How can an amp be THIS good?? (Zuta GBG120)

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  • @SonicDriveStudio
    @SonicDriveStudio  20 днів тому +4

    Zuta GBG120: zutagroup.com/products/gbg120-tube-amp-by-zuta
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    My personal Thomann recommendations: thmn.to/thocf/cv37zixo68
    My webstore for Captures, presets etc: ko-fi.com/sonicdrivestudio

  • @bhefer
    @bhefer 11 днів тому +50

    Damn bro. I don’t know how you write riff after riff for these demos. You’re the metal Pete Thorn of as far as I’m concerned. Kudos and awesome stuff. Jealous of that room!

  • @MotorcyclesMetalandMayhem
    @MotorcyclesMetalandMayhem 11 днів тому +13

    You have the sickest riffs of anyone on UA-cam. If I want to be inspired, I come here.

  • @GregoryMerritt-o1f
    @GregoryMerritt-o1f 11 днів тому +11

    Had to pause at the 19 min mark to let you know that it's clear you've had some breakthroughs in working around the medical condition you're dealing with. I'm stoked to the core to see it.

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  11 днів тому +12

      Thank you, I appreciate it! I've just been pushing myself more but the outcome is good musically!

  • @ZagrasNixillis
    @ZagrasNixillis 11 днів тому +17

    They finally did it. An amp that sounds like all the amps.

  • @m.a.6478
    @m.a.6478 11 днів тому +3

    I can confirm the GBG120 is incredibly fun to use! It is a library of amps, the claim "from clean to extreme" is not just marketing fuss.

  • @SapperRJMorgan
    @SapperRJMorgan 11 днів тому +2

    Ever since I saw these I was amazed. It’s like he thought of everything. Honestly one of if not the best amplifiers on the planet. Amazing.

  • @robertdonosobuchner3129
    @robertdonosobuchner3129 11 днів тому +2

    It's a great amplifier for sure, but your guitar playing makes it even better. I really enjoy your guitar sounds and your guitar playing!

  • @ianlahaye9476
    @ianlahaye9476 11 днів тому +2

    Love the thumbnail, man! I've never thought this, but man considering it's name, the sounds it's after, and the tone, it's like the amp was made for me! 😍 Incredible looking video, songs, and out of this world tones!

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  11 днів тому +2

      Thank you Ian, that means a lot! And yeah, this amp would sound amazing in your hands!

  • @robertolsen9721
    @robertolsen9721 11 днів тому +4

    Baskim Zuta was involved with the making of Bogner ecstasy which I was not aware of at the time I tried the small 25 watt Zuta head.

  • @rangerdoc1029
    @rangerdoc1029 9 днів тому +1

    Simply the finest reviews on UA-cam.

  • @kaishunider4110
    @kaishunider4110 8 днів тому +1

    I've never heard of Zuta, however, after watching your video, this amp got my attention and followed their instagram. Thank you for showing this awesome product.

  • @ivanlorena
    @ivanlorena 11 днів тому +3

    Awesome riffs as always Jon! 🔥

  • @ZephaniahDavis
    @ZephaniahDavis 10 днів тому +4

    IN FLAMES CALLED and said, "Good job."

  • @ShawnWrona
    @ShawnWrona 8 днів тому +1

    Although I’m happy with my SLO-100 clone I built, and I don’t plan on buying another amp anytime soon… I love this amp and would consider it if I was in the market!
    Great demo video you have made. Earned my subscription! Take care!

  • @lionlotus333
    @lionlotus333 10 днів тому +2

    Creative riffs. Great tones

  • @DerSilvano
    @DerSilvano 11 днів тому +3

    When listening to the first demo I tried to make out the character of the amp. well it's mid forward, very modern and VERY tight. Also, love the harmony section on the first demo

  • @MickH60
    @MickH60 8 днів тому +1

    Even for a meat and potatoes guy like myself this amp is wonderfully functional....I Like it... The pedal boards are well thought out too.... PS, you're lead playing has come ahead quite a lot Jon, sounding great mate...!

