I have to say that going to public school with Muslim friends helped show me what faith and dedication is. I was lukewarm and was also a “checkbox” Catholic, but seeing how much my Muslim friends loved their faith and was so knowledgeable (it seemed) made me search about my own. I think if I went to Catholic school, I would have been surrounded by lukewarm souls and never would have been pushed to study my own faith. Or perhaps God will always find his way to me. No one can tell. Just so blessed to be Roman Catholic 😊
bro i went to a roman catholic school and i think nearly everyone had an atheist or non-Catholic mindset. Thinking back the only thing i learned about church history from that school was the reformation and terrific it was. I wouldn't take it back though as being surrounded by atheists kinda lead me to doubt, which lead me to look into my faith, which lead to my it being strengthened. It also helped me to be a bit more skeptical and reasonable. So i guess non-Catholics have a thing for helping us out huh.
Yep I'm a former Muslim and as a religion they are very confident but I promise you the vast majority of Muslims know very little about their religion. Once I was challenged I went into a deep dive and about 6 months in it was evident Muhammad was a false prophet, I was quite devastated. I thought if Islam wasn't true then nothing is. I became an "atheist." I never in a million years thought I'd be Christian, especially catholic, but one day I had an experience with Jesus. I did the same thing with Islam, I went on a deep dive. 6 months later I continued, 6 months after that I began to attend catholic mass, not really knowing how to behave, 6 months after that I knew catholicism was the only religion in earth founded by God. Im happy to say after about 2-2½ years of self study in finally a few months into studying at a church and look forward to being baptized and taking the eucharist. Still have quite a few months left of study.
Great conversation this is pure gold and it makes me happy that I have returned to the greatest church in the world and that’s the Holy Catholic Church all Glory belongs to God in Jesus name
@@troymomma You need to give all your money to the church that I was born into and cut off all your other dependents. Ignore all the other 30000 religions, as mine is the one and only true one that is right. If you do that then you will get a great reward in heaven. You might even get to have sex with 70 odd virgins (don't worry they don't get a say in this deal) and you will sit by the right hand of god (he's right handed). oh best repent your sins too including all that stuff you did when you was on your own, you know what I mean you bad boy cos apparently he really hates that type of thing
For all the theological formation I had, I had no way of explaining the mystery of the Trinity to a Muslim friend clearer than how you did it. A million thanks for this.
it is because the trinity in itself is nonsinsical. nobody understands it . christians only accept it and some of them try to convince themselves that it makes sens.
@@electrical_cord Ok!Thank you! Your example that god has no beginning really is difficult to comprehend. But even with our limited understanding we can at least see or realise that it has to be that way, because scripture says so, and logic shows nothing else makes sense. But with trinity it’s different. Scripture shows it’s wrong. It does not even mention the word, let alone the concept. And in addition common sense or logic proves: no matter how little we are, compared to god - it makes no sense. And why worship something that makes no sense?
@@matthiasgrimm8180 Because if I worshiped something that made sense, it would not be God. Also the Trinity is mentioned in Matthew 28:19, we just gave it the name. What if we did worship things that made sense? That would not be worth worshiping. Space, matter, and time exist so whatever made it must be spaceless, timeless, and immaterial and to me that sounds like God.
@@electrical_cord Mat 4:10 Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” 😊
His "clarity of thought" is NOT a gift from any spirit dummy, it's nature, it's life, it's DNA, it's parental influence, it's environmental influence. Holy spirit? "THEIST" = "THE" "1ST" in BULLSHIT; THE LAST IN BRAINS.
@@alblack9869 I do not mind if faith and religion get's you through your life as a believer but a few questions, Why is the body so badly designed and so flawed that we have huge failures and die even from the earliest age! Why were we designed to deficate to rid the body of waste?, a truly disgusting process! surely an Almighty and knowing God could have designed a cleaner and better process to do this! If all the unborn and young children that die and therefore go to Heaven, would not a massive proportion of people who go to heaven be in these categories so what is the point?
do protestants really not teach the basics of christianity? well to be fair it shouldnt be surprising that the anglosphere has ridiculously skewed views of everything including other variants of their own religion.
@@sabin97 I came here to specifically share my respect and gratitude. I have asked numerous Catholics and have gotten not great answers unfortunately on this subject. And unfortunately a majority of Catholics have responded in a condescending tone like you have which always puts me off. It is unfortunate that you have now contributed to the majority of negative experiences I've unfortunately have had with catholics. I wish I had more positive ones. I grew up an atheist and converted to Christianity year and a half ago. I'm doing what I can to learn every day. Being condescending to others who haven't been in the faith as long it's not a great way to share truth, especially if your view is the Catholic church holds, "the fullness of truth". Shunning people who are outside of it is not going to help bring em in. Regardless still a huge fan of this Channel and many other Catholic apologists.
@@sabin97 My Apologies, I thought you were catholic, but based on some of your other comments you seem to just be an atheist who is angry and looking to pick fights. Not interested. Good luck on your truth quest. Have a lovely day✌
@@dylanschweitzer18 i'm not an atheist. and not really "looking for pick fights". just comenting. and of course you arent interested in educating yourself. you even went to protestantism. the religious movement started by a bunch of rich pieces of sht because their pal got kicked out of the club.
💗John 3:16💗 The TRUTH! Dylon, your acceptance or rejection of God's FREE Gift of Eternal Life Paid for in FULL by His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ determines where you will spend All of Eternity. Once you take your last breath here on earth your eternal character is set. Now is the time to accept Jesus Christ as your Savior! There is no other way to stand Innocent before God but to be Dressed in His Own Righteousness! That is Exactly what Jesus Christ Gives you the instant you BELIEVE on Him! You can do nothing to deserve or earn or keep your Salvation! It's All Jesus! A Gift can only be Freely received or refused. Dylon, God LOVES you Fiercely and Passionately! He did Everything necessary to save you Forever! Please Pray to Jesus now! Admit you are a sinner in need of a Savior (we All are!) And Believe in Jesus's Finished Work on the Cross for All your sins, past, present, and future. Every single Drop of His Precious Blood was for you! To Wash you White as Snow! Jesus Christ Paid a debt He did not owe because you owed a debt you could not pay. This is LOVE! 😀💗😀
Exactly,' us make mankind in our image '. Some argue that this refers to god speaking to angels but that just doesn't stand up as we are not made in the image of angels we are in god.
The church can't even agree what this codswallop means and they have been burning people at the stake for 2000 years "discussing" it. Admittedly, they have issued apologies in recent years saying it was naughty to burn people alive for pointing out amongst other things, that the earth goes around the sun. Churches (and I'm not sure which one of the thousands you identify with but I'm sure yours's is the right one) have no clear idea about what the trinity means. I'd say and here's a mad suggestion, read your books and try and see through your indoctrination from your parents and ask yourself does this make sense? "is it good?" and if you have to pick bits that do make sense but other bits don't and you chose to ignore, ask yourself why don't I just live by what I feel is the right thing to do and I don't need a book. Maybe the book is written hundreds or thousands of years ago by primitive warlords who wanted people to line up and fight for some rich bloke.
So People need to understand if one Muslim cannot answer a question does not mean the answers arent there ... He literally ssid the old testament talks of the trinity based in HIS explanation and you say its a perfect explanation? So moses and those before never thought of it? Only this dude has figured it? He should probably be a prophet then
@@muhammadsherally The Bible verse 1 Corinthians 14:2 in the Catholic Bible discusses the spiritual gift of prophecy, stating, "Above all, strive eagerly for the spiritual gifts, that you may prophesy".
This is me with my two American Protestant friends. For years, they bashed the Catholic Church, citing click bait article lies. As a "check box" Catholic at the time, it didn't really bother me until I started going to Church again. And even tho it didnt offend me, their "half truths" did push me to find the answers. And like this dude, after months of studying I was ready haha
For me it was dating an agnostic with a Jehovah’s Witness family. Always knew about the JW cult ideology so I was never interested or wondering if they were the truth it just made me research my faith and the history of the church so I could most confidently defend against their anti catholic accusations. Studying apologetics now and discussing Catholic doctrine, my boyfriend is convinced that the Trinity makes more sense rather than what his upbringing taught that Jesus isn’t God. I’m praying the Holy Spirit heals his religious trauma and he sees the truth of what the real Jesus is.
The reason the world is in this mess today is that the Church has failed miserably to preach Jesus' all-consuming and unconditional love. What He endured in the Garden alone, (the Agony) surpasses the beatings, scourging, humiliation, the crowning with thorns and the Crucifixion; yet His love for us was infinitely more than all the horrors He endured. He loves us individually and uniquely. Preach this truth instead of the other rubbish that is being preached! I enjoyed the video very much.
What about the priesthood authority for the saving ordinances that Jesus stablished like the sacrament and others that were commanded like baptism of water and of the Spirit.
@MJ I think I've been guilty of straying to the wide path. And I imagine most of us have! But Jesus chose the Narrow path of the cross-and that through him we might find our way back to narrow path he desires us to walk(even never perfectly until our great restoration). Only through Him. He warns us that without His life and death, we would all be hopeless. Glory be to Him who has given us hope! To me, The scripture has so much more hope and joy than it does " not have a positive message". Don't get me wrong, the message regarding humanity on our own devices is often negative- But the message of God and His Great and Restless Love for us knows no end. And if the Gospels themselves- documenting Christs great sacrifice for us- aren't positive...I'm not sure what is!
It is true what they say... We need to ask the right question. Many of us need to pray about being able to ask the right questions... Like Jesus... Who always left his critics speechless and embarrassed... He always asked the right questions...Thank you for such a revelation... 🌹
Excellent discussion and very loving and non-judgmental and full of logical truth. Another question I have asked some if my friends who are of the Islamic faith is; ‘How does God forgive? ‘ How does mercy and justice meet in a being who is infinitely just and infinitely merciful? We both agree that God is infinitely perfect in all His attributes and that none of His perfections can violate any of His other infinite perfections so how do justice and mercy meet in Islam? How can God forgive sin without violating His infinite justice? How can He be infinitely merciful and yet there be no forgiveness because of His infinite justice. Only in the Cross of Jesus do justice and mercy meet without either being offended. They were unable to answer other than to say God is loving and so he forgives, he just forgives. This discussion on the Mist Holy Trinity was clearer in its logic and perhaps more convincing. Beautiful! Thank you both.
if you forgive a crime that was done against you, you are not unjust. killing an inocent for the crime of a criminal however is unjust no matter how you try to explain it! i sometimes wonder if christians are sincere or if they do it on purpose when they produce nonsinsical arguments about god's justice.
