deleting all my sims 4 cc & switching to MAXIS MATCH?!

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  • @Paradox_Incognito
    @Paradox_Incognito Рік тому +3869

    Maxis match keeps me alive because
    A: my computer won't burst into flames at the poly count, and
    B: it matches the style of the game

    • @miintyxoink
      @miintyxoink Рік тому +44

      In my opinion I don't like maxis match, it's too clay like

    • @SweetShadowShade
      @SweetShadowShade Рік тому +80

      You forgot C. Because when you download a broken one and you see it on sims 4 townies 😂

    • @gjstrusgu
      @gjstrusgu Рік тому +78

      @@miintyxoink ikr but it makes me feel so good when my sims feel like they belong to the world lol

    • @nohemi6899
      @nohemi6899 Рік тому +71

      I adore Maxis Match. It has come a VERY long way since the start of the game. It makes me so happy.

    • @SweetShadowShade
      @SweetShadowShade Рік тому +43

      @@nohemi6899 it really has!! It’s so cute and alpha is kinda just odd now…

  • @alicefoy1062
    @alicefoy1062 Рік тому +1971

    Sasha downloading new cc is like sending me into the mall or target

    • @pinksunoo9799
      @pinksunoo9799 Рік тому +11

      You just be rich then because to buy this much would be expensive

    • @pj437
      @pj437 Рік тому

      This!! 😂

    • @pastelvmp
      @pastelvmp 6 місяців тому

      real

    • @airim1155
      @airim1155 3 місяці тому

      REAL😊

  • @littlestar3356
    @littlestar3356 Рік тому +284

    For maxis match cc I also recommend okruee, nolansims, ridgeport, kumikya, jellymoo, simkoos, sentate, oakiyo, trillyke, nesurii, lamatisse, joliebean, sforzcc, arethabee, Aladdin the simmer, ceeproductions, sleepingsims, Johnnysimmer and casteru!

  • @christopherc7322
    @christopherc7322 Рік тому +1895

    One of us! One of us!

  • @gayxiao3350
    @gayxiao3350 Рік тому +1084

    Doing a cc purge can be so satisfying, but i also have anxiety about never finding something again so ill make another folder and repeat for several years and then just realize i have a ts4cc 'backup' folder with a scary amount of folders that have even more folders and it never ends,,

    • @rolandbaldwin
      @rolandbaldwin Рік тому

      The Curseforge app lets you see what you have and delete it from there. Sims Studio is great too for isolating broken cc.

    • @ColorOfCozy
      @ColorOfCozy Рік тому +19

      I just started downloading CC and I am still an amateur at it 😂 so I never am able to remember my old CC I had. I just say oh well 🥲 maybe I’ll see it one day

    • @rolandbaldwin
      @rolandbaldwin Рік тому +14

      @@ColorOfCozy I have so many bald Sims going around from when I deleted all my alpha hairs. I usually use the makeover chair to fix them but it is really painful when you have to filter down your cc.

    • @Colorcrayons
      @Colorcrayons Рік тому +29

      There is a good backcatalogue of CC that has evaporated by creators leaving and taking their stuff with them. So I too do not delete.
      Instead, I create what I like to call the "CAS CC MALL".
      This is all the CAS CC that is not currently in use in my save. If I want to go through and give a sim new stuff, I through the CAS CC MALL into my mods folder, makeover the sim, use better exceptions for the CC finder tool, put all of that chosen CC into my normal CC folder in my mods, then take the CAS CC MALL folder back out of my game and place it back into a folder reserved for resting mods.
      This not only makes it so I never lose old good CC, but it makes my game run/load so much faster since it isnt groaning under the weight of a lot of CC not even being used during a game but is forced to load anyways if it was in my mod folder.

    • @-MrsG-
      @-MrsG- Рік тому +4

      @@Colorcrayonsthat’s utterly amazing!

  • @rolandbaldwin
    @rolandbaldwin Рік тому +383

    Sasha, you need Clumsy Alien in your game. Their CC is amazing! I used to love alpha but recently I started turning my alpha Sims into MM Sims but keeping through to their essence with MM CC.