  • @robertolsen9721
    @robertolsen9721 11 днів тому +3

    I have met the Zuta guy here in gothenburg at a guitar exhibition when they were new in business. I like the small first head they sold.

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  11 днів тому +3

      LA25! I think they still make it

    • @robertolsen9721
      @robertolsen9721 11 днів тому +1

      ​@@SonicDriveStudioyes it was that one. It was great for 80's guitar tone, can't get enough of plexi

  • @georgedomse
    @georgedomse 9 днів тому +1

    This is the 3rd time in my life where I am really impressed by an amp. The first one was the ENGL Retrotube and the 2nd one was the Friedman BE-100. The Zuta is in good company.

  • @Antron89
    @Antron89 11 днів тому +3

    What a beast of an amp!

  • @john_sandilau
    @john_sandilau 11 днів тому +2

    The clean channel demo sounded similar in to bleeding me :)))) Nice!

  • @The_Bass_Stunters
    @The_Bass_Stunters 10 днів тому +1

    Damn! Zuta has it figured out!! They make all there pedals uniform to slide onto a track so it looks like one piece of equipment !! Slick!

  • @B_E_C_K
    @B_E_C_K 11 днів тому +2

    Great demo as always. Very cool amp.

  • @nandakishore588
    @nandakishore588 10 днів тому +2

    the title should be " how can a riff be this good?" all sick AF riffs, man. U rule. the zuta amps seem to have a nice clean visual aesthetic for modern players.

  • @studioruangsvara
    @studioruangsvara 10 днів тому +1

    Man i think i’m in love with this amp and pedals.
    As an old school guy but open for modern stuff i like the amp design that similar to an SSL console switches. Sleek anodized materials, clean back panel, everything is perfect for my liking.
    Wish i could try or buy it.
    Nice demo btw!

  • @LucaMilierimusic
    @LucaMilierimusic 11 днів тому +2

    Hey Dude, amazing work. I really dig the clean demo, it reminds me some Opeth vibes that I love. Heavy tones and riffs amazing as well. What a great amp and demo 🔥🤘🔥

  • @alecse5478
    @alecse5478 10 днів тому +1

    ouaaaah, un truc de fou cet ampli! What a killer amp. This is THE AMP for everything! Awesome. Of course price is at his level, but so awesome. Hope they will get success. Well done Jon 👍

  • @TheFloatingBartender
    @TheFloatingBartender 9 днів тому +1

    This video was fucking great. You’re playing the Delivery the app itself like shit awesome. When you brought out the Meshuggah signature being a huge fan, I was like yes this video is all the wind wind possible.

  • @oldguyjammin9732
    @oldguyjammin9732 10 днів тому +1

    Nice as always, love how the pedal stack up.

  • @roadfordays
    @roadfordays 6 днів тому

    6L6/EL34 combo has always been my favorite, and it's what I run in my Marshall

  • @SixStringAlliance
    @SixStringAlliance 11 днів тому +1

    Killer demo dude!!!

  • @Bjornsguitarspecials
    @Bjornsguitarspecials 9 днів тому +1

    This was killer Jon🤘🏼

  • @rocgod
    @rocgod 11 днів тому +1

    love the Zuta stuff! Baskim gave me a Triax boost a couple years ago and It's the best hi gain boost/gate combo i've ever tried. Great Stuff.

  • @RandyLeonard-t1x
    @RandyLeonard-t1x 10 днів тому +1

    Other than here,Kdh's channel is the only other place I've seen a Zuta amp.👍Sounds good!!!

  • @paulbradshawguitar
    @paulbradshawguitar 11 днів тому +1

    sounds killer Jon 🙌 love the custom pedals/rail sort of setup as well, super clean and pro

  • @joeywilder9708
    @joeywilder9708 11 днів тому +1

    Sounds killer Jon!

  • @tubeworkshop
    @tubeworkshop 11 днів тому +2

    Baskim, that's a really cool amp. Congrats!

  • @imrn
    @imrn 8 днів тому +1

    Thank u for this videoo.
    Such an amazing amp❤

  • @RiffSaver
    @RiffSaver 10 днів тому +1

    Awesome stuff and playing! Thanks a lot for great high quility music videos, man!

