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  • Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
  • Has NBA Regular Season passed its peak? While the players are more talented than ever, all teams look to play the same way. How did it happen? In this video, BasketNews' Augustas Suliauskas invites you to a discussion about NBA's Regular Season and how teams have understood how to play the most efficient basketball.. And you might not like it.
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  • @BasketNews_com
    @BasketNews_com  6 місяців тому +85

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    • @FilipGostic
      @FilipGostic 6 місяців тому

      fucked up

    • @fennisdembo34
      @fennisdembo34 6 місяців тому +14

      it depresses me

    • @Flying-Flo
      @Flying-Flo 6 місяців тому +7

      @@fennisdembo34 Impossible to watch indeed. I feel you...

    • @user-vw1vf5cw7d
      @user-vw1vf5cw7d 6 місяців тому +9

      I disagree with many of the things that you said. One of the myths is the current generation of players are more athletic more talented than ever. WRONG. It's easy to seem athletic when there is no defence around you. But the various Bancheros and Wembys wouldn't survive a minute against the Karl Malones, Michael Cages and Rick Mahorns of the past.

    • @coachj618
      @coachj618 6 місяців тому +10

      Refs should at least call illegal screening and travelling...

  • @Kodreanu23
    @Kodreanu23 6 місяців тому +5831

    Remove the defensive 3 seconds rule. There is absolutely no need to have it anymore. It was brought in, in fear of low scores. We got that out of the way.

    • @andreamazzeo4306
      @andreamazzeo4306 6 місяців тому +544

      Good point. Honestly, just look at fiba rules and there are a bunch of good ideas there.

    • @AugustasSuliauskas
      @AugustasSuliauskas 6 місяців тому +328

      I honestly believe that would make the game way more interesting. As well as the number of games. The NBA has enough talent/skill/athleticism to still have 100+ games. And big centers might have a place in the league again

    • @Kodreanu23
      @Kodreanu23 6 місяців тому +61

      @@AugustasSuliauskas Agreed 💯 percent. If there was a concern before that offenses would be boring, they've evolved so much that taking out that rule will not suffocate games too much.
      What would happen if they remove it, I think the power drivers like Giannis and LeBron will be less efficient. So my theory is that they will not take that rule out until Lebron retires, since his shot chart is getting more and more simplified (bunch of layups and occasional three pointer). I can not claim this 100 percent, but let's see.
      P.S. I've posted here youtube link to D'Antoni's interview but it got deleted, I don't know why.

    • @divkovic14
      @divkovic14 6 місяців тому +131

      Not sure on this one. If applied, there would be much less drives/dunks/layups and more mid-range/3pt attempts. And since circus layups and dunks are the only highlight material worth watching these days, I'm not sure if removing def 3s would be good for the NBA, and they know it.
      IMO, nothing can revert the NBA to the previous state. Basketball has evolved to this, 3pt is worth the most and it is better to shoot 10x 3pt than any other shot. So everyone started shooting. If you can't shoot, you need to be athletic. 90% of current players are in these two categories, if not both. Rest of the league are niche players that have a specific role, but they don't get that many minutes typically.
      Euro basketball all the way! Hope it won't evolve like NBA did.

    • @Kodreanu23
      @Kodreanu23 6 місяців тому +44

      @@divkovic14 People are getting fed up with dunks highlights. The game is becoming too boring and something needs to be done about it. I think they will wait for Lebron to retire and then go for an experiment.

  • @ono3869
    @ono3869 6 місяців тому +1990

    I love it when a coach calls a timeout to draw up a play. Then the play ends up being a pick and switch leading to a step back 3. Real imaginative!

    • @timnic9242
      @timnic9242 6 місяців тому +32

      or they are not able to inbounce the ball and call another timeout

    • @rafikz77
      @rafikz77 6 місяців тому +151

      Phil Jackson during a time out : “iso for Michael on the elbow”

    • @illDefine1
      @illDefine1 6 місяців тому +29

      ​@@rafikz77yes. It is how you win a game consistently owned by top 5 players. Euroleague doesn't have enough talent to understand.

    • @captainobvious90
      @captainobvious90 6 місяців тому +6

      Brad Stevens was a master at drawing after time-outs plays, its a waste that he is in the front office now

    • @dennisdezarn5895
      @dennisdezarn5895 6 місяців тому +19

      Players are totally incapable of fighting through a ball screen. It's like taking your shoes off inside a house in Korea, it's just customary and expected to switch. To not do so would be consider rude. Almost unthinkable. And anyone close up to a jumpshooter is getting called for a foul because the shooter is gonna spazz out like he just got tased.

  • @londonrhodes2429
    @londonrhodes2429 6 місяців тому +774

    You have grossly underestimated the way the rule changes have infected the modern game. There are no travel calls. There are no carry calls. There's no hand checking etc.

    • @perfectbeat
      @perfectbeat 6 місяців тому +8

      Yep! I agree.

    • @Violaphobia
      @Violaphobia 4 місяці тому +39

      I don’t understand why traveling doesn’t get called. I understand the “rule” that if you dunk it then it isn’t traveling, at least that’s cool.

    • @liukang85
      @liukang85 4 місяці тому

      this

    • @liukang85
      @liukang85 4 місяці тому +51

      ​​@@Violaphobiayou just summed it up. Not calling travels makes for more highlights. It's people like you who are to blame lol even when going for a dunk a travel should be called

    • @buckstraw925
      @buckstraw925 4 місяці тому +4

      Traveling wasn't really ever called in the Pro game but yeah, it has gotten worse.

  • @mikebozik
    @mikebozik 6 місяців тому +304

    The biggest thing hurting the NBA is the lack of enforcement of the rules by the refs. I counted several instances of traveling and carrying the ball in your video... Stack on top of that all the rules changes that weaken the defense. The game has "sold out".

    • @liukang85
      @liukang85 4 місяці тому +7

      💯💯 and everyone who keeps watching it is to blame as well

    • @Anim3Gamer
      @Anim3Gamer 4 місяці тому +6

      I think the rules for traveling need to be updated. All these different moves like the euro and the double step back take advantage of dribbling rules and things would change if those rules are changed. So remove def 3 rule, hand checking, and change dribbling and things would change quickly back toward defenses.

    • @zeroisnine
      @zeroisnine 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@Anim3Gamertoo many and1 wannabes watch to ever enforce the rules

    • @atlien1988
      @atlien1988 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Anim3Gamer they updated the rules which is why you see all the nonsense. In the past all those would have rightfully been called traveling.
      Elgin Baylor was dazzling with the _Eurostep_ back in the 1960s.

  • @turdferguson8704
    @turdferguson8704 6 місяців тому +984

    I think it would be more exciting if each team had 100 timeouts. Really keeps the flow going.

    • @straightlead8
      @straightlead8 6 місяців тому +142

      They also need to add more reasons for fouls. Also increase instant replay challenges

    • @543whitey
      @543whitey 6 місяців тому +78

      huddles after every play like football!

    • @RavenMobile
      @RavenMobile 6 місяців тому +49

      It would also be great if they had an extended hour-long meet-and-greet session with the fans to sign autographs at halftime. They could also stand to have some raffles and silent auctions announced between plays, longer intermissions, and national anthems sung for each player's home country at the start of each game.

    • @j19games24
      @j19games24 6 місяців тому +26

      @@RavenMobile At the halftime show, every single play of the game is analyzed for at least 2 minutes each.

    • @michlo3393
      @michlo3393 6 місяців тому +26

      Changing the shotclock from 24 seconds to 3 minutes.

  • @justinle8787
    @justinle8787 6 місяців тому +1113

    They just need to give more power back to the defense. The rules are relatively the same back then and now but how refs interpret them are different. Most screens nowadays are moving screens, guys constantly carry the ball with their hands under the ball, too many travels... It's like if you let the offensive players run wild and bend the rules, they will do it duh lol

    • @roboninja3194
      @roboninja3194 6 місяців тому +92

      Id give your comment 10 likes if I could. When the ball handler can take 2-3 steps without a dribble because they're carrying the ball this gives the impression of better athleticism. There are countless clips of players going from the 3 pt line to the rim with 1-2 dribbles. Traveling is non existent too. It's all become so absurd. And yes the moving screens are a joke. You even have guys blatantly lowering their shoulder and using their forearm with their momentum while setting screens to know the hell out of defenders. And it's rarely ever called. You can think Adam Silver for the monstrosity that is the NBA now.

    • @brandongrabel6307
      @brandongrabel6307 6 місяців тому +97

      This 👆....bring back hand checking and let them actually play defense. There's less effort to close out on shooters for fear of "taking away their landing zone" and getting called for a foul, sometimes a flagrant 1. It's not that these players are just so much better than 10 years ago, defense gets penalized for most of the contact even when the offensive player is clearly the aggressor. So sick of watching offensive players bulldoze their way to the basket and getting favorable foul calls, when the defender is back pedaling with his hands straight up in the air.

    • @asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725
      @asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 6 місяців тому +47

      ​​@@brandongrabel6307i love how the nba commissioner himself said they were changing the rules specifically to make the game easier for offensive players.
      Now a decade later, you have many people claiming players are just better today...
      I feel bad for ray allen and reggie miller when people say steph is the greatesr shooter ever, i felt bad for kareem when lebron passed his score. Look how irritated kareem looks when he passes that ball to lebron. Maybe curry is a better shooter then ray or reggie, but they arent playing the same game so how exactly does someone make that statement without any mention of the rule changes.

