NEW! WERA Ratcheting Screwdriver 838 RA-R / It's Not like Other Ratcheting Screwdrivers
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Just picked up the New Wera 838 RA-R M Ratcheting Screwdriver.
In this video I share the cost, where I bought it, and show how it is different from others to help you decide if it's the right tool for you.
Hope it is useful & THANKS FOR WATCHING!
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That speed feature is really clever. Switch knob directions are intuitive and I like it.
It is interesting how it doesn’t stop, but there is still a fixed position. I think I like the direction/action this way better.
Yes. Very appealing for electrical stuff as even the lightest back drag on the ratchet will be too much for the small machine screws in metal boxes, etc. I've got an old SnapOn 1/2 ratchet that is great for sockets in automotive/tight spaces.
@@stringlarson1247 👍👍
I ordered both of these small ratcheting screwdrivers through Amazon so I’ll get them shipped once they’re in stock! I love ratcheting screwdrivers and I can’t wait to get my hands on these two!
👍👍.. I just saw they were available on Amazon now. They weren’t when I ordered mine.
I'm interested to see the longevity of the switch mechanisms. Definitely a fan of the turn towards the direction you want to drive.
@@phillipmoody710 yeah, this one is such a small driver I don’t see people probably wearing it out, but we will see.
I’m curious to see if they bring out a bigger screwdriver with the same setup
I have the Wera ratcheting T-handle part# 416 RA. What I like about that one is it fits my hand well and the T-handle really lets you torque down on a screw more so than a round screwdriver.
I haven’t tried that one. Will have to look it up 👍
Really glad we’re fixed their ratcheting system. Love Wera handles but their old ratcheting driver with the silver selector was not as tight as I would like
I never had that one, but I definitely like the direction of this one better than most others I’ve tried.
I like that it is small. I like you, don’t use ratcheting screwdrivers much. The only ratcheting I actually use are the ones with the rolegear mechanism. I have a bunch of them, but I use the gedore one without bit storage the most. I wish they made a short one in the form factor of that Wera (I have the Hazet which is shorter, but the handle is huge with the bit storage). Because I grew up (honestly until fairly recently when I started buying lots of tools) using craftsman hard handle screwdrivers, I am partial to that form as it’s what I am used to holding. Bzeug is a good channel. Bee-zoig.
That’s why I don’t use them as much either. It’s not that I don’t see their usefulness, I just have too much muscle and brain memory using regular screwdrivers. I can’t get myself to use the ratcheting function.
I didn’t really start trying new tools/ buying different tools till about 7-8 years ago. I was more, it works I’m not trying anything else person. I have come to realize that there is “works” and “works well”. Now that I can afford more, I look for tools that make things enjoyable to get the job done, and not just get the job done.
I've yet to dive into Wera for hand tools. Thanks for the video
It’s a mix on people loving/hating their handles. I think it depends on your hand size.
Their screwdrivers are a little on the light side for me (I prefer heavier screwdrivers), but they perform well.
I haven’t bought many of their other tools.
Hate that adjustment on the vessel. I always manage to switch it by accident. As far as the natural direction change on Wera, I love it. LTT screwdriver has that too and its just so intuitive.
Yeah, this one is kinda the next step in close enough but not too close for one hand. The vessel is close enough, but really too close.
I still prefer either to having to use two hands.
Anex 397 is much better because of this
That anex is my outside the bag quick grab myself even over vessel for a flip bit. I do notice the Grey switch vessel racheting are better if you can find them (still on az usa) the mechanism is smoother. The Grey swich were made in Japan not Taiwan like the yellow ones. Someone the yellow ones like the it holding racheting screwdriver is made in Japan as well.
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@@sandylanceley3860 I've never had the chance to try Anex 397. My last order from Amazon JP got held up by Polish customs because of the EU ban on Russian steel. They require proof that the ordered items aren't made from Russian steel, which is impossible for the average consumer. I really wanted to order that Fujia Kurokin adjustable wrench along with some other Anex items.