  • @kollabrock
    @kollabrock 10 днів тому +1

    Definitely pricey but on the other hand, what more could you possibly ask for in a tube amp? The versatility is crazy! Grym stärkare Baskim!

  • @WALKERGUITAR
    @WALKERGUITAR День тому +1

    great stuff.. im like a kid in a candy store here.. thanks.. just who and how the hell are you playing those drums? do you have some ai dude playing for you? how do you do that

  • @jeffreymusser8450
    @jeffreymusser8450 9 днів тому +1

    Channel 2 sounds the best…
    Especially with the GBG switch on…holy hockey sticks!!

  • @andykerass3695
    @andykerass3695 10 днів тому +1

    I just love the sell of 'its rack mounded so you can store your large collection of amps' ...im picturing a wall covered with amps 😅 i have one (and a couple of small ones) it makes sense and sounds like a nice problem to have lol

  • @zoltarwizdom6708
    @zoltarwizdom6708 10 днів тому +2

    Dude what a cool looking amp. However 4k is a bit much, love the look though!

  • @patovega
    @patovega 10 днів тому +2

    the only head you could ever need!

  • @damico529
    @damico529 10 днів тому +1

    I thought this was a new Line 6 Vetta for some reason and got really excited.

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  10 днів тому

      Nope, this doesn't digitally model analog, this is analog!

  • @KreativeDevices
    @KreativeDevices 11 днів тому +1

    Great as usual!

  • @MarcelCoenenOfficial
    @MarcelCoenenOfficial 9 днів тому +1

    I tried this amp at the guitar summit, it surely sounds awesome :) \m/

  • @Struud
    @Struud 10 днів тому +1

    Man this thing sounds like a JCM 800 and a 5150 had a baby. I want one

  • @nj1255
    @nj1255 10 днів тому +1

    Holy grail amp!

  • @luisbarrera5740
    @luisbarrera5740 10 днів тому +1

    That's actually a really good sounding amp

  • @Mar33322
    @Mar33322 10 днів тому +1

    Great amp and nice EII Eclipse .

  • @gimmickmusic8827
    @gimmickmusic8827 10 днів тому +1

    It reminds me of the old Rockman amps that were popular in the 80s.

  • @djdanger9812
    @djdanger9812 11 днів тому +1

    Great sounding amp.
    For something that costs the same as a car it should.
    Resale return for this would be miserable.
    My 6505+ 120w cost $800 and destroys.
    Nice to see these innovations but who are they catering to with a $6,384.00 amplifier?
    To much ouch for my taste and I own a ton of studio rack gear.
    Awesome demo as always John.

  • @GavMcC7
    @GavMcC7 11 днів тому +1

    What a cool amp. I'd like to see a 50w version without channel 2 or 4

  • @StoneXue
    @StoneXue 11 днів тому +1

    Thumbs up for Zuta on the fan, if you HAVE to put a fan in there Noctua fans are the way to go and the fan has the tale tale noctua beige

  • @freddyleal1756
    @freddyleal1756 11 днів тому +1

    How come it pops when you change from 6L6 and El34. Mine does not do that maybe could be the mic. The channel switching is super smooth and also when you switch power tubes. Nice video review killer jams

  • @davidezaccagnini6392
    @davidezaccagnini6392 11 днів тому +1

    John, a complete review of the e-ii eclipse in black natural burst please

  • @off6848
    @off6848 10 днів тому +1

    Crazy cool Psychedelic Porn Crumpets type playing in the clean demo

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  10 днів тому +1

      I don't know what that is but if it's cool I'll take it 😊

  • @andykerass3695
    @andykerass3695 10 днів тому +1

    That ch 4, that had me amped!!! So good! I'll but that track!

  • @sbstudioguitars
    @sbstudioguitars 11 днів тому +1

    Excellent demo as always, Jon! I have noticed that the video quality has drastically improved over the last couple of weeks. May I ask you which cameras are you using now?