The fact that you are able to breathe despite disbelieving in Allah and violating his commands is enough of a mercy for you. You will then face a reckoning of justice on the Day of Judgement
The simple answer is if you wrong a person or a living being. Then god won't forgive you or punish you until those who you wronged forgive you or get justice. But God can forgive you if you wrong him as long as you don't do the one mistake of associating god with anything else. That is true justice and true forgiveness
i love the way he handled his dilemma and made him see the light.. the way he saw the trinity in genesis and the question about why is jesus is in the cross..
Also the argument that the people crucified Jesus but God wouldn't allow his great prophet to be killed so He substituted him allowing them to be deceived. What's the point in that? So God sneaks around like a liar saving his prophet on the sly and allowing millions to be deceived? That makes no sense. Jesus said (paraphrased) : If God wanted to send an army of angels to protect me, He could.) If God wanted to save His prophet, surely the point would be to do it publicly....do some smiting or something? The public victory came with the resurrection.
no there is nothing in islam that says god won't allow his great prophet to be killed in fact the killing on the cross and the resurection of jesus would have caused no problem to islam theologicaly. the denial of the crucifixion in the curan has left christian readers pretty puzzeled since it is not necessary but it is there!!! for muslims god is just stating facts, as for deception the curan does not blame chrisians for beleiving jesus died on the cross, christians are blamed for how they interpreted that event since even if the crucufition happened this wouldn't justify christian theology. and millions were not deceived since the number of those who saw the crucifixion is not millions and most importantly THE DICIPLES DID NOT WITNESS CRUCIFIXION and i remind you that those who wanted jesus crucified did not know how he looked like and needed juds to kiss him!!!! the substitution might not be the magical operation many think it is it can simply mean that they did not now what he looked like and they crucified someone else a voluntary substitute for example, i mean wouldnt peter accepte to die in stead of jesus , he absolutely would!!!!
I’m not religious, but I love your answer. For the same reason, the dismissal of God having a son in the Quran seems arbitrary and unconvincing to me: “God is one, how could he have a son, that’s assigning partners to God” What if He wanted to have a son? Is He not able to? Are you deciding what He can do? And if He did have a son, what kind of father doesn’t want people to love His son? A loving father gets joy when his son is praised, even more so than from being praised directly, because his son’s joy is his joy, and the praise implies he’s a good father. And so it would be with God.
@@Alex-mv3ht Indeed. Even the understanding of "son" isn't how they think. It means God incarnate. "In the beginning was the Word.......and the Word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us". God is infinite (and as we understand it, the Trinity). And the idea is, man could never make up for his sins by himself so God incarnate took the punishment for all the sins on Himself. That's love. It's like a father taking the death penalty to save his son. It's like all religions are man looking for God....Christianity is God came looking for man...His creation....to save it.
You can also ask why did God deceive humans to believe in multiple religions? Why did God create Satan?? Why do we have hellfire? This world is full of deceptions so that question doesn't make sense
I have been grappling with this for awhile now because I too saw a glimpse of the Trinity in the first three verses of Genesis as well. Great to see I’m not the only one that this speaks too.
💗John 3:16💗 The TRUTH! Frank, your acceptance or rejection of God's FREE Gift of Eternal Life Paid for in FULL by His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ determines where you will spend All of Eternity. Once you take your last breath here on earth your eternal character is set. Now is the time to accept Jesus Christ as your Savior! There is no other way to stand Innocent before God but to be Dressed in His Own Righteousness! That is Exactly what Jesus Christ Gives you the instant you BELIEVE on Him! You can do nothing to deserve or earn or keep your Salvation! It's All Jesus! A Gift can only be Freely received or refused. Frank, God LOVES you Fiercely and Passionately! He did Everything necessary to save you Forever! Please Pray to Jesus now! Admit you are a sinner in need of a Savior (we All are!) And Believe in Jesus's Finished Work on the Cross for All your sins, past, present, and future. Every single Drop of His Precious Blood was for you! To Wash you White as Snow! Jesus Christ Paid a debt He did not owe because you owed a debt you could not pay. This is LOVE! 😀💗😀
@@davidlillecrapp2960 it does, where have you been living under a rock. The Bible is full of contradictions and this guy sitting there acting as if hes an ex muslim 😂 how funny is that
I have enjoyed some of your "pints" but generally they are so full of banter and waffle that I just don't feel I have to time to watch the whole thing. This one was neatly edited and quickly expressed by your very knowledgeable guest and thank you for not interrupting too much and for bring us this shortened version. Appreciated.
Thank you so much! Before watching this I was a muslim, but now you have opened my eyes and actually gave me more faith in Islam. Here are some verses that answer your question you asked about God needing us: "O humanity! It is you who stand in need of Allah, but Allah ˹alone˺ is the Self-Sufficient, Praiseworthy." 35:15. Another verse: "I did not create jinn and humans except to worship Me. I seek no provision from them, nor do I need them to feed Me." 51:56-57
I needed this video today. Over the past couple weeks I slowly started going down the Islam rabbit hole. I needed answers like this that actually makes sense. I pray this video comes up in everybody’s feed when searching for answers.
David Wood’s work is pretty good at exposing faults. I often say I respect that they worship one God, but there’s a lot of things that just seem wrong. Like, for example, the Quran allows divorce. It gives divorce rights primarily to men. However, it gives a waiting period, or an Iddah in case of pregnancy for divorce. And the Quran says there is no Iddah if there is no sex. However, it also gives certain waiting periods for those who are too old to menstruate and even for those who have not menstruated I.e, prepubescent girls. Muhammad himself married his wife Aisha when she was six (I think), waited presumably because she was sick, and then consummated the “Marriage”, when she was nine and still prepubescent bc the Hadiths say she was playing with dolls, which is an image, so it was was only allowed for those who had not yet reached puberty. They also say she was on a swing playing w her friends when they brought her to Muhammad, which I’m pretty sure also means she was prepubescent.
2. (So essentially the Quran allows Muslim men to marry, have sex with, and divorce, girls who have not yet reached puberty. Some more things that seem wrong is that Islamic theology divides the world into two places, the Abode of Islam, and the Abode of War. And the Quran commands Muslims to conquer and subject the whole world and to fight against the nonbelievers
If anyone's interested in the Muslim sources of what was said here they are: Surah 65:4 waiting period for prepubescent wife Sahih Al-bukhari 5133 Mohammed married Aisha at 6 and had sex with her at 9 Sahih Al-bukhari 6130 Aisha prepubescent playing with dolls
@@stevendoty9408 In Islam polygamy is allowed regardless if the wives could beard children or not but the husband is commanded by Sharia Law to treat his wives equally and he needs the financial capacity to do so. Some Islamic cultures stipulate the husband needs the permission of the first wife for him to another. ( It eases up the first wife if there is a younger wife to assist with daily chores and having him off your back!) 😂😆
@Christos Kyrios Islam is the most misinterpreted and misjudged faith in this century. It is particularly imperative that people should know Islam as to what it really is and not be blinded by ignorance and bias. An aspect of Islam that has been grossly misunderstood is the marriage of Muhammad, where critics claim he married a minor. But it is a blatantly false slander, because the woman in question, Aisha, an Arabic poet and army general, was nineteen years old at the time of marriage with Muhammad. (In Arabic, like old English, nineteen, or eighteen, is shortened to the first word, as in nine or eight- the way we wrote one-and-twenty to mean twenty-one years). When Islam came in the world, it nullified and negated the practice of female oppression, which included slavery and child marriage. The age of Aisha to be six years or nine years at marriage contradicts established historical proofs and is, therefore, a discrepant report and a mistake. Scholars have mentioned that when a ḥadīth’s text contradicts something more reliable from established history then it is rejected because that indicates a flaw due to a mistake by one of the narrators. Islam was the first religion to name every man and woman equal in the sight of God. Everyone was born free and had choices they could make on their own accord.
I was one who believed in the Bible but lacked knowledge until I started watching Ahmed Deedat's debates. Now I not only know how to defend the diety of JESUS CHRIST but attack Muslims with their own Qur'an and Hadiths which I never knew about before watching Deedat.
Well, Ahmed Deedat is doing dawah. Dawah means proselytizing to spread Islam. Deedat is an Islamic evangelist. He aims to convert Christians by having debates with Christians. He is a spreading Islam primarily by attacking Christianity and sowing doubt in Christians' mind. People who are not well versed in Christian apologetics and the flaws of Islam SHOULD NOT WATCH DEEDAT. Christians should watch Christian apologist who are debunking Islam - NOT watching Muslims like Deedat who are trying to con Christians into converting. Some Muslims are very deceptive, sly and disingenuous in the way they try to spread Islam. Sometimes pretending to be Christians. Deception is part of Islam. After all the Quran says that Allah is the best deceiver. ....so Christians should be very careful.
Good luck. What’s the difference in someone who believes a Jewish man named Jesus is part god, part man versus a Greek who believes Hercules is part god, part man or a Viking who believes Thor is part god, part man?
I'm not religious but I never understood how asking questions about your religion is "forbidden". It's only human to seek knowledge... And is religion not seeking knowledge in a higher power? Thus no questions should be forbidden
@Christos Kyrios nope. The plural title Elohim does not equate that there are multiple gods. The Trinity of God is one. Three persons in one body. Not three separate "gods". They are equal in essence. Like a semi frozen river: running water, upon the top of the running water is some frozen ice, and rising from the water and ice, the fog/mist. All one, all of the same molecular makeup, not separate. God the Father, God the Son (The Word) God the Holy Spirit. St. Patrick used the 3 leaf clover to explain about the oneness of God. Three identical leaves in one plant. Not separate. I go a little further with this, in that when I see the stem attached to the earth and the plant (three leaf clover) the stem is the human (resurrected) body of Jesus now, the bridge between heaven and earth: still part of the oneness of God, never separated.
@@c.Ichthys You committed many heresies by comparing the Trinity to material substances. It’s impossible to compare. Let’s say you have 3 pieces of gold. 2 of those pieces posses together all attributes twice as much the other piece of gold. In the trinity this is not so. The Father and Holy Spirit are not more powerful than the Son, The Son and Holy Spirit are not more powerful than the Father alone etc. If you tear the 3 leaf clover 2/3th, that part will have twice as much of all attributes to the 1/3th part, the Trinity doesn’t consist of parts. The river example is modalism. Water takes different forms, just like the sabellianists say the Father took the form of the Son but they are the same. Don’t compare the Trinity to material bodies pls
@@nonpossenonpeccare9104 No. You don't understand language. You need to first understand language before you can correct others. A comparison is intended to show only some attributes not all. Classic mistake.
