take you to that heading. If I type 210 ENT the plane will go there. The BALT function works the same in the new one, but nothing else. Nice tutorial. Liked and subbed
Thanks! I just started flying this plane and touched every screen like a 4 year old-pressing and touching and nothing happening. Lol. I appreciate you. Cheers!
What I like about this jet the most is how easy it is to land and how you can just point into a certain direction and hit autopilot to go to that point without hitting anything. It's a really convenient jet for free flight when you don't have a specific route. You can just point in a direction, and you're there. The autopilot feature for a locked angle is extremely helpful for pointing at a runway and letting the jet go down for you. I use the f18 for a lot of my free flight. The f35 is my second favorite for following routes.
This is really helpful. It's absolutely INSANE that Microsoft don't bother including instructions for aircraft with the game. You're just supposed to guess, with a plane whose controls bear no similarity at all to a regular civilian plane.
I'm just learning the Hornet on MSFS 2020, and man, you know some stuff. Not sure how you even figured all that out, but I'm impressed. See you in the air buddy.
Very useful, thanks. Subscribed. Nice to learn how to use the autopilot, rather than simply listen to the contributor showing off how much he knows, and how easy it is for him.
Deep Sigh... It is so nice to have clear, well-thought-out instructions. Thank you. I've recently taken a deep dive into jets and got the Miltech Supercarrier pack. Having a better understanding of these planes is essential, and you are always a great resource. Hopefully, we will see a landing tutorial on that great carrier pack.
In comparison, flying the EF Typhoon is like driving a modern car :D Thanks for the infos, I was a little confused why the plane didn´t take my inputs anymore after pressing a few buttons on that display lol
Quickest way if you're okay with keybinds instead of clicking in the real cockpit, ctrl+alt+z switches off all autopilot functions in one go. Very useful
THanks man this helped. I like how CPL mide works with the waypoint mode like it did in FSX, however it should also be implemented with ILS mode just like in FSX so you could enter an ils freq, and just switch from WPT to ILS and makes sure Coupled to ILS. It was nice in FSX
That'd be nice :-) I'm hoping they implement the CRS functionality at some point so I can cover TACAN navigation, which is supported but you can't choose your course to the station, only go directly to it.
Also, I was on your stream talking about Xbox Mouse issues… found a wired mouse and it’s working perfectly. If anyone asks about it wired is the way to go until it’s patched
I’m using logitech wireless usb dongle which should be the same as wired (in respect to function). I still crazy mouse issues. So many issues i may just give up until Asobo addresses these problems.
@@RATTMAN That’s what I’m saying, it’s not the same. I used the wireless dongle mouse and always had issues as well until I found a cheap wired mouse laying around and the wired mouse works absolutely perfectly
Thanks! Everything is well, just waiting for major new features to come out to make videos of. There are some exciting new things coming out from Working Title this year so I'll be sure to make videos when they do :-)
I didn't realize it was functional, but just tried it out and it does work. On the center display, you can enter the TACAN or VORTAC channel number (as found on the sectional charts -- e.g. LAS VORTAC is channel 116). Type 116 then click "TCN". It should update to say "TCN 116". Then click TCN to go into the TACAN menu, and it seems like you need to press "116Y" so it says "116X". Then you should see the TACAN info and bearing on your HSI. If you then press "TCN" on the HSI, you can use CPL mode to fly directly to the station.
@@KipOnTheGround Dummy me, I didn't press the On switch. Now if they or someone just gets the rest of the avionics and Auto-Throttle (used in landings) working.
I'm surprised how well they modelled the inside - it's like better, and not quite up to the sharpness of DCS - albiet I love those electronic digital displays instead of the pushbutton "123" pannel.
I'm not a DCS player but I'm having a lotta fun with the Hornet... maybe I'll have to give DCS another go sometime. It was fun learning this AP even though it's got some quirks and a lot of INOP buttons.
Amazing mate, will you possibly be doing an updated one for MSFS 2024? I'm not sure if I am encountering a bug or not but it will not hold heading or ground track mode at all, it holds it when i first activate but then will just start drifting, does AP disconnect very easily?
Thank you so much for this! I finally started flying the F/A-18 since the Top Gun DLC dropped and this helped alot! Has anything been updated since this video was made?
