Man you keep up these videos your gonna be getting paid. Footage, editing, and explanations spot on 👌🏻 I’d love to have a little hot rod motor in my s10. Jay has me itching watching him swap my old truck.
Great video man! I'm glad people are starting to find out that you don't want a car to squat. Rob's rod shop has a couple of great videos about rear suspension theory, but you nailed it too. I ran my '82 GT on stock suspension with a slick last night and it could've gone better to say the least. It went 1.79 to the 60' but I'm on basically a stock 302 and T5 lol
This set up transfers more force to the lower control arms too, the stock suspension puts a pulling force on the stock torque boxes, pulling them away from the body, at least if you are side stepping the clutch at 4500 in second gear...
@@Boostismyfriend glad you explained this. Most people tell you about changing the instant center never explain how it changes and how it makes the car leave.
The wife hates it, I told her she better hope Biden don’t get in, if he does she better hope he don’t get 2 terms, I will be look like ZZ Top by the time this shits over,
@@Boostismyfriend haha. She’ll learn to like it. Just like mine did. Now she can’t stand my ugly mug without it. And Jon said you were doing it bc Biden lol.
My understanding is you want to corner weight the car, figure out your center of gravity, then align your instant center as close as possible to the COG.
Man I'm glad I found your channel. I've got all team z suspension under my car but have no idea what I'm doing. I'm running 6.0x at 116 with a 1.47 60'. My car spins when it shouldnt at times. I will try the moving the lower bar down as I'm in the top hole and bar is only slightly angled up at ride height so I imagine that line is way far forward
That’s cool man! I should have a GoPro video on my atc coming up. The onley problem is the motor is starting to blow up I change the oil in it. But oil is coming out of the crank case tube I put the right amount of oil in it. I think I’m gonna take apart the motor and go through it with my dad.
Subbed purely on this video. I appreciate this, very helpful. What wheel size and backspace/tire combo were you running back in this video? I'm trying to run stock spring location. Honest opinion. Do you recommend I simply go straight to the coilover/shortened/minitub?
Appreciate it, 15x8 with 5.5, you can run a 15x10!with 6.5 but you have to take a hammer to the inside high spots on the tub’s, I personally like that stock locations stuff, it worked well (1.15 60ft’s)
The only relocation brackets you have on your car are the rear lower arms ?? I have a 89 mustang with control arms like yours except all mine mount in the stock location. I can’t seem to get mine to hook when I turn on my nitrous.
Subscribed!! Buddy thanks so much for this video! I finally pulled my 1992 coupe out last year to be worked on. I bought the car Brand New in 1992! Anyways with a simple HCI setup on the stock bottom end at 2300' above sea level with no tune and stock 19# injectors, my car ran a 12.36 @ 110 mph quarter mile with a 1.60 sixty foot. This is with welded torque boxes, adjustable uppers, aluminum lowers, stock rear springs, stock rear shocks, and an anti roll bar similar to the one you have. I am going to invest in a set of adjustable rear shocks like yours for sure. What model # are those strange shocks?? Anyways I spent more on parts last year for my car than what I paid for the car brand new in '92. lol. It's getting a V3 SI, a Terminator X Max, and a crap load of other work done to it. If your interested to know everything I'm putting into it or everything it has I will post it! BTW I ran that E.T. twenty five years ago, having two kids put everything on the back burner for me.
Very informative video. My rear were almost full soft and spun the tires so fast. Adjusting to harder setting is much better. What setting should the front be? More hard or soft?
There stiffs, I honestly never measured the anti sqaut, I pretty much have always eyeballed stuff from what I know works, if I had to guess it probably in the mid 110’s but I can measure tomorrow
I was just curious. With anything above 100% I’m sure the stiff walls are a must... I’ve been debating on putting pro bracket radials (26”)on the car as we run 1/4mile here.... and being my car is stock location everything I was considering South side machine style lower control arms to achieve separation and planting the tires
I know this video is 4 months old but I am doing a sn95 rear disc conversion on my fox. Did you have to do any other mods like a different proportion valve? Or just hook up lines , bleed brakes and back at it.