@@PaulDo22 No, you make the mistake. There is NO comparison whatsoever between the Trinity and material substances, not even “some attributes”. So you need to understand what I say before you can correct me
💗John 3:16💗 The TRUTH! Dino, your acceptance or rejection of God's FREE Gift of Eternal Life Paid for in FULL by His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ determines where you will spend All of Eternity. Once you take your last breath here on earth your eternal character is set. Now is the time to accept Jesus Christ as your Savior! There is no other way to stand Innocent before God but to be Dressed in His Own Righteousness! That is Exactly what Jesus Christ Gives you the instant you BELIEVE on Him! You can do nothing to deserve or earn or keep your Salvation! It's All Jesus! A Gift can only be Freely received or refused. Dino, God LOVES you Fiercely and Passionately! He did Everything necessary to save you Forever! Please Pray to Jesus now! Admit you are a sinner in need of a Savior (we All are!) And Believe in Jesus's Finished Work on the Cross for All your sins, past, present, and future. Every single Drop of His Precious Blood was for you! To Wash you White as Snow! Jesus Christ Paid a debt He did not owe because you owed a debt you could not pay. This is LOVE! 😀💗😀
One of the problems I see the most it is that people don't understand the concept of time, and that the Divine dimension doesn't have time on it, so when you tell people that Jesus always existed, they cannot understand, and I know is hard, but the best way to do it, it is imagine Jesus get in and out as in a train, and the stations are the different eras. For example, Moses saw Jesus sandals when he asked God to show Himself, but Jesus was in body too, bit Jesus has not been born yet. But Jesus or any spiritual creation are bound by time, and we as human creatures are, and that it is a big weight on us and shape us in the way we live, but not the spiritual world. Jesus is in body, as Mary, and I think there are two prophets too, Elijah and Enoch who also are in body in Heaven, so some people can bear the spiritual dimension in a physical body, probably because of their purity. I don't know but we believe that we will recover our bodies too, and as Jesus says, " earth and heavens will pass but not my words" and He also says that He will make anything anew, as a new Earth, with the ones who are saved. Catholicism is super interesting and cool, you can never get bored, we have so much to learn and so much to love. We are Christ bares and we should pass Christ light to others, good job Charlie!!!! There's another Muslim who wrote a book about his conversion, an English guy, he was converted by the people of Neri, the Oratory in London, thanks God he found them, because many priests has lost the Faith and they just waste time being " politically correct" and the only purpose of the Church is the salvation of souls and you can't save souls if you lie or sugarcoat facts.
"The Center for the Study of Political Islam" is an excellent resource for non-Muslims who wish to understand the demands that Islam places upon them. There you can find many study versions of the Koran broken up into levels of difficulty, including a Koran in which each chapter has been placed in correct chronological order so that it be more clearly understood.
There is no God, and I can prove it! If every person who believes in god dies tomorrow - only people like me who don't believe in god will be left behind, and therefore nobody will ever pray to God or even remember any of thousands of gods humans invented! Whatever happened to God Marduk of Sumer? Or hundreds and thousands of other gods? Well, they are all forgotten! The same will happen one day to Jesus or so called God father or Jewish God YHWH, etc, etc.
@@alblack9869 God exists I can prove it His philosophy brought humanity from a psychopathic , blood thirsty conquer or be conquered mentality kicking and screaming And instead of a dead Messiah being the start of a middle eastern cult’s downfall , it grew to a worldwide religion that cannot be separated from the very people that wanted it gone People like u have always existed and anytime the world turned to your ideology for help, we regretted it And turned right back to Christ ones we came to our senses Viva Cristo Rey
@alblack9869 That's a weak argument. The instinct to believe in a higher power is innate in all human psyches. Just because the name for God changes depending on time and culture doesn't mean a thing. They are just different names for the same phenomenon.
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Excellent learning in this video. Very logical approach. I also have Muslim friends and have asked them; in Islam, how does justice and mercy meet? God is infinite in all his perfections and there cannot be inconsistency within the person of God. He is both infinitely merciful and infinitely just. So when he forgives our sins he is merciful but what about justice. And should he condemn all, which would be entirely just, then what about his mercy. Both must be satisfied. How does God forgive according to the teachings in Islam? The answer was “He just does.” I said in Christianity we understand that Jesus acceptance of death on the cross, repaired the broken covenant and for us this is how justice and mercy meet.
A Turkish Muslim woman is one of my better friends, she is a very good person too, and she is the one explained a lot of their beliefs to me. Now we Catholics know that Mahomet took this ideas from his brother in law who was a Nestorian, that it was a very spread heresy at the time and he took many other ideas and created Muslim faith, and then Islam comes from that, a more radicalized form. So I had almost the same conversation, because with Muslim people is easier to me because they believe in Jesus and in Mary. Now, Jesus died in the Cross as a man, but the thing is He defeat death, but He really died, he didn't have much blood in His system or fluids. Yes, Satan hates Mary, because she is just a creature, but she has been elevated and she is the spouse of the Holy Spirit, the daughter of the Father and the Mother of the Son, her own words. In many parts of the Bible Jesus says He is God, He is the alpha and the omega, and I am who I am, I am him, who knows me, knows the Father, etc
@@thegreatrestoration6784 Mahdi will be a leader to the Muslims prior to Issa (AS) returning Fathima. When Mahdi comes, yes he will oppose dajjal but I know Issa(AS) will kill him.
As a Muslim I always look forward to such videos but man there are issues in his story. I am not a scholar or even close to it but even in my basic knowledge of Islam I see many holes in his story some of them I'll mention down below I am not going to comment on his arguments regarding trinity but I'll say few things about it. First of all prophet Muhammad is not mentioned at all in the first or second page of Quran specially by name. Second sayings of Prophet and Quran are two different things; Muslims don't mix them together like in one book. Third Muslims believe that Quran is direct speech of Allah. Fourth the Muslim you mentioned in the story has to be completely unaware of the basics of Islam. In my personal observation Muslims who are practicing and preaching are more aware of basics of Islam then mentioned in the story. He appears to be a Muslim born in a Muslim family and then never practiced his religion. There are many Muslim like that even in Muslim countries. There are many things that I can say that is false in this story like there is no Quran in the Muslim world where chapters arranged differently as implied, In Quran it has been mentioned clearly that even if all of humanity and jins wants to go against God then it would not affect the majesty of God. And no where in Quran it is said that Jesus was saved on crucifix but instead it is mentioned that he was not killed and was not crucified. As a Muslim I see lack of basic knowledge of Islam from the story teller. I see in comment section that many Christian brothers and sisters are satisfied the trinity explanation in this video. To that I have few things to say. There are few basic believes that we all Muslims have to believe if we want to get in to the paradise. These believes are so basic and so plainly mentioned Quran multiple time that almost no two Muslims differ in those believes because they are fundamental, and repeated many times without any open to interpretation and explanation. In Christianity fundamental believes such as trinity is not explicitly mentioned or explained over and over again instead there are few passages of bible that Christians take it as a hint for trinity then in response Muslims say that there are other passages of bible that says otherwise. I am just shock that Christians can just accept trinity without questioning its logical sense. My intention is not to hurt anyone here I was genuinely intrigued by the title of the video but found many errors and falsehood in the story which lead me to leave this comment.
God doesn't need anything, and my understanding, as a Muslim, has always been that Jesus was not on the cross and that God spared him from death. Jesus will come back again. I don't doubt a word that Charbel said on tbe show regarding his experience though. Love watching this channel as a Muslim ❤ May peace be with you.
I have been asking the same question for over a decade show me one verse in Quran that shows an example of Love towards a disbeliever. When they can't give me one they show me a verse of violence and they say that's the mercy/ love
Here you go my brother... HOLY QURAN 7:156... 'My mercy encompasses all things' 4:90...... 'So if they remove themselves from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not made for you a cause [for fighting] against them.' 25:63... And the servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk upon the earth easily, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace. 60:8.... 'Allah does not forbid you from dealing kindly and fairly with those who have neither fought nor driven you out of your homes. Surely Allah loves those who are fair.'
I think he means in the Muslim culture one of Allah’s many names is love. That’s doesn’t mean he IS love that just means that’s what he is named in their culture.
Al-Wadud (Most Loving). It refers to the manifestation of love. "And ask forgiveness of your Lord and then repent to Him. Indeed, my Lord is Merciful and most Loving."(11:90) "And He is the Forgiving, the most Loving" (85:14)
But your god says we were made to love him and if we dont he is going to torture us for eternity and blame us for making him torture us. Ever heard of an abusive relationship? Fitting that you call your church the bride of Christ because your god behaves like a wife beater.
The Christian and the Muslim were talking and the Muslim said, We know where our prophet is buried and you don’t know where yours is buried. The Christian said, Well, there’s quite a difference, Ours is risen, and yours is still in the ground!
“I was a hidden treasure and I wanted to be known so I created man and resided in his heart so that he might find me.” - Allah (Sufi Traditional saying)
I only heard it till 4.26 & found several fallacies & contestable claims he makes. 1. In the hebrew, it's the verb which proves whether the subject is singular or plural, a subtle but very significant difference when we compare it with/to English. Had the hebrew Bible spoken of three in one concept, the verb in the first verse would have been veyomeru instead of veyomer. So, his inferring for making the case for trinity is grammatically flawed to begin with. 2. The Quran doesn't have Muhammed, on whom be peace, as one opens the first chapter. His claim is absolutely wrong there too. & 3. He is right Quran isn't structured as one finds other religious scriptures, however, it actually is in favour of Quran rather than against it's veracity. For instance, the Bible & the Quran both speak of Satan. The Bible claims that satan was a fallen angel & the Quran says satan was one of the jinns, just another creation of God we Muslims believe in. The interesting part here is that the Quran uses the title satan once he had disobeyed God & there was a phase when he wasn't called one. So, this act of disobedience is the demarcation between what he must have been called prior to the incident. The Quran uses the word "Iblis" for that phase & satan post the disobedience. Readers must bear in mind that the Quran was revealed over the span of 23 yrs & as "without chronology" As it is, as the speaker in the video implied, it's very difficult for a person not to use both the words interchangeably, if not impossible. Yet, each time Quran speaks of the phase prior to disobedience to God, the word Iblis is mentioned, & each time the phase post disobedience is mentioned/spoken of, the word shaytaan is used. It's also telling to note that to believe satan as jinn is much more logical than to accept him as an angel. The Islamic belief is that angels don't have free will as does other creation of God. Hence, Iblis made a choice to disobey God & turned into satan whereas the Bible calls him fallen angel. The natural question arises is; if even the angels have free will, then what was the point of creating mankind? If angels can disobey God then what's the guarantee that other angels such as Gabriel, Michael etc won't ever do so? Would angels be judged by God on the day of judgemnt as mankind will be? 4. Lastly, the attribute he touched upon was nothing but begging the question fallacy. I can be loving without having the need of someone else. Besides, the fact that the idea of one "needs" someone else to prove you are love Or loving is detrimental to Christianity since either those three Christians call One God were self loving, something the speaker illogically accused to be, or they are not One God as much as you need someone ELSE to love. Salaam!
