Thank you all very much for suggesting the oil playoffs. Here's the list of oils tested the oil series (in no particular order): Pennzoil Ultra Platinum: amzn.to/34pgEll Mobil 1 Annual Protection: amzn.to/31m3bcq Lucas: amzn.to/3iYkvdg Kendall: amzn.to/3hfPa5r Liqui Moly: amzn.to/31l8eJY Amazon Basics: amzn.to/32ef4jL Quaker State: amzn.to/2EgE7uv Amsoil: amzn.to/3aNZYoV Castrol: amzn.to/3jhgYan Red Line: amzn.to/34kkV9T Royal Purple: amzn.to/31l9ehc Schaeffer's Supreme 9000: amzn.to/3goLaOK Valvoline: amzn.to/2YrJGgq Motul 8100: amzn.to/3l9AfMw WalMart: www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Tech-High-Mileage-SAE-5W-30-Motor-Oil-5-Quarts/17134875
Hi..nice job but you are missing FYP.. I realize it may not have the distribution area of old brands, but the subjective opinion from users is it is a very high quality low price product. Run it , especially the pure synthetic and conventional, so we can compare to Valvoline, Rotella gas truck, Mobil 1, Supertech, etc. .thx
5 qts of Super Tech performed so close and can be had for about the same price as 1 qt of Red Line which makes Super Tech the best value for most people.
Yes and no. This testing is not really a test of how the oils will perform in a machine for 3, 6, 12, 23 years of use. That said given how short of a time frame most people own their car's before buying another one and the way most people use their cars any name brand oil will do. Keeping the oil changed, filters changed, fluids topped up between oil changes and keeping all of the paths for dirt sealed up tight is key! Redline is not targeted to your average consumer and their daily driver. Redline is a boutique oil. Redline really shines when people drive their cars like they just stole them daily or when the daily driver is also taken to the track for track day or extreme off roading etc... I have a 1995.5 Tacoma that is 23 years old, a 2003 Camry that is 17 years old, a 2007 Camry 13 years old and they are all as clean inside as a factory new engine. and show no signs of wear even on timing chains and sprockets. They burn no oil discernible on dipstick and weep so little oil that you have to look hard to find the little weep spots. It would be silly for the average person that buys for 3-5 years and trades in or leases for 2 years over and over again to spend big on boutique oils for daily driving.
@@smitty3973racing : The old adage "You get what you pay for" holds true for a great many endeavors, but it still has its exceptions. I use SuperTech oil on my cars (most recently a 2014 Camaro V6). My brother says I'm crazy for using that "cheap Walmart oil", but every informed mechanic says that I'm doing right and saving money.
Not Telling Supertech is a decent oil, plenty of notably better oils for just a little more money though. Like Pennzoil Platinum. Red Line is a great oil, just because some find it isn’t worth it “for them” doesn’t mean it isn’t worth it, period.
I'll admit I was skeptical of "cheap oils" like Amazon Basics and SuperTech. But then I saw the pricing, and watched your testing between AB and Mobil1, and that sold me. Been using SuperTech in most of my customer's vehicles, and including my own. I even prefer their filters over Fram's when I go to Walmart to buy all of it. When you can change oil for less than $20, that's a value.
And in other news, a man died today while undergoing quadruple bypass surgery. Hospital staff say the surgeon involved suddenly became distracted with his phone and was heard uttering 'Project Farm' over and over...
Nice. My 86 5.0 has 330,000 on it and still rips, though the body is a total rot-bucket. I only used Castrol GTX 20/50 in it w/ a 4K mi change interval. I plan on putting the motor in an FFR Cobra.
@@ProjectFarm Anyone know when they switched to Warren ? Many years ago the Super Tech oil listed Shell as their supplier on the price tags in the store.
Warren Distributions I think knows what they are doing as they make the formulas. I think we all get too worked up over Oil, I tend to use Mobile One but damn I might just go with Amazon Basics (I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart jut a thing I have).
@@steveragsdale2358 I use it in everything I own, from Shell: "Introducing a heavy-duty engine oil that performs extremely well in both diesel and gasoline engines, allowing customers that own both diesel and gasoline vehicles to consolidate lubricants for added simplicity in use and storage. Designed to exceed API CK-4 specs, Shell Rotella® T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 Full Synthetic Diesel Engine Oil with Triple Protection Plus™ technology uses fully synthetic base oils plus advanced additive technology to provide protection against wear, deposits and oil breakdown plus better fuel economy performance of up to 2.8% in diesel engines compared to an SAE 15W-40 oil. This unique combination helps to deliver excellent equipment protection, long engine life and maintain viscosity control under high temperatures. For Every Hardworking Need Shell Rotella® T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 Full Synthetic Diesel Engine Oil is uniquely suited for mixed fleets which run both diesel and gasoline vehicles as it meets both API CK-4 and API SN performance standards. With its wide range of specifications, and approvals from many of the world’s leading engine makers, it is ideal for on or off-road applications. Many original equipment manufacturers, both heavy duty diesel, diesel pickups and gasoline pickups and cars recommend an API SN 5W-30 engine oil."
My brother who is a ASE certified mechanic, said “spend your money on an oil filter rather than the oil.” He indicated that most (synthetic) motor oil was the same, but that filters were wildly varied. A video testing oil filters would be very handy.
@@Mewzyc you’re absolutely right. The way I understand it is, spend your money on high quality oil filter and then the oil is where you can save money.
The difference being not even close in tolerance and control. But it doesn't matter since project farm isn't a lab and isn't selling a product to business where liability is a huge factor. It's great for what it is.
I just switched to Super Tech full syn because of this video. Your zero bias, zero opinion approach yields real world results that are hard to argue with. Very well done, keep up the good work! 👍
Yes, I just started buying super tech and was curious to know how it stacks up against the more expensive brands. I guess keep saving that money. Thanks for the video.
@@ProjectFarm -Thank you for test proof. Super Tech 10W 30 Full Synthetic, changed every 5,000 miles. 2004 W-22 {22,000#} 34' 8.1 gas motor home with tow. Mountain western states, high altitude with added tow load, necessitates high revs often in high heat. 110,000 miles. Uses 1 qt per 1,000 mi... as always.
Don't forget that where redline shines is stability and durability, meaning it will perform pretty similar to new with a load of thousands of miles on it that's where good and bad get separated.
I've used super tech for years with no problems oil usually good to 5k with their regular oil. I'm using synthetic super tech this time lol glad it's gotten a good review. This will probably be my go to oil for my third gen 4runner
I've been using supertech oil since the 90's. Great oil. They use to come in different bottles then. All my cars went over 300k miles with no engine oil related issues. Key is to change your oil when youre suppose to, better than buying the top brand oil going for $10 a quart. 5 quart jug of supertech synthetic is $15 lol can't beat it
I switched from Valvoline maxlife FS to Supertech High mileage FS. I would normally burn about 1 qt per 3k miles with Valvoline. After switching to Supertech, it's a quart every 6k miles, sometimes even less! Great oil, incredible price. Thanks for the video verifying.
Warped Perception, thank you very much! You've got an amazing channel and I always look forward to your videos! I recommend your channel to everyone. Thanks again for watching the video!
What great confirmation; my oil for 18 years- super tech full synthetic has just proven itself. I'm sold again. Will never buy any other oil for my cars or diesel truck. Thanks for your hard work.
I have a high performance 1997 Chevy S-10 and you showed me that Red Line catastrophically failed the wallet test. Thanks for exposing their product as hype.
Been using supertech for years. From my experience, it works just as well as oils that cost twice as much. I use conventional oil and change it about every 4k. Got almost 300k on a V10 Ford truck without any issues
Great job ! I've been using Super-tech for many years, and have been satisfied. This video puts my mind at ease knowing that my engines have not suffered noticeably.
I wish he had some way to show oil breakdown over time through multiple cycles. That ZDDP in Redline should really give it the edge over many other brands as its a requirement with flat tappet engine designs to prevent premature wear.
ZDDP isn't the be all-end all. Some studies show it to be worse with certain ratio's, & gets even more complicated when mixed with certain brands/formulas.
Make the oil container of the Lubricity tester aluminum. Put it on an accurate warmer-hotplate. Heat the oil to simulate actual running engine temps. That could also test the thermal breakdown I was speaking about before. Love your videos, Todd!
Good point. Oils have heat activated anti-wear additives that give oils better film strength at higher than ambient temperatures in the neighborhood of 230F, which is the engine oil operating temperature in the oil pan. However, some oils film strength such as regular Mobil 1 synthetic and Mobil 1 Annual protection degrade at higher temperatures as they approach 300F, which is the temperature some of the hottest parts of the engine like cylinder bore achieve. See Amsoil's link to four-ball wear test conducted at 302F: dextrous-lubricant.com/amsoil/PDF/g3115.pdf
I know this is an old video but they are always very interesting! Should do the lubricity test with cooked oil also. Still waiting for a motorcycle 20w-50 shoot out! Keep up the good work!
