The samurai were geniuses. For the people than don't understand what is going on, see the shoulders of Uke in some of the techniques. This is what happens when you don't have tv and all you do is find ways to have an advantage in battle. Okamoto sensei was able to master aiki to a very high degree. All his movements were drawing a circle.
Although to many people this would look fake, it's the "kuzushi" or balance braking element that I KNOW works, as I use it myself... Once you understand the principle of body mechanics and the related postures, and to ALSO develop the muscular structure to execute the techniques, its really a matter of using ones "strength" to its most effective and economic use... It took me about 5 years to begin to understand it and to be able to utilize it in one's techniques, which takes about ten years, but with the right instruction and less "mystery" and hocus pocus (it has a habit of attracting in certain people), it can be achieved in far less... I can get people to do it within seconds but it's forgotten very quickly... Like everything physical it has to be practised hundreds of times and FELT... Once its in the body memory it can be called upon at will...
I dont doubt that this is a real technique. Even I didnt had the opportunity to feel it myself. My concern is that its maybe not working if someone attaks you realy hard and agressiv. I once chatted with an daito ryu practioner and he told me that it dont work on everyone. The same thing once told me a Taiji master about the special techniques of Taiji which can look also mysterious.
@@Gieszkanne Well only one way to find out....go and study it yourself !!...what you have to realise is that it has to be practised from all sorts of attack, hard or otherwise.. That is how you test it!! These techniques done for real in other ways not seen here are very effective and as the old story goes, there is more than one way to skin a cat!!
@@Gieszkanne It's more the opposite. It's hard to get them to work if you don't have any force inputted. That's the whole principle. If you do it correctly, the more force you get, the more it goes back on attacker.
To learn the real thing, we need a really good teacher! Yes, you can get students to do this within seconds. After that, the student has to practice this thousands of times until it becomes automatic! It's basically about balance, body dynamics, feeling your opponents Ki. We cannot learn this by just watching masters on UA-cam doing this! You say that you took about 5 years to understand this. That's probably because you didn't have a good teacher! Koichi Tohei sensei (10th Dan Aikido) was always talking about leading the opponent's Ki! His English is poor and I had great difficulty understanding him. His Aikido is known as Ki-Aikido or Shin Shin Toitsu Aikido i.e. Aikido with mind and body coordination. He and O'sensei (Uyeshiba sensei) made it sound very mystical, mysterious and spiritual!
Tony Wagstaffe 2 years ago (edited) Although to many people this would look fake, it's the "kuzushi" or balance braking element that I KNOW works, as I use it myself... Once you understand the principle of body mechanics and the related postures, and to ALSO develop the muscular structure to execute the techniques, its really a matter of using ones "strength" to its most effective and economic use... It took me about 5 years to begin to understand it and to be able to utilize it in one's techniques, which takes about ten years, but with the right instruction and less "mystery" and hocus pocus (it has a habit of attracting in certain people), it can be achieved in far less... I can get people to do it within seconds but it's forgotten very quickly... Like everything physical it has to be practised hundreds of times and FELT... Once its in the body memory it can be called upon at will...
I was super stoked to watch this video and then... well then I tried watching it. I love Aiki jitsu but I love real and actual technique that really works, not what I am watching here. Sad to watch the few minutes I could bear, hoping that something real and actual would occur, it never showed up.
10 years ago i thought like you about aiki-jujitsu and aikido but now i'm practicing it cause i know more about the concept of japanese martial art and their background. The thing is you can't understand their idea with a tons of video, they won't give you too much of explanation like western, that's your job to apply it because when you 15 you have to wear armor,get katana , go to battlefield and hope you'll survive to tell sensei what technique didn't work.
@@renchi6989 I very much appreciate Aikido and Aikijitsu. I have trained in Aikido for about 15 years now. That is why I was sad to see this. It is this sort of stuff that perpetuates the belief that this art is "fake". And to be honest seeing this sort of stuff I don't wonder why people have that attitude about it. I just guess I train in a more real version. I put Aikido into two categories : real and workable as one and the second I call fluffy bunny, I have to say seeing this I should come up with a third category, I just can't think of anything below "fluffy bunny" right at the moment. I'd just have to say fake. But to be honest I don't train martial arts for "religious" reasons or enlightenment on a higher plane. I seek to learn how to protect myself and those I love, this will not do that. But I do not mean any disrespect
@@cagedraptor I agree with you. No martial arts here at all. I'm been practicing Aikido for 6 years and we never do thinks like that. That's totally fake, it's the uke the one throw himself...