Yes! The CRS selection switch is active now. It’s next to the HDG switch. So you can easily fly to or from a TACAN (or VORTAC) station on a specific bearing.
Funny, mine doesn't do any of the things mentioned in this video. Despite following it to a tee. Am I missing something? Doesn't hold heading or bank, or pitch, and when I select BALT it doesn't pick the nearest 1000' alt and lock on. Even my right MFD doesn't have the menu choices yours has. I'm using the F/18 that came with MSFS2020, is yours something different?
@@panoramictuber6343 yeah, it’s mad annoying. The other aircraft haven’t given me any issues. It’s been awhile since I tried the 777 and 747 - it gave me issues around launch.
Hey, ive gotten into MFS only a couple days ago, i'm able to do basic stuff on the hornet, instruments wise, and also landings somewhat decent. Would be interesting however, if you could do a full guide on the F18, from starting up, to flying a course to landing. I've tried searching and it's hard to find a full detailed guide, it's all very general.
Good afternoon. Congrats on the video. I have a problem: after I activate the AP, I can't deactivate it anymore. Having to disable FPAH by clicking on this and any other key but when I leave this screen with the CNI, the AP remains active. How can I resolve this?
When i click on BALT to hold altitude it does Not engage. Balt is selected with the highlighted green square 🟩 but the altitude does not hold. Is there a way to do it?
Hmm. I'm wondering if your stick/yoke/controller needs a "dead zone" increase in the Controller/Sensitivity settings. If there are unintentional inputs to the pitch/roll/yaw it'll auto-disconnect the autpilot. Do you have this issue with any other autopilot?
Only way I know of is by using the AP disconnect shortcut. It's Shift+Z on keyboard by default, and most yokes/sticks have it set to a big (usually red) thumb button.
How many times do I need to watch this to remember all that stuff? (Rhetorical question) Probably at least 3 times while actually doing that stuff :) EDIT with question(s). I did several searches to find out the best speed to put the flaps down and to put the landing gear down, but haven't found that information, so I was hoping you could shed some light on those questions. As background info. I flew to Homey this morning, and everything was going great. I had an excellent approach to the runway, flaps down and lined up to land, but I pressed the landing gear button on my Thrustmaster, but my landing gear wouldn't come down. Is there a speed limitation or something? Thanks for your help.
Great lesson. Thanks! Can you explain how to incorporate use of auto thrust with the autopilot features discussed today? In particular, the easiest and most effective way to engage and disengage. Appreciate!!!
I did experiment a bit with using the GTN750 mod (since you can open it from the in-game toolbar in any plane) but wasn't able to edit the flight plan and have it stick -- it kept deleting it basically. But, simple direct-tos seemed to work fine. You can get the free version here: pms50.com/msfs/ You can also navigate via TACAN/VORTACS, but because the CRS knob isn't functional yet you can't specify your course yet. If they make the CRS knob functional in an update then I'll probably do a second tutorial for how to use and navigate w the TACANs.
@@KipOnTheGround GRN750 works great with all the other aircraft buy with the FA18 Hornet it seem not to work properly. With all the other craft GTN750 is GREAT.
Hi, I know this is off topic but I'd like to know if you still use onair company? Because I wonder which one between onair and air hauler 2 chooses. I am looking for a career as a pilot more than running a company. I already have the skypark that I like too.now that I have improved a lot as a pilot I want to have a better experience with onair or air hauler 2..? Thank you
If the subscription cost isn't a barrier (it's *much* cheaper if you prepay for 1 or even 2 years instead of doing month-to-month), I prefer OnAir over the others because it's all done online and everything is backed up. You also have the future options of getting into renting out your planes to others, hiring and managing an entire airline (if not on the "Thunder" server), running FBOs, joining or running a virtual airline, etc. that make it great for long-term use. I use it as a solo pilot too, but love that those options are there if I ever wanted to try them out. NeoFly is free and has a lot of great mission types, so it's a no-brainer to try out as well. I only tried Air Hauler briefly and it just didn't click for me for some reason (I probably have just gotten used to OnAir and Skypark), but IMO anything that meets your budget and career-mode needs will get the job done -- all of them are great at motivating you to fly more :-)
@@KipOnTheGround wow thanks for that! I did take a 6 months subscribtion with onair.. I started on the Thunder server. And I think I'm already addicted. Do you have a company on this server where I could be a pilot. Instead of having one my self? Thanks again for youre time!!!