For the price difference alone I think the Supertech is the winner here ... Great video as usual PF.... Would love to see Pennzoil platinum on deck to shutdown the competition..!!
Just picked up (2) 5 quart containers of Super Tech Full Synthetic yesterday because of this video....$15 each vs $38 for Mobil 1......I call it a 2 for 1 sale... Thank you!
I live in New England. My mind was instructing my fingers to type $28 and my fingers weren't cooperating typing $38. Tractor Supply sells it anywhere from $28-$30 for 5 quarts. My apologizes!
On the NissanClub forum, I think it was, I read about Super Tech vs. Mobil 1, @Mad Adam. At about 140k miles a regular user of Super Tech sent in his oil to Blackstone labs. His engine was doing great. The additive package in the Super Tech is actually very weak in comparison to more expensive brands like Mobil 1 and Castrol, to name a few. I paid for a few tests before the extra funds being spent just didn't seem worth it any more. I have the same engine as the other gentlman, I had at the time about 40k less miles on my engine. My engine didn't show as good as his. He probably was a more responsible driver who took it easier. Very low additive packages must be fine for people who can keep taking it easy. If you push an oil harder, farther, carry big loads like I have, those kinds of things, then more protection is more needed for you. Some people's take away from this could be that Super Tech is still better. I just think that Super Tech is good enough if it's not pushed.
If you have a Fleet Farm near you, they run deals on Citgo Full Synthetic for $2 a quart, or Citgo Blended for $1 a quart. API certified, SN Plus, etc.
The tests performed here do not cover a complete review of the oil . It does not even mention TBN, which is what keeps the internals of your engine from rusting out. SuperTech doesn't even come close to Redline when it comes to these types of additives.
@@elpcmaster TBN doesn't stop rust, engine blocks are usually Aluminum which physically can't rust, SuperTech's TBN is within a totally fine rating, and higher TBN doesn't even mean a better oil to begin with as excess TBN can result in excess ash production. An oil's primary purpose is lubricity, which SuperTech does really well at, and detergent suspension of contaminants, which all meet manufacturer specs and you're literally talking about minuscule particles in difference between most of these modern detergent packages (if they meet all standardized testing). Redline has excess ZDDP which is why it has a higher TBN, but modern engines don't even need ZDDP and if anything that can result in excess sulfur production; if you have a classic car, absolutely you need it, but if you have a modern Civic or Camry or whatever no, you don't, and SuperTech meets specs all the same and will still warranty and care for a vehicle for hundreds of thousands of miles.
Hey bro Walmart owes you a fortune. I started buying Super Tech because of your videos. I just bought a 5 quart container for $26. I used to get this oil for $17. It is basically the same price as all the other oils. I'm pretty sure, the uptick of price is due to your videos, no doubt.
I love the playoff bracket. You have balls challenging 100 years of oil fanboyism :D You'll probably get tons of hate on your outcomes, but don't let it deter you from finding the truth!
U gotta be kidding us......Supertech out of the bottle and even cooked and beat both the Red-Line samples! At the end of the day..... There technical/chemical specs also play a big role! Absolutely love your video's and tests, etc. Never a boring moment for sure. The cold test is always extremely interesting to me. If I don't have immediate oil circulation in the dead of winter in Canada, I DONT want it! By all means, compare 5W-30 Mobile 1 Full Synthetic, Supertech Full Synthetic and Amsoil Full Synthetic. 👍👍👍
YEAH, ME TOO, the info most don't have: Walmart tells name brand manufacturers to supply the same product with their (walmart brand name) or Walmart will not distribute the "Name brand" many people don't realize how huge walmart's market share is so the companies usually fold and do it (meaning their brand names "like Supertech" etc., are generally the exact same product as that labeled Mobil or chevron, etc., I have this on authority from a long time friend who was a high-level executive for a major supplier in a certain industry (nameless here) and he told me this is Walmart's SOP, and since they are usually the largest distributor most companies comply.
@@miketonon7946 Yeah pretty much the same it's just Fords "formula". I'm pretty sure its bottled at the same location. For the price of Supertech and the quality that you get I'll stick to that for now.
James St. Clair No, it isn’t. Super tech in most areas is blended by Warren Oil Products. Motorcraft is a ConocoPhilips product. Don’t listen to William Martin, who is speaking in generalities not specifics
I wonder if you can test the cushioning effects of different oils. One of Redline's claim-to-fame was the added cushioning of their trans/gear oil. A simple rig where a a tray has an aluminum plate on the bottom, covered by a fixed thin depth of oil, then a spring loaded arm smacks the plate through the oil? Deformation/gouging of the plate reveals relative cushioning? No matter how hard/fast the plate is hit there will always be oil between the striker and the plate so how it dissipates the energy of the striker should be consistent/repeatable. Something along these lines anyways. Of course there's more complicated ways it could be done but a small sacrificial plate keeps it cheap and simple.
I dont think that would quite duplicate what they are talking about.. which is probably marketing hype. All oil has this cushioning effect as long as the viscosity doesn’t break down, which he is testing pretty thoroughly with heat and cold
@@headlesnorseman701 It's two objects at different speeds contacting each other and the measurement of how harsh that shock contact is. Unless something is wrong, primary wear/damage on gears comes from the transition not the meshing. The shock of abrupt contact and how well that is mitigated. Obviously all oil has this effect just like all oil lubricates. The question is how they compare to each other and if there's a measurable difference or if it's just marketing hype.
What you're talking about is film strength. You're trying to measure how strong the surface tension of the oil is, effectively. That is effectively shown by the bearing test that Project Farm does, although I'm sure you could get more specific than that.
Do gears ever get enough space or gap between surfaces for this to be an actual thing? I'm really only familiar with motorcycle transmissions which are constant mesh where everything is always under tension. I'm pretty ignorant as far as the automotive world.
I had always used top tier synthetic brands for oil changes I do myself in my VW Jetta. Money was a little bit tight recently so I was able to afford 5w30 synth high mileage Super tech. Better than old oil I suppose right? . ... I was a little worried at first but after reading several reviews, forums and videos like this one I think I'll be just fine. A little peace of mind I suppose. Thanks for the video!
All supertech engine treatments such as oil additives , fuel system cleaners, etc. I really want to see a comparison between lucas oil stabilizer vs supertechs.
Wawonas..... Castrol is good but remember you can specify ANY OIL that Walmart carries and they will use it. AND you can specify the EXACT filter you want.
Most chain stores like Wal-Mart or Canadian tire u can purchase whatever oil u want off the shelf in the store and just pay the Labour to have the oil changed.
Great review! I have been using SuperTech oil in all my vehicles for a long times now knowing that it is compatible with the brand names motor oils. Now, finally got prove to back it up and saving me money!! Thanks again.
I love all of the money I've saved over 20 years of using Super Tech Full Synthetic in all of my vehicles. No oil related problems in over 20 years now. I am still waiting to see the comparison of Amazon and Super Tech. I'll bet it's the same.
I've used SuperTech 5W-30 in my 2008 Infiniti G35x (naturally aspirated) 3.5L engine and had an oil analysis performed at 80,000 miles by Blackstone Labs. The results were excellent, with recommendations that I could actually extend my change interval. However, since I tend to over-maintain my cars, the results may be due to changing oil every 5000 miles over the life of the car. Still, at roughly $17 for 5 quarts, the oil performed as well as more expensive brands. (Until SuperTech (Walmart) offers a 0W-40 oil that meets Audi and Mercedes specifications, I will use Mobil 1 in my TT and SL500. For my other cars, SuperTech will be my choice.) On a side-note, I’ve used SuperTech oil filters as well. Visual comparison has them looking a LOT like the Mobil 1 filters.
@jason thrash ....5000 miles for oil and filter change is probably the best compromise interval point to change oil....no need to do this every 3000 miles. The other advantage is that you can index this with your odometer. For example.....change at 10,000.....15,000.... 20,000 miles, etc....no need for those goofy stickers on your windshied either.
@jason thrash I like it, especially the "clean oil theory" part of your comment. It's not just how well the oil holds up, it's also about getting the gunk out of their more often so it doesn't start baking into the engine permanently.
Very nice video as always. One thing I have to point out though is that line of Redline oil is not approved for any of the standards that are listed on the bottle. The increased amount of zinc in it alone would make it not able to be approved for the latest API standards. Every new API standard requires less and less zinc to comply. Redline does have a line that is "approved" by the API and the rest which is their Professional series (Group III\IV base stocks). That Redline oil is an excellent oil made of Group V Ester base stocks which are the best base stocks available, and I am seriously considering using it!
I use it all the time in my car it's really good stuff and there's no reason to pay more for the name brands. Some people like to throw their money away lol.
