Fana Mokoena Addresses Concerns with Gayton McKenzie and Sports Department
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Fana Mokoena Addresses Concerns with Gayton McKenzie and Sports Department
EFF MP Fana Mokoena Engages in Frank Discussion with Gayton McKenzie and Sports Department in Parliament
What happened to the last 30 years.. what have you been doing...
Leave our national anthem as it is Fana please... there are so many things you can concentrate on ❤
Gayton McKenzie is going out of his way 2 make things work...what is your problem...talk about the positive stuff... everything is rasist ...when are we gonna go forward😢
Gayton is a populist. He does things to be liked.
U don't know what you talking about
You should be a racist wena. Out of 7 minutes all you heard was racism lol, get over yourself.
When are these politicians starting ground work and less debates and ideologies, Gayton go on with whatever you want
If there is no debate then there would be arbitrary implementation of things that were not agreed upon and are not policies. Debates are the cornerstone of ideas where eventually we get to agree on a policy position. We cant, a nation that had CODESA, be irritated by debates.
What did the EFF do about resolving their complaints about this ministry under the previous minister
Nothing
The national anthem is a non issue! You know I commend the EFF/ANC Youth League of Malema. They were the ones who piqued my interest in Die Stem. I understand that it is from a South African history whose remnants we seek to rid ourselves of. Nonetheless, if one took the time to read and understand it, you will find that it is a beautiful pledge to serve the country. Nothing to do with Europe/whiteness or anti-blackness, it is, instead a pledge to serve South Africa.
As a South African it is my duty to serve this country and I think that this country has higher priorities to worry about. Not Die Stem!
Same can be said about the old flag, I don't any racists symbols on it, but you will still say it symbolizes the apartheid regime. Using the same argument I would say the same for the anthem.
@@coolcapr that is true. But here is where I see the difference:
The old flag is divisive by its nature because if you study it, the Main patterns are that of the Dutch / Afrikaner flag. Within the flag are flags of the old 2 Afrikaner republics, Transvaal and Oranje Vrystaat followed by the Union Jack. This flag represented a compromise between the Afrikaners and the British government of the time in 1928 when South Africa moved from being the Union of SA to RSA. As you can tell there is no mention of the black majority. In 1994, this was repealed and replaced by the new Rainbow Nation RSA Flag.
This explanation differs from that of the above-mentioned anthem explanation, where the anthem speaks nothing of the Afrikaners, the British, nor the majority black citizenry, but of service to South Africa. With Reconciliation and the Creation of the Rainbow Nation, South Africa then took the 1st stanza of Die Stem (non-divisive as a poem, nor the song, I’ve read the whole poem by CJ Langenhoven) and concatenated it with Nkosi Sikelela, a Hymn and what evolved into a Pan-African liberation anthem.
People don't eat Anthems and Flags, people are hungry
Although you are right, and I also don't personally care about the flag and athem as black as I am, he has a point though, it does not make sense to get rid of the flag and keep the athem, both of them are the symbol of the same thing. 1 is visual the other is audible, but both represent the same thing.
Hungry for what?
Before Gayton appear u didn't know how much was spent on mama Joy
Com .eff leader wear R30 k shoes
You didn't say people are hungry
Mxm very Funny
@coolcapr you make lot of sense in your explanation and I think same way you think
These guys are useless and will always have stupid points.
where was this in the last 30yrs the minute the minister who isnt their friend get in office they got something to say, none of the previous ministers who actually got us where we are now were told any of this, the man just got in office weeks ago, give a minute let's see what he's all about then start talking, dont assume that's he knows because that's all he talked about on a social media post, this man should be lecturing ANC about what government is all about because it seems like they still haven't understood its mandate to this day
If you understand the meaning of the anthem what is wrong with it? It is beautiful as is, it represents the unity of the rainbow nation.
Speaking things that don't make sense
As south Africans we love our national anthem it's our pride
Fana leave Politics to Politicians go back to acting you are talking like Dali Mpofu
Born for acting not politics please Fanafana.
Tell this man he must look in future not the past !
Don't tell us what to do Africa for africans ❤❤❤
They love the past because they don't know the history and that these SETTLERS from the Congo arrived after the colonials. The San have proof they were here first, cave drawings, etc
@@matsosomsetho9720South Africans. Dude you not the only race to be living in this Country. I was born here as many and never been anywhere else.
@@sihonco all I can say is we ready,we are not Jesus Christ,
But u r carrying the past with you at the same time...