@@maxdpadilla That's because 95% of aikido people these days have no idea what AIKI is (speaking as a person that has done aikido 2-3X as long as you). Go to someone like Dan Harden if you want to find out what that means..once he has seminars again in a covid-less world.
Imo, "aiki" demonstrations such as some of the techniques performed in this video do not lend themselves to illustrating the actual effectiveness of Daito ryu when all of the uke are compliant and throw themselves at the slightest prompt. This just makes the art look phony when it is anything but.
@@susanohara4274 I know. I train in Daito ryu and Yamate ryu aikijujutsu. The techniques from seiza are just to demonstrate the ability to unbalance/neutralize an attacker from seated , kneeling positions. There are MANY very effective, combat oriented techniques that work well which would be much better to show in many of the traditional Daito ryu videos. People don't understand aiki, so magical-seeming aiki demonstrations are not the best choices to represent the art from an outsiders perspective. The nage waza and kansetsu waza are much better choices. Despite what I have said about aikijujutsu and some of the less currently practical techniques, it is super street effective if trained properly and my favorite art to study ( thouh often quite painful). Check out some of the Fudoshin ryu aikijujutsu videos and Miguel Ibarra's "Aikijujutsu Street Defense" videos. He was a cop who used his skills on the street against fugitives and gang members. Fudoshin ryu and Miguel Ibarra's aikijujutsu are both very street applicable.
@@SOPACHNAYA Thanks very much Andy. Classical Aikijutsu is probably more combat effective than Yoshinkan Aikido when it comes to street defence. The worst are the so-called Ki Aikido! These are usually useless for street self defence and are obsessed with Ki! The Aikido of Aikikai is basically an art form and also useless for self defence!
@@SOPACHNAYA Toshihito Shibata sensei, a Japanese American is good in Ki. He studied many martial arts including Aikido and Daito ryu Aikijutsu. ua-cam.com/video/A8Ui2tS8iCA/v-deo.html
That's because all aikido comes from Daito ryu. Tenshin and Yoshinkan are more like the old aiki budo ( Daito ryu, Yamate ryu, etc) than other forms of aikido.
@@SOPACHNAYA Morihei Uyeshiba o'sensei studied many classical Japanese martial arts including sword and stick fighting, jujitsu, Aikijutsu and Sumo. Both he and Sokaku Takeda sensei were once defeated by a famous Judoka! That's probably the only time they were defeated in a public challenge match!
По сути айки это создание баланса в нужный момент времени. Сёрфер, канатоходец, велосипедист по сути делают то же самое! Даже ребёнок учась ходить учится равновесию и никто не видит в этом магии и не называет малыша шарлатаном. 😅 Откройте свои глаза! А главное ум.. Ваш прошлый опыт и парадигма того что жизнь это борьба мешают вам видеть очевидное.. Другой вопрос понять идею недостаточно чтобы тут же начать ею свободно пользоваться. Каждый из вас умеет ходить, но многие ли из вас пройдут по канату, натянутому между двумя небоскрёбами? Нужна практика. Но понимание что никакого в этом чуда или обмана в этом нет - важно!
合気は誰の中にもある。 筋肉が、合気の力を薄ませている。 合気は、呼吸法と、筋肉を捨て去る修練により復活する。 余分な力は必要ない。 合気のレベルにより、技も高度になる。 完全に筋肉を捨て去った「上級合気」は、背後を感知したり、手を使わずに投げたり相手を固めることができる。(＝固め合気) 頭で相手を投げることもできる。(＝頭合気) 「体の中の合気」＋「呼吸法」＋「円の動き」＋「カウンター」＋「スピード」＋「力点」＝全てを合わせて合気道という。 The “Aiki” is inner force. The aiki is in everybody's body. A muscle decrease the quality of the aiki. The aiki revives by an exercise to throw away muscle. Over power is not necessary.