I have used Red Line 30W in my boat for the past 16 years since I bought it new. I change the oil annually and it comes out looking pretty much like it did when I put it in the year before. My boat still runs like new. Thank you for doing these tests as it gives me something to think about. But in the end, I will stick with Red Line as the boat was too expensive for me to consider saving a few bucks to use anything else.
I just stocked up on the bulk pricing savings at Walmart's website. My Gen1 Honda Ridgeline takes 4.5qts of 5w-20.. so I bought a 9-pack of 5 qt's of Super Tech full synthetic high mileage for about $13 each. I also bought 10 Super Tech filters (which are supposedly Wix rebrands or Wix licensed manufactured 10k mile synthetic compatible filters) for $3 a piece. The result.. my fully synthetic high mileage oil changes will cost about $16.50 each all in, quite an astonishing price. Did my first change this weekend and the 3.5l V6 runs smooth as butter. Thanks for the insightful video!!
Can't thank you enough for doing this test. I see that "SuperTech" brand on sale all the time at good old WalMart. After watching this, I am going to change my car's oil and use Super Tech. It is way way cheaper than all the other brands. Today is 10/1/21 and I've been told oil is going to skyrocket. Great Test you did, I did not see the purpose of the "Flow" test, but that might have something to do with how well the oil get's into the upper cylinders? Sorry I wrote a book. Keep the tests coming. This is how you find out how good stuff really is!
Supertech is made by 1 of 3 suppliers-Exxon-Mobile, Pennziol and Warren Oil. While great in everyday cars and Trucks, I would be hesitant use it in a high dollar high performance car.I did not expect Supertech to do so well.
Thank you. You answered a question I’ve been wanting to know the answer too for a long time. I read a couple comments and super tech got pretty good reviews. Once again thank you for this very informative test.
Maybe Warren Distribution (Super Tech) vs Warren Distribution (Amazon Basics) vs Warren Distribution (Costco/Kirkland) isn't happening because all three are chemically the same with the same additives and @project farm was asked kindly not to point that out. Chemical analysis is ever so revealing... Maybe? Eh? Plausible, even though PF isn't paid...
@Moist Gnome Maybe it would be best to let him answer. I believe he still reads comments to his videos. From a corporate point of view, the manufacturer may have an interest in protecting their multiple clients. Not protecting them might lead to higher prices for consumers by discouraging stores from carrying their product. It's a whole trickle down possibility. Having managed at an electronics company that made rebranded/rebadged products for other companies as well, I have had to ask for reviewers to refrain from doing head-to-head competitions. We did not pay for our reviews either.
Great job once again! Thank you. I just started using the Amazon Oil 0w-40 in my 133k mile N54 BMW engine. Before that I used the Mobil 1 European formula. Had my valve cover off at 132k and a BMW tech told me it looked brand new under there still.
One can change oil more frequently with SuperTech for a lower price than keeping Redline in the motor for 2x as long. And I have Redline in my car now, I'm rethinking my approach.
You should get a heat spreader to put on your griddle so you do not have to keep shuffling the samples. A half-inch thick sheet of aluminum would be a good spreader.
Chef here. Aluminum would suck the heat right out and make it much worse. Aluminum is horrible at holding heat. That why it's not used in the kitchen anymore. That's why radiators, heater cores, thermo fins all use aluminum. If he where to put anything to evenly retain heat it should be a one inch stainless steal. Which that little grittle would not be able to handle keeping hot. It would be like trying to boil 5 gallons of water on it. The heat would escape through the surface faster then it can be produced.
@@richardwaldron222 No, that is not how the physics of heat transfer works. Metal does not "suck" heat. Heat is transferred from a higher temperature object to lower temperature objects or surroundings by some combination of conductance, convection, and radiation. The relevant properties of a metal in the application I suggested are thermal conductivity and heat capacity, and to a lesser extent, emissivity. Aluminum has high thermal conductivity, which is why it makes a good heat spreader. It is also why it is used for heatsinks. The heat conducts rapidly through the metal, quickly equalizing temperatures and minimizing temperature differentials. I said that emissivity is only slightly relevant because most shiny metal surfaces have a low emissivity and thus lower heat lost due to radiation. For a heatsink, that is obviously not desirable (and aluminum emissivity can be raised by anodizing) but finned heatsinks are cooled primarily by convection so emissivity is not an important factor. The last of which is a distraction from the actual topic of an aluminum heat spreader on a griddle. Lower emissivity is better for that application, which is exactly what you have with shiny metal. But more important is high thermal conductivity so that the plate will have nearly the same temperature across the surface, with minimal hot spots. Heat capacity will determine how long it will take to heat the plate to temperature -- naturally it will take some time to heat a chunk of metal up, and the higher the heat capacity, the longer it will take. Bottom line is that an aluminum plate would do an excellent job of eliminating hot spots on that griddle, and there will be no significant reduction in maximum temperature that can be reached as compared to the griddle surface. The only real negative is that it will take longer for the aluminum to heat up to the desired temperature than the griddle surface itself if there were no aluminum plate.
@@XJWill1 what tokin means is aluminum transfers the hotspots really easily. For constant smooth heat in a professional kitchen you use stainless, cast iron, or ceramic
Read the label. If it says SN 10W-30 then it is. If it says SA, don't. If you have no options (no parts store, no Walmart) go to a chain supermarket or gas station-minimart if you have to, and pay the marked price. Beats buying a new engine or, more likely, a new vehicle entirely. SA oil in an emergeny is only for filling your vehicle to the add mark until you can get to where you can buy some real oil. Different products have different specification. Dollar General oil will probably match the performance of the same weight and grade under any other label. It comes from a know refiner. I have researched were motor oil comes from. It might surprise you.
@DeepForest Dollar Tree had a brand called SMB @$1 a pint. I would have used it in an old import, either the one I had then or the one I have now. But they changed brands, and I can't be sure the product they now have. My strange plan with my current vehicle is to put in a 15,000 mile filter and drain and fill every 2,000 miles with 10W-30 dino. The filter is hard to get to, so why fight Mother Nature?
Places like Dollar General and gas station are why PQIA petroleum quality institute has its shame list. It’s ALWAYS THE SAME. Always an oil brand you never heard of. As often as not that name even sounds like one of the big names in some way or alludes to power, speed, racing ect. Avoid those like the plague buy one with the correct SAE stamp and change with regularity and you are all good.
@@drizler Generally you are correect, but I know how to research things. Dollar Tree at one time had a brand I would have used. They have new one now which also has the SAE stamp on it, but I cannot verify the source of it, so I will not use it. All of this got started with some pushback against the oil snobs and their advocacy of synthetic oil. I called synthetic a "vanity product" and said I was going to use SMB 10W-30 in my vehicle to prove the point. When SMB was replaced with another product, I dropped out. Nothing wrong with synthetic either except that it is expensive, but if you stay within the specifications of the products you are using and use the correct ones for your vehicle you are not going to have any oil related problem. If using synthetic encourages someone to remember their maintenance schedule, that's good. But it shouldn't be used in old engines that may have leaks because synthetic does leak more. Better to use conventional and change it regularly unless you don't care about the drips. After all, the Earth is going to be swallowed by the Sun anyway in five billion years. There goes everything!
I've been changing my friends' and family's oil for years and have bought Quaker State for the most part because it wasn't as cheap as SuperTech and I don't know anything about oil. Thanks for the video!
I used quaker state one time in my girlfriends 2017 Nissan Rogue with 30k on it (it was on clearance). The oil got dark so fast, started looking milky because moisture somehow was getting into the oil. Drained that crap out and put Supertech in... Still golden color few months later.
I've used Walmart oil for a little over 8 years now. Never had any problems with any of my engines. I also started using Supertech filters. For normal day to day driving with my cars I can honestly say it works!!!
I decided to give super tech a try on my 04 tahoe with 170k miles on it and I noticed a performance increased. I now use it with my ram 140k miles and brand new 2020 kia. I DYI oil change on all 3 cars with the price I would pay for just 1 oil change being done at the shop. Overall im very satisfied with the price and quality. Thank you for doing this review!
I’ve seen you run tests on numerous oils and fuel sources, but what about the ignition source? What spark plugs are best to use? OEM, Iridium, Platinum and E-3?
Spark plugs are like people.. They either work or they don't. Iridium is better only really because the electrodes don't wear, but they cost 3 times as much. E3 is a gimmick.you still only get one arc from the 3 prongs. Those that claim they made their engines run better probably used them to replace dirty or bad plugs.
@@patdennis3751 I know a very competent engineer who believed the same as you until I spilled a small amount of my spark plug knowledge into UA-cam about everything I know from experience and testing. I do think that e plugs are bull too. I haven't tried them, but the few who swear by them other than the people you mentioned who replaced garbage plugs tend to be racers. Hi powered engines. Proven additional horses. I own no such engines so I think it'd waste my time. 3-15 hp on a 600 hp ride is like .5 hp to 2.5 hp on many 4 and 6 cylinders. That's not enough difference to prove it was the spark plug. Iridium out performs new platinum spark plugs. 1 of the reasons? Since iridium has dominated the market they don't make platinum as well as they used to. They lose their spark plug gap, which sometimes harms performance.