It's nice to talk after 30yrs but you kept quiet n ate the money nice. Wena go back to sleep
Just say you ignorant Pillay. He's been saying it since way back. You clearly are the one who has been sleeping. PLEASE SHOW US WHAT MONEY HE ATE
they just don't get tired of hypocrisy, all the nonsense he's talking about has been going on for decades and he wanna attack a man who just got in office a week ago
He talks as if uyafika, haybo🤭😳like he just arrived last week. Kanti how are you guys working?
You stand firm against these shenanigans prez
Fana Mokoena reflects what insecure and entitled people do best in South Africa - racism.
He wants the lucrative private sector business' to be in control of the black majority but forgets that every State controlled Operating Enterprise (SOE), like Eskom and SA Airways has been destroyed, looted and being looted right at this very moment by his very own connected and privileged presently advantaged people!!!
Racism? Do you understand what it means?
Because someone mentions race doesn’t make them racist. When someone states a fact and it involves race, doesn’t make them a racist.
@@Qhawe_Jameson. Fana Mokoena is your definition of it
@@wegap2012 you are out of context
@spencercourtis9371 🤣🤣 stop trying to create meaning where there's nothing. Talking about apartheid now you are a racist?
You are forgetting what Nelson Mandela asked us all about the National Anthem. He wanted to keep Die Stem!
Shame on some people you think that they have grow but hey they still need milk while others are eating meat shame on these babies
Let's not forget what this guy did to Karabo because he was jealous she would find someone better than him.
yyyyeesssss!
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Irrelevant.
The EFF is so clear in all of the forums.
How will anthem and flag change or help the economy
Leave our anthem. True SAFRICANS love our anthem.
WHITE ones
One thing I like is that Fana Mokoena is very patient and articulate when he speaks. I sit down please.
No we don't
To hell with that song. If you had any cultural education you’d know that both Morena Boloka and Nkosi Sikelela are prayers, once that Boera part comes in it pollutes the entire message. It’s a complete and utter insult to have prayers along side “Uit die blou” and the meaning behind its lyrics.
Typical lazy thinker. Shut up
Offensive to who? What is this nonsense?
He’s got that BLACK POWER feeling from the 70’s.
It's power today. 2024.✊🏿
Mokoena what have and your party done to reduce what you mention is the problem why are you only bringing this up now
It has been said several times. You are only getting wake-up call now
Were you living under a rock all along?
Man just stop it just admid the charges and get it over with, witnesses don't lie
why did you guys never do this to anybody els before ...tealy now?
Your lack of cultural education is what leads you to such intellectually bankrupt queries……
Go and do some research on the origin and meaning of Morena Boloka and Nkosi Sikelela, once you’ve understood their meaning and purpose you’ll understand why “Die stem” is so problematic as part of the national anthem. Hence why Fana is rightfully asserting that Afrikaans people are not the problem, the problem is what the lyrics in Die Stem mean.
Funny using failed states as examples...
Example? Nigeria and? Why are they failed states?
you made no sence
Coz u naive of the past.
@karigwarmby8860!!! You so absolutely right, but yhey cant read so they don't pick up the meaning of the words, such a pitty cause it is so beautiful!!! Not singing Ons vir jou Witmense, but Ons vir jou our Country SA. People think its about Black and White, no no no,!!!! Its about our beautiful Country for and belong to Black and White!!!!!!
Why is this one only talking about this now,Why he never mentioned with previous ministers of sports,arts and culture ,Die Stem is going nowhere,its part of our collective culture,stop your bullying ways
Don’t lie the EFF has been consistent on this issue. You’re making a baseless assertion driven by emotion. It’s even in their manifesto. This is what happened when you don’t read manifesto but want to throw comments.
@@cheesecakecartel5022 The Minister of Sports,Arts and Culture that was appointed by our President has spoken,Die Stem stays,we move on...The end,
where did this generation actor attend school cause hey he needs to go collect his school fees.
You are the one to collect school fees. Stay in your corner. You are not recognized
@@mariashumba4072😂
@@mariashumba4072 no need to be recognized... stupidity is on another level and I've realized that that gets recognized a lot jst like how u got recognized now. lol 30 years and still useless so please if there is a corner that needs to be attended to it will be yours daily.... come talk here about stupid stuff like national flag ext does south Africans survive on flags and songs lol wena u not make sure
Mandla from generations
Minister, please join us at some music festivals. To list a few ; MosJazz in Mosselbay, Splashy Fen in Underberg, Up The Creek in Swellendam! we have some amazing artist and talent that will be at these events!