@@susanohara4274 I train in this art. Just saying that many of these demo type videos are more about trying to impress people with magical aiki techniques that really wouldn't be applicable in real life. What they should show instead are the actual techniques that could be applied on the street. Shihonage, kote hinari, kote maki, kote gaeshi, ude osae, ude garame, maki gatame, etc, etc.
@@SOPACHNAYA These combat effective techniques are "secrets" taught personally by the master to his disciples. The authentic transmission of these techniques is always personal.
Okamoto Seigo : sensei Daitoryu Aikijujutsu Roppokai , around 1989. video and book
his teacher was Horikawa Kodo , and his sensei was Takeda Sokaku.
指先でやってるやつ棒でも出来るんだろうね。もちろん薙刀とか長いものは持たれやすいからそれに使えるやん
さすが岡本先生です。「袖」は「そで」と読みましょう。
疑う気持ちももっともですけどね。
私もビデオを見ただけでは信じられませんでした。
かけられたらある意味納得です。
なぜかはわからないのですよ。でもきれいに崩されます。
なんなんでしょうね。
最後に骨法の堀辺正史が出て来て笑ってしまった。一世を風靡した骨法は今いずこ。
真田一平命がけ。
確か骨法でしたね。
殿中の技と聞いてます。
座技もあるのもいいですね
師父說了該交學費了，沒帶學費的原地做一個護身倒法下個月交，於是同學紛紛照辦。
私は見えます ！この最も効果的な物理学と重力！ありがとう
懐かしい、持ってたやつだ！
堀川幸道の弟子筋はみんな似たり寄ったりの事ができる。
柔術の合気の究極形なのだそうだ。
掛けられた側が「うっ」とか声が出てしまうのが特徴。
武田惣角伝にはもう一つ奥の段階、奥伝があったんだと言う話。
それを使われると使われた側はぐずぐずっと崩れ落ちてしまうみたい。
堀川幸道伝のように後頭部にぬけて硬直したりするのではないそうだ。
多分、晩年の上芝盛平とか光輪洞合気道の人がやってるのがそれ。
ちなみに塩田剛三も上芝門下を離れて独立した後に堀川幸道に教えをこいに行ってるそうだ。
すごいなあ。
The samurai were geniuses. For the people than don't understand what is going on, see the shoulders of Uke in some of the techniques.
This is what happens when you don't have tv and all you do is find ways to have an advantage in battle. Okamoto sensei was able to master aiki to a very high degree. All his movements were drawing a circle.
They are cooperating. I hate these displays of unrealistic aiki.
@@SOPACHNAYA for demos, somewhat. I have felt his, and his students' techniques personally, and have been thrashed time and again, non-cooperatively.
自分も習っていたがこんなんじゃなかった
Although to many people this would look fake, it's the "kuzushi" or balance braking element that I KNOW works, as I use it myself... Once you understand the principle of body mechanics and the related postures, and to ALSO develop the muscular structure to execute the techniques, its really a matter of using ones "strength" to its most effective and economic use... It took me about 5 years to begin to understand it and to be able to utilize it in one's techniques, which takes about ten years, but with the right instruction and less "mystery" and hocus pocus (it has a habit of attracting in certain people), it can be achieved in far less... I can get people to do it within seconds but it's forgotten very quickly... Like everything physical it has to be practised hundreds of times and FELT... Once its in the body memory it can be called upon at will...
I dont doubt that this is a real technique. Even I didnt had the opportunity to feel it myself. My concern is that its maybe not working if someone attaks you realy hard and agressiv. I once chatted with an daito ryu practioner and he told me that it dont work on everyone. The same thing once told me a Taiji master about the special techniques of Taiji which can look also mysterious.
@@Gieszkanne Well only one way to find out....go and study it yourself !!...what you have to realise is that it has to be practised from all sorts of attack, hard or otherwise.. That is how you test it!! These techniques done for real in other ways not seen here are very effective and as the old story goes, there is more than one way to skin a cat!!
Doesn't hurt to have compliant uke. I train in aikijujutsu. IMO that is pure exhibition with cooperating uke. Not a realistic display of aiki.