    • @brandongrabel6307
      @brandongrabel6307 6 місяців тому +14

      @@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 agreed, I can't imagine steph having the same effect in the Reggie Miller era. Obviously he'd still be a great shooter, but would he be able to do it at the same rate in a more physical game at his size? Maybe he could, though the fear of giving up a 4 point play was a lot less back then. I think we can thank Reggie for starting the sticking out of the leg on a jump shot to create contact lol.

    • @asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725
      @asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 6 місяців тому +17

      @@brandongrabel6307 if it were more blatant, like for example say they widen the rim by a foot. We wouldnt be saying oh players are just better shooters today. We would say no, they widened the rim by a freakin foot, ofc they shoot better. At least most of us would. I can understand kids and people who didnt know baketball until recently. But when i hear people like kevin garnett saying the players today are just better, i want to tell him kevin, you were a shooting big man who could handle the ball decently. You dont think you could dominate under these soft rules?

  • @abramlittle7102
    @abramlittle7102 6 місяців тому +1064

    I remember going to a game a few yrs ago and realized none of the players were sweating. This made me remember how Michael Jordan used to literally sweat more than anyone ive ever seen

    • @badmoon710
      @badmoon710 6 місяців тому +34

      Great point

    • @genustinca5565
      @genustinca5565 6 місяців тому +121

      Todays NBA games are like video games.

    • @kono5933
      @kono5933 6 місяців тому +79

      Did you notice that in the first quarter or what lol they do sweat every game

    • @filipesantos6894
      @filipesantos6894 6 місяців тому +125

      Air conditioning has improved in modern arenas, helping players sweat LESS, although they do still sweat later in the game and when they have played more minutes.

    • @micbroc6435
      @micbroc6435 6 місяців тому +48

      Not a big fan of Dennis Rodman but he worked harder in practice than these guys do in game.

  • @chrisguevara
    @chrisguevara 6 місяців тому +120

    Changes to officiating:
    Call traveling more often
    Don't let players carry the ball
    Allow hand checking
    Call more offensive fouls

    • @InfiniteQuest86
      @InfiniteQuest86 4 місяці тому

      They don't allow hand checking? You can put your hands all over everyone and it never gets called.

    • @chrisguevara
      @chrisguevara 4 місяці тому +2

      @@InfiniteQuest86 There are levels to hand checking. Hand checking in the late 80s and early 90s allowed you to push on the offensive players hip fully extended, I remember correctly. But at all falls under the hand checking rule.

    • @InfiniteQuest86
      @InfiniteQuest86 4 місяці тому

      @@chrisguevara Maybe this doesn't carry over to varsity (high school) which I see way more of. Literally every kid has their hands all over the offensive player. Both hands at once. One hand at a time. Reaching in for the ball. Pushing on their back and hips. Like nothing happening out there resembles anything stated in the rule book.

    • @stellviahohenheim
      @stellviahohenheim 3 місяці тому

      Let white people play too

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 2 місяці тому

      make the court smaller in dimmensions as well like Europe and also eliminate corner threes.

  • @aramondehasashi3324
    @aramondehasashi3324 6 місяців тому +258

    It's already been said by many but the solution is to bring back the rule set they had before that didn't nerf defense and call the obvious violations like traveling that happen constantly.

    • @Knightmessenger
      @Knightmessenger 6 місяців тому

      What exactly were the rules that nerfed defense? I've never seen them explained.

    • @HoltsTricks
      @HoltsTricks 5 місяців тому

      3 second rule in the paint@@Knightmessenger

    • @judebachelet7822
      @judebachelet7822 5 місяців тому +13

      ​@@Knightmessenger handchecking being removed and leniency on travels/carries

    • @twostop6895
      @twostop6895 4 місяці тому +14

      @@Knightmessenger defense never used to have to worry about how long they are in the paint, the 3 second in the paint defense rule is new, it used to just apply to offense

    • @Knightmessenger
      @Knightmessenger 4 місяці тому +5

      @@twostop6895 defensive 3 seconds seems dumb. It would be like having offsides in hockey for the team crossing their own blue line and wondering why there are suddenly so many breakaways.

  • @samuelfomoadams4612
    @samuelfomoadams4612 6 місяців тому +478

    In agreement about offensive being too easy right now. I would love to see removal of 3 sec in the key and fouls called on defender when the offensive player initiates the contact.

    • @AnotherCarGuy375
      @AnotherCarGuy375 6 місяців тому

      *in the voice of Mr. Bean*
      "Oouuuu. I like!!"

    • @emiliothepoet
      @emiliothepoet 6 місяців тому +12

      Yup but they would force Lebron James to foul out and average 0 points a game

    • @Rdude4444
      @Rdude4444 6 місяців тому

      @@emiliothepoethow do his balls taste?

    • @rogelioatempa1115
      @rogelioatempa1115 6 місяців тому +21

      ​@@emiliothepoetget the hate out your heart.

    • @federaikkonerer
      @federaikkonerer 6 місяців тому +7

      @@emiliothepoet LeBron will never foul out ever. He has too much IQ. He can read the defense better than anyone in the league, even the coaches.

  • @obi-juantacobi8552
    @obi-juantacobi8552 6 місяців тому +66

    Just bring back the hand check.
    Bring back cut bumps
    No more post release shooting fouls (outside of flagrant or bonus)
    Let players play defense without getting whistled for breathing the same air as the offense.

  • @jameshealy4096
    @jameshealy4096 6 місяців тому +287

    I think you're not talking about the real elephant in the room, the 3 pointer. This is what happens when the outside shot is easier to get (more space) and more efficient (worth more points). The key tradeoff of basketball is supposed to be: harder to get shots inside are more efficient, easier to get shots outside are less efficient. Instead the 3 pointer messed it up.

    • @samuelcolin2775
      @samuelcolin2775 6 місяців тому +59

      The 3 pointer became too efficient. It is now just as efficient for some players to take a contested 3 as a contested layup.

    • @warpeace8891
      @warpeace8891 6 місяців тому +56

      I agree totally. What happens if we get rid of the three point line entirely and all baskets are two points? A game of basketball might break out. Simple solution to vastly improve the game. I can't see a downside.

    • @thequiethypemedia
      @thequiethypemedia 6 місяців тому +20

      @@warpeace8891then it would be the same problem centered around layups

    • @warpeace8891
      @warpeace8891 6 місяців тому +38

      @@thequiethypemedia - I am no expert, and maybe you are right but I don't see how. There will always be an advantage of shooting from range because it can give time and space that is not available in the key. Encouraging more action closer to the bucket is good for everyone.

    • @thequiethypemedia
      @thequiethypemedia 6 місяців тому +3

      @@warpeace8891 ok that makes sense

  • @nickos9190
    @nickos9190 6 місяців тому +827

    I think Orlando is showing how you can be succesfull with a different style. They are so fun to watch cause, they remind me of a European Team, lots of ball movement and cutting on offense with a team oriented approach. On defense they hustle and use their length to pressure the ball and play the passing lanes.

    • @AugustasSuliauskas
      @AugustasSuliauskas 6 місяців тому +76

      I had them in mind to mention during the video and now I'm sad I forgot to actually do it. One of a few teams showing you can be successful with a different style in the NBA. Surprise of the season so far

    • @marcozambelli3642
      @marcozambelli3642 6 місяців тому +27

      I like also Minnesota Timberwolves they are playing great right now

    • @nickos9190
      @nickos9190 6 місяців тому +24

      @@marcozambelli3642 you are right, seems Like Players who played the world Cup experienced what Teamplay and hard defense can do to level up their games. For Orlando, Paolo, Franz, Mo, Goga and Joe played and for the wolves
      Towns, Edwards, Anderson, Gobert all did too.

    • @AugustasSuliauskas
      @AugustasSuliauskas 6 місяців тому

      Good one too!@@marcozambelli3642

    • @nickos9190
      @nickos9190 6 місяців тому +15

      ​@@AugustasSuliauskasmaybe a Video Idea how NBA Players and Teams can benefit from international Play (Like the world Cup). Markanen, Towns, Schröder, Edwards, Mo Wagner, Franz, Banchero, Bogdanovic they improved so much by playing internationaly. Got their comfidence up and play really good as a result. The top two suprises of the year have each 5 Players who played the WC

  • @hardworkingcriminal4873
    @hardworkingcriminal4873 6 місяців тому +44

    Ive been telling anyone who'll listen that the NBA as a complete regular season product is unwatchable to a old school watcher.

    • @sinepnam
      @sinepnam 4 місяці тому +11

      Even to someone who started watching in the late 2000s this shit is getting lame

    • @barkerm9
      @barkerm9 4 місяці тому

      The league is only entertaining if you find following the players on social media entertaining.

    • @LunaticTheCat
      @LunaticTheCat 4 місяці тому

      Regular season games used to be way more entertaining to watch. Players like Kobe would never take a regular season games off.

    • @chrisschaeffer9661
      @chrisschaeffer9661 Місяць тому +1

      The most Boring BBall ever. And I've been watching since 79.

