Pakistan ISI's role in IC 814 hijack, govt 'failure' & price India paid for Masood Azhar's release
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
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Netflix series 'IC 814: The Kandahar Hijack' has brought the spotlight back on the December 1999 hijack. In this episode of ThePrintDialogues, Vir Sanghvi speaks to then R&AW Chief AS Dulat and Anand Arni, former special secretary, R&AW, who was a part of the team sent to Kandahar to negotiate with hostage takers. Watch this conversation tracing the events of the week-long hijack, how India responded & why Masood Azhar was set free.
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Why not interview "Shashi Bhushan Singh Tomar" himself and hear the whole first hand incident from the horse's mouth?
P.S. Shashi Tomar (R&AW Kathmandu Chief) was on that flight and was returning back to Delhi.
I'm not sure if the series has shown Tomar as one of the passengers in the TV Series.
P.S.S. Tomar was the brother-in-law of Nikhil Kumar (NSG Chief) and also of N.K. Singh (Principal Secretary).
And the conspiracy theorists say both didn't want to do any operation in Amritsar because there was a risk of casualty, that too of Shashi Tomar.
True, also why will these guys agree we messed up, all the events that happened give it out, it was a total failure of Indian intelligence and political government
Why the sound quality is poor 🤔
@@naadanparinda9056 as we all know that hijackers were armed with only knives till they were in Amritsar, the commando action should have been done and I think had all the passengers shown guts including Tomar this hijack could have been numbed in the bid itself.
@@naadanparinda9056 Tomar should carry a sense of guilt throughout his entire life. Then his conduct was completely filled with cowardice
@@jpc2861 our bro retired happily 2 years back. He was all set to become R&AW chiefs as well but Govt gave extension to Samant Goel. So, he retired as 2nd top most official there.
Also, I'm not privy to the things he did to amend his 1999 blunder.
Incompetency is the hallmark of Indian state including its security apparatus. They couldn't figure out kargil, ic814, recent chinese military build up on the border. This is not a serious society, i believe chalta h attitude is all more pervasive in the security agencies.
Nothing can be more true than this. We have destroyed this country with the policy of appeasement and secularism
We have never been militarily tactical, our defense has always been reactionary.
IC814 is a monumental failure, a hijacked plane parked in your tarmac for 30 minutes and you couldn't even get your act together and they just fly away.
in your dream
If they were that incompetent, then today India wouldn't have been here today with pakistan and china as neighbours. Yes, there is complacency at the top level in the govt, do you know where it came from? The director tries to blame it on BJP government at that time, but anyone with little brain knows that a new born govt cannot change the whole system in a span of 5 years. The complacency has started with the great Nehru era. You might call me Bhakt later for complaining it on congress, but i know BJP didn't do anything to change the status quo of the bureaucracy, but it all started because the people in power form 1947 did not take any action against complacency and they let it happen. Chalta hai attitude started because the congress govt denied giving free hand to the army.
@@RPSA505 4 cryptographers in PLA WTC who were recruited by R&AW from where we came to know infantry movement towards india border
Mr Dulat suddenly speaks like an intelligent person, his earlier interviews make him sound comical. Like his interviews about J&K, his soup lunch meeting with Farouk Abdulla post abrogation, or generally 370 or about his book spy chronicles,😮 (bribe this guy or pay that guy - Hurriyat) (why Mushraff didn’t pay Lal Masjid) , (mushroom soup or asparagus soup, who gives him official cars for 10 km rides) (how he has drink with wife even in this age etc etc ).
A S Dulat is not the greatest Spymaster. He is India's worst spy master. The person who worked and retired in the wrong profession.
He is a typical Babu. He is a guy who wants a temporary solution. Hence, he chose to bribe and give comfort to the likes of Yasin and Bitta karate instead of eliminating them for their atrocities on the minority of Kashmir
Tragic and unforgivable that after the pilot had managed to land the aircraft in Amritsar, they were allowed to take off. All the stuff about RAW being so fantastic and bumping off the terrorists in Pakistan and Ghus ke marengey is hot air and happy talk. The Pakistanis have repaid India for their humiliation in 1971 many times over.