@@Gieszkanne It's more the opposite. It's hard to get them to work if you don't have any force inputted. That's the whole principle. If you do it correctly, the more force you get, the more it goes back on attacker.
To learn the real thing, we need a really good teacher! Yes, you can get students to do this within seconds. After that, the student has to practice this thousands of times until it becomes automatic! It's basically about balance, body dynamics, feeling your opponents Ki. We cannot learn this by just watching masters on UA-cam doing this! You say that you took about 5 years to understand this. That's probably because you didn't have a good teacher! Koichi Tohei sensei (10th Dan Aikido) was always talking about leading the opponent's Ki! His English is poor and I had great difficulty understanding him. His Aikido is known as Ki-Aikido or Shin Shin Toitsu Aikido i.e. Aikido with mind and body coordination. He and O'sensei (Uyeshiba sensei) made it sound very mystical, mysterious and spiritual!
お腹に合気をかけるの満員電車で車両内を移動したい時にしたいな
義務教育期間中の約十年間、日本全国の学生がこれを実践し続けたら……。二十年後、三十年後、四十年後にその人物達は一体、どのような道徳観念を培われているだろうか。そういうのを少し考えました。後世に残って欲しいですね…
2:47
disciples "Can I have a handshake plz?"
master "f no"
結構重要なこと喋っちゃってる。ナレーションがなかなか的確。
八光流柔術師範 寺澤交山先生
八光流柔術師範 寺澤交山先生
Tony Wagstaffe
2 years ago (edited)
Although to many people this would look fake, it's the "kuzushi" or balance braking element that I KNOW works, as I use it myself... Once you understand the principle of body mechanics and the related postures, and to ALSO develop the muscular structure to execute the techniques, its really a matter of using ones "strength" to its most effective and economic use... It took me about 5 years to begin to understand it and to be able to utilize it in one's techniques, which takes about ten years, but with the right instruction and less "mystery" and hocus pocus (it has a habit of attracting in certain people), it can be achieved in far less... I can get people to do it within seconds but it's forgotten very quickly... Like everything physical it has to be practised hundreds of times and FELT... Once its in the body memory it can be called upon at will...
🙂🙃
これはスゴイ。これを最初に考えた人はとんでもない観察力だったのでは。学びたいものです。
この方のお弟子さんだった方に習っていますが、面白いですよ
@かさねはた 平安時代末期の武将！そんなに歴史のあるものなんですね。
@@goro5093 イイですね。合気道なら、何流でも同じことが学べると考えて良いのか？
@@YANAGITAtokinori さん
「合気道」ではやってるところはあまりないですね
「大東流合気柔術」の「六方会」系なら合気上げ下げを重点的にやってます。
埼玉、東京なら、「維心館」天野正之先生がオススメです
@@goro5093 ありがとうございます。こちら地方住みで、大東流合気柔術でググったら幾つか見つかりました。
コレが噂の合気上げと合気下げか…
なるほど瞬間的に重心に向かって掛けていくんだな
でもどうやってやるんだ？食らってみたいぜ！
中原佑介 痛いから辞めとき
まあ受け身取れば平気だけど
@@user-lh2hg4dt6b うちの師匠の場合は合気を入れられること自体は痛くないですよ。関節をきめてるわけではないので。
昔持ってたが無くしてしまった。
ちゃんと受け身を取るお弟子さん？
分かってらっしゃる
合気道って純粋に憧れる
林檎 これは、合気道の元になった大東流合気柔術という武術です。
この動画の岡本先生は合気掛けてないですよね？
撮影用に形だけやってるんでしょうか
確かに、合気が入らない柔術的な技が多いですね。
典型的な合気上げ、合気下げの動作はしっかり入っていると思いますが。
私はまだ「小さくいれる」ことが苦手なので、見てとれない小さく合気を入れる動作が入っているのかもしれませんが…
自分の友人に合気道を7年やっているという人がいて、自分も空手をやっていたという事で話が弾み、｢技かけてあげるよ笑｣と手首を掴まされました。
すると彼は鍵手をして｢手を離してみて？離れないから笑｣と言いました。
僕は何も考えずに手を離してしまいました。彼には本当に申し訳ないことをしたと思います。
良いことをしましたなwww
慢心してる人にはいい薬やろ笑
他流で体ができている人が、合気道の技を掛けられると、普通に逃げられることがありますね。私もそうでした。技術的に面白いので、私は自分から積極的に掛かりに行きますが。
それで良いと思いますよ。どんな高度な技であれ人によってはかかったり掛からなかったりするのが普通なわけで。
このビデオと一緒に骨法のビデオも発売されたんだよな
懐かしい
喧嘩芸 骨法😂
@@ieg2476
あの頃は立技最強って言ってて
途中からグレイシーの影響で寝技やりはじめて今では武器術
大東流と祖を同じくするって話は何処へ行ったのやら😅
@@ka6706 堀辺さんが佐川道場で三元までやってるので技術的に同根と言う事でしょうね。
骨法の日曜特訓で合気道の３教みたいな技を教わったことがあります。
It's physics !!!