Heyco are decent German made screwdrivers. I got the green ascites hard plastic handles for $30 on kc as a filler and was pleasantly surprised. If at the time wera ball drivers were available I'd like to think I'd have gotten set. I see heyco as a semi value brand decent but I have better. Found there way into a family members tool chest and they use them frequently and I scratched an itch to try a new brand while making someone happy.
I do that a lot. It try tools and pass some on to people when I find what replaces them.
Appreciate the info 👍
Interesting little screwdriver, will have a look around and see if they are available in the UK. Thanks for sharing.
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Nice screwdriver I like that thumb switch. Great for 6-32 8-32 screws. And i herd you mentioned kc tools . There great I got some nws combination pliers from them a while back. Thanks for the review Morgan.
👍👍… this was the first time I ordered from them. It was the only place I could find it at the time.
I really like that.. I’m dyslexic so I think that would be terrific. I don’t really use a ratcheting screwdriver much. The Vessel gets the most ratcheting action in my arsenal, and you’d think muscle memory would take over but it still doesn’t.😂 Being dyslexic is also why I love the FactCap Lefty/Righty…. 😂😂😂
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve used a ratcheting screwdriver to put in long screws manually, only to think… I could have used the ratcheting feature at the end. It’s just not something I think about.
My Vessel USB probably gets used more in the places a ratcheting screwdriver would benefit me most.
Just ordered this AND the Klein impact 11in1 just to use the 3/8 nut driver with bit holder. Now I can I can run the ph2/flat and a Milwaukee ecx bit. Gonna keep the 5/16 with the other bits on a keychain bit holder for quick access.
👍👍.. I think I will like this one more than others I’ve used mainly because of that switch direction
i’m not a fan of ratcheting drivers but this wera looks promising. might need to pick one up 👍🏻
I know I won’t use them if I have to use two hands.. this one has a chance
I will get one when avaliable in canada. Gotta try it. Never could get use to the vessel it always switched directions so i put it away and dont use ratcheting screwdrivers at the moment.
👍👍.. I think I’m more likely to use this than my others (as a ratcheting)
So glad I bought one, worth every penny. It's become my most reached for tool in my bag over the last two weeks!
Bought it for a new install job, where I'm doing a load of tray, basket and double compartment Lagrand box trunking, which then need zebbing down onto unistrut brackets.
I'm constantly quick swapping between an 8mm nut driver bit and a roofing bit. Saves so much time, and my wrists. No more faffing around using a flat head, no lost screws because bits are magnetic. Perfect!
My only gripe is it's a tad easy to mistakenly nudge the ratchet into the opposite direction if you're really trying to drive a fastener down. Have to be mindful of your thumb!
Yeah there is a fine line for the selector being close enough and too close… I’d rather hit it a time or two than have to use my other hand.
@MORGANSMaintenance Exactly. It's a rare enough occurrence it's not a deal breaker. Only when I'm cranking it and my arm is overhead and reaching over other containment does it tend to happen. It's a quick fix anyhow: quickly notch it back with your thumb, but something a revised version might address.
Really like mine , I’m going to order a couple more for shop and tool belt.
It’s promising, super easy to change directions since it’s really not a switch
I do use wera bit holder's often ones on my dewalt 8v gyro screwdriver now. The impactor with the ring magnet is decent for deck screws though a little pricey for most. The real advantage to the wera bit holder is it locks onto most any c6, us 9mm, Japanese 13mm ect... One of the few non Japanese bit holders that will let you use 13mm anvils easily. The only thing wera bit holder dosent do well is double sided Japanese 13mm bits and it's quite bulky. In the end I'll probably end up giving this wera bit screwdriver a shot maybe once it hits my local platt electric. The free spinning nature looks convenient though I do worry it's a feature my vessel electric screwdriver dosent already provide an answer too already.