It’s not really something that is sold, teddy houser race cars, ( guy who built Steve Jackson shadow, killin time orange mustang) is local to me, it’s some brackets he has laser cut to use on his race cars, I got them off him and had my buddy Nigel weld them on
You seem to know what your talking about, I looked for a video for my mustang to use aftermarket coil overs mounted towards the center section, my question is should the shock be mounted straight up or the top toward the front of car or the top of the shock leaned back towards the back of the rear of car. If that makes sense to you? If so what kind of degree of a pitch should I have? Or no pitch at all, straight up and down mounted to the bar above and tabs welded to the axle housing.
The more ridge the rear suspension is the less angle you have to run, unjoints are design to run opposite of each other, meaning if your front yoke is +1or +2 then you rear u joint will be happy at -1 or -2, as long as the pinion is 0 to - side of anything the car will work fine, if the pinion is positive it will bite then unload the tires a few feet out from my experience
@@Boostismyfriend ok need to suck the tire in.thanks for the info.where can I send you some pictures of my car it has a lot of potentials twin bw 69 418 9to 1 comp power glide 273 gears
So you used a stock sn95 caliper bracket and cut it to slide around the axle housing. I’d imagine you used a sn95 caliper and disc as well? Trying to do this conversion myself at the moment actually. And you spaced the caliper away from the bracket 3/4 of an inch?
@@davidpeterson9125 you bolt the bracket straight to the flange, basically you run the bolts threw the bracket, threw the flange to the c clip eliminators, then you washer the two bolts that hold the caliper to get the right spacing, most of the time it’s less then 1/4 of a inch
Yes sir, the further down the more bite it will have, basically you want it as fair down as you can get it if your tires will clear, you also have to work off the shocks, so if i have it as fair down and the car hooks but then rolls out and kick the tires, if my shocks are over half way tight then i want to move it up a whole, you want it to be able to hook with the rebound 0-5 click from loose is what works for us
@@Boostismyfriend I have a coilover kit on the car so tire clearance will not be an issue. I have lowered the mounting point about an 1 1/2" and I will follow your shock setting advice I will see how that works once the tracks around here re-open, Thank you
@@Boostismyfriend I need to upgrade my 8.8 but saw a Ford 9 inch setup for Foxbody and comes with axles and Torino big bearing ends. I heard those are better than c clip eliminators?
hands down the best explanation I have found on rear suspension!!!
I appreciate that
Best suspension video I've seen I never thought to jack up my stang a check my shocks like that, great video!
Thanks!
Man you keep up these videos your gonna be getting paid. Footage, editing, and explanations spot on 👌🏻 I’d love to have a little hot rod motor in my s10. Jay has me itching watching him swap my old truck.
Thanks for watching, I am ready to see him get it done
Great video again bro, thanks for educating us older guys.
Great video man! I'm glad people are starting to find out that you don't want a car to squat. Rob's rod shop has a couple of great videos about rear suspension theory, but you nailed it too. I ran my '82 GT on stock suspension with a slick last night and it could've gone better to say the least. It went 1.79 to the 60' but I'm on basically a stock 302 and T5 lol
Awesome, rob hangs out at our local track
Very informative for stock style foxbody setups. Thank you sir.
Thanks for watching
This set up transfers more force to the lower control arms too, the stock suspension puts a pulling force on the stock torque boxes, pulling them away from the body, at least if you are side stepping the clutch at 4500 in second gear...
I had a 91 that looked just like that here in Tenn with a 347 stroker motor some yr's ago. Thanks for the video!!
Awesome, thanks for watching
@@Boostismyfriend Welcome Buddy! Thanks for sharing also!!
Best explanation I've seen
Appreciate you watching
Great video, you did a good job of helping me understand the subject matter. 👍
Thanks
Thanks for the info! Cleared up a lot of confusion for me!
Glad i could help, thanks for watching
Good informative video haha I’m no drag racer but now I understand why I didn’t hook well at a test n tune!