0:58 ここからがサッパリわからんです・・・。
何がどうなっているでしょうか？
やってみると、なるほど！と思いますが、全力で手首を取りに行こうとしたとき、直前でタイミングをずらされて重心も上がってブレるので、そこをさらに前に外して投げるような感じでしょうか
つかめると思った手がつかめなくなるだけで一瞬「おっ！」てなっちゃいますから
骨法かぁ、出来るなら透しを見てみたいね
I was super stoked to watch this video and then... well then I tried watching it. I love Aiki jitsu but I love real and actual technique that really works, not what I am watching here. Sad to watch the few minutes I could bear, hoping that something real and actual would occur, it never showed up.
10 years ago i thought like you about aiki-jujitsu and aikido but now i'm practicing it cause i know more about the concept of japanese martial art and their background. The thing is you can't understand their idea with a tons of video, they won't give you too much of explanation like western, that's your job to apply it because when you 15 you have to wear armor,get katana , go to battlefield and hope you'll survive to tell sensei what technique didn't work.
@@renchi6989 I very much appreciate Aikido and Aikijitsu. I have trained in Aikido for about 15 years now. That is why I was sad to see this. It is this sort of stuff that perpetuates the belief that this art is "fake". And to be honest seeing this sort of stuff I don't wonder why people have that attitude about it. I just guess I train in a more real version. I put Aikido into two categories : real and workable as one and the second I call fluffy bunny, I have to say seeing this I should come up with a third category, I just can't think of anything below "fluffy bunny" right at the moment. I'd just have to say fake. But to be honest I don't train martial arts for "religious" reasons or enlightenment on a higher plane. I seek to learn how to protect myself and those I love, this will not do that. But I do not mean any disrespect
@@cagedraptor I agree with you. No martial arts here at all.
I'm been practicing Aikido for 6 years and we never do thinks like that. That's totally fake, it's the uke the one throw himself...
@@cagedraptor It's not fake. Go to Howard Popkin and find out. There's a reason he was following Okamoto since 1992.
@@maxdpadilla That's because 95% of aikido people these days have no idea what AIKI is (speaking as a person that has done aikido 2-3X as long as you). Go to someone like Dan Harden if you want to find out what that means..once he has seminars again in a covid-less world.
これと、奥伝持ってるけど、ビデオデッキが壊れてまして。助かりました。
最高境界就是用鼻毛撻人，掂一下鼻毛就可把人放出去。
努力 ! 努力 !
八光流柔術師範 寺澤交山先生
Imo, "aiki" demonstrations such as some of the techniques performed in this video do not lend themselves to illustrating the actual effectiveness of Daito ryu when all of the uke are compliant and throw themselves at the slightest prompt. This just makes the art look phony when it is anything but.
The samurai has used Daito ryu Aikijitsu in real combat! It has been proven to be combat effective!
@@susanohara4274 I know. I train in Daito ryu and Yamate ryu aikijujutsu. The techniques from seiza are just to demonstrate the ability to unbalance/neutralize an attacker from seated , kneeling positions. There are MANY very effective, combat oriented techniques that work well which would be much better to show in many of the traditional Daito ryu videos. People don't understand aiki, so magical-seeming aiki demonstrations are not the best choices to represent the art from an outsiders perspective. The nage waza and kansetsu waza are much better choices. Despite what I have said about aikijujutsu and some of the less currently practical techniques, it is super street effective if trained properly and my favorite art to study ( thouh often quite painful). Check out some of the Fudoshin ryu aikijujutsu videos and Miguel Ibarra's "Aikijujutsu Street Defense" videos. He was a cop who used his skills on the street against fugitives and gang members. Fudoshin ryu and Miguel Ibarra's aikijujutsu are both very street applicable.