    • @onyxlindsey
      @onyxlindsey Рік тому +20

      Y'all who's gonna tell her about okruee cuz if she thought her game was gonna explode befor......¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

    • @rolandbaldwin
      @rolandbaldwin Рік тому +1

      @@onyxlindsey I love Okruee too. Such great CC. I think I found most of these creators from a site that lists the best cc. Clumsy Alien I learned about from Mollie/English Simmer.

    • @emilyy9008
      @emilyy9008 Рік тому +5

      @@onyxlindsey YESS i love okruee

    • @Stayville_Clown
      @Stayville_Clown Рік тому +5

      Clumsy Alien makes the best MM CC in my opinion. It’s so cute and I can’t live without their cc in my game.

    • @SimqlyNyx
      @SimqlyNyx Рік тому +2

      they quite literally saved my game, my computer was crashing from the alpha and I have never had any crashes with maxis match even with the 700+ cc I have :)

  • @kevangreen3569
    @kevangreen3569 Рік тому +381

    jonny sims has amazing male hairs, just so you know Sasha.

    • @vivid_raconteurxx
      @vivid_raconteurxx Рік тому +14

      I know this was for Sasha but that’s extremely helpful for me too thank you 🙏🏼

    • @3starsburningbright
      @3starsburningbright Рік тому +6

      YES!!! johnny sims is amazing

    • @entlestove4318
      @entlestove4318 Рік тому +8

      Yes!! I swear all my male sims have hair by them lmao

    • @mychemicalwarfare69
      @mychemicalwarfare69 Рік тому +3

      he’s literally one of the only ones i use for male hair lol

    • @nohemi6899
      @nohemi6899 Рік тому +2

      YES! They make amazing male hairs. Gets me excited to make male Sims.

  • @inkygreen
    @inkygreen Рік тому +404

    I always found alpha to just take me out of the game. Since the style is such a huge departure from the sims 4 art style. It doesnt look bad, it just never felt like it belonged imo. MM cc creators really do amazing work to create beautiful cc that seamleasly fit into the game.

    • @callmeobsequious
      @callmeobsequious Рік тому +4

      Exactlyyyyy

    • @pathetic2399
      @pathetic2399 9 місяців тому +6

      Alpha cc straight up just looks like second life most of the time lmao

  • @plaguedoctorwithacookie1095
    @plaguedoctorwithacookie1095 Рік тому +193

    Another maxis cc creator I personally love for clothes // hair is Clumsyalien her cc is so pretty
    Also Red Head Sims makes some cute toddler / Child hairs

  • @DesertBloomBettas
    @DesertBloomBettas Рік тому +79

    I used to do a lot of alpha cc, until one day i just got tired of trying to match alpha cc... because everyone does it so differently. I switched to maxis match and haven't looked back. it certainly made my townies look a lot better when they randomly generated - because even if they sometimes dress crazy, at least they have a similar style to them (before I inevitably give them makeovers).

    • @AlM22
      @AlM22 Рік тому +5

      Damn.. I didn't even think of that. Haha yeah, I use alpha and a lot of the randomly generated sims are, um, interesting looking to put it lightly. I sometimes edit them in CAS to put normal outfits on them lol. It must be more harmonious with maxis match

  • @tylerhasit7313
    @tylerhasit7313 Рік тому +59

    hearing her talk about having 100+ hair ccs and mentioning worries over the game opening like i don't have over 700+ hair cc alone, let alone even more for kids is amazing. i was like "woah, that is a lot! the game might not load. oh wait-"

    • @namee466
      @namee466 Рік тому +2

      How much gb does it take on your computer

    • @WHOOGETGONRE
      @WHOOGETGONRE Рік тому +1

      me rn because even though i’m maxis match my storage is pretty filled, I still use the laptop for school too but school takes up zero space because we don’t rlly download stuff for work. I have about 13.7gb on my laptop rn.

    • @yourmomsnewwife
      @yourmomsnewwife 10 місяців тому

      I only use my laptop for sims and i think i have 4000+ cc (mostly mm). It takes my game 30 minutes to open 😅

  • @SparkleWolf404
    @SparkleWolf404 Рік тому +65

    I could never get into Alpha CC since while nice in a vacuum it clashes hard with the rest of the game, I look at photos of Alpha sims and think "Is this a screenshot from second life?"