  • @gracehughes3795
    @gracehughes3795 6 місяців тому +28

    This is why knicks fans love the team so much. relatively balanced offensively (no excessive threes) and extremely gritty on defense, they still play old school basketball (and we know they aren’t good enough to win a championship) but my God are they easy to love and fun to watch.

  • @DavidSeymourofficial
    @DavidSeymourofficial 5 місяців тому +19

    1- Remove defensive 3 second rule
    2- Reduce number of regular season games
    3- Extend the 3 point line
    4- Allow teams to play physical defense again with less frequent fouls called
    Fixed!

    • @georgerogers1166
      @georgerogers1166 4 місяці тому +1

      Alternating possession would help with #4.

    • @spacelion4763
      @spacelion4763 4 місяці тому

      Reduce the number of reg season games? Hell no...

    • @georgerogers1166
      @georgerogers1166 4 місяці тому +1

      Reduce the number of postseason games instead. You can't allow half the league in the postseason in basketball. Too top-heavy.

    • @megaslayercho
      @megaslayercho 4 місяці тому +2

      Yes to all of the above except number 3.
      I dont think 3 point line should be extended,it should be outright removed completely.
      Beeing able to score from a big distance,bypassing enemy deffense all together is powerfull enough as it is.
      With current skill levels in NBA,I am even willing to bet that if we remove 3 point line and remove any extra points for shooting from afar,players would still end up tacking more shots beyond the 3 point line than mid range shots, because they are just that good.

    • @Conservativemanusa
      @Conservativemanusa 3 місяці тому

      Hear me out,no fouls...maybe I'm ahead of my time.

  • @armin38822
    @armin38822 6 місяців тому +372

    Warriors brought this 3 point shooting style but in their prime I loved watching their offense. It was super interesting with lots off things happening. What I don't like to see is when all teams just constantly play some sort off pick and roll/pop again and again...

    • @robertpalmatier2699
      @robertpalmatier2699 6 місяців тому +26

      Dallas mavericks with Steve Nash way before them. The warriors under Don Nelson before them with Baron Davis running small ball. Steph is one of the greatest shooters ever and was the first to master 80 feet behind the line. But plenty of teams were run and gun offense before the current Dubs team.

    • @balthorpayne
      @balthorpayne 6 місяців тому +20

      @@robertpalmatier2699Eh, Warriors are not run and gun. Those older teams were more like "Put up more shots asap" like older basketball games from the 60s. Warriors try to get better shots with tons of ball movement but have an offensive howitzer in Steph who can just put a goofy shot up from anywhere and make it seem run and gun. Warriors are more organized than those older teams just getting up shots.

    • @TheTariqibnziyad
      @TheTariqibnziyad 6 місяців тому +5

      Wait for the playoffs, the league still can't replicate GS motion offense, and of course they can't replicate Curry, GS is a playoff teams when fully healthy

    • @MentalStillness
      @MentalStillness 6 місяців тому +21

      The thing I respect about Golden State wasn't the three point shooting it was the ball movement, team defense. When they shot threes they were running plays not just chucking threes all game.

    • @soleworkz
      @soleworkz 6 місяців тому +6

      Rockets made it official they took more 3’s per game than any other team before the Warriors were known for it.

  • @davide6679
    @davide6679 6 місяців тому +113

    100% agree. And the funny thing is that every time I open you tube there is a new video titled "nba is crazy this year", "in-season tournament is mind blowing right now", and such. It's ridiculous.
    These are my 2 suggestions for a better nba. 1. Less games = equal more competition; 2. Better referring =stop silly fouls for every contact and let the game flow

    • @noname-xz2ns
      @noname-xz2ns 6 місяців тому +13

      Less games will mean smaller paychecks for players and we know how the players will react to that

    • @Creeksmallmouth
      @Creeksmallmouth 6 місяців тому

      They just have to push and push and push it.

    • @lolnothanksbill
      @lolnothanksbill 6 місяців тому

      million dollar cry babies

    • @TyTimeIsAwesome
      @TyTimeIsAwesome 6 місяців тому +12

      Agree, but the ref issue will never get fixed. Why would the NBA fix it anyways when those guys are the ones rigging the game for the league?

    • @jastrology4192
      @jastrology4192 6 місяців тому +3

      Less games=less injuries=happier world for everyone

  • @Sardonac
    @Sardonac 6 місяців тому +34

    When sports get boring or broken, leagues change the rules. This happens frequently in baseball, where the whole game depends on a fine balance between pitchers and hitters, where an imbalance either way breaks the game. In basketball, rule changes have kept Shaq from running amok, from overly physical games, etc. So the only real question is: how should the NBA change the rules? I'd appreciate a video on some of the options which have been proposed.

  • @ntdscherer
    @ntdscherer 6 місяців тому +76

    I would be interested to see some exhibition games with no 3 point line, to see how that affects the game.

    • @mopanda81
      @mopanda81 6 місяців тому +8

      There's also a personnel problem. If we eliminate the 3 point line but still have teams geared to shoot all their offense then it's still gonna be shooting dominate. The 3 point line was in the game for DECADES before we ever evolved to the point where people are shooting the majority of shots from behind the line.

    • @Gnofg
      @Gnofg 6 місяців тому

      It would end up eventually looking like this. We need to eliminate the corner 3 pointer and move it out to 28 feet.
      This makes the mid range game important. Watch the speed of the game in the seventies. People moved without the ball and real fast breaks.
      ua-cam.com/video/ML9t9wf-evo/v-deo.htmlsi=ViTvFUU71pJZZDex

    • @Darkmagecurt
      @Darkmagecurt 6 місяців тому +8

      ​@mopanda81 gotta start somewhere tho..personell will figure itself out with time. Big basketball fan all my life and it's a snooze fest to watch today.

    • @GS-vb3zn
      @GS-vb3zn 5 місяців тому +3

      Erasing the 3-point line would be a good start. Would the game still be shooting dominate? Yes, but not as much. It's a risk/reward thing. Shooting from nearly 1/2 court might not be as enticing for 2 points.

    • @NealBones
      @NealBones 4 місяці тому

      Find some old games from the 60s.

  • @chanendlerbong
    @chanendlerbong 6 місяців тому +54

    Regular season is ruined but at least playoffs were good last year

  • @reneg3126
    @reneg3126 6 місяців тому +122

    Get rid of the zero step rule and points will go down. Also start to actually call travelling. But I doubt that will ever happen.

    • @AugustasSuliauskas
      @AugustasSuliauskas 6 місяців тому +28

      What about the 3-second rule in the paint is gone? I think that would already drastically improve the game. Hand-checking too. These athletes can be absolutely amazing defensively when they are 100% and have energy. Like in the playoffs. The FG% go down like crazy

    • @sincorddnb9155
      @sincorddnb9155 6 місяців тому +14

      But then LeBum would never score.

    • @mr.sinjin-smyth
      @mr.sinjin-smyth 6 місяців тому +10

      Bring back hand checking also.

    • @roboninja3194
      @roboninja3194 6 місяців тому +2

      The zero step rule doesn't even exist. In the actual NBA rulebook I mean. I know refs officiate the game with that silliness but it's not a rule and has never been a rule.

    • @Ohandori
      @Ohandori 6 місяців тому +15

      @@roboninja3194 the gather step (the same thing as the zero step) was formally added into the rulebook in 2019

  • @luke4010
    @luke4010 4 місяці тому +4

    This is why I watch 2014 and older finals games on UA-cam. It's really fun if you can't remember who won that year

  • @douglassun8456
    @douglassun8456 6 місяців тому +140

    Two thoughts:
    When the 3-point shot was introduced, it was an interesting wrinkle. It added an additional dimension that you had to consider. But it's inherently unexciting to watch, compared to a post-up or a drive to the hoop. So when it becomes the main form of offense, the game becomes more boring to watch.
    There's an old boxing saying that, "Styles make fights." It's interesting when fighters that use different styles face each other because you want to see how they interact with each other. Same in team sports; when everyone plays the same way you don't have that kind of intrigue.

    • @right8630
      @right8630 6 місяців тому +9

      Absolutely If they allowed more physical play I think it would solve this.

    • @donttrendonme
      @donttrendonme 6 місяців тому +5

      They really do okay different thought. Bucks, Warriors, Nuggets, Heat, Pacers, Magic, Clippers (still evolving) all have different ways of playing and are at the top of the league

    • @Matalito
      @Matalito 6 місяців тому +7

      The old timers were right. The 3 pointer killed basketball. It has to go away to eliminate incentives to take lower percentage shots.
      Just like homeruns ruining baseball. When that has become the primary scoring method, instead of a bonus, you're playing a different sport.