@@SOPACHNAYA Thanks very much Andy. Classical Aikijutsu is probably more combat effective than Yoshinkan Aikido when it comes to street defence. The worst are the so-called Ki Aikido! These are usually useless for street self defence and are obsessed with Ki!
The Aikido of Aikikai is basically an art form and also useless for self defence!
@@SOPACHNAYA Toshihito Shibata sensei, a Japanese American is good in Ki. He studied many martial arts including Aikido and Daito ryu Aikijutsu.
ua-cam.com/video/A8Ui2tS8iCA/v-deo.html
これは冊子ビデオセットで売られてた「ムー」ですね。ムーシリーズには骨法とか強健術とか胡散臭いのが多くこれも胡散臭さの全開でしたが大人になって知識蓄えた今はこれは本物だったとわかりました。あと修斗とかもムービデオ販売してましたね。
強健術のビデオが見てみたいな。
路上で喧嘩屋相手に使ってみてほしい
そういう意見いう人絶対出てきますね。岡本先生はサラリーマンだったので
世界各国出張で回る事が多く、その先で危険な場面にあった際に、大東流の
技で制してます（先生から直接伺いました）岡本先生くらいになると、相手が
空手でもボクシングでもレスラーでも、大東流で倒せるのです。
@namaco 765 受身が取れない人が技をかけられたらただただ、吹っ飛ばされて怪我するだけだと思います。綺麗な受身が取れてるからと言って、それが演技だというのは適切ではないのでは？
私は合気道初段ですが、相手がちゃんと受け身取れる相手でないと、本気で投げれません。稽古で怪我されたら困るので。
@@kisyuugunnsou 嘘つきから直接きいてもなぁ〜
@@user-ge8mv4ik3s 嘘かどうか？ご自身で体験すれば宜しいです。体験せずして嘘つき呼ばわりするのは卑怯者のする事です。
@@kisyuugunnsou 貴方は体験したのかい？
この稽古やってみたいです、相手が老人でも武道家なら思いっきり殴りますけどね。
そんなことをすれば暴行傷害罪で訴えられる。
合気道の黒帯取得者です。
合気道の話になりますが、「こんなのインチキだ」と言って、すでに老人だった開祖に投げられて結局入門した人も沢山いますよ。有名な人だと柔道家だった塩田剛三や、相撲取の天竜だとか。
だから貴方も是非道場破りに行ってみてください！
合気の科学と言う動画をみると解明されてるから疑ってる人は見てみるべきだよ。
八光流柔術師範 寺澤交山先生
It's quite similar to Yoshinkan Aikido.
That's because all aikido comes from Daito ryu. Tenshin and Yoshinkan are more like the old aiki budo ( Daito ryu, Yamate ryu, etc) than other forms of aikido.
@@SOPACHNAYA Morihei Uyeshiba o'sensei studied many classical Japanese martial arts including sword and stick fighting, jujitsu, Aikijutsu and Sumo. Both he and Sokaku Takeda sensei were once defeated by a famous Judoka! That's probably the only time they were defeated in a public challenge match!
Gozo Shioda sought Aiki knowledge from Kodo Horikawa, Okamoto Sensei's Sensei. That's why there are similarities.
古武術がなぜ現代まで残っているか分からないコメントが多いな。
僕の合気道の五段の先生は、手刀を取りそこねて「アウッ?!」とか言って殴られてたけど、それに比べれば凄いです。
怪異日本人
По сути айки это создание баланса в нужный момент времени. Сёрфер, канатоходец, велосипедист по сути делают то же самое! Даже ребёнок учась ходить учится равновесию и никто не видит в этом магии и не называет малыша шарлатаном. 😅 Откройте свои глаза! А главное ум.. Ваш прошлый опыт и парадигма того что жизнь это борьба мешают вам видеть очевидное.. Другой вопрос понять идею недостаточно чтобы тут же начать ею свободно пользоваться. Каждый из вас умеет ходить, но многие ли из вас пройдут по канату, натянутому между двумя небоскрёбами? Нужна практика. Но понимание что никакого в этом чуда или обмана в этом нет - важно!