Dylan My experience with E3 They work great for about 6 weeks then I had problems with them just stop firing. If you send them to E3 they will replace them. For me, I just use Autolites change every year and have great luck with them, I'm talking about the cheap ones. I have tried Halows, $12 each, platinum Autolites about $4 each and I get just as good fuel mileage with $2 cheap Autolites. Like I said though I replace them every year.
Revisiting the Super Tech videos because of the increasing prices of motor oil. The Kirkland brand and even the 6-quart packs of Mobil 1 oil are much more expensive than I remember pre-COVID.
@@scopes78 I was thinking the same. It's like the oil was used. We don't see old fluid/oils tested much outside of their composition from Blackstone labs. I did a few Blackstone lab tests and I talked about the results on UA-cam. Thats a composition test not a, how it protects so much at that point even if it is great data. It's not the same. I think you get what I'm saying.
Thank you all very much for suggesting the oil playoffs. Here's the list of oils tested the oil series (in no particular order):
Pennzoil Ultra Platinum: amzn.to/34pgEll
Mobil 1 Annual Protection: amzn.to/31m3bcq
Lucas: amzn.to/3iYkvdg
Kendall: amzn.to/3hfPa5r
Liqui Moly: amzn.to/31l8eJY
Amazon Basics: amzn.to/32ef4jL
Quaker State: amzn.to/2EgE7uv
Amsoil: amzn.to/3aNZYoV
Castrol: amzn.to/3jhgYan
Red Line: amzn.to/34kkV9T
Royal Purple: amzn.to/31l9ehc
Schaeffer's Supreme 9000: amzn.to/3goLaOK
Valvoline: amzn.to/2YrJGgq
Motul 8100: amzn.to/3l9AfMw
WalMart: www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Tech-High-Mileage-SAE-5W-30-Motor-Oil-5-Quarts/17134875
How testing pro honda shaft drive oil against the other brands ?
I would LOVE to have Mag-1 added to the list/test. I have had great results so far with Mag-1.
wal mart has changed oil suppleries ?
Kirkland?
Hi..nice job but you are missing FYP.. I realize it may not have the distribution area of old brands, but the subjective opinion from users is it is a very high quality low price product. Run it , especially the pure synthetic and conventional, so we can compare to Valvoline, Rotella gas truck, Mobil 1, Supertech, etc. .thx
NO WAY YOU DID THE VIDEO I SUGGESTED LAST WEEK! THANK YOU!!!
Thank you for requesting this one!
@@ProjectFarm what about dixiecox brand :(
lucky kevin i always ask if he will review dixiecox :(
I suggested it too recently. I bet a lot of people wanted to see the results.
@@clintwhite4372 i know man dixiecox is an incredible brand with awesome results
I can never get tired of watching your fantastic testing videos! A++
Thank you very much! Your latest "free energy" video awesome! Thanks again for the positive comment and I'm looking forward to your next video!
@@ProjectFarm Todd's and @electronicsNmore's videos are awesome. looking forward to BOTH of your guys' next vids.
Thank you very much Jimmy!
@@ProjectFarm yours are the best performed at home tests for motor oil. I'm looking forward to the next contenders. 👍🏽
Agreed!
I joined patreon exclusively to support Project Farm.
I do not regret that decision one bit.
Thank you very much for supporting the channel!!
me too! LMAO
Same here lol
You give me the heeby jeebies hahaha
5 qts of Super Tech performed so close and can be had for about the same price as 1 qt of Red Line which makes Super Tech the best value for most people.
Thank you for the feedback
Yes and no. This testing is not really a test of how the oils will perform in a machine for 3, 6, 12, 23 years of use. That said given how short of a time frame most people own their car's before buying another one and the way most people use their cars any name brand oil will do. Keeping the oil changed, filters changed, fluids topped up between oil changes and keeping all of the paths for dirt sealed up tight is key! Redline is not targeted to your average consumer and their daily driver. Redline is a boutique oil. Redline really shines when people drive their cars like they just stole them daily or when the daily driver is also taken to the track for track day or extreme off roading etc... I have a 1995.5 Tacoma that is 23 years old, a 2003 Camry that is 17 years old, a 2007 Camry 13 years old and they are all as clean inside as a factory new engine. and show no signs of wear even on timing chains and sprockets. They burn no oil discernible on dipstick and weep so little oil that you have to look hard to find the little weep spots. It would be silly for the average person that buys for 3-5 years and trades in or leases for 2 years over and over again to spend big on boutique oils for daily driving.
Let's see...50% price increase for 1.85% performance increase? Sorry Red-Line....you lose.
@@smitty3973racing : The old adage "You get what you pay for" holds true for a great many endeavors, but it still has its exceptions. I use SuperTech oil on my cars (most recently a 2014 Camaro V6). My brother says I'm crazy for using that "cheap Walmart oil", but every informed mechanic says that I'm doing right and saving money.
Not Telling Supertech is a decent oil, plenty of notably better oils for just a little more money though. Like Pennzoil Platinum. Red Line is a great oil, just because some find it isn’t worth it “for them” doesn’t mean it isn’t worth it, period.
I'll admit I was skeptical of "cheap oils" like Amazon Basics and SuperTech.
But then I saw the pricing, and watched your testing between AB and Mobil1, and that sold me. Been using SuperTech in most of my customer's vehicles, and including my own. I even prefer their filters over Fram's when I go to Walmart to buy all of it. When you can change oil for less than $20, that's a value.
Fock yeah
Thanks for your videos always enjoy and very informative
I stopped everything I was doing when I got a new video notification from Project Farm.
Great job as always. Good to see the playoffs have begun. 😎👍🏼
Thank you very much!
+99.... Yep. There are a few guys I sub to where I will drop what I'm doing to check it out and PF is one of them.
I stop everything as well, lol
And in other news, a man died today while undergoing quadruple bypass surgery. Hospital staff say the surgeon involved suddenly became distracted with his phone and was heard uttering 'Project Farm' over and over...
My 05 mustang v6 used supertech since day 1. It now has 356,000 miles and still going with the same engine. Good maintenance = long engine life.
Impressive! That's a lot of miles
my 94 5.0l mustang has 215k and super tec the 4 yrs i've had it. works great.
my man...fuckin ahhh
Nice. My 86 5.0 has 330,000 on it and still rips, though the body is a total rot-bucket. I only used Castrol GTX 20/50 in it w/ a 4K mi change interval. I plan on putting the motor in an FFR Cobra.
2015 chevy impala limitd ltz, v6 VVT D.I....supertech 5w-30 full synthetic and a mobil1-212A OIL FILTER. runs quiter than a mouse in a cell block!!
Totally changed how I feel about Super Tech, well done!
Thank you
@@ProjectFarm Anyone know when they switched to Warren ?
Many years ago the Super Tech oil listed Shell as their supplier on the price tags in the store.
For me, something worth trying.
I wish you were my neighbor. Honestly, I watch everyone of your videos. In my opinion you are one of the best on UA-cam.
Thank you!
I think i would get tired of hearing a lawn mower run for hours a day!
I'll second that. Great content.
Lol I was just about to comment about the lawn mowers too
Same here! I would surely hang out with him frequently.
I've been using Super Tech full synthetic for almost 20 years. No oil related issues so far. That really speaks for itself. Nuff said. Cool video!! 😎
Thank you!
Warren Distributions I think knows what they are doing as they make the formulas. I think we all get too worked up over Oil, I tend to use Mobile One but damn I might just go with Amazon Basics (I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart jut a thing I have).
J.T. Cooper I just switched all my cars and lawn mower and ATV over to super tech oil read lot of good things about and can't beat the price
Same here, along with ST filter.
PDB Long oh yeah I also use there filters too
I’m glad you made a bracket for the oil shootout.
Thank you!
I recommended this on the Amsoil, royal purple video! Should prove to be very interesting.
@@ProjectFarm Sorry if I missed it, but who made the Sweet 16 bracket? Shell Rotella T6 make the cut?
@@fukimoto Isn't Shell Rotella T for large none gas trucks? I know it's great for air cooled V twin motorcycles.