That’s what I told Brian Hall… I don’t use a ratcheting screwdriver as often as others because my Vessel USB screwdriver is what I use in most cases that people use a ratcheting screwdriver
Most of the ratcheting screwdrivers I have owned have been Klein, which I have absolutely been annoyed over their backwards switching. I was most recently required to buy their Impact Rated Ratcheting 11 in 1 ( 32500HDRT) to benifit from the KNect system. That is because the spline in the handle of the non-ratching version does not accept the sockets of the 1/4" pass through socket wrench set (65300) which (as you know) allows the screwdriver to be used as a nutdriver..
Klein has absolutely failed on that screwdriver. By positioning the switch nearly mid handle, those with larger hands constantly activate the ratchet feature from the locked shaft position, or reversing it, since it is (as with all klein ratcheting screwdrivers) righty loosey lefty tighty?! Had they non-ratcheting version had the KNect cross compatibility I would have preferred that version.
To get to the point... Wera has thought out how tools are actually used. The righty tighty lefty loosey makes complete since and is intuitive. I would like to buy this Wera product, but their smaller handles are actually quite uncomfortable. If they make this with a beefier handle the size of the Turbo, I'll buy it.
I use my Kleins in the Fixed position 99.9% of the time. Like you, I would use my regular version over the ratcheting if it worked with the KNect.
Maybe they will come out with a bigger version 👍👍
Dang they fixed everything wrong with the others and how many times have we been in a situation where it’s to tight to turn your hand I just wonder depending on how tight the screw is if using the fast part will cam out or anything or just stop
It’s a little hard to turn it once the screw needs torque. I don’t think you would be able to fully torque something down with just your thumb or finger.
So it stops spinning when it gets tight.
I enjoy using the Wera ball grips. I got some longer ones at Chad's Toolbox
I like them too, I just didn’t want to pay the crazy shipping from Japan to get more. The WERA laser tips are great
I got the smaller wera 838 RA S ratchet. I don’t use ratchet screwdrivers normally. But the bit recess on the 838 RA S magnetic version is perfict for Milwaukee 1 inch bits, but not so good with longer bits. It allows the full 1” bit shank to be utilized in recessed holes. Basically double the reach of what you get when using Milwaukee 1” bits in the rapid adapter. I do swear by the rapid adapter when using 2” or longer bits in hand drivers otherwise.
👍👍… I may end up getting that one too if I find I use this one more than usual
@@MORGANSMaintenance Just dont use them with gritty, greasy, oily hands. The first day I had mine I was working under a dash and the selector started switching directions on its own. I was able to flush out grit with some Houdini and it seems to be working fine though now. But it has a high pitch squeaks from time to time now.
@mumbles1justin 👍👍. Appreciate the heads up
Between you and last best tool, your thoughts on real world tool scenarios aplications are apriciated. Bezug channel is great too. Thanks for sharing. Snap on ratcheting screwdrvers switch in similar fashion. Even offer stubbys. Idk how you feel about mechanic tools for general maintenance repair though 😮😅
This driver seems great though. That 'speed' feature and the rapid rapidapter are a great selling point for me.
Cheers!
I actually saw a Snap On truck beside me in town yesterday. I started to follow him and see if I could look around, I’ve never been in one.
If a tool will work for me, I will use it. Those Snap On talon grips have become some of my favorite pliers. The smaller pair are as good as you can get for electrical locknuts.
Yes, the ratcheting switch is backwards on everything else so frequently I find if it’s using the other kind I go to try and tighten something down and get a better grip on it and then and then suddenly it changed the direction. I gotta stop what I’m doing go back and readjust it again backwards so that I can screw forward again, just annoying. So yeah going forward. I will only be getting ratcheting screwdrivers that have this correct direction like Wera
I agree, all the others seem wrong to me.
They say it is so when you bring your second hand up to change the switch.. if you grab the switch and turn the screwdriver the way you want to go, the switch will turn the opposite direction…
I personally don’t like using two hands, so that’s another reason I like this WERA.