    • @megaslayercho
      @megaslayercho 4 місяці тому +3

      In my opinion there is a very elegant very simple solution to all modern basketball problems and it's not some major super innovative rule change ,quite the opposite ,it's just about going back, back to 70s basketball.
      Back to the time when there was no 3 point line.
      Back to the time when lifting the pivot was called travel.
      Back to the time when there was no defensive 3 second rule.
      Back to the time when you couldnt just play for cheap fouls as an attacker, bumping your self into stationary deffenders and than crying for foul(when according to OG basketball theory and rulles,it should be foul in favor of the deffence,not the offense, modern basketball has turned this rule litteraly 180 degress of where it should be)
      We dont need a 3 point line,beeing able to score from a distance,thus bypassing the need to get throught the enemy deffence ,is powerfull enough at it is(infact with the current level of skill in the NBA,I am certain even if we remove 3 point line today,there will still be plenty of shots taken from beyond 3 point line range,infact 3 point shots would still probably be more common than mid range shots).
      Not only would the above mentioned classic rules help to balance the game in every right way, making it more about team work, hustle, pacing and strategy ,rather than just spaming the same exact 2 possible plays 'allowed' in modern bball(basicly you either shoot 3 point or you dive and you play to get fouled and there is litteraly noting else),but on top of balancing the game it would also make the game simpler to learn, simpler to referee and it would diminish the gap between how casual and professional games are played(rules and balance wise).
      So when it comes to rules in basketball, just like many other things in life, less is actually better.

    • @right8630
      @right8630 4 місяці тому

      @@megaslayercho no absolutely not the three pointer is the only reason to shoot from deep. The math would be get as many 7 footers as you can if you remove the three and it would go bad the other way just allow defenders to be a little more physical and maybe instead of thee seconds make it 4-5.

  • @dasiro
    @dasiro 6 місяців тому +58

    revert a lot of the rulechanges since the jordan-era: allow handchecking, defensive 3 seconds and don't call every offensive player initialized bump a defensive foul. And while you're at it: decrease the amount of timeouts back to 5. Distance shooters aren't entertaining, because every second a ball is in the air there's no action going on.

    • @TheGold1knight
      @TheGold1knight 6 місяців тому +4

      They also need to extend the 3 point line and push it beyond the corners. We can easily track the expected value of a shot depending on the distance it's taken from and a 3 pointer is wildly more valuable than a shot at the elbow, for example. Ideally shots from the elbow/free throw line and 3 pointers have the same expected value, so the entire court is used by the offense.

  • @eduardobranco8349
    @eduardobranco8349 6 місяців тому +245

    I have been saying this for a couple of years now. The 2010s was the best nba basketball ever. The stretch 4 was still just starting to become popular enough, but teams like the spurs still played splitter and duncan at the same time and it worked wonderfully. Also, you are right. The 3 sec defensive rule doesnt make sense anymore. It is clearly outdated and should be removed

    • @curtiszyr
      @curtiszyr 6 місяців тому +15

      80s is the best no 90s is the best no it’s 2000s now you say 2010s everybody just need to stfu

    • @eduardobranco8349
      @eduardobranco8349 6 місяців тому +36

      @@curtiszyr right... in a comment section about basketball we need to shut up. We shouldn't be able to express our opinions of what era was the best. Thanks for being the thought police

    • @curtiszyr
      @curtiszyr 6 місяців тому

      @@eduardobranco8349 yes STFU it’s not that serious 🧐

    • @ToumapassarZEZOCA
      @ToumapassarZEZOCA 6 місяців тому

      ​@@curtiszyrjerk

    • @MemoTea
      @MemoTea 6 місяців тому +9

      You were born in 1998 probably. 1980s-1990s, was the golden era.

  • @TTony-tu6dm
    @TTony-tu6dm 6 місяців тому +35

    The NBA now is simply an elaborate game of HORSE, with 5 guards throwing up three pointers and teams combining for 270 points in regulation. It’s time to get rid of the three point line

    • @SI-cd7xs
      @SI-cd7xs 4 місяці тому +2

      never happen. basketball rules are set globally. its basketball itself has been found out as a sport. it hasnt stood the test of time

    • @user-uy8wx4pk4h
      @user-uy8wx4pk4h 19 днів тому

      @@SI-cd7xs Basketball is a flawed sport because of the three point line. It destroys the basic internal logic of the game, which is a trade off between moving the ball inside to get closer shots, vs taking further shots that are more open. It just took a long time to figure it out because after it was introduced teams kept playing the same way. Then eventually the statistics people said you need to be shooting way more threes, and they were right, but it ruined the game.

  • @jicalzad
    @jicalzad 6 місяців тому +64

    As a few already mentioned below, I think they could bring back hand checking. I think that most, if not all, players would be ok with that

    • @sumdude4281
      @sumdude4281 6 місяців тому +4

      Yes, was thinking same.

    • @Shoot4Nothing
      @Shoot4Nothing 6 місяців тому +3

      Absolutely agree, that's the first thing I'd bring back. See how that affects 3pointers when the defender can actually defend.

  • @damodardas219
    @damodardas219 6 місяців тому +15

    Moving the 3 point line back and eliminating the corner 3 would lower the incentive to just shoot 3s all game.

    • @stldweller
      @stldweller 2 місяці тому

      You can’t move the line back further or you eliminate corner 3’s your feet would be out of bounds.

  • @poym4320
    @poym4320 6 місяців тому +39

    nba punishes the defender too much with ridiculous soft calls, illegal picks, carry ball etc.
    i cant even finish a full game cause its that bad not real basketball anymore
    fiba even with not perfect refs is still more fun to watch and ive been watching the nba for 35 years its just sad

    • @ilikewater9302
      @ilikewater9302 6 місяців тому +7

      for real im tired of talented defenders that have to hold back because of shitty rules. every point looks so free for the taking and its so boring to watch

  • @bobsyuruncle5102
    @bobsyuruncle5102 6 місяців тому +28

    This is fascinating. In football (soccer) we have a similar issue. They have eliminated individuality and everyone is an athlete now. We just see teams dominating the ball and focusing on possession and it's more focused on the team or the system. Yes teams now are superior and would smash teams of the past, but it gets so boring watching attacking players just focusing on keeping the ball instead of ATTACKING. at least basketball still focuses on attacking.

    • @mikehunt3420
      @mikehunt3420 6 місяців тому +2

      Noticed some of this in scotland v spain this past cup. The game was just dull on scotland side. Spain played them like a violin

    • @tokilladaemon
      @tokilladaemon 6 місяців тому +2

      eh i think football is pretty exciting, the quality as a viewer is defo better now than it was in the chelsea mourinho days. i hate oil clubs and what they represent, but from a purely sporting perspective i'd rather watch city any day of the week than jose's chelsea or wenger's arsenal. there are also clear strategic differences between the top clubs, city liverpool, real, bayern etc all play differently and what's good is that none of them are defensive

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 5 місяців тому

      ​@@tokilladaemontbh i play both footballs, both american one and european one but tbh i seem to like the american one more because at any moment it could be a big play. Something european football lacks tbh. Its not a criticizim on the worlds most beautiful game but i just prefer the roughness, explosiveness and tactics of american football.

    • @ezra5514
      @ezra5514 5 місяців тому +1

      Nba flops more than soccer now. At least soccer players are allowed to get physical.
      Can't even breathe on basketball players 😂

    • @BobSaint
      @BobSaint 5 місяців тому +2

      Teams today are not superior, and they would not "smash" the teams of 80s. It's the same thing as in NBA - the organisations made the defence waaaaaay harder with the rules. In the 80s all the way up to mid-90s, a sliding start, even from behind, was not called if the defensive player made contact with the ball first. Today, it's an auto yellow card.
      This is why it's important to put things in context when comparing Maradona and Messi. Messi and Portugese Ronaldo wouldn't last 20min with butchers like Goikoetxea in the back. Btw, this is the guy that held the shoe in which he broke Maradona's leg as a greatest souvenir of his career in his cabinet.

  • @JJJJ-hp9oz
    @JJJJ-hp9oz 6 місяців тому +8

    Allow perimeter hand-checking again. Allow defenders to bump cutters coming into the lane again. Stop calling fouls for contact after the shot is released. The game will be more physical like it used to be. Scoring will come down.

  • @Michalis_Sideratos
    @Michalis_Sideratos 6 місяців тому +84

    Guys have a regular talkshow about college bb. It's way more interesting than regular season nba. The solution is known for years and is simple. Make the court smaller. = tightens defense = less successful 3 point shots = 5 players actually participating in the game = interesting sport

    • @kingjasko
      @kingjasko 6 місяців тому +17

      i wish we could have NBA play with FIBA rules...

    • @brkus2665
      @brkus2665 6 місяців тому +19

      Sure, the premium product of college bb. Like 90% of college hoops is an unwatchable affair if you aren't personally invested. Like your son is playing or you went to that college or that is like your town or something. For just a regular basketball watcher those are truly bad display of basketball.

    • @fica1137
      @fica1137 6 місяців тому

      ​@@brkus2665agree

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. 6 місяців тому +3

      I just think allowing Defense more would solve it, while keeping many of the great attributes in the NBA, but I do vibe with that

    • @mr.sinjin-smyth
      @mr.sinjin-smyth 6 місяців тому +7

      Bring back hand checking. Give the defense some edge again.

  • @etang5
    @etang5 6 місяців тому +5

    I think with the advances of recruitment and knowledge, it's hard to be different in philosophy than making sure players get good looks at 3pt shots. If every team can get a big, tall players that can shoot 3s now because that's the most efficient then it's hard to be different. I think this is why Jokic is so amazing. He also has a solid post game where nobody knows how to defend that any more while being able to shoot 3s and pass.