@@steveragsdale2358 I use it in everything I own, from Shell: "Introducing a heavy-duty engine oil that performs extremely well in both diesel and gasoline engines, allowing customers that own both diesel and gasoline vehicles to consolidate lubricants for added simplicity in use and storage. Designed to exceed API CK-4 specs, Shell Rotella® T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 Full Synthetic Diesel Engine Oil with Triple Protection Plus™ technology uses fully synthetic base oils plus advanced additive technology to provide protection against wear, deposits and oil breakdown plus better fuel economy performance of up to 2.8% in diesel engines compared to an SAE 15W-40 oil. This unique combination helps to deliver excellent equipment protection, long engine life and maintain viscosity control under high temperatures. For Every Hardworking Need Shell Rotella® T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 Full Synthetic Diesel Engine Oil is uniquely suited for mixed fleets which run both diesel and gasoline vehicles as it meets both API CK-4 and API SN performance standards. With its wide range of specifications, and approvals from many of the world’s leading engine makers, it is ideal for on or off-road applications. Many original equipment manufacturers, both heavy duty diesel, diesel pickups and gasoline pickups and cars recommend an API SN 5W-30 engine oil."
My brother who is a ASE certified mechanic, said “spend your money on an oil filter rather than the oil.” He indicated that most (synthetic) motor oil was the same, but that filters were wildly varied.
A video testing oil filters would be very handy.
Thanks for the suggestion.
The MOST important filter is the Air filter!
Why not stick with OEM oil filter if you are not extending your interval?
@@Mewzyc you’re absolutely right. The way I understand it is, spend your money on high quality oil filter and then the oil is where you can save money.
Motorcraft has great filters.
For a non-professional lab you do a great job testing using methods that I think everyone can understand !
Thank you!
The difference being not even close in tolerance and control. But it doesn't matter since project farm isn't a lab and isn't selling a product to business where liability is a huge factor. It's great for what it is.
Another great test. I have been using Supertech in my truck for the past 40K miles with no issues. Keep up the great work.
Thank you!
I just switched to Super Tech full syn because of this video. Your zero bias, zero opinion approach yields real world results that are hard to argue with. Very well done, keep up the good work! 👍
Thank you!
Yes, I just started buying super tech and was curious to know how it stacks up against the more expensive brands. I guess keep saving that money. Thanks for the video.
Thank you! It's a great product.
@@ProjectFarm -Thank you for test proof. Super Tech 10W 30 Full Synthetic, changed every 5,000 miles. 2004 W-22 {22,000#} 34' 8.1 gas motor home with tow.
Mountain western states, high altitude with added tow load, necessitates high revs often in high heat. 110,000 miles. Uses 1 qt per 1,000 mi... as always.
Don't forget that where redline shines is stability and durability, meaning it will perform pretty similar to new with a load of thousands of miles on it that's where good and bad get separated.
I've used super tech for years with no problems oil usually good to 5k with their regular oil. I'm using synthetic super tech this time lol glad it's gotten a good review. This will probably be my go to oil for my third gen 4runner
I've been using supertech oil since the 90's. Great oil. They use to come in different bottles then. All my cars went over 300k miles with no engine oil related issues. Key is to change your oil when youre suppose to, better than buying the top brand oil going for $10 a quart. 5 quart jug of supertech synthetic is $15 lol can't beat it
Dude...you're the best! What an awesome test...guess I'll be using Supertech synthetic from now on. Goodbye, Mobil1 and Pennzoil Platinum!
Thank you
Pennzoil Platinum actually came in second to only Amsoil. If I can't use Amsoil, I'd use Pennzoil Platinum.
How can a channel be more perfect, says the song names when the song starts. Wow this channel is PERFECT. Thank you for making these videos :-)
Thank you!!
@@ProjectFarm Welcome :-)
I switched from Valvoline maxlife FS to Supertech High mileage FS. I would normally burn about 1 qt per 3k miles with Valvoline. After switching to Supertech, it's a quart every 6k miles, sometimes even less! Great oil, incredible price. Thanks for the video verifying.
Impressive results!
010steveo Valvoline conventional took my 98 Buick to 311k before it ate a camshaft with 3k mike oil changes. Can’t be that bad imo.
I don't know how you'd test it, but I would love to see a test of gunk build up and how well oils remove the build up.
The timelapse of the oil going from clear to tar was very satisfying ..lol
Warped Perception, thank you very much! You've got an amazing channel and I always look forward to your videos! I recommend your channel to everyone. Thanks again for watching the video!
I just want to say this is by far my favorite content on UA-cam .
Thank you so much for the service you provide to us gear heads.
Thank you!
@Michael Thompson Check out Fuzzydiceprojects s10 blazer series, you’ll love it guaranteed
If you do this every 4 years, you can call it *THE OILYMPICS.*
Sounds greasy
That’s pretty slick
To many people would grease the judges
It'd probably be a good idea too cause the formulations change
Hope it doesn't get rigged
What great confirmation; my oil for 18 years- super tech full synthetic has just proven itself. I'm sold again. Will never buy any other oil for my cars or diesel truck. Thanks for your hard work.
Thank you!!
I just wanna point out I suggested a series comparing oil brands against each other about a month or two ago. He really does read these comments
He does and he completes the tests extremely well!
I replied on a few of the comments trying to encourage him to do Red Line, I was really happy when I got this E-Mail!
Best channel out there with no sponsors just real world testing 😀
I recently suggested he test the Walmart oil, and here it is. Yep, he reads, he acknowledges, he tests. Love this channel.
@Ultra CNC Liar! Many other You Tubers do too.
I have a high performance 1997 Chevy S-10 and you showed me that Red Line catastrophically failed the wallet test. Thanks for exposing their product as hype.
It is indeed very expensive. Did it cause any harm to the S-10?
The extra zinc in Redline is heat activated. I am not sure if a test like that was performed.
@@elpcmaster unless he is drag racing the truck or doing truck pulls, using supertech, a decent filter and changing it on time is the best bet.
Right now Red Line isn't happy with Project Farm. Better watch your back. Big oil is probably looking at you.
@@springfield03sniper true. No need for Redline unless you have a flat tappet cam like I do.
Been using supertech for years. From my experience, it works just as well as oils that cost twice as much. I use conventional oil and change it about every 4k. Got almost 300k on a V10 Ford truck without any issues
Thank you! That's a lot of miles!
me too, only synthetic at 6000 miles.
@@patriciareynolds2729 02 Tahoe 500k miles!!
Me too change every 4k
ive been using supertech oils for years in my fords and have never had a problem. ive even used there oil in my dirtbikes. good stuff🤙🏻
Thank you
Ftdgig
Great job ! I've been using Super-tech for many years, and have been satisfied. This video puts my mind at ease knowing that my engines have not suffered noticeably.
Thank you! It's a great oil
Wow.... I am really disappointed with Red Line in this test. Super Tech on the other hand did better than I would have imagined.
I wish he had some way to show oil breakdown over time through multiple cycles. That ZDDP in Redline should really give it the edge over many other brands as its a requirement with flat tappet engine designs to prevent premature wear.
ZDDP isn't the be all-end all. Some studies show it to be worse with certain ratio's, & gets even more complicated when mixed with certain brands/formulas.
just because supertech did well doesn't mean redline did poorly.
@@F0XD1E its 2x the cost of course it did poorly
Redline shouldn't be used isndaily drivers. It has too much zinc. It's oil made for hot rods or classic cars with flat tappet cams.
Make the oil container of the Lubricity tester aluminum.
Put it on an accurate warmer-hotplate. Heat the oil
to simulate actual running engine temps.
That could also test the thermal breakdown I
was speaking about before.
Love your videos, Todd!
Thank you for the video idea!
Good point. Oils have heat activated anti-wear additives that give oils better film strength at higher than ambient temperatures in the neighborhood of 230F, which is the engine oil operating temperature in the oil pan. However, some oils film strength such as regular Mobil 1 synthetic and Mobil 1 Annual protection degrade at higher temperatures as they approach 300F, which is the temperature some of the hottest parts of the engine like cylinder bore achieve. See Amsoil's link to four-ball wear test conducted at 302F: dextrous-lubricant.com/amsoil/PDF/g3115.pdf
Lab tests are done @100C. Oil shouldn't go over that for more than a very short period using the vehicle as intended.
I know this is an old video but they are always very interesting! Should do the lubricity test with cooked oil also.
Still waiting for a motorcycle 20w-50 shoot out! Keep up the good work!
For the price difference alone I think the Supertech is the winner here ... Great video as usual PF.... Would love to see Pennzoil platinum on deck to shutdown the competition..!!
Thank you!
@@ProjectFarm Let me just echo that request.
Same here.
Also want to see Penzoil platinum tested (made from natural gas)
Supertech would be the clear value choice at 50% of the cost of redline.
Super tech surprised me! Very good. Not enough of a difference to really matter that much. Good stuff bro. 👍
I'll use it in the future for sure. Thank you
SuperTech vs AmazonBasics sounds like a great idea! 👍
Thank you!
They are the same oils.
That review would be Spider-Man vs Spider-Man
ua-cam.com/video/a9DWGtXpYUc/v-deo.html skip to 5:48. Amazon basic high mileage synthetic. This cant be the same oil as super tech
Project Farm please but in mobile1 as a basic standard please
Just picked up (2) 5 quart containers of Super Tech Full Synthetic yesterday because of this video....$15 each vs $38 for Mobil 1......I call it a 2 for 1 sale...