No matter how content he sounds but he has failed the sector of art non or whatsoever he did to change the sector
O bua ka eng hantle how did he fail?
I voted for PA but i agree with the EFF member on the issue of national anthem & SA flag but how would we be able to get rid of all this things that we dont want in our own country as black South Africans and get our land & resources back when this EFF is busy worrying about long liberated African nations who have their lands back home? Charity starts at home and if you dont understand this you wont be able to fix SA. Open border policy is your down fall EFF. Just forget about foreigners who put their fellow Africans in the refugee camps in the bushes, oppressing each other on religious, ethnic & tribal preferences and deport each other as Africans daily in their own countries.
Indeed die stem must go, most of us don't sing that part of the anthem. I like that EFF and MK don't sing it too at their events.
@@biko8229 EFF wants South Africans to speak Swahil 😅🤣when it comes to hosting millions of millions of foreign nationals it must be SA but when it comes to one language it must not be one of SA languages😅🤣this EFF is mad, qwe are not kwerekweres here in SA
@@thabangtladi8057 LOL, I like EFF but I also think EFF should revisit their Pan Africanist stance. We grew up knowing that the highest form of consciousness is Pan Africanism. I think Dr Pandor articulates the Pan Africanist stance better than some in the EFF.
She speaks of first developing integrated systems and no visa travel which sounds different to people from what is called "an open border policy" which is attributed to the EFF
@@biko8229ummm. But that's exactly the same as the eff policy, no?
@@svodcat7524 How is it exactly the same as the EFF policy?
Remember the integration of African States is not an EFF invention.
And look at Nigeria today. Meanwhile the Nigerians are leaving in boatloads. Why SA can’t move on is because everything is based on the past. If you going to go down the Nigerian path of regulation then GOD help us all. A very clever man with a philosophy of social cohesion that incorporates all of Africa, what then will be left for SA’s?
EFF MP always on point 😮wht is so confusing to me why ANC MP never raises this most significant point 😊
They are serving their masters
Because they are sleeping they only wake up when its corruption
@@wisemannombewu1753 😂😂😂
Because ANC has been the ruling party since 1994. They are all deployed by the same ANC to advance ANC interests and policies. If you speak out of the collective you will find yourself jobless. If MPs were directly voted they might have some better leverage to keep the executive of their their own party more accountable.
That is why they closed all the gates for EFF, EFF can make wonders for south Africans. ANC is afraid of that. They will be exposed that they did nothing for 30 years.
Gayton Mckenzie please raise the flag Delft is flooded and we are hungry. I demand attention within my area....😢😢😢😢😢😢
This man must go back to generations i liked him there.
Regulate the industry!🙌🏾✊🏾
This man need to go where is he from he was hidden all the time his talking nonsense
You are the commenting nonsense. Stay in your corner you are not recognized. Hating EFF is now fashionable even from lazy thinkers like you.
Whst is problem wena mandla you lose
Always crying 😭 always looking for attention grow up
Hey koi san mense van Africa we are koisan mense van Africa coloured praat Africanns cool😅
YES, DEBATES NOT ALWAYS NICE HEY..🥱
I respect that the Minister McKenzie have listened to the member of EFF and showed him the sign of respect, standing up and giving him his hand✋!
This for me is what politics should be ABOUT... raise concerns and issues, and LISTEN👂 attentively to better the situation, rather than screaming and shouting at each other the whole day, trying to see who is the Apex Predator.
WELL DONE [PA + EFF] 👏👏
I understand what his saying based on the work that needs to be done in the department, not only sports and events but more of the arts and culture of south Africa it requires a lot of attention
Voetsoek wena what's your story what happens to vb money crippling the people. You declining party needs to attend to real issues. Not this petty shit you going on about lot of noise but no meaningful contributions.
Declining? DA has reached its political ceiling, but they are in government today. Gayton is in a ministerial position with 2% votes. Nobody knows what the future holds. EFF is on the right course.
Haibo!!!When did Glen Lewis enter politics
The Great One
Teddy Bear of the Airwaves
Original Edward
Mandla is busy unpacking Blackness and polishing it to those who have ears to listen
😢mf2
...and stirring what the insecure do best - racialism
@@spencercourtis9371 like Siphumile lapho we’ve tried to intergrate
Do you need to be reminded of your blackness?