A S Daulat was responsible for two intelligence failures the biggest is Kargil and lesser one Kandahar Hijack. Vir they are just washing their hands and cleaning themselves. Why then they failed to stop the plane in Amritsar
A S Daulat was one of the most incompetent RAW chief and how can he will accept his mistakes
The damage AS Dulat caused India needs to be taken stock of
Shameful incompetence of the Indian security establishment. I am not sure if a similar incident occurs. We would be prepared to respond any better.
you are incompetent. Instead of saying that ISI was involved and flight was hijjacked from kathmandu. The director whitewashed ISI and pakistan involvement. WHole series is bogus
Is it safe to say that AS Dulat oversaw the worst performance of the intelligence networks in Indian history?
because he is the worst guy
@@nannu3703 yes that true . He was more interested in writing books
😢😢
Yes very true
"Hanging Afzal Guru was wrong" A.S. Dulat. This incompetent man was the RAW chief at the time of IC 814 hijack. He walking with Pappu during his BJ Yatra. Surprised?
These two would have spoken to each other made sure their stories aligned then spoke 2 u. I wouldn't be surprised if dulat was drunk throughout 1999.
These guys can’t even lie properly .. they have made a mockery of the RAW and IB 🤦🏻♂️
None of the three are talking about the pressure put by the relatives of the passengers on the government. That shows the debate is biased😂
Is Mr Dulat senile merely being a small Station does it mean Pakistan was doing anything at all in Kathmandu !!! 🤣🤣🤣
How to believe there is honesty in these officers answers if it’s ‘apni izzat ka sawal’?
Guys do an audio check before starting
Vir Sanghavi, should gracefully retire. He is past his prime ‘fueled by leaks from MMS’s office’. He is no more relevant or in the know of things.
His face seems swollen.
What could be the reason?
Why ask them “did you ignore the intelligence” would they agree?
Thank you veer sir .Avery Good interview.
Now days vir Sanghvi didn't get his drinks from PM Office or Congress bhavan. So he is trying desi santra...... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Faruk Abdullah is a past master at grand standing. All the tall talk of resignation .... Why did he never resign when KPs were being slaughtered under his watch?
The biggest blunder was at Amritsar airport where the plane was allowed to take off.
What would you have done at the Amritsar airport ??? . Those men were prepared to die, with them they would have killed 50+ passengers too .BJP was not ready for human casualties at any cost. Any commando style operation could have meant losing people.
Man Advani is an idiot cuz of this might be we had lost 10000 ppl more till date. And the jaesh became a big group
😂😂😂@@SameerSharma-gh8mg
And you Dulat, collaborated with one Dangerous ISI guy to write book. SHAME IS NOT enough to define you
Whatever these 90s babus may say, The truth is these intelligent stalwarts were taken by surprise and even after knowledge of hijack, none of these babus called the shots and everyone was busy defending themselves of the failure and few of them were the ministers
If there were no guns in Amritsar then why was it not stormed...very poorly handed crisis
Total failure, guns or no guns.
😂😂😂😂
Nothing new was said. Instead of asking Dulat hard questions on the intelligence failure, Vir wasted the opportunity on minor discrepancies in the series. It is surprising that incompetent people like Dulat can
rise to such positions. And no wonder he is a Karan Thapar favourite.
What else can you expect from the Print.
Whats wrong in this dumbfck
These both ex officers of RAW are die hard sleuths !
Even after so many years - Mr. Vir Sanghvi is questioning them and getting dilly dally replies .
Lips still sealed .
Such is the Honour of RAW .
Held in high esteem by intelligence agencies across the world .
“Honor”: why the fuck did the hijack happen in the first place?? It’s bcos of their total failure
@@eufailRight. They’re just hiding their incompetence.
Master liars😂 it is their job. Read between lines
Amazing choice of interview... thanks VS Sir...although pls start a new series of food vlogs with ur vast knowledge
Seriously ! They will not admit anything went wrong or ignored 😮
Sorry to say that RAW and advani were the biggest failures. The consequences of the ideocacy we r still facing till today
A caution.... These people have conflict of interest on the issue
They will say, they had no information, to save their ass.😅😅😅
Series based on past events should be evaluated primarily on factual grounds rather than through the lens of contemporary perspectives, which are often influenced by hyper-nationalism. This black-and-white approach hinders our understanding of complex realities.