Hey Ned, you need to use your AP master disconnect button/shortcut. By default on PC, it's Shift-Z, but most yokes/sticks use a thumb button as the default AP disconnect button. Hope that helps!
Sorry I didn't cover this in the video, but you need to use the "Toggle Autopilot Master" (or "Autopilot off") shortcut, mattering what it is on your controller/peripherals. If you have a keyboard, the default is Shift Z. Most sticks and yokes will have a prominent AP toggle button on the thumb (many of them are colored red). Worst case, you may need to go into your Control Settings in the sim and bind a key/button to one of those two commands.
Excellent. You don't screw around, you don't turn it into a 30 minute video with a bunch of irrelevant junk, you don't gloss over what you are describing, you get straight to the point and clearly show how to use it.
Subscribed.
finally someone who is good at making MSFS tutorials. thank you!
Agree he is a good teacher
By FAR the best tutorial I’ve watched on this aircraft! Clean and concise! 👍🍻
This is way better than other UA-cam F-18 autopilot tutorials I've watched. Thanks.
For FSX, I have the VRS Superbug, which is the best Hornet sim ever made. Not only does all the systems function, like the radar, weapons, etc. it has the best manual ever made. But it doesn't work in 2020 so the default hornet is the only thing available. It's such a let down. But I swear on the real one if you're in heading select mode you can go to the scratch pad, enter the heading and hit enter and it will take you to that heading. If I type 210 ENT the plane will go there. The BALT function works the same in the new one, but nothing else. Nice tutorial. Liked and subbed
I dare say the F/A-18C for DCS might be the best Hornet Sim
Thanks! I just started flying this plane and touched every screen like a 4 year old-pressing and touching and nothing happening. Lol. I appreciate you. Cheers!
What I like about this jet the most is how easy it is to land and how you can just point into a certain direction and hit autopilot to go to that point without hitting anything. It's a really convenient jet for free flight when you don't have a specific route. You can just point in a direction, and you're there. The autopilot feature for a locked angle is extremely helpful for pointing at a runway and letting the jet go down for you. I use the f18 for a lot of my free flight. The f35 is my second favorite for following routes.
This is really helpful. It's absolutely INSANE that Microsoft don't bother including instructions for aircraft with the game. You're just supposed to guess, with a plane whose controls bear no similarity at all to a regular civilian plane.
I'm just learning the Hornet on MSFS 2020, and man, you know some stuff. Not sure how you even figured all that out, but I'm impressed. See you in the air buddy.
A really good explanation, not too fast, not too slow, you‘re the man! 🌟😎🌟
Yesssss!!!!! You rock. This was fantastic information. This is why you’re my favorite flight sim UA-camr. 👊🏻
I don’t have time to watch this now but just wanted to thank you for uploading this lol. Can’t wait to watch this one, loving the F-18
Extremely powerful information and given quickly. This has opened up the doors for much more Super Hornet flying!
Very useful, thanks. Subscribed. Nice to learn how to use the autopilot, rather than simply listen to the contributor showing off how much he knows, and how easy it is for him.
Deep Sigh... It is so nice to have clear, well-thought-out instructions. Thank you. I've recently taken a deep dive into jets and got the Miltech Supercarrier pack. Having a better understanding of these planes is essential, and you are always a great resource. Hopefully, we will see a landing tutorial on that great carrier pack.
I enjoy your tutorials, smooth voice , great explanations and advice. Very well done!
This is so helpful. Watched yesterday and this morning. Now flying my F-18 while going along with your video.
very informative and well explained! thanks!
Great use of zoom and the magnifying glass zoom. Awesome.,
This is one of the better tutorials I have watched! Cheers! ❤
Most clearly explained vid I have watched so far, well done 👍
In comparison, flying the EF Typhoon is like driving a modern car :D
Thanks for the infos, I was a little confused why the plane didn´t take my inputs anymore after pressing a few buttons on that display lol
Thanks, ace! I'm planning another around the world tour, this time in the Hornet. This will help a lot!