You are more wrong than he is. Sorry. I'd suggest researching the pre-Muslim pagan religions and you can see exactly how and where Muhammed crafted his beliefs. If you match his outreach to the various Arab tribes you can literally see how his teachings change to include their beliefs, changing it subtley. He even praised a set of tribal gods at one point and adopted others as messengers for Allah to appease the religious leaders of those tribes. I will give you the Trinity thing. That was added later and forced to fit because it better fit into European mythologies, particularly that of Rome with their worship of Sol.
@@TheLastKentuckyIrregular9524 you are making claims that masters of pre islamic graffitos and glyphs dont make because of a paucity of info on their beliefs. With that aside- Islam is clearly closer to Judaism than pre islamic lower arabian paganism. You are just incorrect and likely lying while aware, I mean to correct you for the other readers. Not interested in a debate with someone who lies.
@@truthspeaker8841 You debate by offering zero refutation and only make assertions? Everything I said was true. Everything you said was not. Muhammed literally altered his so-called prophecies to fit the beliefs of the Arab pagans. Muhammed himself admitted to doing so (he claimed later that Satan made him do it but only after his own believers began pushing back in his addition of two pagan goddesses to his teachings). That isn't my opinion, it is fact and it is in the Koran. Satan speaks in lies and calls them truths. You speak no truths but only lies.
Thank you! an actual muslim in the comments! This guys lack of basic knowledge shows he either never was muslim, or he was just muslim by name and never learned.
@@sultanalmarzooqi9159 Islam taught you that lying is okay. Your prophet was caught many times lying...muhammad lied and that's why allah killed him with poison by cutting his aorta.
There was no beginning, life is designed to separate good Souls from bad. Perhaps the greatest gift is to know why we forget. How wonderful, life is designed to pass wisdom. ✨️ Wisdom is endless.....as we are ....as God. How else could one live forever unless. I pray and hope to see clearly...... even for a moment in time .
Clearly doesn't understand Islam - God does not need us to worship him - Either he lied or his Muslim friend is extremely ignorant. Never heard a Muslim ever say God needs us. Also God is outside of time. Please come up with better arguments
The issue is that no Muslim will ever give you a consistent explanation of their beliefs. They always give contradictory answers because their inherent religious epistemology is flawed from the start.
@@SweetChilly0410 Why do we need to watch Hijab's videos? To understand the real Quran read it without the hadiths. Do not let anyone else interpret it for you.
@@madchemist199 So why does he demand constant praise or even believing in him. Why would he create hell just so he could eternally torture sinners, most of whom are there just for not believing. My disbelief obviously offends Allah for some reason(and he knew ahead of time when he created me that I would be a nonbeliever and find his so-called messenger evil and abhorrent).
But believe quoran that said Allah created with his spirit to Jesus (Isa) and believe allah will put christians and jew under punishment in order to salve muslims...why a sinner can salve a sinner for all sins he or she made? But a sinless man cant salve sinners as us? For me is better if a sinless person save me to a sinner!!!
I loved his explanation of the Trinity. To me the trinity is God in 3 forms but is 1. 3 ways of communicating to use on earth, God the father, God the son (Jesus), and God the holy spirit.
@@thanthenpolice The problem is, you think in 1 dimension. You are like a flat sheet of A4 paper. He did not change. God, said, 'in the beginning.' This word is the Barasheet, to you it's a word, to Christians it is DNA. Like all Muslims, the spirit cannot enters your 1 dimension world; a world filled with 'myths and fables' has not place for God's NUN to be planted.
@@batteleyyachtlife9957 wow very confusing..how are u going to explain the concepts to a little child or not a very smart person..why don't just god introduce Himself as one without beating around the bush.simple..God is not a god of confusion
@@thanthenpolice It is Wow! Muslims claim to have deep understanding of God. Yet you limit the most wonderful experience gifted to a human, by placing your relationship with God in a box. Jesus, did not rape children, nor has he forced muslims to follow him. He, Jesus shows Himself to those whose hearts are pure and seeks to know God. You are happy with Allah, you are happy to know your family will suffer in hell. I
What Catholicism truly misses is it’s Jewish background. There is no need for a trinity to win a Muslim. You can make a Muslim Catholic with these arguments, but the Trinity is such an anachronistic category, biblically speaking. It’s a Greek way of “apprehending” God that neither Jesus or His Jewish Apostles would’ve been using as a method of thinking. An amazing book regarding the Jewish backgrounds of Catholicism is “Searching Her Own Mystery” by Mark Kinzer. Worth a read for anyone who’d like to understand the sacraments.
@@Crusader33adislam started since Adam (as) Yes he was illiterate further proving he cldnt have written the quran instead it was all revealed by god and retold by the prophet Muhammad saw
I think the argument was not explained fully about God being “Love” through all eternity and therefore requiring an object of His love. As I understand it the minimum community has to be three (as they say “two’s company and three’s a crowd” but in actual fact two is too introspective and three is a functional society)
💗John 3:16💗 The TRUTH! Your acceptance or rejection of God's FREE Gift of Eternal Life Paid for in FULL by His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ determines where you will spend All of Eternity. Once you take your last breath here on earth your eternal character is set. Now is the time to accept Jesus Christ as your Savior! There is no other way to stand Innocent before God but to be Dressed in His Own Righteousness! That is Exactly what Jesus Christ Gives you the instant you BELIEVE on Him! You can do nothing to deserve or earn or keep your Salvation! It's All Jesus! A Gift can only be Freely received or refused. God LOVES you Fiercely and Passionately! He did Everything necessary to save you Forever! Please Pray to Jesus now! Admit you are a sinner in need of a Savior (we All are!) And Believe in Jesus's Finished Work on the Cross for All your sins, past, present, and future. Every single Drop of His Precious Blood was for you! To Wash you White as Snow! Jesus Christ Paid a debt He did not owe because you owed a debt you could not pay. This is LOVE! 😀💗😀
I have to say that going to public school with Muslim friends helped show me what faith and dedication is. I was lukewarm and was also a “checkbox” Catholic, but seeing how much my Muslim friends loved their faith and was so knowledgeable (it seemed) made me search about my own. I think if I went to Catholic school, I would have been surrounded by lukewarm souls and never would have been pushed to study my own faith. Or perhaps God will always find his way to me. No one can tell. Just so blessed to be Roman Catholic 😊
bro i went to a roman catholic school and i think nearly everyone had an atheist or non-Catholic mindset. Thinking back the only thing i learned about church history from that school was the reformation and terrific it was. I wouldn't take it back though as being surrounded by atheists kinda lead me to doubt, which lead me to look into my faith, which lead to my it being strengthened. It also helped me to be a bit more skeptical and reasonable. So i guess non-Catholics have a thing for helping us out huh.
Yep I'm a former Muslim and as a religion they are very confident but I promise you the vast majority of Muslims know very little about their religion. Once I was challenged I went into a deep dive and about 6 months in it was evident Muhammad was a false prophet, I was quite devastated. I thought if Islam wasn't true then nothing is. I became an "atheist." I never in a million years thought I'd be Christian, especially catholic, but one day I had an experience with Jesus. I did the same thing with Islam, I went on a deep dive. 6 months later I continued, 6 months after that I began to attend catholic mass, not really knowing how to behave, 6 months after that I knew catholicism was the only religion in earth founded by God. Im happy to say after about 2-2½ years of self study in finally a few months into studying at a church and look forward to being baptized and taking the eucharist. Still have quite a few months left of study.
I wish you cared if what you believed was true or not.
@@pajamaninja2157I wish you cared about whether your cult beliefs were real or not. They're not.
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Great conversation this is pure gold and it makes me happy that I have returned to the greatest church in the world and that’s the Holy Catholic Church all Glory belongs to God in Jesus name
Christ is King.
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Catholic church clergy who for many years, raped children. Shame on you all you cunts.
Hey cesar I have a question, if I'm on my death bed I have 2 minutes to live what must I do to go to heaven?
@@troymomma You need to give all your money to the church that I was born into and cut off all your other dependents. Ignore all the other 30000 religions, as mine is the one and only true one that is right. If you do that then you will get a great reward in heaven. You might even get to have sex with 70 odd virgins (don't worry they don't get a say in this deal) and you will sit by the right hand of god (he's right handed). oh best repent your sins too including all that stuff you did when you was on your own, you know what I mean you bad boy cos apparently he really hates that type of thing
For all the theological formation I had, I had no way of explaining the mystery of the Trinity to a Muslim friend clearer than how you did it. A million thanks for this.
it is because the trinity in itself is nonsinsical. nobody understands it . christians only accept it and some of them try to convince themselves that it makes sens.
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Why not?
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Ok!Thank you!
Your example that god has no beginning really is difficult to comprehend.
But even with our limited understanding we can at least see or realise that it has to be that way, because scripture says so, and logic shows nothing else makes sense.
But with trinity it’s different.
Scripture shows it’s wrong. It does not even mention the word, let alone the concept. And in addition common sense or logic proves: no matter how little we are, compared to god - it makes no sense.
And why worship something that makes no sense?
@@matthiasgrimm8180 Because if I worshiped something that made sense, it would not be God. Also the Trinity is mentioned in Matthew 28:19, we just gave it the name.
What if we did worship things that made sense? That would not be worth worshiping. Space, matter, and time exist so whatever made it must be spaceless, timeless, and immaterial and to me that sounds like God.
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Mat 4:10 Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’”
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This is one of the best revelation I have received in a deeper way. 💓 Halleluiah!!
Wow, extremely well explained, your clarity of thought is truly a Gift from the Holy Spirit, stay blessed
YES!
His "clarity of thought" is NOT a gift from any spirit dummy, it's nature, it's life, it's DNA, it's parental influence, it's environmental influence.
Holy spirit?
"THEIST" = "THE" "1ST" in BULLSHIT; THE LAST IN BRAINS.
Nonsense - There is No God!
You sound like you're talking out of my Jesus dogs arse.
@@alblack9869 I do not mind if faith and religion get's you through your life as a believer
but a few questions, Why is the body so badly designed and so flawed that we have huge failures and die even from the earliest age!
Why were we designed to deficate to rid the body of waste?, a truly disgusting process! surely an Almighty and knowing God could have designed a cleaner and better process to do this!
If all the unborn and young children that die and therefore go to Heaven, would not a massive proportion of people who go to heaven be in these categories so what is the point?
As a non catholic... That was the clearest explanation of Mary. Thank you for clarifying this
do protestants really not teach the basics of christianity?
well to be fair it shouldnt be surprising that the anglosphere has ridiculously skewed views of everything including other variants of their own religion.