Glad it give you some insight on what you can do to get it to hook at test n tune
Awesome video man. Good info but you giving all your secrets away lol. Enjoyed watching it man awesome job
If you make the everyone faster, it will make yourself get faster, #hardwork
@@Boostismyfriend glad you explained this. Most people tell you about changing the instant center never explain how it changes and how it makes the car leave.
Awesome
awesome . I learned a lil today . Waiting for the week end to test and tune and make a video to see what going on with mine
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I know this is an old video but it was full of great info, thanks for posting it, I just subscribed.
I appreciate that
You really explain it where I can understand!
Awesome
Appreciate you making this video bud. Very informative
Appreciate you watching
Man, that a dang good explanation, at least for a newbie like myself. Thanks
Appreciate you watching
Good video. The shock stuff really makes sense more so to me now.
Beard lookin good. Gang gang
The wife hates it, I told her she better hope Biden don’t get in, if he does she better hope he don’t get 2 terms, I will be look like ZZ Top by the time this shits over,
@@Boostismyfriend haha. She’ll learn to like it. Just like mine did. Now she can’t stand my ugly mug without it.
And Jon said you were doing it bc Biden lol.
This will help a lot of people out!
Hopefully it make since to people what I am trying to show
Yessir!! Definitely hit the subscribe button after watching this. Now I just got to get another foxbody. Thanks for the info!
Thanks
My understanding is you want to corner weight the car, figure out your center of gravity, then align your instant center as close as possible to the COG.
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That's a very good video 👍 my respects from south Texas ✌️
I appreciate you watching
Man I'm glad I found your channel. I've got all team z suspension under my car but have no idea what I'm doing. I'm running 6.0x at 116 with a 1.47 60'. My car spins when it shouldnt at times. I will try the moving the lower bar down as I'm in the top hole and bar is only slightly angled up at ride height so I imagine that line is way far forward
I appreciate it, yes you have to bring the instant center back
I wish i could get you to do my rear end.. I have 2 but can't get a damn person to do anything. Great video and understanding
I appreciate it
Great video sir. Excellent explanation for a dummy like me.
Thanks
Man that was very informative thank you so very much sir.
Thanks for watching
Much obliged brother, learned a lot thank ya
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Nice vid 👍
I appreciate it
Great video thanks
Appreciate it
Sammy looks like you knocked about a 100 pounds worth of rubber off the fender wells 😆
lol it’s a lot more then I realized, super mess
Thanks 👍
Appreciate you watching
Do one on anti roll bar adjustment. Rear steer.
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dang 1.16 60' is no joke! doesn't look like anything real fancy either! congrats!
Great explanation thank you
Hope it helps
excellent video...im try to set up my 1990 mustang...I have J@M lower adjustable control arms...should I try these strange shocks...thank u
Its a good budget shock
@@Boostismyfriend thank u
Thanks for this!
Thanks for watching
Thanks for the education
Thanks for watching
Right on
Thanks
Nice video!! Just subbed!! Where are you from?
I appreciate it
@@Boostismyfriend where you from?
Lincolnton North Carolina
@@Boostismyfriend nice! I'm from Charlotte.
Heck yeah
Really good info man learned alot
Cool!!! I picked up a Honda 250x atc the other day
You did man that’s awsome!Two stoke?
It’s 4 stroke, I bought it and a old Honda 300 fourtrax 4 wheeler from the same guy, I have to buy a gasket set so I can reassemble them motor
That’s cool man! I should have a GoPro video on my atc coming up. The onley problem is the motor is starting to blow up I change the oil in it. But oil is coming out of the crank case tube I put the right amount of oil in it. I think I’m gonna take apart the motor and go through it with my dad.
Sweet
since you done this video,you have done more updates to the rear suspension?you car is freaking fast !!!!!!!!!!
I havent, but i can
Good vid on i.c
Thanks
Makes me want to ditch the coilovers & do this set up
It’s simple and works
Subscribed!