Having flown almost only civil/general aircraft, I'm surprised by how different yet simple the F/A-18 autopilot is to use
Best tutorial I have found. Will you do more please.
Your tutorials are always top tier 💯
Very nice tutorial, actually you can change the BALT altitude using CTRL+PgUp or CTRL+PgDn (or any assigned keys) on your keyboard 👍😊
okay cool, but how do you turn it off!
Move it or press CNI(like back) in a central screen and press A/P again.
Quickest way if you're okay with keybinds instead of clicking in the real cockpit, ctrl+alt+z switches off all autopilot functions in one go. Very useful
great tutorial! Very compact, simple and comfortable to watch. Just great work. :D
Thank you for the A/P tutorial!
Your video quality is a godsend
Oh you fly something fast :D I was hoping you will do an f18 video :). Really great also I hope you enjoy the current fly by wire for the f18
THanks man this helped. I like how CPL mide works with the waypoint mode like it did in FSX, however it should also be implemented with ILS mode just like in FSX so you could enter an ils freq, and just switch from WPT to ILS and makes sure Coupled to ILS. It was nice in FSX
That'd be nice :-) I'm hoping they implement the CRS functionality at some point so I can cover TACAN navigation, which is supported but you can't choose your course to the station, only go directly to it.
This is the best hands down plese plese keep this up SUBSCRIBED!!!!!
Dude, that Tutorial is awesome. Thank you very much, Sir
Also, I was on your stream talking about Xbox Mouse issues… found a wired mouse and it’s working perfectly. If anyone asks about it wired is the way to go until it’s patched
I’m using logitech wireless usb dongle which should be the same as wired (in respect to function). I still crazy mouse issues. So many issues i may just give up until Asobo addresses these problems.
@@RATTMAN That’s what I’m saying, it’s not the same. I used the wireless dongle mouse and always had issues as well until I found a cheap wired mouse laying around and the wired mouse works absolutely perfectly
As of Update 10 (Sept 2022) RALT is working.
(Though it will not stop you from crashing into mountains.)
Best UA-camr of 2021 🙇🏽
Outstanding tutorial. Thank you!
Subscribed!
Very informative video! Thank you for that
Nicely presented, thanks 😊
Super helpful video as always, thanks for this. Been a while since a new video or stream but I hope you're doing well!
Thanks! Everything is well, just waiting for major new features to come out to make videos of. There are some exciting new things coming out from Working Title this year so I'll be sure to make videos when they do :-)
Great tutorial and thank you for your time that you put in to do this :-)
Thank you! very useful information!
Thank you I finally found a good tutorial!
Wow! now i understand it. Thank-you
WOW! NOW THAT WAS A TUTORIAL!
Great tutorial! Clear, concise and very informative. What kind of specification does your PC have?
Back when I made this video, I believe I was running it at 1440p resolution, NVIDIA 3080, AMD 5900X processor.
ILS landing tutorial would be greatly appreciated :-) as I have not quite figured how to disengage GPS !
Have you been able to get the TACAN to work? According to the Release Notes TACAN was implemented in this update.
I didn't realize it was functional, but just tried it out and it does work. On the center display, you can enter the TACAN or VORTAC channel number (as found on the sectional charts -- e.g. LAS VORTAC is channel 116). Type 116 then click "TCN". It should update to say "TCN 116". Then click TCN to go into the TACAN menu, and it seems like you need to press "116Y" so it says "116X". Then you should see the TACAN info and bearing on your HSI. If you then press "TCN" on the HSI, you can use CPL mode to fly directly to the station.
@@KipOnTheGround Dummy me, I didn't press the On switch. Now if they or someone just gets the rest of the avionics and Auto-Throttle (used in landings) working.
love this, thanks
Only problem that i cant enable BALT hold for some reason. It flashes then goes back to FPAH
I'm surprised how well they modelled the inside - it's like better, and not quite up to the sharpness of DCS - albiet I love those electronic digital displays instead of the pushbutton "123" pannel.
I'm not a DCS player but I'm having a lotta fun with the Hornet... maybe I'll have to give DCS another go sometime. It was fun learning this AP even though it's got some quirks and a lot of INOP buttons.
Great vids Kip!
Nice video! Learned quite a bit!