@@fanelembusie8801 ?
Sadly it just highlights how SA has moved on from debates like this.. our youth are educated .. just the way the interviewers and new MP’s respond to question is so much more intelligent and forward thinking .. well done Mr Mackenzie excellent response 🇿🇦
Is die nie Mandla van Generation... Joh... Die man se vlag het geval
Interesting guy to listen to (Mr Mokoena) but lazy thinker...he is so entrenched in his narrow, racial mindset around social cohesion is boring. Time to grow up.
Too early to be drunk don’t you think?
At what are you, a slow thinker?
Indeed, not every topic requires a racial context.
New Ministers must not Accommodate eff to use podiums for racism.
Critism always..lets talk about Vbs fana
what a waste of good English
What an articulate man, great point on Die Stem
Mandl is chasing a loose chain 😂😂😂
Absolute racist.
Definitely you hate equality
EFF is annoying. Apartheid Apartheid Apartheid…what a useless opposition party
South Africa is the most unequal country in the world. Apartheid is still alive.
Fana mokwena still asleep and locked in the past he's not for change just like his Eff comrades. Fana you're racism yourself
I think Mokoenas approach was very constructive and educative the minister and I can see he was taking notes. Let us not always think EFF just opposes. Where there is development it can gladly move along with you.
Check your on work
BS
In the EFF we are being LED❤❤
Pls post mckenzie response
Those words " Where We Still Have To...."
So, 30 years on and "We Still Have To...."
Ag shurruppp!!!
Asimfuni ukunanela I eff basile
Man must go to SABC1
Go to the capture broacast who chooses what to say wuestoon to ask and misleading the country daily basis
Eff knows only How to Speak alot, they couldn't do anything visible for community since they've been in power.. im talking even a simple libray or pool for the community ..all they know is nywe nywe nywe😂😂😂😂
You are such a nuisance 😢😢 and not enjoyable, at my community EFF build a very large community centre and they don't even lead that ward
They didn't at your are, people have water, old age homes renovated, creche to mention a few stop criticism of you are not informed. Hatred towards eff can male you look uninformed
ANC disagrees
He where did Mandla get this script 😂
The anthem is going no where it is part of the history of south africa
Actors in parliament
And what do you have to show?..
Aibo Mandla
lol
I see the beginnings of Mckenzie Derangement Syndrome taking hold 😂
Oh God these eff peoples is stuck in the 1800
EFF is becoming useless everyday
This gay is acomenist paloeka👹
You are fighting for your sister mama joy and your friend botha and machaka leave mckenzie alone
EFF very lost Mandla
Eff is sick now we have 11 official languages unfortunately Afrikaans is one of it, they are loosing it
Stupid concerns
Such high English.. But he doesn't make sense
Coloured ppl the real owners of Afrikaans should write the Afrikaans part. PLus theyve got rhythm. It won't sound like a marching band during a prayer😂😂😂😂
Mandla plat nies
This man is annoying
National Anthem represents rainbow nation.???
No it doesn't, there's no rainbow nation.
The dream of the Rainbow nation has been stolen by greed and corruption😮😮@@Qhawe_Jameson.
@lawrencenannes4260 There was never a rainbow nation to begin with. How come no one talks about the rand manipulation scandal?
Wahlomula loh hluhlwayini yena
Well Said Fana.
O bua masipa.
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😂no ppl let’s leave petty things, he has good points 😂
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Couldn't act now in politics🙈🙈🙈🙈
Thulas wakuyizo yizo 😂😂😂 eeee
Leha Sello a lelekile ena
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Pls go back to acting
Viva eff viva
Karabo se goete
Efff bathathe✊🏿
i said it before and im saying it again, Gayton is going to collapse and divide this department, watch the space, he is clueless of protocols and and processes, this is not jail where you rule by force, there processes here.
Please say it again and see how stupid you sound... It's because of those processes that the country is so fucked. But you might just be a foreigner
U will like that keep on dreaming at least he is doing something that anc never did transparency give me anything that anc build on all they did is destroy with their corruption look at schools sports transnet and it goes on and on Gayton has a big tasks at hand old ministers will want to discredit him let us stop this biggering and stand by him pray for him jealousy is a nasty thing let's say it as it is 90 percent of blacks hates coloureds that's a fact look at these eff for example they racist to white people but they want to live like white people live in white areas not one of these Minister's lives amoung poor people but they want to call them my people what Hippocrates