合気上げ、合気下げは高等技術インチキではないと思ってるが、
8:05の動きを見た瞬間頭の中で「なんでやねん！」という突っ込みの音声が流れてしまった。
こうして改めて見ると、合気を説明してる色んな方の動きとは一線を画してますね。
明らかにそういう方達より技として一枚も二枚も上だと素人ながらに思います。
岡本師範の鍛え上げられた手首の太さはヤバいです
相手に技が掛かる様に相手に上手く持たせてるから掛かるんですが、素人の女性だと掛からない技も有りますが、相手が強いが故に先読みや危険を察知して掛かる技も有るのが条件反射を上手く利用します
他にも実戦で使う危険な技も大東流には沢山有りますね
書籍に「よく手首が太いけど何か鍛練をしているのかと聞かれますが、これは家系なんです」とありました。
先生よりも倒れ役の弟子のほうが気を使っている( ´艸｀)
自分が受けるまで信じられない。吹っ飛ぶとは思うけど。
体験してみるといいと思いますよ
入会するまで掛けないっていう先生もいますが
維心館の天野正之先生は初めての体験者でも気さくに掛けてくれます
Chinese subtitle pls 😊
耳や髪の毛はやり過ぎだと思う
これでM1か何かにでればそこそこ笑いが取れるとおもったｗ
合気は誰の中にもある。
筋肉が、合気の力を薄ませている。
合気は、呼吸法と、筋肉を捨て去る修練により復活する。
余分な力は必要ない。
合気のレベルにより、技も高度になる。
完全に筋肉を捨て去った「上級合気」は、背後を感知したり、手を使わずに投げたり相手を固めることができる。(＝固め合気)
頭で相手を投げることもできる。(＝頭合気)
「体の中の合気」＋「呼吸法」＋「円の動き」＋「カウンター」＋「スピード」＋「力点」＝全てを合わせて合気道という。
The “Aiki” is inner force.
The aiki is in everybody's body.
A muscle decrease the quality of the aiki.
The aiki revives by an exercise to throw away muscle.
Over power is not necessary.
最後の骨法の方が気になるw
假的吧?
大東流が柔道に勝てないって言ってる人、なんかあった？
小男の武田が負けても普通だろうし、どちらも剣術派生の組打技術なんだから個人の技量差を以って流派の優劣を評するとはね、なんとも。
個人の技量差をもって流派の優劣は測れない、という意見はその通りだと思う。
でもぶっちゃけ、実質的には柔道の方が強いと言い切ってしまえるほど実力差が出るけどね。
フィジカルが違いすぎ。
達人になったら強いんだろうが、99.9%の人は何十年稽古しても合気なる技術を得られず、達人になんかなれないわけで。
有時候真的非常討厭這種人,1:00--1:35是在耍我們就對了,連碰都沒碰到就可以把對方弄倒,我跟一個日本老師學習合氣道這麼久了,說真的有些技法也是需要借助對方的力,如果對方把力給散掉你的技法也做不成,不可能說沒碰到對方身體就可以把人弄倒,你他媽的演戲也要演的合情合理,我也曾經找過很多網路上的影片去問教我合氣道的老師,也證實1:00--1:35這種技法不可能,如果你單單只是突然把手朝對方的臉打過去,那對方還有可能因為嚇到而往後倒,但是絕對不可能會往前倒....馬的...就是因為有這種專門跳合氣道舞的小丑才會讓別人認為所有的合氣道都是騙吃拐幹.....
接下來就是3:08--3:24的這個技法,這個就必須要對方也同時使力才能做的到,如果對方把力給放掉,那這個技法連做都別想做成,別跟我講這師範會氣功把對方的手吸住....如果這麼神就去打一場真的的擂台賽給大家看看,別在講什麼不爭不鬥
真的騙很大
受けがステップしてちゃダメだよ
藤平光一の著書には、武田惣角が素人と喧嘩して前歯を折られて失神したことが記録されている。大東流合気柔術の技は素人相手にさえ通じない。
不要再污辱大東流柔術了
まったくわからん
Absolutely ridiculous
Aiki is indeed real. That display seems pretty choreographed and fake though.