Appreciate it
Dude the views on the camaro burnout are insane 668 in 2 days
Congratulations, that’s all you have to keep doing
@@Boostismyfriend I just posted a nasty vid of the Malibu doing one lol
Subbed purely on this video. I appreciate this, very helpful. What wheel size and backspace/tire combo were you running back in this video? I'm trying to run stock spring location.
Honest opinion. Do you recommend I simply go straight to the coilover/shortened/minitub?
Appreciate it, 15x8 with 5.5, you can run a 15x10!with 6.5 but you have to take a hammer to the inside high spots on the tub’s, I personally like that stock locations stuff, it worked well (1.15 60ft’s)
@@Boostismyfriend What gear were you running here? Thank you again, you saved me a lot of money and time!
I had a 3.27 with a 3 speed 400
The only relocation brackets you have on your car are the rear lower arms ??
I have a 89 mustang with control arms like yours except all mine mount in the stock location. I can’t seem to get mine to hook when I turn on my nitrous.
Yes,
Who’s control arm brackets on the lower
These where custom brackets, i have trz on it now
Any chance I could contact you about your setup? I have a few?s and could definitely use your knowledge to help me out
Whats up
Subscribed!! Buddy thanks so much for this video! I finally pulled my 1992 coupe out last year to be worked on. I bought the car Brand New in 1992! Anyways with a simple HCI setup on the stock bottom end at 2300' above sea level with no tune and stock 19# injectors, my car ran a 12.36 @ 110 mph quarter mile with a 1.60 sixty foot. This is with welded torque boxes, adjustable uppers, aluminum lowers, stock rear springs, stock rear shocks, and an anti roll bar similar to the one you have. I am going to invest in a set of adjustable rear shocks like yours for sure. What model # are those strange shocks?? Anyways I spent more on parts last year for my car than what I paid for the car brand new in '92. lol. It's getting a V3 SI, a Terminator X Max, and a crap load of other work done to it. If your interested to know everything I'm putting into it or everything it has I will post it! BTW I ran that E.T. twenty five years ago, having two kids put everything on the back burner for me.
110’s on the rear, I appreciate u
@@Boostismyfriend To me in this particular video, it looks like you might have the S6000EM shocks?
Very informative video. My rear were almost full soft and spun the tires so fast. Adjusting to harder setting is much better.
What setting should the front be? More hard or soft?
Soft till you start wheeliing
Those are stiff sidewall bias ply slicks? When you set up the car how you had it separating. Do you know what your Anti squat percentage was roughly??
There stiffs, I honestly never measured the anti sqaut, I pretty much have always eyeballed stuff from what I know works, if I had to guess it probably in the mid 110’s but I can measure tomorrow
I was just curious. With anything above 100% I’m sure the stiff walls are a must... I’ve been debating on putting pro bracket radials (26”)on the car as we run 1/4mile here.... and being my car is stock location everything I was considering South side machine style lower control arms to achieve separation and planting the tires
@@murray81 I use to have southside bars back in the day, pro brackets is a good tire for most conditions
I know this video is 4 months old but I am doing a sn95 rear disc conversion on my fox. Did you have to do any other mods like a different proportion valve? Or just hook up lines , bleed brakes and back at it.
I used a adjustable proportion valve for the rear
Thanks brother keep up the good info!
You think strange single adj shock be good handle 4.80 stock suspension mustang on slicks
Full tight you might get there
What are those plates called to adjust or lower the rear, lower control arm?
8.8 lca brackets
How’d you do at Dig or Die. Car looked good on couple live streams I watched
Miscommunication in the second round put me out
Still did awesome. Nothing to be ashamed of competing with what was there.
Whos lower control arm brackets do you have
It’s not really something that is sold, teddy houser race cars, ( guy who built Steve Jackson shadow, killin time orange mustang) is local to me, it’s some brackets he has laser cut to use on his race cars, I got them off him and had my buddy Nigel weld them on
@@Boostismyfriend oh ok
You seem to know what your talking about, I looked for a video for my mustang to use aftermarket coil overs mounted towards the center section, my question is should the shock be mounted straight up or the top toward the front of car or the top of the shock leaned back towards the back of the rear of car. If that makes sense to you? If so what kind of degree of a pitch should I have? Or no pitch at all, straight up and down mounted to the bar above and tabs welded to the axle housing.