  • @evi8905
    @evi8905 6 місяців тому

    Really nice and complete video man. Lots of things u pointed out really worth looking at

  • @henning14
    @henning14 6 місяців тому +18

    So true. These regular season games became so boring. Often even the 5 to 8 minutes highlight videos on YT are annoying 3pt-contest and easy lay-ups😅.
    It will never really change when every rich dude involved could make an another couple of millions more because money is the priority number 1.

    • @jakemccoy
      @jakemccoy 6 місяців тому

      All I watch are highlights nowadays. I never watch full games anymore.

  • @pepelepew4621
    @pepelepew4621 6 місяців тому +1

    Awesome take. Ive been feeling this way for years Im glad you made this

  • @jumpman83
    @jumpman83 6 місяців тому +5

    Don't forget the ability to travel and double dribble as long as it leads to points.

  • @Kosithegod
    @Kosithegod 6 місяців тому +273

    Every sport hits this point. It gets broken down into a science, perfected then it stagnates. The only way to keep it interesting is to keep changing the rules in interesting ways. I think keep defensive 3 in the game but allow more physicality by defenders. Not with their hands or, in the air but allowing them to bump more with their body would make the game way more interesting IMO.

    • @ACE99299
      @ACE99299 6 місяців тому +10

      That would probably lead to more injuries

    • @SauceKingg
      @SauceKingg 6 місяців тому +51

      Disagree, there's no other sport where you can concede a point even though the defence did everything right. There has to be a mistake made on the defenses part that is exploited. My problem with basketball has always been you can do everything right and still lose points all the time. But that's more about the sport in general

    • @KVAA10
      @KVAA10 6 місяців тому +1

      definitely not lol it boils down a lot to coaching.. you have to find ways within the rules to defeat that system.. no system is 100% full proof and has its flaws.. its up to coaches to find its weaknesses and figure out numerous ways to exploit said weaknesses.. that why weve seen a resurgence of the centre position and the last few MVPs were Centres.. post defence and defence at the rim is almost nonexistant now which actually make teams with elite centres going forward more valuable than lets say the star of most 3 and D sysytems.. another weakness in the 3 and D pick and roll system is the lack of defence in the mid range.. they admit it themselves when they say "we live and die if they take the midrange".. guys like Wade, Kobe and most of all Jordan wouldve torched this era because they shot these like lay ups which becomes a HUGE problem because at you dont want 3 pt shot or shots at the rim as 3 and D defence but what happens when those shots at the rim have almost the same percentage as shots at 17ft and you arent equipped to defend it.. also rotating the ball on offence significantly increases chances of scoring and is a major reason why team USA lost at the world cup.. teams just moved the ball way better than team usa who played 3 and d with a lot of iso n pick and roll.. this increase in scoring efficiency and likelyhood level out or in most cases trumps the benefits if the 3 and D system.. 3 and D isnt full proof in the slightest..

    • @DanielFolsom
      @DanielFolsom 6 місяців тому +16

      @@SauceKinggThat's kind of an odd / unique way to look at sports ... (I'm also not sure I agree ... you could run a NFL zone defense perfectly, and there might still be a crack where a receiver gets open. Now, you could say "oh the offense exploited the weakness of the coverage" ... but you could absolutely say that about NBA offenses, too.)

    • @cedric7049
      @cedric7049 6 місяців тому +19

      If you take soccer, it has been so called "perfected" a few times, other teams copied the trend and every time a counter emerged. Rinse, repeat.

  • @gooshnpupp
    @gooshnpupp 6 місяців тому +8

    Remove 3 seconds rule + allow hand checking = problem solved

  • @arizonabusinessleague918
    @arizonabusinessleague918 6 місяців тому +15

    As someone who passively likes basketball, my biggest gripe is about how no one has the right or ability to defend themselves or the basket. EVERYTHING IS A FOUL.

    • @Sandyttt
      @Sandyttt 6 місяців тому +1

      I'm a casual but I don't get defensive fouls. Sir I'm literally blocking you, WHY AM I GETTING FOULED FOR DEFENDING??

    • @arizonabusinessleague918
      @arizonabusinessleague918 6 місяців тому

      @Sandy-ti5xb yeah, how is preventing them from having a free lane wrong? With the power of shooting now, the restricted area and three second violation maybe should be removed

  • @craigwest756
    @craigwest756 6 місяців тому +2

    You made every valuable point. We don't need less games, we need a more physical game, a man's game.

  • @stri2003
    @stri2003 6 місяців тому +22

    They have made it showbusiness!

    • @marvinhenry927
      @marvinhenry927 6 місяців тому

      It's been that sports Entertainment in the US nothing beats the dollar by any means

  • @aaronstark5060
    @aaronstark5060 6 місяців тому +59

    I think this is true for baseball as well. As much of a believer in sabermetrics, it has made for an inferior product in the field. And, much as you said for the NBA, teams no longer have personality in terms of how they play the game, all teams are being built the same, with the same philosophy and same strategies in mind.

    • @gamble777888
      @gamble777888 6 місяців тому +4

      Baseball already took steps to bring back certain elements that were lost or abused with sabermetrics. I don't think it's true NBA teams today all have the same personality. The Heat, Nuggets, Mavs, Magic all have very, very different play styles and identities just ot name a few.

    • @aaronstark5060
      @aaronstark5060 6 місяців тому +14

      @@gamble777888
      Yeah, except it was kinda a band-aid on a bullet wound. The numbers don’t show much of a change. Stolen bases were way up, and that’s great, but batting average was almost identical and strikeout rates too. Walks and home runs were both up significantly, so the game still leans on the three true outcomes more than ever before. And besides all that, none of the rule changes that they made or can make will affect the root cause of the issue; batters now are all swinging for the fences and pitchers are all throwing 95 because the analytics show that it is the most effective way to play. And the worst part is that the analytics are right. That’s why this homogeny is likely here to stay. They’ve figured out the most efficient way to play the game and there’s not much room for deviation from those strategies.

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian 6 місяців тому +5

      @@aaronstark5060 That's why I prefer to watch soccer. The rules haven't changed much, and teams are successful based on the tactics and formations they use.

    • @lethalfang
      @lethalfang 6 місяців тому +1

      Sabermetrics tries to find the best way to win games under the rules of the game. Nothing wrong with sabermetrics. It is used to maximize winning by teams. The rules of the game need to adopt to incentivize the most entertaining product.

    • @aaronstark5060
      @aaronstark5060 6 місяців тому +3

      @@lethalfang
      Right, but the point is that it is so efficient that it has caused a homogenization of strategy and play style. Everyone plays the game the same because of it. Whether or not there’s anything wrong with that is a matter of opinion. In my opinion, there is.

  • @divad23
    @divad23 6 місяців тому +4

    I totally agree from a “watchability” stand point, it’s boring to watch the same thing:
    -no mid range game;
    - teams missing 65-70% of their 45 three point attempts
    - pick n roll drives
    - and endless ticky-tack fouls…
    With that said, e.g Pacers have the WORST defence in league while having #1 offence….sound familiar? Yes. Kings had the exact same situation last season!… and were firsts round playoff BUSTS.
    In the IST finale, Pacers shooters and offence buckled under pressure.
    In fact, in the 3rd quarter, Lakers were 0/12 threes - and were leading by double digits, which goes to show teams don’t need to throw up endless threes (or even hit them) to win.
    Granted, not every team has the inside presence of Anthony Davis or Jokic, but teams enphasizing “play-making and “defence” are bucking the boring, analytics basketball trend.
    Any rule changes that make basketball chess again, instead of checkers, will help the sport

  • @jameslawrence9865
    @jameslawrence9865 6 місяців тому +7

    If I were making a new rule to create a new dynamic, I would want to have each team to have their first 5 shots behind the arc eligible for 3 each quarter. After that - it's only worth 2. The exception - the final 3 to 4 minutes of the fourth quarter, so teams can "hail mary" their way back in a blowout.
    This would probably cut the three point attempts by 40%, because some sort of midrange OR shots in the paint would be much more worth it.
    I would also think that the less talented long range shooters would get less attempts from three and would have to develop other parts of their game to make an impact.

    • @isaaclaughter
      @isaaclaughter 6 місяців тому +1

      Man, that take is actually refreshing to hear.

  • @Damackism
    @Damackism 6 місяців тому +98

    *Bring back hand checking. On and off the ball.
    *Get rid of the 3 second rule in the key.
    * Team and league wide defenses tailored to contain the 3pt shot. It annoys me watching games how players are so easily duped into giving up the 3 pt shot. I would happily give up a 2pt shot attempt in todays NBA than risk a 3 pt shot attempt.
    * Better, non rigged, and non biased refereeing. Refs have too much control over games pace and results.

    • @nomooon
      @nomooon 6 місяців тому +27

      Attackers who initiate contact shouldn't be able to draw the foul

    • @roboninja3194
      @roboninja3194 6 місяців тому +21

      @@nomooon Big facts. If you throw yourself into a defender and steamroll over him you should be called for an offensive foul.