Thank you!
Thank you!
NightForce 1 where do you live ? In Socal Oc is around 24$ for mobil 1
ST is 14 here and m1 is 26,
Please don't compare apples to oranges to sensationalize.
Mobil 1 is $22.
That expensive Mobil 1 is their top ONE YEAR LIFE product.
I live in New England.
My mind was instructing my fingers to type $28 and my fingers weren't cooperating typing $38. Tractor Supply sells it anywhere from $28-$30 for 5 quarts.
My apologizes!
Super tech vs. Amazon...to solve the mystery if they are the same oil!
Thank you for the video idea!
I’ll be waiting for this video!!!
They are the same, look up the numbers... Warren produces both
walmart just buys whatever's cheapest, sometiems it's pennzoil
On the NissanClub forum, I think it was, I read about Super Tech vs. Mobil 1, @Mad Adam. At about 140k miles a regular user of Super Tech sent in his oil to Blackstone labs. His engine was doing great. The additive package in the Super Tech is actually very weak in comparison to more expensive brands like Mobil 1 and Castrol, to name a few. I paid for a few tests before the extra funds being spent just didn't seem worth it any more. I have the same engine as the other gentlman, I had at the time about 40k less miles on my engine. My engine didn't show as good as his. He probably was a more responsible driver who took it easier.
Very low additive packages must be fine for people who can keep taking it easy. If you push an oil harder, farther, carry big loads like I have, those kinds of things, then more protection is more needed for you.
Some people's take away from this could be that Super Tech is still better. I just think that Super Tech is good enough if it's not pushed.
Holy crap we need to start using Supertech!!! Cheapest synthetic around.
If you have a Fleet Farm near you, they run deals on Citgo Full Synthetic for $2 a quart, or Citgo Blended for $1 a quart. API certified, SN Plus, etc.
Thank you!
The tests performed here do not cover a complete review of the oil . It does not even mention TBN, which is what keeps the internals of your engine from rusting out. SuperTech doesn't even come close to Redline when it comes to these types of additives.
@@elpcmaster TBN doesn't stop rust, engine blocks are usually Aluminum which physically can't rust, SuperTech's TBN is within a totally fine rating, and higher TBN doesn't even mean a better oil to begin with as excess TBN can result in excess ash production. An oil's primary purpose is lubricity, which SuperTech does really well at, and detergent suspension of contaminants, which all meet manufacturer specs and you're literally talking about minuscule particles in difference between most of these modern detergent packages (if they meet all standardized testing).
Redline has excess ZDDP which is why it has a higher TBN, but modern engines don't even need ZDDP and if anything that can result in excess sulfur production; if you have a classic car, absolutely you need it, but if you have a modern Civic or Camry or whatever no, you don't, and SuperTech meets specs all the same and will still warranty and care for a vehicle for hundreds of thousands of miles.
Citgo is majority owned by PDVSA of Venezuela.
You are supporting that Government by buying it.
Something to consider.
My 240k mile Accord has been running Super tech synthetic since 70K miles and runs like a clock so I can't complain.
Hey bro Walmart owes you a fortune. I started buying Super Tech because of your videos. I just bought a 5 quart container for $26. I used to get this oil for $17. It is basically the same price as all the other oils. I'm pretty sure, the uptick of price is due to your videos, no doubt.
I’ve noticed that too. What gives?!
Cooked and cold oil lubricity test would be interesting I think.
Great recommendation!
I second that!
Never thought about a cold lubricity.. That would be cool.
makes sense!
Like a cold start wear test! I LIKE!
Once again, nice video. You should compare Mobil 1 synthetic oil to Liqui Moly synthetic and Motul.
Thank you for the video idea!
liqui moly molygen would be nice
Throw Amsoil Euro in there with Motul 8100 xcess. Would be a great comparison if top end synthetics. 👍🏻
I think liqui moly beats mobile 1 by very little I seen other test and they make good stuff
I realy want to know i motul is any goog.
I love the playoff bracket. You have balls challenging 100 years of oil fanboyism :D You'll probably get tons of hate on your outcomes, but don't let it deter you from finding the truth!
"Frampa" will in the comments section somewhere. I can smell the moth balls and peppermint candy.
Project farm, if you ever decide to make an almanac/book with all your test results I would be giving them out as Christmas gifts.
Thank you!
Produce a bracket.. Recieve shit. Just like in regular sports.
People act like the formulas for oil have always been the same, they change often.
U gotta be kidding us......Supertech out of the bottle and even cooked and beat both the Red-Line samples! At the end of the day..... There technical/chemical specs also play a big role!
Absolutely love your video's and tests, etc. Never a boring moment for sure.
The cold test is always extremely interesting to me. If I don't have immediate oil circulation in the dead of winter in Canada, I DONT want it!
By all means, compare 5W-30 Mobile 1 Full Synthetic, Supertech Full Synthetic and Amsoil Full Synthetic. 👍👍👍
Thanks and you are welcome!
I have been using Supertech for years and for $17 for 5 quarts I'll take it over any high dollar brand.
I use Walmart oil and never had a problem. I've ran From NY to Miami round trip and never needed to add oil
YEAH, ME TOO, the info most don't have: Walmart tells name brand manufacturers to supply the same product with their (walmart brand name) or Walmart will not distribute the "Name brand" many people don't realize how huge walmart's market share is so the companies usually fold and do it (meaning their brand names "like Supertech" etc., are generally the exact same product as that labeled Mobil or chevron, etc., I have this on authority from a long time friend who was a high-level executive for a major supplier in a certain industry (nameless here) and he told me this is Walmart's SOP, and since they are usually the largest distributor most companies comply.
@@miketonon7946 Yeah pretty much the same it's just Fords "formula". I'm pretty sure its bottled at the same location. For the price of Supertech and the quality that you get I'll stick to that for now.
@@dmmusicmusic 💯
James St. Clair No, it isn’t. Super tech in most areas is blended by Warren Oil Products. Motorcraft is a ConocoPhilips product.
Don’t listen to William Martin, who is speaking in generalities not specifics
I've been using the SuperTech for a few years and I'm sold on how well it works.
Thank you!
I wonder if you can test the cushioning effects of different oils. One of Redline's claim-to-fame was the added cushioning of their trans/gear oil. A simple rig where a a tray has an aluminum plate on the bottom, covered by a fixed thin depth of oil, then a spring loaded arm smacks the plate through the oil? Deformation/gouging of the plate reveals relative cushioning? No matter how hard/fast the plate is hit there will always be oil between the striker and the plate so how it dissipates the energy of the striker should be consistent/repeatable. Something along these lines anyways. Of course there's more complicated ways it could be done but a small sacrificial plate keeps it cheap and simple.
Thank you for the video idea!
I dont think that would quite duplicate what they are talking about.. which is probably marketing hype. All oil has this cushioning effect as long as the viscosity doesn’t break down, which he is testing pretty thoroughly with heat and cold
@@headlesnorseman701 It's two objects at different speeds contacting each other and the measurement of how harsh that shock contact is. Unless something is wrong, primary wear/damage on gears comes from the transition not the meshing. The shock of abrupt contact and how well that is mitigated. Obviously all oil has this effect just like all oil lubricates. The question is how they compare to each other and if there's a measurable difference or if it's just marketing hype.
What you're talking about is film strength. You're trying to measure how strong the surface tension of the oil is, effectively. That is effectively shown by the bearing test that Project Farm does, although I'm sure you could get more specific than that.
Do gears ever get enough space or gap between surfaces for this to be an actual thing? I'm really only familiar with motorcycle transmissions which are constant mesh where everything is always under tension. I'm pretty ignorant as far as the automotive world.
I had always used top tier synthetic brands for oil changes I do myself in my VW Jetta. Money was a little bit tight recently so I was able to afford 5w30 synth high mileage Super tech. Better than old oil I suppose right? . ... I was a little worried at first but after reading several reviews, forums and videos like this one I think I'll be just fine. A little peace of mind I suppose. Thanks for the video!
Same here bro it’s good to see that am not the only one cheers
It's good stuff don't worry
Richie Gillum that oil is just fine. Always buy a top shelf oil filter
I would be more worried about driving a vw than what oil you purchased
Yupp Oil is great oil filter though needs to be the top tier
I love this video idea, this stuff is why I support your channel on Patreon
Thank you very much for the support!
Stumbling onto this channel a year ago was the best thing, always great vids! Keep it up!
Thank you very much!
Agree 👍
All supertech engine treatments such as oil additives , fuel system cleaners, etc. I really want to see a comparison between lucas oil stabilizer vs supertechs.
Thank you for the video idea!