  • @mandanicifabrizio
    @mandanicifabrizio 8 днів тому +1

    super cool amp! what audio interface do you use for your videos? do you recommend apollo twin or audient id24? thanks and great job

    • @mandanicifabrizio
      @mandanicifabrizio 8 днів тому

      ?😅

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  8 днів тому

      Fractal FM9

    • @zutagroup
      @zutagroup 7 днів тому

    • @mandanicifabrizio
      @mandanicifabrizio 7 днів тому

      @@SonicDriveStudio my question is do i get the same quality with fm3 vs apollo twin for recording electric guitar? plus i would have the simulations and everything else!😀

  • @phpimusique9373
    @phpimusique9373 11 днів тому +2

    Amazing amp

  • @Rpaterson33
    @Rpaterson33 10 днів тому +2

    Hard choice, but this amp or the Diezel VH4? Hoping to see a VH4 video soon.

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  10 днів тому +1

      @@Rpaterson33 they sound pretty different imho. The form factor and features are also quite different

    • @Rpaterson33
      @Rpaterson33 10 днів тому

      @@SonicDriveStudio im between the two, both great amps but I have to figure out what I want as far as sound

  • @ribhubhattacharya78
    @ribhubhattacharya78 10 днів тому +1

    I really liked the crunch tone but i feel it lacks a bit of character with the high gain tones and the clean tones, there's clarity but it doesn't have that punch

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  10 днів тому

      Fwiw, in the room when you play it for yourself it has a lot of punch

  • @Middlestepofficial
    @Middlestepofficial 8 днів тому

    I think this one is more for hard rock, post-grunge style of music rather than heavier metal styles. It has the boxy sound of a Vox and the edge of a Line-6.

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  8 днів тому

      Channel 3 and 4 are perfect for heavy styles! Even channel 3 can do heavy

  • @nigeldaddyo
    @nigeldaddyo 9 днів тому +1

    come back when you've got a 20 or 30 watt version. i don't play stadiums. nor do the vast majority of the amp market. well played.

  • @jackbootshamangaming4541
    @jackbootshamangaming4541 11 днів тому +2

    I was just about to buy the Zuta GBG120 last night, I was waiting for KDH's full review. I think ill Pull the trigger 😊

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  11 днів тому +1

      You won't regret it!

    • @jackbootshamangaming4541
      @jackbootshamangaming4541 11 днів тому +1

      I'm not that good of a player but I keep practicing and am trying to get better. I only just got back into guitar before in 2019 pandemic. ​@@SonicDriveStudio

  • @Franklifts77
    @Franklifts77 11 днів тому +1

    Very cool amp - seems weird to not have midi with all those features?

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  11 днів тому +1

      It will have midi soon with the new device as shown in the video

  • @acousticmagnum5200
    @acousticmagnum5200 11 днів тому +4

    Yea, its got a "Futuristic" price on it, as well!!! HA!! I can, maybe, afford this, in the future. When im about 80

  • @kettnsaeg
    @kettnsaeg 11 днів тому +1

    Came for the amp but... DAMN was that intro song cool.

  • @miserychannel69
    @miserychannel69 10 днів тому +1

    Must have .. Would be kool if they offer this without the amp.
    That leviathan is MUST HAVE AS WELL .

  • @colebengston3963
    @colebengston3963 11 днів тому +1

    Amp sounds great along with the riffs! Serious question maybe someone here can answer for me, is there a reason besides preference to down pick alternate string riffs? I alternate pic almost everything and hybrid pick when necessary. Thoughts?

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  11 днів тому +2

      Thanks! Regarding the picking: I don't really think about it, I just do whatever sounds the most solid

    • @colebengston3963
      @colebengston3963 11 днів тому

      @@SonicDriveStudio thank you! I’m a bass player by trade and play with my fingers but picked up guitar during lockdowns. I appreciate the advice!