弟子たちはどういう気持ちでこんな演技してんのかな、昔からの疑問
なてた
なやな
演技のうまいジジイだな
催眠術と同じレベル
催眠術はかかる人によって、味覚が変わるとか記憶が飛ぶとかは10人中3.4人ていうところですが、
大東流合気柔術の方はちゃんと万人にかかるようにできてますね。
受け身を知らないとこんなにきれいに決まらずに、もっとグチャッとつぶれる感じになりますが
偽物多し。
たまに本物
これらはかける人より、かけられる人の方が難しい演舞だと思われる
そんな事はないですよ。かける方がはるかに難しいです。
ん〜
何もしらずにやられたら、人間棒じゃないんだから反射的に足がでたり、掴んだ手を離したりしちゃいそうなのいっぱいあるけどなぁ、手首をきめられる技の中にはやられそうなのは確かにあるけど。。
atsunori imaeda 受けのほうが難しい。ということは、何か特殊な受け身でも練習するようなイメージですか？そんなことしません。ただの前周りと後方回転受け身だけです。受け身が身についてない人にだって技をかけます。もちろん、かける方が多少かげんしますけど。
atsunori imaeda よろしかったら、川越や武蔵野市、北浦和で稽古がありますので体験なさってみて下さい。大東流合気柔術 維心館です。
@@tube86000408 みなさん結局最後は体験しろっていうんですよね
ちょっと遠いけど、動画撮影とUA-camにあげるのokしてもらえるならいこうかな
For the most part, a complete load of bull$h!t.
This is mostly bs. Most of those techniques wouldn't work on aggressive, fully resisting opponents.
Try attacking a real master and see for yourself!
@@susanohara4274 I train in this art. Just saying that many of these demo type videos are more about trying to impress people with magical aiki techniques that really wouldn't be applicable in real life. What they should show instead are the actual techniques that could be applied on the street. Shihonage, kote hinari, kote maki, kote gaeshi, ude osae, ude garame, maki gatame, etc, etc.
@@SOPACHNAYA These combat effective techniques are "secrets" taught personally by the master to his disciples. The authentic transmission of these techniques is always personal.
決まり事の中でしか投げられないでしょ？
それは、あってる
いわば、カウンターなんだ これ
ジャンルは 体当たりになるかな？
合気首投げは知らん！
これは、おかしい！
合気は技法ではないこの説明は嘘
アーク無 技なのですから、技法に間違いないと思いますが。
こんなの無理だろ、、、ヤラセだよ。
達人は保護されているっ
弟子にしか勝てない
樹一嘘 くんへ岡本正剛先生は極真会館の高段者でもある人です。若い頃は異種格闘技戦も戦った有名な人ですよ。ボクシングやレスリングの五輪候補者などにも勝利した事がありますのも有名すぎる事柄です。それも全部やらせと言うのなら証拠を出す必要が生じますよ。名誉毀損罪は日本ではもう厳密です。弟子の人や身内の人が本当に怒っていますよ。取り敢えず監督官庁の担当官へ伝えたから電話が行きますよ。反省が必要です。よく知りもせずに人を不当に侮辱する事は犯罪になるのは公民の授業でも習いましたね？以上。
相変わらず捏造ばかりしているな。岡本 正剛が極真会館に属していた記録は存在しないから、岡本 正剛は極真空手の段位は全く持っていない。岡本 正剛が武道を始めたのは３８歳なので、若い時に異種格闘技戦を戦ったことなど一度も無い。岡本 正剛はボクシングやレスリングの五輪候補者など相手に勝ったどころか、対戦したことさえない。
HollyNihon 刃牙ネタコメ←名誉毀損と激おこマジレスコメ←こいつはこいつで話を捏造してるとツッコまれる
何だこの流れ
岡本さんが極真出身なのは初耳だわ。
@@user-sx6st1qo6c 2年経ったがまだかのお〜？
合気は技法ではないこの説明は嘘