    • @SparkleWolf404
      @SparkleWolf404 Рік тому +5

      @hatzistu Never played that game but I think it also falls under it. I have had times when I click on what I think is alpha CC clothing off google images and it takes me to the second life store though

  • @lalaitscherryxo1711
    @lalaitscherryxo1711 Рік тому +37

    I’m screaming because that SimsTrouble curly half up half down hairstyle is my favorite too. Whenever I want to make a sim who I decide is the prettiest girl in SimsVille, I give her that hair lol

    • @sydney-.
      @sydney-. Рік тому +2

      One of their hairs I found from an older video and I went DEEP to find it but it's my absolute favorite hair it's so beautiful 🥹

  • @femglover1862
    @femglover1862 Рік тому +16

    I actually organize my mods folder by creator, it makes it easier to find and remove any cc I don't use. I will say I agree with you on simstrouble having amazing curly hair!

  • @GrapeSoda49
    @GrapeSoda49 Рік тому +88

    You always find the cutest CC

    • @vixenovas385
      @vixenovas385 Рік тому +3

      I'm slowly turning into a maxis match girly and I'm not regretting it haha

  • @NaishiYT
    @NaishiYT Рік тому +57

    Dude, I literally did the same exact thing a few days ago! I only had alpha cc and I hated maxis match but then recently, I’ve been into maxis match more so I deleted all my alpha cc and got all maxis match stuff lol. I sometimes regret it until I look at how cute my sims come out with alpha😂

  • @madilyn7138
    @madilyn7138 Рік тому +8

    I too recently switched to Maxis Match and it was the best idea I’ve had in a long time. The hame runs so much smoother.

  • @sweetarollmlp177
    @sweetarollmlp177 Рік тому +11

    Tbh maxis match hair and alpha hair are both REALLY good. And for like 2 weeks I was hesitating between the 2 but I ended up taking alpha because the choices of colors in maxis hair is always the same and it's very limited for what I want to do. But I did keep the maxis hair in another folder on my computer, just in case I want to switch again or am able find a way to get way more hair color options that actually works

  • @evieward.x
    @evieward.x Рік тому +8

    i feel like maxis match hairs fit in better!! like with base game sims and stuff it just makes ur sims blend in with the game better

  • @itz_me_vi
    @itz_me_vi Рік тому +25

    The first thing I saw was "deleting all my Sims 4 cc" and I immediately say "OH NO SHE DID NOT" then I read the rest and relaxed a bit 😅

  • @cynthiavalencia724
    @cynthiavalencia724 Рік тому +2

    You have inspired me to make the switch! Most of my alpha hairs are broken now so I think it’s time! And you’re right, maxis match cc has come a long way. Thanks for the inspiration!

  • @cozysweetpotato
    @cozysweetpotato Рік тому +6

    The best part about maxis match is that it’s lower in polys which means you can have more of it with less lag 😈

  • @cathyemma1579
    @cathyemma1579 Рік тому +39

    You know when “that girl” just decides to give herself bangs… “just to change things up”… it’s feeling like that moment Sasha…

  • @katydidwhat
    @katydidwhat Рік тому

    YAYYYY I literally been waiting for this you are one of my favorite simmers ever

  • @AlM22
    @AlM22 Рік тому +4

    I've always used Alpha and plan to continue to do so, however watching this made me appreciate how cute Maxis Match can be..
    Perhaps someday I'll try moving my existing cc out and just use maxis match to see how it is

  • @sazjay3174
    @sazjay3174 Рік тому +5

    totally agree maxis match is looking better these days for sure I want those carebear jeans for my teen (she's a Simfluencer in my game), the hairs look so cute, i am worried if i download them before the patch or EP that it will not work cos I'm not very technical when it comes to CC so I am downloading all these and then when i have the new EP eventaully i can install all that Maxis match CC 😊

  • @laneyloowells
    @laneyloowells Рік тому

    okruee is definitely my favorite mm hair creator, everything they’ve made is amazing

  • @DanielaLopez-jd8vf
    @DanielaLopez-jd8vf Рік тому

    i swear my phone can read my mind! i was thinking about going maxis match 5 seconds before i opened youtube up and saw your video on my recommended! it’s a sign and new sub 💗

  • @alliewantstogohome
    @alliewantstogohome Рік тому +1

    Istg I owe you my life for these CC vids. My sims look cute as hell 😮‍💨🤌🏼

  • @laila.jw08
    @laila.jw08 Рік тому +4

    i used alpha for years but maxis has my heart, i spent hours giving all my townies alpha makeovers so i never ended up playing the actual game lmao