Amazing mate, will you possibly be doing an updated one for MSFS 2024?
I'm not sure if I am encountering a bug or not but it will not hold heading or ground track mode at all,
it holds it when i first activate but then will just start drifting, does AP disconnect very easily?
Where is the switch to turn on the green strip lights outside the hornet?
Great Tutorial. But why is it when I import a custom navigation with more than 10 WPs does the CPL only read up to 7? Thanks again.
Thanks man. Great tutorial.
Why F18 sometimes just bank at one side and I cant turn it off ? How I can turn off Auto Pilot ?
How to turn off the AP？？？
Is there a way to like stop using the auto pilot stuff after using it mid flight. For instance it’s hard to land good when it has the FPATH on
Very good explanation thanks
Thank you so much for this! I finally started flying the F/A-18 since the Top Gun DLC dropped and this helped alot! Has anything been updated since this video was made?
Yes! The CRS selection switch is active now. It’s next to the HDG switch. So you can easily fly to or from a TACAN (or VORTAC) station on a specific bearing.
When you showed your flight plan what are the gray lines?
Any tutorial for air king 350? THANKS 🙏🏽
Thanks for the video
Wait can’t you balt and then type in altitude and enter and make it climb or decent
How do you turn off the fly by wire system?
You forgot to mention how to turn it off. Found out there is a paddle on the stick to flip. It took me a while to find it.
How do you turn off the auto pilot….for normal flight….
Funny, mine doesn't do any of the things mentioned in this video. Despite following it to a tee. Am I missing something? Doesn't hold heading or bank, or pitch, and when I select BALT it doesn't pick the nearest 1000' alt and lock on. Even my right MFD doesn't have the menu choices yours has. I'm using the F/18 that came with MSFS2020, is yours something different?
how do i zoom in to the panel
Silly question, but how do you completely swith auto pilot off?
Thanks allot man!! Stupid question, how do you turn off ap?
life saver, thanks!
Great info! Thanks
Is there any way to hold a certain speed
So I had a problem. I banked to the left and when I tried to bank to the right it wouldn't budge. It stayed at that left turn.
Same, I think it’s bugged
I couldn’t even raise landing gear or do anything after take off. It’s sooooo jacked up
@@CFHDime probably. I've had multiple problems with auto pilot on the FA 18. 747 does just fine tho
@@panoramictuber6343 yeah, it’s mad annoying. The other aircraft haven’t given me any issues. It’s been awhile since I tried the 777 and 747 - it gave me issues around launch.
@@CFHDime wow
Hey, ive gotten into MFS only a couple days ago, i'm able to do basic stuff on the hornet, instruments wise, and also landings somewhat decent. Would be interesting however, if you could do a full guide on the F18, from starting up, to flying a course to landing. I've tried searching and it's hard to find a full detailed guide, it's all very general.
HI, how to disable all the autopilot?
Good afternoon. Congrats on the video.
I have a problem: after I activate the AP, I can't deactivate it anymore. Having to disable FPAH by clicking on this and any other key but when I leave this screen with the CNI, the AP remains active.
How can I resolve this?
Very useful!
When i click on BALT to hold altitude it does Not engage. Balt is selected with the highlighted green square 🟩 but the altitude does not hold. Is there a way to do it?
Hmm. I'm wondering if your stick/yoke/controller needs a "dead zone" increase in the Controller/Sensitivity settings. If there are unintentional inputs to the pitch/roll/yaw it'll auto-disconnect the autpilot. Do you have this issue with any other autopilot?
i had the same issue, go into controller settings in windows and increase deadzone for x and y movements
appreciate good video i subscribe 100%
How do you disable the autopilot if you have just HDG and ALT enabled? I can't turn it off again
Only way I know of is by using the AP disconnect shortcut. It's Shift+Z on keyboard by default, and most yokes/sticks have it set to a big (usually red) thumb button.
great....thanks a lot
Hi friend, how to have in external view the military pilot with the helmet and everything? I have a civilian pilot! Can you help me please?
I think the option to choose which pilot and copilot is under General options / Misc. The new military ones are the last 2 in the options.