    • @TheTariqibnziyad
      @TheTariqibnziyad 6 місяців тому +1

      As a GS fan i can confirm the ref part, we are the best team that moves the ball but we are punished for it

    • @luckerooni1153
      @luckerooni1153 6 місяців тому +7

      @@roboninja3194 I don't think you should get a foul it should just be ignored as regular play contact as it used to be. Refs are so fucking soft with the flop baiting.

    • @curtiszyr
      @curtiszyr 6 місяців тому

      That’s what the refs are there for lmaoo atp if you enjoy it just don’t watch 😂😅

  • @AlexDodig
    @AlexDodig 6 місяців тому +14

    Again, great analysis and I agree with most of it. But I am not sure if you are painting with too broad a brush here. Even if there is a clear trend, teams like Minnesota, Orlando, Toronto or Philly are showing right now that you don't have to rely too much on 3 pointers to have a decent season (so far 😅).

  • @justinsuter7893
    @justinsuter7893 6 місяців тому

    Very insightful video thanks!

  • @pastabastard6696
    @pastabastard6696 6 місяців тому +2

    Remove the defensive 3 seconds rule and bring back hand checking.

  • @Shadow-Scorp1on
    @Shadow-Scorp1on 6 місяців тому +55

    I love nba and I dont mind 3 pointers, what im disappointed at is players that care for their stats and wait for rebounds, they dont bother in defence unless is an easy block with advantage, no effort in defence in defence and in general, Euroleague has strong defence and systems we dont even see in finals, far more enjoyable, nowdays is only individuality and no effort..its like each player waiting his turn to score and relax..no team effort either..

    • @imulippo5245
      @imulippo5245 6 місяців тому +4

      and no risk when losing because of closed league

    • @agomez7740
      @agomez7740 6 місяців тому +11

      Those systems we see in the Euroleague are just not efficient enough to use in the NBA, most of the times the end result is a semiopen to open midrange jumpshot, a lot of times not even by the best midrange shooter in the team, and in the NBA those are alredy considered a win for the defense, unless the guy pulling up is really, really good in the midrange. If the offensive scheme is not generating more than 1 point per possesion there is just no reason to use it at that level. That's why the center post up died for years in the NBA until there were a few players that could score over 1 point per possesion in those situations, like Jokic and Embiid, and even now it's still limited to the few players that can make it work at that efficiency. It's the same reason the midrange shot or the off the dribble 3 are usually something only a few players get to shoot, because for everyone else the shot is just not good enough, even if it's open.
      It's like in chess, at high level up to the international master level you see all the openings, but once you get to the best grand master players in clasical chess (not speed games when they are trying to surprise their oponents) most of the time they play the same few openings that are the best ones and specific sidelines within openings to attack their opponent's prep work, because playing something that is solid but not as efficient is just giving up too much of an advantage to their opponent.

    • @illDefine1
      @illDefine1 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@agomez7740 thank you for putting things into perspective. Needing teamwork to generate shots, in a game where you can simply score by pulling up on your defender, only signifies a lack in talent.

    • @agomez7740
      @agomez7740 6 місяців тому +1

      @@illDefine1 not really what I meant either. In the NBA they still need teamwork to generate good shots, such as layups and open catch and shoot 3s, it's just that a lot of the plays Euroleague teams run don't end up in those shots, they end up in the kind of shots that would be seen as bailout shots in the NBA, the kind that are usually reserved for the end of the possession and that almost all players can get by themselves.

    • @illDefine1
      @illDefine1 6 місяців тому +2

      @@agomez7740 I believe that is mostly due to the ability for nba players to generate their own shots when necessary ... which is truly the biggest gap between the 2 leagues.

  • @nicford1486
    @nicford1486 6 місяців тому +33

    Spot on. Without changes it will remain boring.
    I don't even watch NBA anymore.
    Eliminating the 3 point line from the corners (naturally letting it flow out of bound) and the 3 second defense rule would help. Additionally allowing more defensive contact or even bringing back hand checking. The way the offensive player can initiate contact and get a foul is disgusting.

    • @straightlead8
      @straightlead8 6 місяців тому +1

      They need to add a 4pt line

    • @benjaminbronnimann3966
      @benjaminbronnimann3966 6 місяців тому +9

      ​@@straightlead8 no that would make the already existing problem worse and would fuck up the spacing even more

    • @cfl4286
      @cfl4286 6 місяців тому +1

      This. I can’t stand seeing an offensive player drive into a defender and get a foul. It’s some bs.

    • @lk29392
      @lk29392 6 місяців тому +2

      Get rid of the defensive 3 second rule, let hand checking happen, eliminate the corner 3, and bring the 3 point line back a couple feet. Make it a 2 pointer game where it is sometimes better to hit mid range jumpers than get banged on down low. Don't let the stars "load manage". Get rid of politics. The game will be 100X more watchable.

  • @rustygorelick7384
    @rustygorelick7384 4 місяці тому +1

    Great, great video. I'd like to see the defensive three seconds rule removed and hand checking brought back. Hand checking could force players to space even further out, but it would also bring a certain baseline of physicality to the league that would make each matchup more engaging for the players and, as a result, fans. It would be good to see it trialled somewhere, maybe the G League for a season. Loved your point about the techno music during play - I've been to many basketball games in my life and the NBA is becoming sensory overload. I recently started watching hockey and they turn down the lights between periods... the NBA turns up the music and turns on flashing lights after every whistle and it's tiring, especially when your team is down 15. Lastly I think American youth basketball focuses on athleticism and developing a "bag" too much and should put more emphasis on teaching players how to manipulate a defense, get to a spot and get a shot off without much room, which Doncic and Jokic do better than anyone.

  • @benjamink7105
    @benjamink7105 6 місяців тому +2

    Let's get radical:
    1) Widen the court from 50 feet to 56 (you can also think of it as 28 feet from hoop to sideline).
    2) Extend the corner three point line from 22 feet to 25 feet (where the sideline is currently)
    3) Around the arc, make it at least 27 feet, possibly 28.
    4) Eliminate the defensive 3 second rule
    Results:
    Offensive balance. Or, to be reductive, more mid range shots.
    On this new court, 3 point shooting is discouraged because of distance. Layups are now riskier because of the ever present big man. A wider area has also been created for midrange shots. In theory this will lead to more balance between 3 pointers, 2 point jump shots, and 2 point shots in the lane (including layups and dunks). The wider court also gives more room to the bigger, stronger, and longer players of today's game.
    I've been watching the NBA for 30+ years. This is a completely different game than what I grew up with. It has been optimized to death. Which is impressive, tbh, that we've essentially "solved basketball."
    But that also makes it boring sometimes. Will the NBA have the guts to make radical changes like the MLB did? We shall see.
    Thank you for attending my Ted Talk.

  • @user-cv4ww3xz3v
    @user-cv4ww3xz3v 6 місяців тому +30

    they need to bring back man basketball where hand checking no 3 second rule and harder contact is allowed that way we can witness true ball and not a 3 point contest.Its getting ridiculous

  • @Rrr12677
    @Rrr12677 6 місяців тому +11

    The Video we needed.

  • @carseye1219
    @carseye1219 6 місяців тому +1

    Remember when "palming" used to be called? Look at a video from the 1970s, your hand couldn't go under the ball. Now, palming is celebrated as having a "great handle". The defenders have no chance. They never call what used to be the "principle of verticality" against the offense. The offense creates contact and, chance for a 3 pt play. EVERYTHING favors the offense. "Euro steps" used to be called traveling. Now guys get away with one dribble from the 3 pt line all the way to the rim. Let's just have officials call the game the way it should be.

  • @robebryant40
    @robebryant40 3 місяці тому

    thanks! best video I've seen on the subject

  • @unpl4y3d
    @unpl4y3d 6 місяців тому +6

    IMO the NBA needs to change four things 1 bring back the handcheck 2 remove the defensive three second rule 3 remove the corner three 4 call travels they happen way too much and offense is allowed to basically do anything they want now this would definetly help the defense and actually make it diffecult to have a bag

  • @vincentc3129
    @vincentc3129 6 місяців тому +17

    Adam Silver is happy, the goal is just to transform basketball game into quick highlights watchable by tiktok generation

    • @koutroubasathanasios7322
      @koutroubasathanasios7322 6 місяців тому +6

      THIS. Thats it. Theres not much more to it to honest. But it cannot last, short attention span means consuming so much faster that it will soon have diminishing returns. If everything is a highlight, all the time, after a certain point, nothing is.

    • @Rockownz5150
      @Rockownz5150 6 місяців тому

      @@koutroubasathanasios7322 Do tiktok (or even UA-cam) views bring in $, though? 12-16 year old boys watch the highlights and buy Steph Curry jersies, that's the business model?

    • @luisaomdr
      @luisaomdr 6 місяців тому +2

      Perfect summary

  • @allegronontroppo1
    @allegronontroppo1 6 місяців тому +1

    Get rid of the 3 pt shot, bring back hand checking, and ENOUGH of the ticky-tack fouls already.