  • @warworldme
    @warworldme Рік тому +1

    Everytime I watch one of your cc videos I have to go into my game and change some and download new ones 🤣🤣 I love doing it tho!! I'll be downloading some of those hairs

  • @PapiGuillen
    @PapiGuillen Рік тому +5

    Some sims hairs I really like are from a creator called The kunstwollen. They have a ton of pretty high quality male hairs

  • @athinadillmann9234
    @athinadillmann9234 Рік тому

    That’s the reason why I have every piece of CC paired with a picture of it. Hell of a work. But when the old stuff was organized that way (putting a few things in the game, screenshot of every item, putting the next few in and moving the first ones out and so on), I loved it immediately and I've always done it this way ever since. I know exactly which package.file is which thing in the game. 😊

  • @archer421
    @archer421 Рік тому

    For clothes and hair I highly recommend clumsy alien! I love everything from their collection

  • @godsprincess4352
    @godsprincess4352 Рік тому +1

    Keep up the awesome work you make my day every time you post I love you keep up

  • @LizzyBear02
    @LizzyBear02 Рік тому +1

    My personal fave maxis match cc creator is Aretha they do so many collections and collabs and it’s all gorgeous!

  • @pastelvmp
    @pastelvmp 6 місяців тому +1

    im tempted to do maxis mix bc everyone has a lot of maxis match content BUT IM SO IN LOVE WITH ALPHA RN IM CRYING

  • @fahimredwan
    @fahimredwan Рік тому +1

    Love your sims videos❤❤

  • @betsyanderson9442
    @betsyanderson9442 Рік тому

    simstrouble is my all-time fav for mm hairs, and felixandre for mm furniture!

  • @mylesawayy
    @mylesawayy Рік тому

    i had no idea this was a thing thank you for this graceful video

  • @stardom2290
    @stardom2290 Рік тому

    YESSSSSS I WAS WAITING FOR THIS

  • @bristritz1051
    @bristritz1051 Рік тому

    Girl! you got me redoing my entire mods folder.

  • @Josi1810
    @Josi1810 Рік тому +2

    JohnnySims is making amazing male maxis match hair! I love them sooo much!

  • @CoriMarcucci
    @CoriMarcucci Рік тому

    This is so cathartic as player who used to play on mac but now play on ps4. i miss all the cc and mods!

  • @audreybruce6607
    @audreybruce6607 Рік тому

    Hey vixella! I'm finally early I just got a PC and I'm going to go CC shopping!! I love the cottage living series!!

  • @Emzy741
    @Emzy741 Рік тому +1

    WHATTTTT BUT UR THE ALPHA CC QUEENNNNNN

  • @annika6043
    @annika6043 Рік тому

    This Hair omg so pretty I'm in love🥰

  • @specialjets
    @specialjets Рік тому

    Tass I’m getting rid all of my cc and using this I love it and I getting spot of clothes!! Tysm I didn’t know this existed!!

  • @macaron6687
    @macaron6687 Рік тому +2

    AAHH I'm so happy you linked to creators! My PC I play the sims 4 on literally sucks and either bursts into flames or glitches out alpha cc (hair)
    literally alpha type hair will not work in my game :(
    but i have been struggling to find good maxis match hair on The Sims Resource so im def going to download like a million of those hairs! ♡

    • @HorizonOfTheEra
      @HorizonOfTheEra Рік тому

      If you want maxis-match toddler stuff, I recommend casteru and powluna. For males, definitely hit up johnny sims.

  • @Shine_bright-se6qv
    @Shine_bright-se6qv 7 місяців тому

    NOT NE INLOVE WITH THE GIRL SIM OMGGGGGG😭 when I start playing with on my computer I’m gonna download SO MUCH OMG

  • @Randxm374
    @Randxm374 4 місяці тому +2

    I stan Maxis Match. I hate it when my Sims look too real!

  • @AvrageWhiteGuy
    @AvrageWhiteGuy 6 місяців тому

    I recently started playing the sims again, and I was looking to install CC.
    Im so gladI stumbled upon this video, all the creators linked are so talanted!