@@sabin97 I came here to specifically share my respect and gratitude. I have asked numerous Catholics and have gotten not great answers unfortunately on this subject. And unfortunately a majority of Catholics have responded in a condescending tone like you have which always puts me off.
It is unfortunate that you have now contributed to the majority of negative experiences I've unfortunately have had with catholics. I wish I had more positive ones.
I grew up an atheist and converted to Christianity year and a half ago. I'm doing what I can to learn every day. Being condescending to others who haven't been in the faith as long it's not a great way to share truth, especially if your view is the Catholic church holds, "the fullness of truth". Shunning people who are outside of it is not going to help bring em in.
Regardless still a huge fan of this Channel and many other Catholic apologists.
@@sabin97 My Apologies, I thought you were catholic, but based on some of your other comments you seem to just be an atheist who is angry and looking to pick fights.
Not interested. Good luck on your truth quest. Have a lovely day✌
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i'm not an atheist.
and not really "looking for pick fights".
just comenting.
and of course you arent interested in educating yourself.
you even went to protestantism.
the religious movement started by a bunch of rich pieces of sht because their pal got kicked out of the club.
💗John 3:16💗 The TRUTH! Dylon, your acceptance or rejection of God's FREE Gift of Eternal Life Paid for in FULL by His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ determines where you will spend All of Eternity. Once you take your last breath here on earth your eternal character is set. Now is the time to accept Jesus Christ as your Savior! There is no other way to stand Innocent before God but to be Dressed in His Own Righteousness! That is Exactly what Jesus Christ Gives you the instant you BELIEVE on Him! You can do nothing to deserve or earn or keep your Salvation! It's All Jesus! A Gift can only be Freely received or refused. Dylon, God LOVES you Fiercely and Passionately! He did Everything necessary to save you Forever! Please Pray to Jesus now! Admit you are a sinner in need of a Savior (we All are!) And Believe in Jesus's Finished Work on the Cross for All your sins, past, present, and future. Every single Drop of His Precious Blood was for you! To Wash you White as Snow! Jesus Christ Paid a debt He did not owe because you owed a debt you could not pay. This is LOVE! 😀💗😀
Genesis 1:26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness"
Exactly,' us make mankind in our image '. Some argue that this refers to god speaking to angels but that just doesn't stand up as we are not made in the image of angels we are in god.
Yup, the two key words being "us" and "our".
Wow! I am shook to this explanation of the Trinity. Its my first time to hear this and it makes sense
The church can't even agree what this codswallop means and they have been burning people at the stake for 2000 years "discussing" it. Admittedly, they have issued apologies in recent years saying it was naughty to burn people alive for pointing out amongst other things, that the earth goes around the sun.
Churches (and I'm not sure which one of the thousands you identify with but I'm sure yours's is the right one) have no clear idea about what the trinity means. I'd say and here's a mad suggestion, read your books and try and see through your indoctrination from your parents and ask yourself does this make sense? "is it good?" and if you have to pick bits that do make sense but other bits don't and you chose to ignore, ask yourself why don't I just live by what I feel is the right thing to do and I don't need a book. Maybe the book is written hundreds or thousands of years ago by primitive warlords who wanted people to line up and fight for some rich bloke.
Heretical explanation.
So People need to understand if one Muslim cannot answer a question does not mean the answers arent there ... He literally ssid the old testament talks of the trinity based in HIS explanation and you say its a perfect explanation? So moses and those before never thought of it? Only this dude has figured it? He should probably be a prophet then
@@muhammadsherally The Bible verse 1 Corinthians 14:2 in the Catholic Bible discusses the spiritual gift of prophecy, stating, "Above all, strive eagerly for the spiritual gifts, that you may prophesy".
This is me with my two American Protestant friends. For years, they bashed the Catholic Church, citing click bait article lies. As a "check box" Catholic at the time, it didn't really bother me until I started going to Church again. And even tho it didnt offend me, their "half truths" did push me to find the answers. And like this dude, after months of studying I was ready haha
God bless you! Welcome to apologetics.
For me it was dating an agnostic with a Jehovah’s Witness family. Always knew about the JW cult ideology so I was never interested or wondering if they were the truth it just made me research my faith and the history of the church so I could most confidently defend against their anti catholic accusations. Studying apologetics now and discussing Catholic doctrine, my boyfriend is convinced that the Trinity makes more sense rather than what his upbringing taught that Jesus isn’t God. I’m praying the Holy Spirit heals his religious trauma and he sees the truth of what the real Jesus is.
Thank you! I have two close Muslim friends I've prayed rosaries for. This question will be helpful, remember to be kind!
His series and timing of questions are superb. I hope his friend gets enlightened.
The reason the world is in this mess today is that the Church has failed miserably to preach Jesus' all-consuming and unconditional love. What He endured in the Garden alone, (the Agony) surpasses the beatings, scourging, humiliation, the crowning with thorns and the Crucifixion; yet His love for us was infinitely more than all the horrors He endured. He loves us individually and uniquely. Preach this truth instead of the other rubbish that is being preached! I enjoyed the video very much.
but people have to be willing to listen. But people have learn how to evangelise
What about the priesthood authority for the saving ordinances that Jesus stablished like the sacrament and others that were commanded like baptism of water and of the Spirit.
Preaching the truth and preaching about Jesus are a contradiction.
The reason this world is a mess is because of psychopaths.
@MJ I think I've been guilty of straying to the wide path. And I imagine most of us have! But Jesus chose the Narrow path of the cross-and that through him we might find our way back to narrow path he desires us to walk(even never perfectly until our great restoration). Only through Him.
He warns us that without His life and death, we would all be hopeless. Glory be to Him who has given us hope! To me, The scripture has so much more hope and joy than it does " not have a positive message". Don't get me wrong, the message regarding humanity on our own devices is often negative- But the message of God and His Great and Restless Love for us knows no end. And if the Gospels themselves- documenting Christs great sacrifice for us- aren't positive...I'm not sure what is!
It is true what they say... We need to ask the right question. Many of us need to pray about being able to ask the right questions... Like Jesus... Who always left his critics speechless and embarrassed... He always asked the right questions...Thank you for such a revelation... 🌹
He still got the wrong answer
@@mostafaasla3530 who got the wrong ans?
Amazing young man! What a joy to hear him discuss his faith and its growth thank God, praise the Lord.
Excellent discussion and very loving and non-judgmental and full of logical truth. Another question I have asked some if my friends who are of the Islamic faith is;
‘How does God forgive? ‘
How does mercy and justice meet in a being who is infinitely just and infinitely merciful? We both agree that God is infinitely perfect in all His attributes and that none of His perfections can violate any of His other infinite perfections so how do justice and mercy meet in Islam?
How can God forgive sin without violating His infinite justice? How can He be infinitely merciful and yet there be no forgiveness because of His infinite justice. Only in the Cross of Jesus do justice and mercy meet without either being offended. They were unable to answer other than to say God is loving and so he forgives, he just forgives. This discussion on the Mist Holy Trinity was clearer in its logic and perhaps more convincing. Beautiful! Thank you both.
if you forgive a crime that was done against you, you are not unjust. killing an inocent for the crime of a criminal however is unjust no matter how you try to explain it! i sometimes wonder if christians are sincere or if they do it on purpose when they produce nonsinsical arguments about god's justice.
The fact that you are able to breathe despite disbelieving in Allah and violating his commands is enough of a mercy for you. You will then face a reckoning of justice on the Day of Judgement
@@peakhumanchannel so will you.
The simple answer is if you wrong a person or a living being. Then god won't forgive you or punish you until those who you wronged forgive you or get justice.
But God can forgive you if you wrong him as long as you don't do the one mistake of associating god with anything else. That is true justice and true forgiveness
True love = the love of God!
*God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being*
Philippians 2:5-8
i love the way he handled his dilemma and made him see the light..
the way he saw the trinity in genesis and the question about why is jesus is in the cross..
Also the argument that the people crucified Jesus but God wouldn't allow his great prophet to be killed so He substituted him allowing them to be deceived. What's the point in that? So God sneaks around like a liar saving his prophet on the sly and allowing millions to be deceived? That makes no sense. Jesus said (paraphrased) : If God wanted to send an army of angels to protect me, He could.) If God wanted to save His prophet, surely the point would be to do it publicly....do some smiting or something? The public victory came with the resurrection.
no there is nothing in islam that says god won't allow his great prophet to be killed in fact the killing on the cross and the resurection of jesus would have caused no problem to islam theologicaly. the denial of the crucifixion in the curan has left christian readers pretty puzzeled since it is not necessary but it is there!!! for muslims god is just stating facts, as for deception the curan does not blame chrisians for beleiving jesus died on the cross, christians are blamed for how they interpreted that event since even if the crucufition happened this wouldn't justify christian theology. and millions were not deceived since the number of those who saw the crucifixion is not millions and most importantly THE DICIPLES DID NOT WITNESS CRUCIFIXION and i remind you that those who wanted jesus crucified did not know how he looked like and needed juds to kiss him!!!! the substitution might not be the magical operation many think it is it can simply mean that they did not now what he looked like and they crucified someone else a voluntary substitute for example, i mean wouldnt peter accepte to die in stead of jesus , he absolutely would!!!!
In defeating death Jesus freed all of mankind, man, woman and child.
I’m not religious, but I love your answer. For the same reason, the dismissal of God having a son in the Quran seems arbitrary and unconvincing to me: “God is one, how could he have a son, that’s assigning partners to God”
What if He wanted to have a son? Is He not able to? Are you deciding what He can do? And if He did have a son, what kind of father doesn’t want people to love His son?
A loving father gets joy when his son is praised, even more so than from being praised directly, because his son’s joy is his joy, and the praise implies he’s a good father. And so it would be with God.
@@Alex-mv3ht Indeed. Even the understanding of "son" isn't how they think. It means God incarnate. "In the beginning was the Word.......and the Word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us". God is infinite (and as we understand it, the Trinity). And the idea is, man could never make up for his sins by himself so God incarnate took the punishment for all the sins on Himself. That's love. It's like a father taking the death penalty to save his son. It's like all religions are man looking for God....Christianity is God came looking for man...His creation....to save it.
You can also ask why did God deceive humans to believe in multiple religions? Why did God create Satan?? Why do we have hellfire? This world is full of deceptions so that question doesn't make sense
This is most useful, actual conversations with non-believers! Thank you!
Muslims are believers, just a different crock.
Well, I had a conversation with and actual non-believer: someone that actively rejected the One God. It was hard and unproductive.
@@marcondespaulo You never know when a seed has been planted! 😊
@@maxinevandate6366 praised be our Lord!
At least I came changed from that encounter.
I’m saving this segment. Beautiful
Thank you for this, the Trinity just clicked to me when you explain God as loving. Glory be to God!!!!
Excellent discussion.