The main difference I've seen is how thing supertech is compared to lucas
I use the fuel treatment comes in same bottle as Lucas but a tad darker, I noticed no difference using between the two brands 👍🏻
I love your videos. You put a massive amount of time and work into them.
Ironic to think that Walmart oil change service uses Castrol GTX instead of supertech as default.
Castrol GTX is a good oil! Scotty Kilmer loves that oil!
Wawonas..... Castrol is good but remember you can specify ANY OIL that Walmart carries and they will use it. AND you can specify the EXACT filter you want.
Most chain stores like Wal-Mart or Canadian tire u can purchase whatever oil u want off the shelf in the store and just pay the Labour to have the oil changed.
Probably get a better price/co-op advertising deal with Castrol.
Jay Lee does that change the pricing of the oil change?
The amount of effort you put into these videos is amazing. Well done! (As always)
Thank you
Loving the March Madness bracket of oil performance testing!
Thank you!
Great review! I have been using SuperTech oil in all my vehicles for a long times now knowing that it is compatible with the brand names motor oils. Now, finally got prove to back it up and saving me money!! Thanks again.
Thank you!
I love all of the money I've saved over 20 years of using Super Tech Full Synthetic in all of my vehicles. No oil related problems in over 20 years now. I am still waiting to see the comparison of Amazon and Super Tech. I'll bet it's the same.
Great point! Great oil for sure. Thank you
I've used SuperTech 5W-30 in my 2008 Infiniti G35x (naturally aspirated) 3.5L engine and had an oil analysis performed at 80,000 miles by Blackstone Labs. The results were excellent, with recommendations that I could actually extend my change interval. However, since I tend to over-maintain my cars, the results may be due to changing oil every 5000 miles over the life of the car. Still, at roughly $17 for 5 quarts, the oil performed as well as more expensive brands. (Until SuperTech (Walmart) offers a 0W-40 oil that meets Audi and Mercedes specifications, I will use Mobil 1 in my TT and SL500. For my other cars, SuperTech will be my choice.) On a side-note, I’ve used SuperTech oil filters as well. Visual comparison has them looking a LOT like the Mobil 1 filters.
@jason thrash ....5000 miles for oil and filter change is probably the best compromise interval point to change oil....no need to do this every 3000 miles. The other advantage is that you can index this with your odometer. For example.....change at 10,000.....15,000.... 20,000 miles, etc....no need for those goofy stickers on your windshied either.
@jason thrash I like it, especially the "clean oil theory" part of your comment. It's not just how well the oil holds up, it's also about getting the gunk out of their more often so it doesn't start baking into the engine permanently.
got to call you out. you don't drive a Infinity G35x, you drive a Red Jetta
How much does your Supertech oil filters run?
@@DENicholsAutoBravado about $3 for the supertech filters. 5 quarts of full synthetic is almost $16
Very nice video as always. One thing I have to point out though is that line of Redline oil is not approved for any of the standards that are listed on the bottle. The increased amount of zinc in it alone would make it not able to be approved for the latest API standards. Every new API standard requires less and less zinc to comply. Redline does have a line that is "approved" by the API and the rest which is their Professional series (Group III\IV base stocks). That Redline oil is an excellent oil made of Group V Ester base stocks which are the best base stocks available, and I am seriously considering using it!
Very Good for older Hot rods & built forged engines
I wouldn't buy a dog intill I saw what PROJECT FARM had to say about it. These are great and every video is concise and informative. Thanks
I use SuperTech all the time. Good stuff. Good price.
Thanks for watching!
I use it all the time in my car it's really good stuff and there's no reason to pay more for the name brands. Some people like to throw their money away lol.
Same here , I just hide the packaging so my truck doesn’t see it. It hasn’t let me down so far
Great tests as always!
I'd love to see the "cooked" oils go back through the wear tests to see what (if any) changes occur. 👍
Great recommendation!
I have used Red Line 30W in my boat for the past 16 years since I bought it new. I change the oil annually and it comes out looking pretty much like it did when I put it in the year before. My boat still runs like new. Thank you for doing these tests as it gives me something to think about. But in the end, I will stick with Red Line as the boat was too expensive for me to consider saving a few bucks to use anything else.
Thanks for sharing!
I just stocked up on the bulk pricing savings at Walmart's website. My Gen1 Honda Ridgeline takes 4.5qts of 5w-20.. so I bought a 9-pack of 5 qt's of Super Tech full synthetic high mileage for about $13 each. I also bought 10 Super Tech filters (which are supposedly Wix rebrands or Wix licensed manufactured 10k mile synthetic compatible filters) for $3 a piece. The result.. my fully synthetic high mileage oil changes will cost about $16.50 each all in, quite an astonishing price. Did my first change this weekend and the 3.5l V6 runs smooth as butter. Thanks for the insightful video!!
Thank you
I was waiting for the Supertech review! Man of his word! Looking forward to Amazon Vs Supertech!
Thank you for the video idea!
Love that you made a tournament bracket for all the comparisons.
Thank you!!
I would like to see Shell Rotella T6 added in the comparison tests.
Thank you for the video idea!
T6 is some damn good shit. We run a 10-40 in our Passat 10,000 miles and Black Stone says to push to 20k.. Not comfortable so its coming out.
Started using in my 335i
No oil loss and much smoother than Amsoil. I still change around 4500
Many car brand oils like bmw and porsche are made by shell.
Shell Rotella T6 is great for forced induction vehicles. Works really well in my 2005 S60R.
Can't thank you enough for doing this test. I see that "SuperTech" brand on sale all the time at good old WalMart. After watching this, I am going to change my car's oil and use Super Tech. It is way way cheaper than all the other brands. Today is 10/1/21 and I've been told oil is going to skyrocket. Great Test you did, I did not see the purpose of the "Flow" test, but that might have something to do with how well the oil get's into the upper cylinders? Sorry I wrote a book. Keep the tests coming. This is how you find out how good stuff really is!
Supertech is made by 1 of 3 suppliers-Exxon-Mobile, Pennziol and Warren Oil. While great in everyday cars and Trucks, I would be hesitant use it in a high dollar high performance car.I did not expect Supertech to do so well.
Thanks for the feedback.
I ran it in my supercharged coyote motor for a while. Never had issue.
@@CalebsCars it’s probably made in the same exact place they just slap different labels on em lol
Thank you. You answered a question I’ve been wanting to know the answer too for a long time. I read a couple comments and super tech got pretty good reviews. Once again thank you for this very informative test.
Thank you!
Still very interested in seeing Amazon Basics vs. SuperTech since they're both made by Warren!
Thank you!
@@ProjectFarm Can you conduct an experiment between Amazon Basics vs. SuperTech to solve our curiosity?
Kirkland/Costco oil is by Warren too. Has a Super Tech vs. Amazon been done yet?
Maybe Warren Distribution (Super Tech) vs Warren Distribution (Amazon Basics) vs Warren Distribution (Costco/Kirkland) isn't happening because all three are chemically the same with the same additives and @project farm was asked kindly not to point that out.
Chemical analysis is ever so revealing...
Maybe? Eh? Plausible, even though PF isn't paid...
@Moist Gnome Maybe it would be best to let him answer. I believe he still reads comments to his videos.
From a corporate point of view, the manufacturer may have an interest in protecting their multiple clients. Not protecting them might lead to higher prices for consumers by discouraging stores from carrying their product. It's a whole trickle down possibility.
Having managed at an electronics company that made rebranded/rebadged products for other companies as well, I have had to ask for reviewers to refrain from doing head-to-head competitions. We did not pay for our reviews either.
Find myself sitting up in bed watching all project farms oil races! Why!! Can't help it! Great Job as always amazing
Thank you!
Great job once again! Thank you. I just started using the Amazon Oil 0w-40 in my 133k mile N54 BMW engine. Before that I used the Mobil 1 European formula. Had my valve cover off at 132k and a BMW tech told me it looked brand new under there still.
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i have mechanic shop and changing oil in Iran i found your videos very useful . thank you god bless you
Thanks so much!
Todd, now please lubricity test the cooked oil 👍
Thank you for the video idea!
These test results are excellent. I've always used Supertech in old beaters, but never in nicer cars. Now, I'm gonna rethink that.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
One can change oil more frequently with SuperTech for a lower price than keeping Redline in the motor for 2x as long. And I have Redline in my car now, I'm rethinking my approach.
Thanks for the feedback.
"Pick Up On This" by the Mini Vandals sounds like a royalty-free version of "Lazy Eye" by the Silversun Pickups
You should get a heat spreader to put on your griddle so you do not have to keep shuffling the samples. A half-inch thick sheet of aluminum would be a good spreader.
Thank you for the recommendation!
@@ProjectFarm that would mean retesting I think
Chef here. Aluminum would suck the heat right out and make it much worse. Aluminum is horrible at holding heat. That why it's not used in the kitchen anymore. That's why radiators, heater cores, thermo fins all use aluminum.