  • @shortysamaa
    @shortysamaa Рік тому +1

    I made the switch back in January and I’m so happy with it !!! Maxis creators are top tier plus my sim doesn’t look out of place next to the rest of the townies

  • @stormostler
    @stormostler Рік тому

    okuree and sheabuttyr have some of my favorite hairs!

  • @K4ti3_N
    @K4ti3_N Рік тому

    It feels illegal to be this earlier!! I love your videos, I even have a tik tok fan account of you💖🥰

  • @ashleymckean9284
    @ashleymckean9284 Рік тому

    I put on your videos for my dog before I go to work ❤️😂

  • @whoisteigan
    @whoisteigan Рік тому

    finally the moment we’ve been waiting for ❤️

  • @poppy7933
    @poppy7933 Рік тому +2

    maxis match has definitely come a long way these past couple of years, glad i made the switch!

  • @andreasamardzija1496
    @andreasamardzija1496 Рік тому +1

    You can move the clothes to another folder on an external hard drive so it doesn't cause your game to lag. At my peak, I would sometimes go back to the sites, check the names, make a list and then erase or keep things depending on my goal.

  • @marsfern_
    @marsfern_ 11 місяців тому

    YES IVE MISSED YOUR MAXIS MATCH SIMS

  • @Percy_PotterEdits21
    @Percy_PotterEdits21 Рік тому +6

    One time my game was broken and I had to delete all of my cc, I now only use maxis match now (having few exeptions), I think it looks better.

  • @mydestiny7989
    @mydestiny7989 Рік тому

    I need to go download those care bear pants now lol and I love that I see a couple hairs I have that you downloaded in this video

  • @yae9685
    @yae9685 Рік тому

    i feel u sm- simstrouble hair always getting me on my knees
    rn i have maxis match fever bcuz of the update thats gonna be REALLY SOON

  • @gerline6876
    @gerline6876 9 місяців тому +2

    Get a cc organiser thing application. It works perfect and you can see what you delete and sometimes just deactivate it instead of deleting it

  • @lordjigglebottoms
    @lordjigglebottoms 8 місяців тому +2

    I do strictly maxis match hair, and mix clothing. Especially shoes, I am a sucker for certain alpha shoes.

  • @N1SPECIAL
    @N1SPECIAL Рік тому +1

    simandy and clumsyalien also have some of the best hair cc you should look at!!

  • @-LydiaXedits
    @-LydiaXedits 7 місяців тому +1

    You have officially motivated me to do this bye bye alpha cc *squints eyes* *deletes*

  • @golden.skilly
    @golden.skilly 8 місяців тому +1

    Maxis match is love, maxis match is life

  • @zxii5757
    @zxii5757 Рік тому

    I NEED that lip slider Omggg

  • @noellebaca6872
    @noellebaca6872 Рік тому +4

    sasha if you need more maxis match hair for masculine sims, johnnysims is the absolute holy grail

  • @zannytaylor742
    @zannytaylor742 Рік тому

    I love Simstrouble I love their hair soo much

  • @lumpypizzadough444
    @lumpypizzadough444 Рік тому +1

    i only use maxis match - for some reason i love it sooo much it tickles a certain fancy 🤪

  • @sillypotterhead222
    @sillypotterhead222 Рік тому

    you NEED to check out the clothes &shoes section from miiko!! they have soooo cute clothes

  • @patriciaclobes3839
    @patriciaclobes3839 Рік тому +1

    Clumsyalien, Okruee, Daylifesims, and Feralpoodles also has some good maxis match hairstyles

  • @lisaamaru4618
    @lisaamaru4618 11 місяців тому

    we need more of these videos, right guys? WE LOVE UR VIDEOS

  • @a_random_fangirl9618
    @a_random_fangirl9618 Рік тому

    I switched to Maxis match cc like maybe half a year ago, and I'm so glad I did that! I normally use a mix of cc and in-game stuff, and with Alpha cc it's not really possible to do that

  • @malinnilsen5188
    @malinnilsen5188 Рік тому +1

    I've spent the last two weeks going through EVERY SINGLE ONE of my 35,000 cc items by using Sims 4 Studio, simply because I want to try out Maxis Match but feel like I can't do that before I've organized and deleted things I don't want or use. I'm currently down to 3,700 files and I am SO done with I just want to play but alas I cannot because I started this journey and I need to finish it

  • @Starxo190
    @Starxo190 Рік тому +15

    I’m in my maxis mix era rn and I’m living for it but I miss my alpha hair so muchhhh 😭

  • @Random_Weirdo2010
    @Random_Weirdo2010 Рік тому

    Watching these makes me wish I wasn't on console but I luv ur vids

  • @EroDhika
    @EroDhika Рік тому

    that chandler hair
    I WANT THAT SIM IN MY GAME

  • @faygrace824
    @faygrace824 Рік тому

    The return of the queen!!