Thank you for that, it is EXACTLY what I needed at this time! Praise God!
I have been grappling with this for awhile now because I too saw a glimpse of the Trinity in the first three verses of Genesis as well. Great to see I’m not the only one that this speaks too.
The Church Fathers also read Genesis 1 this way, this is not an innovation :)
@@Telorchid Thats great. I’ve read up on a lot of the church fathers. Haven’t come across it yet. Thanks.
💗John 3:16💗 The TRUTH! Frank, your acceptance or rejection of God's FREE Gift of Eternal Life Paid for in FULL by His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ determines where you will spend All of Eternity. Once you take your last breath here on earth your eternal character is set. Now is the time to accept Jesus Christ as your Savior! There is no other way to stand Innocent before God but to be Dressed in His Own Righteousness! That is Exactly what Jesus Christ Gives you the instant you BELIEVE on Him! You can do nothing to deserve or earn or keep your Salvation! It's All Jesus! A Gift can only be Freely received or refused. Frank, God LOVES you Fiercely and Passionately! He did Everything necessary to save you Forever! Please Pray to Jesus now! Admit you are a sinner in need of a Savior (we All are!) And Believe in Jesus's Finished Work on the Cross for All your sins, past, present, and future. Every single Drop of His Precious Blood was for you! To Wash you White as Snow! Jesus Christ Paid a debt He did not owe because you owed a debt you could not pay. This is LOVE! 😀💗😀
@@user-uh6vy4mo3j Thanks for your concern.
Great talk. What a beautiful discussion.
This brought tears to my eyes. Simply beautiful
Wow! I love this! It was beautiful. I will share this with my spiritual children. Thanks and praise be to God!
Wow amazing witness and questioning and understanding of theology. I feel so grateful to have been able to hear this discussion. God bless 🙏❤️
As x Muslim this good man gives me hope for my Muslim brothers and sisters to seek the truth.
Thank you and God bless
Do you believe that god contradicts him self?
This kind of conversation needs to take place more often.
@@davidlillecrapp2960 it does, where have you been living under a rock. The Bible is full of contradictions and this guy sitting there acting as if hes an ex muslim 😂 how funny is that
@@mahak492 oh yes I forgot that all humans are born Muslim; most have just turned away from Islam (that's what you think, right?).
Islam swims in sin.
@@davidlillecrapp2960 prove that Islam swims in sin..
I have enjoyed some of your "pints"
but generally they are so full of banter and waffle that I just don't feel I have to time to watch the whole thing. This one was neatly edited and quickly expressed by your very knowledgeable guest and thank you for not interrupting too much and for bring us this shortened version. Appreciated.
Thank you so much! Before watching this I was a muslim, but now you have opened my eyes and actually gave me more faith in Islam. Here are some verses that answer your question you asked about God needing us:
"O humanity! It is you who stand in need of Allah, but Allah ˹alone˺ is the Self-Sufficient, Praiseworthy." 35:15.
Another verse:
"I did not create jinn and humans except to worship Me. I seek no provision from them, nor do I need them to feed Me." 51:56-57
that answered absolutely nothing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡
Didn’t Muhammad marry Aisha when she was six?
Great story. Your willingness to talk to your friend honestly is witness in itself.
I LOVEEEEEEEE THIS CHAT !! Well done fellas
I needed this video today. Over the past couple weeks I slowly started going down the Islam rabbit hole. I needed answers like this that actually makes sense. I pray this video comes up in everybody’s feed when searching for answers.
I wish I could give this 1000 likes. What an incredibly interesting discussion!
So so good! Love this logic and respectful reasoning. Sharing the truth effectively and most importantly in love. God bless 🙏
Loved it makes me feel part of a greater thing, to long have we been the whipping Boys of the religious world ✝✝🙏
Beautiful explanation of the Trinity and Our Lady.
That explanation comes from the medieval scholastics
Priase God for your Witness Brother, you have helped me so much Charbel Raish.
God bless you abundantly brother. Wonderful discussion.
This man is brilliant.
UA-cam, where is the I LOVE THIS button? God bless you Charbel and Matt! ❤🙏🏻
David Wood’s work is pretty good at exposing faults. I often say I respect that they worship one God, but there’s a lot of things that just seem wrong. Like, for example, the Quran allows divorce. It gives divorce rights primarily to men. However, it gives a waiting period, or an Iddah in case of pregnancy for divorce. And the Quran says there is no Iddah if there is no sex. However, it also gives certain waiting periods for those who are too old to menstruate and even for those who have not menstruated I.e, prepubescent girls. Muhammad himself married his wife Aisha when she was six (I think), waited presumably because she was sick, and then consummated the “Marriage”, when she was nine and still prepubescent bc the Hadiths say she was playing with dolls, which is an image, so it was was only allowed for those who had not yet reached puberty. They also say she was on a swing playing w her friends when they brought her to Muhammad, which I’m pretty sure also means she was prepubescent.
2. (So essentially the Quran allows Muslim men to marry, have sex with, and divorce, girls who have not yet reached puberty. Some more things that seem wrong is that Islamic theology divides the world into two places, the Abode of Islam, and the Abode of War. And the Quran commands Muslims to conquer and subject the whole world and to fight against the nonbelievers
@Christos Kyrios many make that mistake on polygamy, it was only allowed if the wife could not or no longer bear children.
If anyone's interested in the Muslim sources of what was said here they are:
Surah 65:4 waiting period for prepubescent wife
Sahih Al-bukhari 5133 Mohammed married Aisha at 6 and had sex with her at 9
Sahih Al-bukhari 6130 Aisha prepubescent playing with dolls
@@stevendoty9408 In Islam polygamy is allowed regardless if the wives could beard children or not but the husband is commanded by Sharia Law to treat his wives equally and he needs the financial capacity to do so. Some Islamic cultures stipulate the husband needs the permission of the first wife for him to another. ( It eases up the first wife if there is a younger wife to assist with daily chores and having him off your back!) 😂😆
@Christos Kyrios Islam is the most misinterpreted and misjudged faith in this century. It is particularly imperative that people should know Islam as to what it really is and not be blinded by ignorance and bias.
An aspect of Islam that has been grossly misunderstood is the marriage of Muhammad, where critics claim he married a minor. But it is a blatantly false slander, because the woman in question, Aisha, an Arabic poet and army general, was nineteen years old at the time of marriage with Muhammad. (In Arabic, like old English, nineteen, or eighteen, is shortened to the first word, as in nine or eight- the way we wrote one-and-twenty to mean twenty-one years).
When Islam came in the world, it nullified and negated the practice of female oppression, which included slavery and child marriage. The age of Aisha to be six years or nine years at marriage contradicts established historical proofs and is, therefore, a discrepant report and a mistake.
Scholars have mentioned that when a ḥadīth’s text contradicts something more reliable from established history then it is rejected because that indicates a flaw due to a mistake by one of the narrators. Islam was the first religion to name every man and woman equal in the sight of God. Everyone was born free and had choices they could make on their own accord.
Thanks!
I was one who believed in the Bible but lacked knowledge until I started watching Ahmed Deedat's debates. Now I not only know how to defend the diety of JESUS CHRIST but attack Muslims with their own Qur'an and Hadiths which I never knew about before watching Deedat.
Well, Ahmed Deedat is doing dawah. Dawah means proselytizing to spread Islam.
Deedat is an Islamic evangelist.
He aims to convert Christians by having debates with Christians.
He is a spreading Islam primarily by attacking Christianity and sowing doubt in Christians' mind.
People who are not well versed in Christian apologetics and the flaws of Islam SHOULD NOT WATCH DEEDAT.
Christians should watch Christian apologist who are debunking Islam - NOT watching Muslims like Deedat who are trying to con Christians into converting.
Some Muslims are very deceptive, sly and disingenuous in the way they try to spread Islam. Sometimes pretending to be Christians. Deception is part of Islam.
After all the Quran says that Allah is the best deceiver.
....so Christians should be very careful.
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Good luck. What’s the difference in someone who believes a Jewish man named Jesus is part god, part man versus a Greek who believes Hercules is part god, part man or a Viking who believes Thor is part god, part man?
I started watching Christian Prince channel/the Arabian prophet and i realized all the Muslim sheikhs are just bunch of cowards.
@@fakoliefilms Another 1 Dimension person.
Thank you, thank you. This conversation was life-changing.
I'm not religious but I never understood how asking questions about your religion is "forbidden". It's only human to seek knowledge... And is religion not seeking knowledge in a higher power? Thus no questions should be forbidden
I fully agree. I am religious but anytime any organization starts to limit questions is a good time to get out.
Indeed
Jesus Christ always answered questions
No sin in asking questions
It's the only way that Islamists can defend their weak theology.
Excellent! That they could discuss with out getting emotional. And Christianity winning at every point.
Truly said. In the Bible it says: In the beginning. But not in Koran...which always reads...We and We which us the 3rd person..
@Christos Kyrios Then Islam is right too...Elohim and We..and Islam is truer than Christianity..??
@Christos Kyrios nope. The plural title Elohim does not equate that there are multiple gods. The Trinity of God is one. Three persons in one body. Not three separate "gods". They are equal in essence.
Like a semi frozen river: running water, upon the top of the running water is some frozen ice, and rising from the water and ice, the fog/mist. All one, all of the same molecular makeup, not separate.
God the Father,
God the Son (The Word)
God the Holy Spirit.
St. Patrick used the 3 leaf clover to explain about the oneness of God. Three identical leaves in one plant. Not separate.
I go a little further with this, in that when I see the stem attached to the earth and the plant (three leaf clover) the stem is the human (resurrected) body of Jesus now, the bridge between heaven and earth: still part of the oneness of God, never separated.
@@c.Ichthys You committed many heresies by comparing the Trinity to material substances. It’s impossible to compare. Let’s say you have 3 pieces of gold. 2 of those pieces posses together all attributes twice as much the other piece of gold. In the trinity this is not so. The Father and Holy Spirit are not more powerful than the Son, The Son and Holy Spirit are not more powerful than the Father alone etc. If you tear the 3 leaf clover 2/3th, that part will have twice as much of all attributes to the 1/3th part, the Trinity doesn’t consist of parts. The river example is modalism. Water takes different forms, just like the sabellianists say the Father took the form of the Son but they are the same. Don’t compare the Trinity to material bodies pls
@@nonpossenonpeccare9104 No. You don't understand language. You need to first understand language before you can correct others. A comparison is intended to show only some attributes not all. Classic mistake.
@@PaulDo22 No, you make the mistake. There is NO comparison whatsoever between the Trinity and material substances, not even “some attributes”. So you need to understand what I say before you can correct me
I love your grasp of the Holy Trinity, nature, relationship, statement in the bible and the muslim faith take on them.
As an atheist, I’m grateful to my Christian friends for the same reason.