Maybe a video with a nice bit setup for it? Needing some ideas
👍… I will see
Just got mine today and it’s great. Only downside is i wish it had bit storage in the handle
Someone else just commented wishing for the same thing 👍
it would probably make the handle bulkier/longer and make the free spinning less ergonomic.
Oh I've been thinking about this one
It has more of a shot to be used as a ratcheting than any of my previous ones. Super easy to switch
That is interesting
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Not a big fan of the Wera handle, but that design is nice. The features are awsome.
I know others that don’t like it much either.
I think I am more likely to use this one in a ratcheting way because of the features. We will see.
@@MORGANSMaintenance The mini ratchet is the worst. Sandblasted stainless can only be designed by a guy who works with a computer mouse the whole day. ItŚ as slippery as an Iphone without a case.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I think a triangular cross section gives the most power and good grip for spinning with the fingers whilst the end is in the palm.
I wish they had a rapidaptor ratcheting driver that stores bits in the handle
I’m surprised they don’t. I was thinking they had an older one, but I just checked and saw the one I was thinking about is called “bit holding”… but it’s for the handle but the Rapidaptor
I have the rapidaptor ratcheting driver with bit storage in the handle, but it is a pistol grip for high torque applications,and the older ratcheting mechanism.
What about using this or one of the Klein mod box sets with railer bits. Specifically the 6 inch torx and Allen bits instead of carrying separate keys.
@@chillagorilla I carry those Railer Allen bits instead of keys now. I think it is a lot better on space for your bag, and gives you more/better options to use them
One big question is how is the back drag on these vs other available ratcheting screwdrivers? Do you have enough variety at this point to compare a handful of them directly with a simple 'pull a on a scale with a string wrapped around a bit' type test? Only serviceable ratcheting screwdriver I've got is Milwaukee's newer stubby 8-in-1 (48-22-2913) with a Klein flip-socket set - back drag on that stubby is pretty heavy & undesirable.. Judging by my other Wera products, I'd probably prefer this.
I can’t ever tell a huge difference between any of them. Most all of mine don’t engage in the same situations (like the screw in my metal box) and do in places where any other one will.
BZUEG does put it against others in his video by attaching some together ua-cam.com/video/M4mpXqZcACw/v-deo.htmlsi=d-_MKV0wUy2YD_1K
He seemed to think it was pretty good and uses a lot of ratcheting screwdrivers.
Like I said, I’m not a ratcheting screwdriver expert by any means, I don’t even use the function glad the time on the ones I own. I do feel like I am more likely to use this one because of the location and functionality of the switch.
I hope they have this but with bits in the handle
I haven’t seen one yet, but maybe they will 👍
bzeug - I heard him pronounce his name on the his channel one time. He pronouced it as b-zoig.
👍👍.. I had never heard him say, but I haven’t watched a lot of his videos. I only catch the ones UA-cam wants me to see 😂
Does it still have a magnet? I like to have the ability for the screws to be held by the driver bit.
I wanna say yes, but now you have me second guessing myself 😂
It’s actually on my workbench because I was putting something together with it the other day.
I believe so, but let me double check to confirm.
Yes it is magnetic as far as holding the screw
@@MORGANSMaintenanceThank you! Ordered from Amazon DE for AUD30 delivered to Australia.
I'll keep my snap on
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I think the only ratcheting screwdriver I ever had, had a lever on it (one of those big red and yellow ball screwdrivers; great for torque) rather than a collar switch. If it has a collar on it, this one is the way I think it ought to be done too.
They say the other ones are reversed so when you grab the collar with your second hand and turn the driver the way you want to use it, the collar will then switch to the direction you are going.
That makes sense, but I prefer to be able to use with one hand. It works with this one because of the size.
Have you tried the Wera “Turbo” screwdriver, curious why someone would get it over a ratcheting one.
WERA 05057480001 826 T Kraftform Turbo bit-Holding Screwdriver Handle
I haven’t tried that yet. I’ve seen a few videos for it