  • @KeKayBee
    @KeKayBee Рік тому +2

    For me maxis match is literally AMAZING and furniture too

  • @cococadieux9911
    @cococadieux9911 Рік тому

    YESSSSSS SASHA I WASSS WAITING lol made the switch a long time ago

  • @ntsims
    @ntsims 7 місяців тому

    ive always loved both but for some reason ive been enjoying maxis match a lot lately 😅😊

  • @jettpack12
    @jettpack12 Рік тому +1

    I saw a person chanting One of us! One of us! And I think that’s beautiful and something we should continue

  • @shazz-kx4zu
    @shazz-kx4zu Рік тому

    The Katara hair with the loopies are my favourite 😂👌🏻

  • @Dani.bannani
    @Dani.bannani 7 місяців тому

    maxis mix is a vibe co you have the alpha aspects but your sims still fit in with the world

  • @uotaniset
    @uotaniset Рік тому

    greenllamas is my fav to download from!!

  • @xKiNaDaNiElLex
    @xKiNaDaNiElLex Рік тому

    Im so tempted to do the same, I want to get rid of ALL my CC and completely do a refresh of them. But i have so many that i have picked over the years idk which is which LOL. Not to mention I have a bunch of broken CC items too and havent figured out which is what xd Anyways awesome video!

  • @faevani
    @faevani Рік тому

    the way i gasped when you deleted EVERYTHING omg

  • @blessedbyacurse
    @blessedbyacurse Рік тому

    I just had to fully reinstall my sims game after buying a new computer so the timing of this video is perfect for me!

  • @austinaguillard7179
    @austinaguillard7179 Рік тому

    been waiting for this day

  • @vixenovas385
    @vixenovas385 Рік тому +4

    As an ex alpha cc downloader, I'd say maxis cc works a lot better for my pc and less laggy in-game. I also love how cute it is because sometimes alpha cc would scare me Lol

  • @rosy3447
    @rosy3447 Рік тому +1

    you should check out aretha their cc is so good!they have hairs, shoes, clothes, and accessories!

  • @ambargiselle7
    @ambargiselle7 Рік тому

    I can't remember were I downloaded it but there's also more swatches that you can download for the packs hairs. And some creators include more colors in their CC.

  • @breannarhoden354
    @breannarhoden354 6 місяців тому

    I used to love alpha when I played a couple years ago, started playing again and decided maybe I'd try mm and it just fits the game so well. Never going back

  • @buttercup313
    @buttercup313 Рік тому

    I'm doing the same thing. I've been downloading a little at a time the last few days 😂 I'm addicted to CC.

  • @Colorcrayons
    @Colorcrayons Рік тому +3

    Weird timing. Last week I went on a binge and DL'ed about 500 pieces of MM hairs.
    The decision came after tirelessly looking for an alpha that mimiced the stock Yuki/Sofia hair from Windenburg, but to no avail. I found a great hair by a great creator that goes by "The Kunstwollen". (Be very careful and do not misread that, as that german phrase is easy to make it seem like a very NSFW thing in english) who make MM hair that is a great compromises between the strandy 3 dimensionality of alpha, and the opacity of Maxis. I love this hair and I feel it works well in a crowd of alpha or clay hairs alike. I hope more creators continue this trend, as it is the compromise that I think sims 4 hair really needed. It's nice not having my Kujiko eye lashes shine through my hairs now. If you do alpha, you know what I mean.

  • @AwesomesauceeeeeEeee
    @AwesomesauceeeeeEeee Рік тому

    YESS SHE'S BACK

  • @tamaraann8797
    @tamaraann8797 11 місяців тому

    I just got the itch today to switch lol I think it’s the new pack thing for sure! 😆