God Bless you for making your presence known to us. Wish you the best.
Very similar as well but I ended up on the other side of the spectrum.
LOL
my Atheist friends made me Christian
💗John 3:16💗 The TRUTH! Dino, your acceptance or rejection of God's FREE Gift of Eternal Life Paid for in FULL by His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ determines where you will spend All of Eternity. Once you take your last breath here on earth your eternal character is set. Now is the time to accept Jesus Christ as your Savior! There is no other way to stand Innocent before God but to be Dressed in His Own Righteousness! That is Exactly what Jesus Christ Gives you the instant you BELIEVE on Him! You can do nothing to deserve or earn or keep your Salvation! It's All Jesus! A Gift can only be Freely received or refused. Dino, God LOVES you Fiercely and Passionately! He did Everything necessary to save you Forever! Please Pray to Jesus now! Admit you are a sinner in need of a Savior (we All are!) And Believe in Jesus's Finished Work on the Cross for All your sins, past, present, and future. Every single Drop of His Precious Blood was for you! To Wash you White as Snow! Jesus Christ Paid a debt He did not owe because you owed a debt you could not pay. This is LOVE! 😀💗😀
Stellar interview!!!
Good makes evil good for us..!! 🔥🔥
I would never choose this video, but it was FANTASTIC. Wow...
Jesus said I and the father are one.
1=1=2
And the Quran says it's a perfect book, dictated by god. So how do you know that your book is the one that's correct? I say neither is correct.
Yes, one as in the same being.
@@kevinkelly2162 "Before the Abraham was, I am"
@@acTioNFLp he is the essence, describing God as a being than the essence of being is blasphemous amoung all Abrahamic faiths.
That gave me the chills listening to the point about the Trinity in Genesis!
The trinity is all over the old testament it really is.
One of the problems I see the most it is that people don't understand the concept of time, and that the Divine dimension doesn't have time on it, so when you tell people that Jesus always existed, they cannot understand, and I know is hard, but the best way to do it, it is imagine Jesus get in and out as in a train, and the stations are the different eras. For example, Moses saw Jesus sandals when he asked God to show Himself, but Jesus was in body too, bit Jesus has not been born yet. But Jesus or any spiritual creation are bound by time, and we as human creatures are, and that it is a big weight on us and shape us in the way we live, but not the spiritual world. Jesus is in body, as Mary, and I think there are two prophets too, Elijah and Enoch who also are in body in Heaven, so some people can bear the spiritual dimension in a physical body, probably because of their purity. I don't know but we believe that we will recover our bodies too, and as Jesus says, " earth and heavens will pass but not my words" and He also says that He will make anything anew, as a new Earth, with the ones who are saved. Catholicism is super interesting and cool, you can never get bored, we have so much to learn and so much to love. We are Christ bares and we should pass Christ light to others, good job Charlie!!!! There's another Muslim who wrote a book about his conversion, an English guy, he was converted by the people of Neri, the Oratory in London, thanks God he found them, because many priests has lost the Faith and they just waste time being " politically correct" and the only purpose of the Church is the salvation of souls and you can't save souls if you lie or sugarcoat facts.
this is the most beautifull interpretation of genesis i've ever heard
I’m shocked that people found his answer logical!
😂😂
❤ just relisten to this. amazing what a year in study teaches you.
"The Center for the Study of Political Islam" is an excellent resource for non-Muslims who wish to understand the demands that Islam places upon them. There you can find many study versions of the Koran broken up into levels of difficulty, including a Koran in which each chapter has been placed in correct chronological order so that it be more clearly understood.
There is no God, and I can prove it! If every person who believes in god dies tomorrow - only people like me who don't believe in god will be left behind, and therefore nobody will ever pray to God or even remember any of thousands of gods humans invented! Whatever happened to God Marduk of Sumer? Or hundreds and thousands of other gods? Well, they are all forgotten! The same will happen one day to Jesus or so called God father or Jewish God YHWH, etc, etc.
@@alblack9869 God exists
I can prove it
His philosophy brought humanity from a psychopathic , blood thirsty conquer or be conquered mentality kicking and screaming
And instead of a dead Messiah being the start of a middle eastern cult’s downfall , it grew to a worldwide religion that cannot be separated from the very people that wanted it gone
People like u have always existed and anytime the world turned to your ideology for help, we regretted it
And turned right back to Christ ones we came to our senses
Viva Cristo Rey
@alblack9869 That's a weak argument. The instinct to believe in a higher power is innate in all human psyches. Just because the name for God changes depending on time and culture doesn't mean a thing. They are just different names for the same phenomenon.
🙏what an inspiring video. Let’s pray that God will use you brother to convert more Muslim to Christianity🙏🙏🙏
Hi Matt!
In France we have an association called Mission Ismerie that provide welcome for Muslim wanting to convert to catholicism... If you are interested in our mission, wanting to hear testimonies, don't hesitate to contact us
Hello. I have an interest in the subject. Could you please reccomend some good resources
I really enjoyed listening to the young man. Does he have a website address to visit? Thank you for a wonderful video.
Really enjoyed this discussion.
Cool guys. Thank you. Clear, and gently explained.
named after Saint Charbel, I suppose.
Excellent learning in this video. Very logical approach. I also have Muslim friends and have asked them; in Islam, how does justice and mercy meet? God is infinite in all his perfections and there cannot be inconsistency within the person of God. He is both infinitely merciful and infinitely just. So when he forgives our sins he is merciful but what about justice. And should he condemn all, which would be entirely just, then what about his mercy. Both must be satisfied. How does God forgive according to the teachings in Islam? The answer was “He just does.”
I said in Christianity we understand that Jesus acceptance of death on the cross, repaired the broken covenant and for us this is how justice and mercy meet.
A Turkish Muslim woman is one of my better friends, she is a very good person too, and she is the one explained a lot of their beliefs to me. Now we Catholics know that Mahomet took this ideas from his brother in law who was a Nestorian, that it was a very spread heresy at the time and he took many other ideas and created Muslim faith, and then Islam comes from that, a more radicalized form. So I had almost the same conversation, because with Muslim people is easier to me because they believe in Jesus and in Mary. Now, Jesus died in the Cross as a man, but the thing is He defeat death, but He really died, he didn't have much blood in His system or fluids. Yes, Satan hates Mary, because she is just a creature, but she has been elevated and she is the spouse of the Holy Spirit, the daughter of the Father and the Mother of the Son, her own words. In many parts of the Bible Jesus says He is God, He is the alpha and the omega, and I am who I am, I am him, who knows me, knows the Father, etc
This is powerful. Thank you sir.
I wonder did Australians get "tall poppy syndrome" from Ireland.
We have that syndrome here in the UK too.
@@alastairlogan3716 Typical humanity so.
😅😂probably
Wherever it came from, Australia has perfected it. The results are not good for society.
+JMJ+
Wonderful testimony!
Praise be JESUS CHRIST! Another soul is home!
In the end both Muslims and Christians believe that Jesus will return to judge all. Ask the Muslims this... who but God alone has the power to judge?
Muslims do not believe Jesus judges anything. he's a low prophet at best to the Muslims.
Muslims are LOST!
Muslims don't believe Jesus will come back to judge, but rather to kill the antichrist.
@@dudelikeseriously8418 What about the Mahdi?
@@thegreatrestoration6784 Mahdi will be a leader to the Muslims prior to Issa (AS) returning Fathima. When Mahdi comes, yes he will oppose dajjal but I know Issa(AS) will kill him.
Incredible segment !🙏
As a Muslim I always look forward to such videos but man there are issues in his story. I am not a scholar or even close to it but even in my basic knowledge of Islam I see many holes in his story some of them I'll mention down below I am not going to comment on his arguments regarding trinity but I'll say few things about it.
First of all prophet Muhammad is not mentioned at all in the first or second page of Quran specially by name.
Second sayings of Prophet and Quran are two different things; Muslims don't mix them together like in one book.
Third Muslims believe that Quran is direct speech of Allah.
Fourth the Muslim you mentioned in the story has to be completely unaware of the basics of Islam. In my personal observation Muslims who are practicing and preaching are more aware of basics of Islam then mentioned in the story. He appears to be a Muslim born in a Muslim family and then never practiced his religion. There are many Muslim like that even in Muslim countries.
There are many things that I can say that is false in this story like there is no Quran in the Muslim world where chapters arranged differently as implied, In Quran it has been mentioned clearly that even if all of humanity and jins wants to go against God then it would not affect the majesty of God. And no where in Quran it is said that Jesus was saved on crucifix but instead it is mentioned that he was not killed and was not crucified. As a Muslim I see lack of basic knowledge of Islam from the story teller.
I see in comment section that many Christian brothers and sisters are satisfied the trinity explanation in this video. To that I have few things to say. There are few basic believes that we all Muslims have to believe if we want to get in to the paradise. These believes are so basic and so plainly mentioned Quran multiple time that almost no two Muslims differ in those believes because they are fundamental, and repeated many times without any open to interpretation and explanation. In Christianity fundamental believes such as trinity is not explicitly mentioned or explained over and over again instead there are few passages of bible that Christians take it as a hint for trinity then in response Muslims say that there are other passages of bible that says otherwise. I am just shock that Christians can just accept trinity without questioning its logical sense.
My intention is not to hurt anyone here I was genuinely intrigued by the title of the video but found many errors and falsehood in the story which lead me to leave this comment.
Like me too, specially when he said that in the first page it is written that prophet Muhammad peace be upon him is the messenger of God.
Good program; thanks.
My Imaan increased significantly after watching this video lol. I'm now a stronger Muslim.
Did you want us to get mad or something
*weaker slave to Allah.
God doesn't need anything, and my understanding, as a Muslim, has always been that Jesus was not on the cross and that God spared him from death. Jesus will come back again.
I don't doubt a word that Charbel said on tbe show regarding his experience though. Love watching this channel as a Muslim ❤ May peace be with you.
I have been asking the same question for over a decade show me one verse in Quran that shows an example of Love towards a disbeliever. When they can't give me one they show me a verse of violence and they say that's the mercy/ love
Here you go my brother...
HOLY QURAN
7:156... 'My mercy encompasses all things'
4:90...... 'So if they remove themselves from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not made for you a cause [for fighting] against them.'
25:63... And the servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk upon the earth easily, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace.
60:8.... 'Allah does not forbid you from dealing kindly and fairly with those who have neither fought nor driven you out of your homes. Surely Allah loves those who are fair.'
The best guest you have in a long time!
4:10 show me where among the 99's names of Allah is love. The muslim "god" is not a God of love.
I think he means in the Muslim culture one of Allah’s many names is love. That’s doesn’t mean he IS love that just means that’s what he is named in their culture.
Not love itself, but name 47 calls him something like the (most) loving one.