  • @jonathanstrand2474
    @jonathanstrand2474 10 днів тому

    John, what is the material you use for a mute on the nut, seems all your guitars have that, I use the big fuzzy ones from Sweetwater called “Gruv/gear” which work but are kinda in the way for playing open Chords.
    Or is it just vinyl electrical tape….looks fuzzy on video😊

  • @miserychannel69
    @miserychannel69 10 днів тому

    7:18 Did you add that extra 6?

  • @stephanpetersen8386
    @stephanpetersen8386 11 днів тому +1

    "Stupid" question: Is it possible to use a 120 watt amp with an attenuator like the one in the Torpedo Captor X at home for practice or is it overkill/bad for the sound of the amp and to loud for that? Best regards

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  11 днів тому +4

      That's no problem at all! Should work perfectly! This amp also sounds great at bedroom levels btw

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  11 днів тому +3

      @@stephanpetersen8386 by the way, that's not a stupid question! ;)

    • @stephanpetersen8386
      @stephanpetersen8386 11 днів тому +1

      @@SonicDriveStudio Great! Thx! 😊🙏

    • @m.a.6478
      @m.a.6478 11 днів тому +1

      I use it with a Fryette Power Load IR at home. I have to keep the master volume down to not clip the internal IR, but to me it sounds great anyway. You can use it to higher volumes with an external IR. And to heat your flat in the winter. It might be overkill, considering you could get an Axe FX or something for less money. But what I like about the GBG120 is the immediacy of the controls. It really is nice to twist the knobs without the feeling you could destroy your "one setting" as the controls are usable to their end positions and are not just working at one setting and 5° left or right. You can turn the EQ knobs all the way up and down and it does something useful.

    • @stephanpetersen8386
      @stephanpetersen8386 11 днів тому

      @m.a.6478 Really appreciate your feedback - thx! 😊

  • @2Phipps
    @2Phipps 6 днів тому

    Nice Intro Song. But that's not the raw direct sound of the amp (it's processed), is it? 😲 Did you use a drum plugin for that?

  • @drdyna
    @drdyna 9 днів тому +1

    Fancy.

  • @retohorler9921
    @retohorler9921 9 днів тому +1

    Almost 3600.- for the Zuta GBG 120 with the effects you use it will be almost 4500.- quite a lot.
    But it sounds good and it doesn't look like all the other amps.

  • @figydscnvn9rek
    @figydscnvn9rek 11 днів тому +2

    Love all the features but for the asking price, idk...

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  10 днів тому

      There are amps out there with way less features that have a higher price tag

  • @theunholyguitaristofficial
    @theunholyguitaristofficial 9 днів тому +1

    @13:14 Noctua fan spotted!

  • @JoeBlack1108
    @JoeBlack1108 10 днів тому +1

    That's a cool amp, but with all that other stuff in it, it will make it that much harder to fix, I would think anyway

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  10 днів тому +1

      Baskim assured me that the innards are arranged in such a way that makes it very serviceable

    • @JoeBlack1108
      @JoeBlack1108 10 днів тому

      @SonicDriveStudio we that would be a nice thing a manufacturer would do. Do they alow the owner a wiring diagrams or do they want you to send it in?

  • @brgl61
    @brgl61 11 днів тому +1

    Killer riffs, not as sold on the amp itself. Feel like a recto does everything this does better.

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  11 днів тому +1

      It's very different than a Recto. This amp is capable of so much more

  • @TheOtherJohnBrowne
    @TheOtherJohnBrowne 11 днів тому +1

    Wow!

  • @MercutioUK2006
    @MercutioUK2006 11 днів тому +1

    It does sound amazing, and your riffs are awesome......but 4500 euro?
    It BETTER be good.

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  11 днів тому +1

      It IS good!

    • @jackbootshamangaming4541
      @jackbootshamangaming4541 11 днів тому +1

      It's amazing

    • @tubeworkshop
      @tubeworkshop 11 днів тому

      Yeah, I was also wondering how the Zuta can only be 4.500 EUR, when a Soldano SLO100 Rack is 4.999 EUR... 😉
      Or didn't you mean it this way? 🤔😜🤣

  • @roscius6204
    @roscius6204 11 днів тому +1

    Hmm a separate midi.... later.... Very 80's :O

  • @Kammoflars
    @Kammoflars 10 днів тому +1

    It should be named GBG031!