  • @biggiejerseysTV
    @biggiejerseysTV 6 місяців тому

    Great video! I must say in one hand we are now seeing the greatest athletes to ever play the game of basketball currently in the NBA. But on the other hand with data & analytics offenses have become so damn efficient that the game itself has become stale & brining to watch, IMO. I just would like to find a hybrid of the eras I grew up with (late-90s & 2000s) and the way today’s game is played. Also, more offensive fouls should be called especially when the offensive player is the one who initiates the contact. I have nothing against the three-point shot like most older basketball heads do, but the fact that everyone can shoot it makes it basically like a layup. Also essentially every big is just a stretch 4 & 5 has killed post offenses, which is something I always enjoyed in the game of basketball. The NBA should do like what the NHL does in terms of the young players & the draft, you can draft a young player and then just let them stay in college or whatever to develop for a couple of years and yes granted they are some players who would be ready for NBA basketball at 18/19 but let’s be honest here most players who are drafted at that age are nowhere close to being ready to play in the NBA. I never want them to cut the amount of games during the regular season, as it seriously was never an issue that people talked about until like 5 or so years ago. Also, another thing that makes the NBA regular season so boring is so many teams like to “rest” their stars or better players so you aren’t seeing the best basketball for an entire 82 game schedule. I never thought that I’d say this but I miss the iso days of basketball, lol.

  • @dennisrossonero
    @dennisrossonero 6 місяців тому +60

    The regular season in the nba is truly abysmal. i would have loved to see these amazing players playing under Europe rules. Much more interesting.

  • @rj2v
    @rj2v 6 місяців тому +5

    Get rid of the 3pt line and defensive 3 seconds. Job done!

    • @fadercreek
      @fadercreek 6 місяців тому

      this might actually be it

  • @Emc4421
    @Emc4421 6 місяців тому

    Hey man, how do you get your footage? Do you record the game and edit it? I've tried to do that but youtubetv blocks it. I'm interested in creating some content myself, and don't know where to start. This is a fantastic video and I would like to learn.

  • @wilishness
    @wilishness 6 місяців тому +1

    I’m Australian and have always loved the NBA!! The last 3-4 years though I’ve found myself watching more and more NBL.. particularly during the NBA regular season. Shorter games, more defensive focus, closer games, and less games on the season so they all seem to matter more. NBA playoffs are unmatched but the regular season is a tough follow..

  • @Hermann4L
    @Hermann4L 6 місяців тому +26

    Imo the regular season should be shortened. And maybe some incentives linked to seeding at the end of the season, also the def 3 second rule getting scrapped is a good idea.
    Watching offense with no defense being played is so boring. Someone scoring against tough defense or a defending team completely locking down their opponents offensive possession is what we wanna watch.

    • @piedpiper1172
      @piedpiper1172 6 місяців тому +1

      I don’t understand why any sport needs more than about 20-25 regular season games.
      Beyond that and they just don’t mean anything.

    • @gustavorocha8643
      @gustavorocha8643 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@piedpiper1172most soccer national leagues have 34 to 38 games. I think it is a good number.

    • @donaldjgumpofficial5754
      @donaldjgumpofficial5754 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@gustavorocha8643It makes more sense when the league decides the title. Playing 38 games only for nearly half of the league to enter playoffs sucks.
      I imagine people find basketball and baseball hard to get into because it's nearly impossible to go to all of the games and it's so unnecessary when more than half of the league enters playoffs/wildcard like in basketball.

    • @gustavorocha8643
      @gustavorocha8643 4 місяці тому

      @@donaldjgumpofficial5754 yeah, it makes sense. NFL seasons have a good amount of regular season games imo.

  • @JM-tj5qm
    @JM-tj5qm 6 місяців тому +26

    I don't think they "solved basketball" a lot of rules make defending too hard, if bigs could camp in the paint and hand checking was allowed you wouldn't see so many free layups and players would need to work harder for a shot.
    The thing about the 3 is probably true, players are just better at shooting from deep now. I would experiment with removing the 3 point line in the off season or something, see how players adapt to that.

    • @cfl4286
      @cfl4286 6 місяців тому +2

      This. Wasn’t it luka that something like “the defender can’t stay in the lane for more than 3 seconds. Just because of that you can have 10 extra points.” ?

    • @slowjocrow6451
      @slowjocrow6451 5 місяців тому

      Make 3 point line worth only 1 point, and the paint worth 3. Then remove the 3 second defence rule

    • @alphinmesa-ks7st
      @alphinmesa-ks7st 4 місяці тому

      I wouldn't get rid of the 3 point line I'd just make defense more of a priority again by adjusting certain rules to allow that

  • @richdouglas2311
    @richdouglas2311 6 місяців тому +18

    The 3-point shot originated in the ABL in 1960, back when shooters hit barely more than a third of their shots from the field. Even when the NBA introduced it, it was still a low-percentage play meant to raise excitement. But shooters kept getting better and stronger, so the 3-pointer became so routine it's the preferred play. Dunks and layups are still good because they're really high-percentage plays. What this killed was the mid-range jumper and post play. So, now you have a game that is mostly boring (set shots) and a little bit exciting (drives to the hole).
    When there was no trey, the premium was on getting the ball close to the basket--the closer you were the higher percentage of shots you made. This emphasized post and other inside play.
    Time to lose the trey. (Even moving it back will simply delay the issue, not solve it.) Put a premium on play-making and getting the ball inside.
    Get rid of the crossover dribble (actually a double dribble), ticky-tack fouls (often initiated by the shooter), and traveling.
    Time outs are boring in every sport. But basketball is the only major sport that allows a team to call a time out while the ball is in play. Imagine a quarterback avoiding an inevitable sack by calling time out!
    As for these in-season tournaments, they're stupid. The problem isn't the schedule; it's the game play.

    • @kono5933
      @kono5933 6 місяців тому +3

      I aged 15 years just by reading this stone age comment

    • @richdouglas2311
      @richdouglas2311 6 місяців тому

      Hopefully, pushing you past the life expectancy of a troll.@@kono5933

    • @DonSMDT
      @DonSMDT 6 місяців тому

      Idk I like the in season tournament and it's clear the players and fans take it seriously

    • @thirteenblackbirds4189
      @thirteenblackbirds4189 6 місяців тому

      I agree with most of what you said but how is a crossover a double dribble? I do think that if they called more travelling violations most if the game would be played on the sideline trying to get the ball in bounds instead of running plays. I swear some of these guys you could call a first down in football with how far they go while not dribbling.

    • @TheOnion12
      @TheOnion12 6 місяців тому

      @@DonSMDTbecause they get paid a ton. Each player gets 200k if they win.

  • @stilgar2007
    @stilgar2007 4 місяці тому

    I checked out in the mid aughts, when there were the horrible Suns/Spurs and Heat/Mavericks post-season series. Now when I catch some playing footage, I have no desire to come back.

  • @vinniechan
    @vinniechan 6 місяців тому +5

    there are too many regular season games with no stakes
    back in the days it didnt matter if you win 50 games someone might win the division title and take your play off spot so you have to compete and win every game

    • @roboninja3194
      @roboninja3194 6 місяців тому +1

      Well when 20 of 30 teams now make the playoffs it means the regular season loses importance. The 1st season of the play-in the Hornets and Spurs got in with 33 wins. Yea that 1st season was shortened but still. The next season the Spurs got in with 34 wins and the Lakers missed out by 1 game with 33 wins. Last season was a bit better as everyone who got in had 40 wins. But that Spurs team in 2021-22 was 34-48. You shouldn't be in the playoffs when ya basically lose 50 games.

  • @unnwas
    @unnwas 6 місяців тому +18

    They need to extend the line, remove corners and remove the defensive 3 second rule. It would improve the game significantly

    • @alphinmesa-ks7st
      @alphinmesa-ks7st 4 місяці тому

      Don't you think extending the 3 point line would make floor spacing already more of an issue than it already is for players to defend? especially for players like Steph curry who really can bomb it from 50 feet away..you'd be making it easier for players to score or get to the paint

    • @unnwas
      @unnwas 4 місяці тому

      @@alphinmesa-ks7st Sure, but how many Stephen Currys are there in the league? You could argue kids would adapt eventually but there's gotta be a limit

  • @magicmerl7749
    @magicmerl7749 6 місяців тому +3

    I don't think players are more athletic now. I think the NBA selects more for skills like shooting and passing, and less on individual athleticism nowadays.

  • @HolyBucketsYT
    @HolyBucketsYT 6 місяців тому +1

    Interior shots: 3pts
    Exterior shots: 4pts
    Free throws: 2pts
    Interior shots are now worth a larger portion of exterior shots (.75 vs. .66) and focus resumes on getting the BEST shot (closest to basket) rather than the highest value shot (open 3).
    Also, fouling is heavily penalized since you could end up with an extra point; but give players more leeway with fouls for more physical games.

  • @p.alterego3424
    @p.alterego3424 6 місяців тому +8

    relegation. make a second tier with less money. now every game counts. then you cant play without intensity bcs, even a mid table team is in risk to get into a downward spiral to relegation :)

    • @AugustasSuliauskas
      @AugustasSuliauskas 6 місяців тому +2

      Now that's an idea! But one that NBA will never implement haha

    • @nomooon
      @nomooon 6 місяців тому

      That's the best counter against intentional tanking

  • @tasarasable
    @tasarasable 6 місяців тому +33

    If you draw the 3p line at 6.75 and allow 3sec in the paint for the defensive player, then you can go back. The problem is that if you limit the space and increase contacts there is a lot of officiating and calls that fans can^t understand and a significant drop off pace...Running and scoring is fun to watch and you pay for that even if you re not a huge basketball fan. For instance here in Greece there are more soccer fans that watch and comment on nba games than the euroleague which is much more difficult to watch.