Nor is "Father" one of Allah's 99 names.
Al-Wadud (Most Loving). It refers to the manifestation of love.
"And ask forgiveness of your Lord and then repent to Him. Indeed, my Lord is Merciful and most Loving."(11:90)
"And He is the Forgiving, the most Loving" (85:14)
But your god says we were made to love him and if we dont he is going to torture us for eternity and blame us for making him torture us. Ever heard of an abusive relationship? Fitting that you call your church the bride of Christ because your god behaves like a wife beater.
Matthew 16:15-16: “He said to them, 'But who do you say I am?' Simon Peter replied, 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.'”
The Christian and the Muslim were talking and the Muslim said, We know where our prophet is buried and you don’t know where yours is buried.
The Christian said, Well, there’s quite a difference, Ours is risen, and yours is still in the ground!
“I was a hidden treasure and I wanted to be known so I created man and resided in his heart so that he might find me.” - Allah (Sufi Traditional saying)
I only heard it till 4.26 & found several fallacies & contestable claims he makes.
1. In the hebrew, it's the verb which proves whether the subject is singular or plural, a subtle but very significant difference when we compare it with/to English. Had the hebrew Bible spoken of three in one concept, the verb in the first verse would have been veyomeru instead of veyomer. So, his inferring for making the case for trinity is grammatically flawed to begin with.
2. The Quran doesn't have Muhammed, on whom be peace, as one opens the first chapter. His claim is absolutely wrong there too.
&
3. He is right Quran isn't structured as one finds other religious scriptures, however, it actually is in favour of Quran rather than against it's veracity. For instance, the Bible & the Quran both speak of Satan. The Bible claims that satan was a fallen angel & the Quran says satan was one of the jinns, just another creation of God we Muslims believe in. The interesting part here is that the Quran uses the title satan once he had disobeyed God & there was a phase when he wasn't called one. So, this act of disobedience is the demarcation between what he must have been called prior to the incident. The Quran uses the word "Iblis" for that phase & satan post the disobedience. Readers must bear in mind that the Quran was revealed over the span of 23 yrs & as "without chronology" As it is, as the speaker in the video implied, it's very difficult for a person not to use both the words interchangeably, if not impossible. Yet, each time Quran speaks of the phase prior to disobedience to God, the word Iblis is mentioned, & each time the phase post disobedience is mentioned/spoken of, the word shaytaan is used. It's also telling to note that to believe satan as jinn is much more logical than to accept him as an angel. The Islamic belief is that angels don't have free will as does other creation of God. Hence, Iblis made a choice to disobey God & turned into satan whereas the Bible calls him fallen angel. The natural question arises is; if even the angels have free will, then what was the point of creating mankind? If angels can disobey God then what's the guarantee that other angels such as Gabriel, Michael etc won't ever do so? Would angels be judged by God on the day of judgemnt as mankind will be?
4. Lastly, the attribute he touched upon was nothing but begging the question fallacy. I can be loving without having the need of someone else. Besides, the fact that the idea of one "needs" someone else to prove you are love Or loving is detrimental to Christianity since either those three Christians call One God were self loving, something the speaker illogically accused to be, or they are not One God as much as you need someone ELSE to love.
Salaam!
You are more wrong than he is. Sorry. I'd suggest researching the pre-Muslim pagan religions and you can see exactly how and where Muhammed crafted his beliefs. If you match his outreach to the various Arab tribes you can literally see how his teachings change to include their beliefs, changing it subtley. He even praised a set of tribal gods at one point and adopted others as messengers for Allah to appease the religious leaders of those tribes.
I will give you the Trinity thing. That was added later and forced to fit because it better fit into European mythologies, particularly that of Rome with their worship of Sol.
@@TheLastKentuckyIrregular9524 you are making claims that masters of pre islamic graffitos and glyphs dont make because of a paucity of info on their beliefs. With that aside- Islam is clearly closer to Judaism than pre islamic lower arabian paganism. You are just incorrect and likely lying while aware, I mean to correct you for the other readers. Not interested in a debate with someone who lies.
@@truthspeaker8841 You debate by offering zero refutation and only make assertions? Everything I said was true. Everything you said was not. Muhammed literally altered his so-called prophecies to fit the beliefs of the Arab pagans. Muhammed himself admitted to doing so (he claimed later that Satan made him do it but only after his own believers began pushing back in his addition of two pagan goddesses to his teachings). That isn't my opinion, it is fact and it is in the Koran.
Satan speaks in lies and calls them truths. You speak no truths but only lies.
@@TheLastKentuckyIrregular9524 you are making false assertions and I called you out. Simple as that.
Thank you! an actual muslim in the comments! This guys lack of basic knowledge shows he either never was muslim, or he was just muslim by name and never learned.
Super. Would like to hear more!!
the link is under the title.
I think this guest has brought a lot of erroneous information.
Bring on a Muslim to explain Islam.
Exactly.. i as a muslim must say hes full of lies
@@sultanalmarzooqi9159 Islam taught you that lying is okay. Your prophet was caught many times lying...muhammad lied and that's why allah killed him with poison by cutting his aorta.
@@sultanalmarzooqi9159 the fact that he said not every Quran is in the same order speaks volumes. I feel sorry for these people.
There was no beginning, life is designed to separate good Souls from bad. Perhaps the greatest gift is to know why we forget. How wonderful, life is designed to pass wisdom. ✨️ Wisdom is endless.....as we are ....as God. How else could one live forever unless. I pray and hope to see clearly...... even for a moment in time .
Clearly doesn't understand Islam - God does not need us to worship him - Either he lied or his Muslim friend is extremely ignorant. Never heard a Muslim ever say God needs us. Also God is outside of time. Please come up with better arguments
The issue is that no Muslim will ever give you a consistent explanation of their beliefs. They always give contradictory answers because their inherent religious epistemology is flawed from the start.
@@noelyanes2455 you should watch mohammed hijabs videos... In order to understand
@@SweetChilly0410 Why do we need to watch Hijab's videos?
To understand the real Quran read it without the hadiths.
Do not let anyone else interpret it for you.
@@SweetChilly0410 hijab doesn't really have good arguments if we are honest here
@@madchemist199 So why does he demand constant praise or even believing in him. Why would he create hell just so he could eternally torture sinners, most of whom are there just for not believing. My disbelief obviously offends Allah for some reason(and he knew ahead of time when he created me that I would be a nonbeliever and find his so-called messenger evil and abhorrent).
Thanks, thats a great insight. In Christianity, we are the children of God. In Islam, they are the slaves of God. Which one would you rather be?
So instead you find logic in a book filled with contradictions, adulterations, and with more holes than Swiss cheese 🤣😂...
The guy is utterly delusional. Very basic: an infant can't become the Eternal Creator of the Universe.
@@facetofloor 🎯😊
But believe quoran that said Allah created with his spirit to Jesus (Isa) and believe allah will put christians and jew under punishment in order to salve muslims...why a sinner can salve a sinner for all sins he or she made? But a sinless man cant salve sinners as us? For me is better if a sinless person save me to a sinner!!!
@@conociendoelislam85 In brief: the originated can't become beginningless.
@@facetofloor of course!! Because you said so!!!
Best explanation I have heard so far God Bless
Catholics need to stop placating Muslims and confront their false religion
Really enlightening! Thank you!
I loved his explanation of the Trinity. To me the trinity is God in 3 forms but is 1. 3 ways of communicating to use on earth, God the father, God the son (Jesus), and God the holy spirit.
but God said He never change..how can he transform into any form
@@thanthenpolice The problem is, you think in 1 dimension. You are like a flat sheet of A4 paper.
He did not change. God, said, 'in the beginning.' This word is the Barasheet, to you it's a word, to Christians it is DNA.
Like all Muslims, the spirit cannot enters your 1 dimension world; a world filled with 'myths and fables' has not place for God's NUN to be planted.
@@batteleyyachtlife9957 wow very confusing..how are u going to explain the concepts to a little child or not a very smart person..why don't just god introduce Himself as one without beating around the bush.simple..God is not a god of confusion
@@thanthenpolice It is Wow!
Muslims claim to have deep understanding of God. Yet you limit the most wonderful experience gifted to a human, by placing your relationship with God in a box.
Jesus, did not rape children, nor has he forced muslims to follow him. He, Jesus shows Himself to those whose hearts are pure and seeks to know God.
You are happy with Allah, you are happy to know your family will suffer in hell.
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@@batteleyyachtlife9957 Preaching mode : Activated 😅
What Catholicism truly misses is it’s Jewish background. There is no need for a trinity to win a Muslim. You can make a Muslim Catholic with these arguments, but the Trinity is such an anachronistic category, biblically speaking. It’s a Greek way of “apprehending” God that neither Jesus or His Jewish Apostles would’ve been using as a method of thinking.
An amazing book regarding the Jewish backgrounds of Catholicism is “Searching Her Own Mystery” by Mark Kinzer.
Worth a read for anyone who’d like to understand the sacraments.
Very much enjoyed this video
Allah(SWT) is self sufficient and does not need us he created us out of his mercy and he reveals what he wills
Didn’t Islam start in the 7th century? Wasn’t Muhammad illiterate ?
@@Crusader33adislam started since Adam (as)
Yes he was illiterate further proving he cldnt have written the quran instead it was all revealed by god and retold by the prophet Muhammad saw
Great explanation of the Trinity!!!
We need to pray, well said and stand strong. The Holy Spirit is with you all. Do the will of God. You’ll be in my prayers 🙏🏼🕊️
I think the argument was not explained fully about God being “Love” through all eternity and therefore requiring an object of His love. As I understand it the minimum community has to be three (as they say “two’s company and three’s a crowd” but in actual fact two is too introspective and three is a functional society)
💗John 3:16💗 The TRUTH! Your acceptance or rejection of God's FREE Gift of Eternal Life Paid for in FULL by His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ determines where you will spend All of Eternity. Once you take your last breath here on earth your eternal character is set. Now is the time to accept Jesus Christ as your Savior! There is no other way to stand Innocent before God but to be Dressed in His Own Righteousness! That is Exactly what Jesus Christ Gives you the instant you BELIEVE on Him! You can do nothing to deserve or earn or keep your Salvation! It's All Jesus! A Gift can only be Freely received or refused. God LOVES you Fiercely and Passionately! He did Everything necessary to save you Forever! Please Pray to Jesus now! Admit you are a sinner in need of a Savior (we All are!) And Believe in Jesus's Finished Work on the Cross for All your sins, past, present, and future. Every single Drop of His Precious Blood was for you! To Wash you White as Snow! Jesus Christ Paid a debt He did not owe because you owed a debt you could not pay. This is LOVE! 😀💗😀
Nothing compare to the philosophy of vaishnavism when it comes to love.