How many times do I need to watch this to remember all that stuff? (Rhetorical question) Probably at least 3 times while actually doing that stuff :)
EDIT with question(s). I did several searches to find out the best speed to put the flaps down and to put the landing gear down, but haven't found that information, so I was hoping you could shed some light on those questions. As background info. I flew to Homey this morning, and everything was going great. I had an excellent approach to the runway, flaps down and lined up to land, but I pressed the landing gear button on my Thrustmaster, but my landing gear wouldn't come down. Is there a speed limitation or something? Thanks for your help.
Great lesson. Thanks! Can you explain how to incorporate use of auto thrust with the autopilot features discussed today? In particular, the easiest and most effective way to engage and disengage. Appreciate!!!
I believe you have to manually press the switch behind the throttle in the cockpit. They can't seem to be bound to any control.
so how to cancel autopilot???
Thaanks so much !!!!
Im going to impress my big bro who is in the air force rn that i can fly a super hornet in MSFS when he came back :D
When I push the BALT button it directly goes back to FPAH
I’m having the same issue. Did you manage to find the solution to this?
@@Dsea93 No, unfortunately not
@@platonius4305 hey, have you find the problem?
@@slyyyn Long time ago that I played the game but when I played it last time, it worked. But I don't know how or what I did differently to before
@@platonius4305 I found the error, my stick had a minimal drift, I was able to fix it with the calibration
EXCELENTE TUTORIAL. Is there a way to change flight-plan or destination airport while in the air?
I did experiment a bit with using the GTN750 mod (since you can open it from the in-game toolbar in any plane) but wasn't able to edit the flight plan and have it stick -- it kept deleting it basically. But, simple direct-tos seemed to work fine. You can get the free version here: pms50.com/msfs/
You can also navigate via TACAN/VORTACS, but because the CRS knob isn't functional yet you can't specify your course yet. If they make the CRS knob functional in an update then I'll probably do a second tutorial for how to use and navigate w the TACANs.
@@KipOnTheGround GRN750 works great with all the other aircraft buy with the FA18 Hornet it seem not to work properly. With all the other craft GTN750 is GREAT.
Thank you!
Hi, I know this is off topic but I'd like to know if you still use onair company? Because I wonder which one between onair and air hauler 2 chooses. I am looking for a career as a pilot more than running a company. I already have the skypark that I like too.now that I have improved a lot as a pilot I want to have a better experience with onair or air hauler 2..? Thank you
If the subscription cost isn't a barrier (it's *much* cheaper if you prepay for 1 or even 2 years instead of doing month-to-month), I prefer OnAir over the others because it's all done online and everything is backed up. You also have the future options of getting into renting out your planes to others, hiring and managing an entire airline (if not on the "Thunder" server), running FBOs, joining or running a virtual airline, etc. that make it great for long-term use. I use it as a solo pilot too, but love that those options are there if I ever wanted to try them out. NeoFly is free and has a lot of great mission types, so it's a no-brainer to try out as well. I only tried Air Hauler briefly and it just didn't click for me for some reason (I probably have just gotten used to OnAir and Skypark), but IMO anything that meets your budget and career-mode needs will get the job done -- all of them are great at motivating you to fly more :-)
@@KipOnTheGround wow thanks for that! I did take a 6 months subscribtion with onair.. I started on the Thunder server. And I think I'm already addicted. Do you have a company on this server where I could be a pilot. Instead of having one my self? Thanks again for youre time!!!
small problem, how do you turn it off?
Hey Ned, you need to use your AP master disconnect button/shortcut. By default on PC, it's Shift-Z, but most yokes/sticks use a thumb button as the default AP disconnect button. Hope that helps!
once the HDG and BALT are enabled how are they then disengaged
Sorry I didn't cover this in the video, but you need to use the "Toggle Autopilot Master" (or "Autopilot off") shortcut, mattering what it is on your controller/peripherals. If you have a keyboard, the default is Shift Z. Most sticks and yokes will have a prominent AP toggle button on the thumb (many of them are colored red). Worst case, you may need to go into your Control Settings in the sim and bind a key/button to one of those two commands.
@@KipOnTheGround oh brilliant thanks is there a button for this in the cockpit if so where but anyway cheers for the reply
Does the radar work? Got a vid? Thank you again by the way. I'm flying by way points right now thanks to you.