They will work better more vertical, when you mount them slanted it changed the geometry
@@Boostismyfriend so line them up straight up and down will work best you are saying?
Correct
@@Boostismyfriend thanks so much, here goes👍
Nice video bro! I’m running 50 50 on my rear .what struts are you running on the front ?
Viking
@@Boostismyfriend nice do you think the strange front struts are good & if so what should they be set at?
They are, depends on the surface, are they single or double adjustable
@@Boostismyfriend it’s the single will be using them drag racing the car cut a 150 60ft on stock suspension.
1-3 from full loose
Great info! Where do you have your pinion angle at? Thanks
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The more ridge the rear suspension is the less angle you have to run, unjoints are design to run opposite of each other, meaning if your front yoke is +1or +2 then you rear u joint will be happy at -1 or -2, as long as the pinion is 0 to - side of anything the car will work fine, if the pinion is positive it will bite then unload the tires a few feet out from my experience
@@Boostismyfriend Thank you
Good video. Now my problems is,that I have to translate it to spanish 🤔 for my friend in mexico.
Bro I hope you see this can you set my rear suspension???
I can
@@Boostismyfriend what's your Facebook info? I don't know how to message on here
Gray fox
what springs are you running?
Those were stock length gt springs, it now has coil overs on the back
What tire rim and tire size was you running before you mini tub the car and when you move control arm does it lower the rear
15x8 5.5 back spacing snd 15x10 with 6.5, it does lower it on stock location stuff
@@Boostismyfriend I have 10 " 5.5 bought the car with them on it so what problems will I be facing with the 5.5 bs
It will hit the lip on the qaurters
@@Boostismyfriend ok need to suck the tire in.thanks for the info.where can I send you some pictures of my car it has a lot of potentials twin bw 69 418 9to 1 comp power glide 273 gears
Boostismyfriend@aol.com
Can you help me with my foxbody, I'm in North Carolina
I can
@@Boostismyfriend how can I get in touch with you
Facebook grayfox
Hey man I’ve got some questions about that rear disc set up you got. If at all possible is there a way I can message with you or something?
What’s up
So you used a stock sn95 caliper bracket and cut it to slide around the axle housing. I’d imagine you used a sn95 caliper and disc as well? Trying to do this conversion myself at the moment actually. And you spaced the caliper away from the bracket 3/4 of an inch?
@@davidpeterson9125 you bolt the bracket straight to the flange, basically you run the bolts threw the bracket, threw the flange to the c clip eliminators, then you washer the two bolts that hold the caliper to get the right spacing, most of the time it’s less then 1/4 of a inch
@@Boostismyfriend What size rear rim and what backspacing? Thank You.
@@black88coupe it had 15x10 6.5
Are you using a transbrake on your car ?
Correct
@@Boostismyfriend would this apply to a nitrous car as well ? and how far down is the new mounting point ? Thanks Matt
Yes sir, the further down the more bite it will have, basically you want it as fair down as you can get it if your tires will clear, you also have to work off the shocks, so if i have it as fair down and the car hooks but then rolls out and kick the tires, if my shocks are over half way tight then i want to move it up a whole, you want it to be able to hook with the rebound 0-5 click from loose is what works for us
@@Boostismyfriend I have a coilover kit on the car so tire clearance will not be an issue. I have lowered the mounting point about an 1 1/2" and I will follow your shock setting advice I will see how that works once the tracks around here re-open, Thank you
Sweet
Did you have any trouble with c clip eliminators leaking?
They leak, i only had one set ever that didn’t and these ant them lol
@@Boostismyfriend I need to upgrade my 8.8 but saw a Ford 9 inch setup for Foxbody and comes with axles and Torino big bearing ends. I heard those are better than c clip eliminators?
They are, and they dont leak