  • @kahlrhoam6769
    @kahlrhoam6769 9 днів тому +1

    $4k & I’m out of kidneys to sell.
    Sounds good, though.

  • @lukather1
    @lukather1 10 днів тому +1

    £3,300 ! FFS !
    One word - Axefx !

    • @zutagroup
      @zutagroup 10 днів тому

      ❤ Yes Axe-Fx works perfectly in the FX loop of the ZUTA GBG120 you choose between serial/parallel and the reverbs and delays are amazing ✅ but personally I love the Lexicon PCM70 and the TC M6000 + TC 2290 + TC1210 + Eventide H3000 🔥🚀

  • @LucasLeCompteMusic
    @LucasLeCompteMusic 11 днів тому +1

    Zuta Suit Riot

  • @mattz1686
    @mattz1686 11 днів тому +1

    Someone has been listening to In Flames I see...

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  11 днів тому +1

      I do have all their albums! This amp was designed by Baskim who is from Gothenburg so that intro song was meant as an ode to that in a way :)

    • @mattz1686
      @mattz1686 11 днів тому +1

      @ well A+ John. Amp sounds great and your playing keeps getting better and better

    • @robertolsen9721
      @robertolsen9721 11 днів тому +1

      Sound of Gothenburg❤ the Gothenburg sound before was all about the 5150 which In flames used.

  • @lukather1
    @lukather1 10 днів тому +1

    How much ?

  • @Rstar63
    @Rstar63 11 днів тому +1

    The price is $3999, 😅

    • @Rstar63
      @Rstar63 11 днів тому

      Sounds killer!!!

  • @clemdog76
    @clemdog76 20 годин тому

    ...did sound really good... the player had more to do with that than anything, though.

  • @allworksnew
    @allworksnew 11 днів тому +1

    Its close to 4k it better sound good bruh.

  • @xthexadvantagex
    @xthexadvantagex 2 дні тому +1

    Chunky

  • @soundpainter2590
    @soundpainter2590 8 днів тому

    Wow... The FIRST Amp to challenge BOOGIE, of having the MOST knobs & Switches per square inch. (( Is there 38 3 way Switches & 23 knobs on the rear panel ??? &, Oooh yeah... Amp techs LOVE doing "Basic service" on these soin to be Nitemares !! Hey.. Just being R E A L .

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  8 днів тому

      Have you looked inside?

    • @soundpainter2590
      @soundpainter2590 8 днів тому

      There's (( WAY MORE )) Than enough F'ed Up things going on in the world .... RIGHT NOW.

  • @customguitarith2552
    @customguitarith2552 10 днів тому

    Line6? Nothing new here

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  10 днів тому

      Line 6??

    • @customguitarith2552
      @customguitarith2552 9 днів тому

      @SonicDriveStudio the technology already been done by line6, copied by other brand like Vox, Marshall, boss katana, keeper etc and now zeta. Nothing new

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio  9 днів тому

      What you're saying doesn't make sense... the Zuta is a fully analog tube amp. It's not a modeler

    • @customguitarith2552
      @customguitarith2552 9 днів тому

      @SonicDriveStudio still the similar storytelling though

  • @dasczwo
    @dasczwo 9 днів тому +1

    hm. ok. its great. is it better? no reference. comparison vids dont pay. itsok, your a salesman, a great one. but to charge 3500 for a amp full of microcontrollers... and not INCLUDE MIDI# in 2024? what is this? anyone selling smthg above 400 with dsp and microcontrollers inside charging extra is either lazy or greedy.
    revoloutionary? well, if someone claims that hughes and kettner probably did it decades ago, and flopped caus guitarists are a bit backwards.
    Check out the Hughes and kettner ACCESS Amp. midi stereo, digitalfx... when did that com out? so ZUTA: LAME. pseudo innovative. does it sound better then a diezel? Triamp? no comparison possible.
    otherwise ZUta, bravo for trying pushing the envelope again. but everything sounds very familiar.