The series' portrayal of terrorists using code names like 'Doctor,' 'Bhola,' 'Burger,' and 'Shankar' aligns with documented facts, reportedly listed on a government website, possibly the Ministry of External Affairs.
While I found the series to be decent, it didn't reach the quality of 'Patal Lok' or 'Family Man.' The hype surrounding it was excessive.
Veer Sanghvi's article in The Print highlights several instances where the series failed to accurately depict the involvement of the ISI.
Given these factors, it's essential to understand the filmmakers' research methods and how Anubhav chose to portray the real-life experiences of the hostages. While creative liberties are acceptable, it's crucial to avoid distorting facts. The disappointment expressed by Mr. Sharma, the chief steward, suggests that the series may have been rushed and lacked sufficient research
Best narrative on hijacking.
Vir Sanghi is supposed to be a experienced reporter then whats the point of asking the same question again and again ! this is not a court room ,
As if these fellows are going to admit to their incompetence.
veer sanghvi terms it as a failure of the government - failure has to be based on a criteria - if the government directive was that there should be no bloodshed, it was a success. Suppose, there was loss of lives upto 25-30 (unarmed people against armed terrorists - like Mumbai attack), the exercise of saving the rest would not have been appreciated. Since this was the first incidence, the strategies have evolved after that.
These babus are experts in passing the buck, blaming someone else for anything wrong. Amritsar, our own territory was a disaster but they are talking about others not helping. The government of the day was shaking and worked terribly under pressure from irresponsible media.
It's high time we sit back and ponder why we have been a loser all through our history !
Most dullard conversation - I am surprised such eminent panelists are being so ambiguous
What about the Swiss gentleman ,owner of currency note printing ink manufacturing facility in Switzerland prbably called De La Rue, Some of that ink was also delivered aa part of the bargain to get hostages released..
Why air India , what about Indian government ?
It’s a TV show guys. Not a documentary.
the don't write "based on true events"
Comedy show maza lo 😂😂
Was there a RAW officer on board as a passenger as shown in the show?
There are media reports of Shashi Bhushan Singh Rathore, IPS, 1986 batch, a senior RAW officer being onboard the aircraft
Watch in 1.25x
Has this had happened during Modi's regime, all the top brass of RAW, IB and home ministry would have been fired. Even half of PMO officials would have been sent home
Different PMs face different issues.
PM modi faced a Chineese incursion in ladak on the bloody night. He not only did nothing, but told that china did not take any land and there by conceeded the land to china. I am sure Vajpayee would not have done that level of blunders.
@@JohnAbraham-gh6dz so you just made fool of yourself by buying into Chinese propaganda. Please don't forget that under Modi, our army gave a bloody nose to the Chinese which lost 30-40 of its own solders.
BTW the Chinese had taken over 38000 sq km of Aksai Chin when Mr Nehru was the PM.
No officer has ever been fired, whatever the failure.
Why a defunct country's secret service wing is all around. They can do regime change n Afghanistan, Bangladesh influence n Nepal. What are we doing??
What a boring sleepy show
indian-afghan bhai bhai.
🇮🇳❤️🇦🇫
All Afghans are welcome to live in Hindustan.
Sabka saath, sabka bikas.
No, you guys aren't welcome here. Don't forget, you are just a nuisance to the whole world.
Masood azhar?
I thought the plane was hijacked by a bhola and a shankar
Finally someone speaking truth!!
👍 great! from the horse’s mouth! Even burkha should have invited these two honourable guests instead of those journalist ladies for discussion on this subject.
Very detailed and informative discussion 👌
Hold on if there were no guns... then all men in that plane were doing what exactly... just because those goons had knife they backed off this makes no sense... even i would jump on them if all they had was knife. this doesn't add up or indians back in the day were really spineless am shocked to hear this that there were no guns and the journalist just brushed this.. whats happening here
Completely lam story. . .you can confirm this point from the interview of captain devi sharan and other passenger which is readily available. . .