If he where to put anything to evenly retain heat it should be a one inch stainless steal.
Which that little grittle would not be able to handle keeping hot.
It would be like trying to boil 5 gallons of water on it. The heat would escape through the surface faster then it can be produced.
@@richardwaldron222
No, that is not how the physics of heat transfer works. Metal does not "suck" heat. Heat is transferred from a higher temperature object to lower temperature objects or surroundings by some combination of conductance, convection, and radiation.
The relevant properties of a metal in the application I suggested are thermal conductivity and heat capacity, and to a lesser extent, emissivity.
Aluminum has high thermal conductivity, which is why it makes a good heat spreader. It is also why it is used for heatsinks. The heat conducts rapidly through the metal, quickly equalizing temperatures and minimizing temperature differentials. I said that emissivity is only slightly relevant because most shiny metal surfaces have a low emissivity and thus lower heat lost due to radiation. For a heatsink, that is obviously not desirable (and aluminum emissivity can be raised by anodizing) but finned heatsinks are cooled primarily by convection so emissivity is not an important factor.
The last of which is a distraction from the actual topic of an aluminum heat spreader on a griddle. Lower emissivity is better for that application, which is exactly what you have with shiny metal. But more important is high thermal conductivity so that the plate will have nearly the same temperature across the surface, with minimal hot spots. Heat capacity will determine how long it will take to heat the plate to temperature -- naturally it will take some time to heat a chunk of metal up, and the higher the heat capacity, the longer it will take.
Bottom line is that an aluminum plate would do an excellent job of eliminating hot spots on that griddle, and there will be no significant reduction in maximum temperature that can be reached as compared to the griddle surface. The only real negative is that it will take longer for the aluminum to heat up to the desired temperature than the griddle surface itself if there were no aluminum plate.
@@XJWill1 what tokin means is aluminum transfers the hotspots really easily. For constant smooth heat in a professional kitchen you use stainless, cast iron, or ceramic
I've been very happy with SuperTech oils for several years now, both 2 and 4-stroke.
Thanks for the feedback..
Id love to see a test on The cheapest oils from Dollar General.:)
Great test idea!
Read the label. If it says SN 10W-30 then it is. If it says SA, don't. If you have no options (no parts store, no Walmart) go to a chain supermarket or gas station-minimart if you have to, and pay the marked price. Beats buying a new engine or, more likely, a new vehicle entirely. SA oil in an emergeny is only for filling your vehicle to the add mark until you can get to where you can buy some real oil.
Different products have different specification. Dollar General oil will probably match the performance of the same weight and grade under any other label. It comes from a know refiner. I have researched were motor oil comes from. It might surprise you.
@DeepForest Dollar Tree had a brand called SMB @$1 a pint. I would have used it in an old import, either the one I had then or the one I have now. But they changed brands, and I can't be sure the product they now have. My strange plan with my current vehicle is to put in a 15,000 mile filter and drain and fill every 2,000 miles with 10W-30 dino. The filter is hard to get to, so why fight Mother Nature?
Places like Dollar General and gas station are why PQIA petroleum quality institute has its shame list. It’s ALWAYS THE SAME. Always an oil brand you never heard of. As often as not that name even sounds like one of the big names in some way or alludes to power, speed, racing ect.
Avoid those like the plague buy one with the correct SAE stamp and change with regularity and you are all good.
@@drizler Generally you are correect, but I know how to research things. Dollar Tree at one time had a brand I would have used. They have new one now which also has the SAE stamp on it, but I cannot verify the source of it, so I will not use it. All of this got started with some pushback against the oil snobs and their advocacy of synthetic oil. I called synthetic a "vanity product" and said I was going to use SMB 10W-30 in my vehicle to prove the point. When SMB was replaced with another product, I dropped out.
Nothing wrong with synthetic either except that it is expensive, but if you stay within the specifications of the products you are using and use the correct ones for your vehicle you are not going to have any oil related problem. If using synthetic encourages someone to remember their maintenance schedule, that's good. But it shouldn't be used in old engines that may have leaks because synthetic does leak more. Better to use conventional and change it regularly unless you don't care about the drips. After all, the Earth is going to be swallowed by the Sun anyway in five billion years. There goes everything!
You need to add Schaeffer Supreme 9000 5w30 into the mix!
Thank you for the video idea!
Yes please
I didnt give super tech much thought b4 this video. May give it a try now. Keep up the great videos
Thank you!
It works just fine for normal change intervals.
I love it. Value us what you get, price is what you pay. The 2 are rarely connected in commodity items. I been using SuperTech for 8 years.
Thank you
I've been changing my friends' and family's oil for years and have bought Quaker State for the most part because it wasn't as cheap as SuperTech and I don't know anything about oil. Thanks for the video!
You are welcome!
I used quaker state one time in my girlfriends 2017 Nissan Rogue with 30k on it (it was on clearance). The oil got dark so fast, started looking milky because moisture somehow was getting into the oil. Drained that crap out and put Supertech in... Still golden color few months later.
Love the 2019 playoffs. Pennzoil ultra is my horse. Keep the videos going love em!
Thank you
Love your comparisons.
Looking forward to the next Showdown.😎😆
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I've used Walmart oil for a little over 8 years now. Never had any problems with any of my engines. I also started using Supertech filters. For normal day to day driving with my cars I can honestly say it works!!!
Thank you for the feedback!
I am impressed with Super Tech. Great work. Thanks.
Thank you!
I stopped using Mobil 1 a few years back {switched to Super Tech} - have had zero issues and save more $$$- Super Tech is good oil
Super tech's oil is well worth the price and great quality too
I just started using supertech full synthetic in both my cars, glad to see I made a good choice. You can't beat that price!
Thanks for the feedback!
I decided to give super tech a try on my 04 tahoe with 170k miles on it and I noticed a performance increased.
I now use it with my ram 140k miles and brand new 2020 kia.
I DYI oil change on all 3 cars with the price I would pay for just 1 oil change being done at the shop.
Overall im very satisfied with the price and quality.
Thank you for doing this review!
You are welcome!
Would love to see a similar gear oil comparison comparing super tech synthetic gear oils to other more expensive brands.
Great suggestion! Thank you.
I’ve seen you run tests on numerous oils and fuel sources, but what about the ignition source? What spark plugs are best to use? OEM, Iridium, Platinum and E-3?
Thank you for the video idea!
I can't wait to see that!
Spark plugs are like people.. They either work or they don't. Iridium is better only really because the electrodes don't wear, but they cost 3 times as much. E3 is a gimmick.you still only get one arc from the 3 prongs. Those that claim they made their engines run better probably used them to replace dirty or bad plugs.
@@patdennis3751 I know a very competent engineer who believed the same as you until I spilled a small amount of my spark plug knowledge into UA-cam about everything I know from experience and testing.
I do think that e plugs are bull too. I haven't tried them, but the few who swear by them other than the people you mentioned who replaced garbage plugs tend to be racers. Hi powered engines. Proven additional horses. I own no such engines so I think it'd waste my time. 3-15 hp on a 600 hp ride is like .5 hp to 2.5 hp on many 4 and 6 cylinders. That's not enough difference to prove it was the spark plug.
Iridium out performs new platinum spark plugs.
1 of the reasons? Since iridium has dominated the market they don't make platinum as well as they used to. They lose their spark plug gap, which sometimes harms performance.
Dylan
My experience with E3 They work great for about 6 weeks then I had problems with them just stop firing. If you send them to E3 they will replace them. For me, I just use Autolites change every year and have great luck with them, I'm talking about the cheap ones. I have tried Halows, $12 each, platinum Autolites about $4 each and I get just as good fuel mileage with $2 cheap Autolites. Like I said though I replace them every year.
Ran Supertech synthetic in my car for 10k and sent it to Blackstone labs. Still had life left in it. Use it for all my cars now.
Impressive results!
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Revisiting the Super Tech videos because of the increasing prices of motor oil. The Kirkland brand and even the 6-quart packs of Mobil 1 oil are much more expensive than I remember pre-COVID.
Great test!
Im sorry to throw a spanner but i would really want to know how wel the cooked oil protects the bearings.
Greetings,, Kitty.
Thank you for the video idea!
@@ProjectFarm Maxboon has a good point!
Yes, definitely test of the real life conditions product & our concerns.
I was thinking the same thing! I'd rather see the cooked oil tested with friction than viscosity.
@@scopes78 I was thinking the same. It's like the oil was used. We don't see old fluid/oils tested much outside of their composition from Blackstone labs. I did a few Blackstone lab tests and I talked about the results on UA-cam. Thats a composition test not a, how it protects so much at that point even if it is great data. It's not the same. I think you get what I'm saying.
These videos are more addictive then gambling! You could start taking bets and box pools!
Thank you!
Can't wait for the Amsoil vs Mobile one vs super tech vs red line.
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