  • @alextschopp3535
    @alextschopp3535 6 місяців тому +1

    They should add a dedicated defender on each team. A sixth player that has to stay on their half of the court. Also, eliminate the 3 second rule and 3 pointer. This would cut down on scoring and make baskets that are scored more exciting. Also, the dedicated defender and only the dedicated defender can punch other players right in the face.

  • @scottmunson2917
    @scottmunson2917 3 місяці тому

    For fun I'd like an exhibition where we stood the current rules on their head: 3 points for a dunk, 2 points for a mid-range shot, 1 point for shots outside the arc. They don't give extra points for kicking longer field goals in football. Why not reward a team for getting the ball closer to the goal? I think this is a very modest proposal. Cordially, Jonathan "Gulliver Never Travels" Swift

  • @scott4825
    @scott4825 6 місяців тому +12

    They have changed the rules and a big difference is that defenders aren't allowed to touch you any more, so those 3 point shots aren't defended. In the past 30 years, free throw shooting has improved by 3 percent, and a lot of that can probably attributed to guys back then going to the free throw line after getting clocked (hit hard) on the court. It's a different game.

  • @PharSyde6ix
    @PharSyde6ix 6 місяців тому +14

    I miss 90's basketball!

  • @collossuss10
    @collossuss10 6 місяців тому +2

    Get rid of defensive 3 seconds rule and remove the restriction zone.

  • @BoddickerOCP
    @BoddickerOCP 6 місяців тому +1

    Similar issue with baseball where analytics have turned the game into only two true outcomes the homerun or the strikeout.

  • @jasonkazazis
    @jasonkazazis 6 місяців тому +7

    the fact that rap music is playing during the game in the NBA is just insane to me lmao, how can you be so uninterested in the game that you have to listen to background music?

  • @declup
    @declup 6 місяців тому +3

    It's like basketball has stolen all of (world) football's points. The two sports gotta get their act together and share some of the love. 'Cause, right now, basketball's too many points are boring, and soccer's too few goals are boring.

    • @parkercrossland410
      @parkercrossland410 6 місяців тому

      Basketball games should average 200 points per game. Dropping 110 should be a great offensive game.

  • @bucknasty69
    @bucknasty69 6 місяців тому +3

    Get rid of the 3 second rule, get rid of the 3 pointer, and bring back hand checking.

    • @Conservativemanusa
      @Conservativemanusa 3 місяці тому

      Hear me out,let's make it real fun...no fouls...think about it,maybe I'm crazy.

  • @GokageBlack
    @GokageBlack 6 місяців тому +2

    I could see some teams shifting more inside-out if truly have a transcendent big or slasher but I think the mid-range is done. Math just doesn't make sense unless it is a last resort and youre a god from that spot (which Im sure new players arent practicing)

  • @arde5849
    @arde5849 6 місяців тому +3

    I can't stand players just casually pull up for a contested 3 and proceed to brick. The foul calls also makes the game boring because defense is unplayable and players take decades to shoot their free throws.

  • @igoreca221
    @igoreca221 6 місяців тому +12

    I would say that removing the defensive 3 second rule, changing the 3 pt line to don't have corner 3's and being more selective on foul calls could fix a little bit.

    • @filiperufino303
      @filiperufino303 6 місяців тому +9

      Removing the corner 3s is probably the worst idea I have ever seen

    • @igoreca221
      @igoreca221 6 місяців тому +1

      @@filiperufino303 just throwing ideas man, but taking away the shot that has the most value alongside a layup and making it just a 2pt, would reduce the spacing and we wouldn’t see that much easy layups, I’ve seen way worse ideas than this one that i said, but okay it’s your opinion

  • @DefaultModeNetwork
    @DefaultModeNetwork 6 місяців тому

    Totally agree. Two proposed rule changes. First get rid of corner 3, it would not reward the drive, kick to corner play we see over and over. Second, foul while shooting a three only gets 2 FT. Easy to implement and would result in good changes.

  • @JustaGuy_Gaming
    @JustaGuy_Gaming 4 місяці тому +2

    Hard to see a way to fix it. Half the problem is the rules, but the other is the fact the Ref's don't enforce the rules we already have like traveling, fouls etc properly. There seems to be a massive "if it would look cool on a highlight, it's okay" rule when it comes to basketball.

  • @hatermoko1074
    @hatermoko1074 6 місяців тому +5

    1. Make the 3pt line further away. It is OP at the current distance
    2. Take away corner 3 or adjust the court width to make the corner 3 farther.

    • @perfectbeat
      @perfectbeat 6 місяців тому

      This is something to consider.

  • @skyfuller7535
    @skyfuller7535 6 місяців тому +6

    To be fair the game that you are highlighting has the 1 and 2 offense in the league and the 30th and 27th defense. Sure this game is easy to pick apart and spacing is getting dominant, but contrary to literally the first thing you said the top 3 players in the league are probably Jokic, giannis, and Embid. Saying these players are hard to find in the league is weird when they are the best players. Also, the two teams that had this ridiculous game, are both not that good. Show me a Celtics nuggets game with similar "problems" and then I will begin to agree with you.

    • @alandpost
      @alandpost 6 місяців тому

      Agreed. I can't understand how anyone could find the Nuggets starters boring.

  • @reggiejenkins6458
    @reggiejenkins6458 6 місяців тому +1

    I was born in 1982. In the 90’s it was just big ass dudes like Karl Malone or shaq ramming their butt into a dude while dribbling backwards in order to toss the ball in from 2 feet away.
    This happened every game, all game. I’ll take a bunch of quick threes over that any day.
    Just let the game get rougher again. I miss that. It was shots tougher and made the game immensely more interesting. LeBron and crew browbeat them into babying everyone and it’s really hurt the game.

  • @aobane841
    @aobane841 6 місяців тому +1

    Bring back hand checking, allow for more physicality, extend the 3-pt line, remove the 3-sec rule.

  • @imulippo5245
    @imulippo5245 6 місяців тому +18

    I would like to see the whole damn three point line going much further, and close corners by extending it to sidelines.

    • @adamprice3466
      @adamprice3466 6 місяців тому +1

      Yes make the court wider to get rid of that easy ass corner 3

    • @omarholder9036
      @omarholder9036 6 місяців тому +1

      Doesn't matter. Players have already future proofed any extension of the 3pt line into inefficacy because they already are capable of taking the shot from 6+ feet behind the line.

    • @adamprice3466
      @adamprice3466 6 місяців тому +2

      @@omarholder9036
      No, the corner 3 is still today the highest percentage 3 pointer like it has always been because it's shorter and closer to the goal.

    • @omarholder9036
      @omarholder9036 6 місяців тому +2

      @@adamprice3466 I never said it wasn't. I'm just saying extending it is not likely to make much of a difference. Players already have range beyond that. They will adjust to the new distance pretty easily, and more importantly, widening the court makes closing out to the corner to actually affect a shot near impossible from the key. The last thing the game needs is more spacing, defenses already struggle to cover these pick and roll, drive and kick offenses

    • @adamprice3466
      @adamprice3466 6 місяців тому

      @@omarholder9036
      They don't have range beyond that because the percentages drop. The corner 3 has always been significantly higher percentage. Yeh everybody is shooting from Curry range now but very few are making them at similar rates to Curry.

  • @andrewcuda51
    @andrewcuda51 6 місяців тому +3

    It's not just that the regular season is too long. It's that every win and loss means the same no matter who your opponent is. In this new era of load management, why go max effort against a superior team when you can save the wear and tear on your players for easier wins? That's why regular season college basketball is more exciting to watch. A win against a superior team is worth WAY more than an easy win against an inferior opponent--and a bad loss to a bad team can cause a good college team to fall a great distance in the rankings. That's why I'm in favor of a ranking system in the NBA similar to (but less subjective than) college basketball's.

    • @zaveionchambers3809
      @zaveionchambers3809 5 місяців тому

      I think it’s opposite in the NBA a lot of teams and players don’t go all out some nights against teams with bad records the same way they would against a playoff team

  • @rankyb8088
    @rankyb8088 6 місяців тому +1

    Its like when your un your driveway hucking up shots. Of course some go in

  • @iddoboomgaard353
    @iddoboomgaard353 2 місяці тому +1

    I wonder what would happen if you'd take away the 3-pointer, while enforcing offensive fouls more strictly.
    To be fair this'd be a huge change to the game, but it would stop rewarding long range shots, only leaving them as "easier" because players don't have to contend with as strong of a defense.

  • @simonanderson4858
    @simonanderson4858 6 місяців тому +15

    Defensive effort is higher than ever but the offense is just too good. Defenders have too much ground to cover now and officiating is offensively slanted.
    Rules around initiating contact are the first that should be addressed. Get rid of the 3 second rule. Would also like them to tighten dribbling rules so players can't act like running backs in between bounces. The defense needs to have a chance

    • @AugustasSuliauskas
      @AugustasSuliauskas 6 місяців тому +6

      Give defense a chance would be a nice slogan lol. Thanks for the comment!