Hi, i got the same set in 2023, they now are made with steel, i have been able to wind just about all the watches i have fixed/serviced, i made some tiny half moon shims out of shimstock, they don't damage the springs in any way, makes it possible to do many different calibers, if i had the cash i would buy the right winders though. Cool video. I like making tools to fix watches rather than just buying them.
Yes, after I published this video, I was told that there are sets with steel arbors available. For me it was too late, because I have done with modification of brass arbors and did not want to spend more money for buying another set. And I too like to make or modify some tools instead of buying them. Thanks for watching!
I simply love your tutorial and explanations. It's not difficult to understand that you have a lot of experience and knowledge under the belt. I have enjoyed witching your videos with great satisfaction.
Nice job. I do have a few questions I would appreciate your help on. I am having a hard time finding thin spring material that is in strip form. Can you suggest a couple of resources? What size spring strip do you typically use, material, and thickness? Lastly, do you have an idea what the maximum thickness you can have before the winder is too hard to wind. I have a different application that will use a larger spring and want to get an idea what will work.
Thank you! Sorry, I do not make springs from the strip form material, I am buying the mainsprings for wristwatches, made for them by manufacturers. The geometry of springs for watches are different and go by the watch brand/model. The mainspring winder is designed to work with those springs and I have no idea if thicker material would be used. But here is a suggestion. Pocket watches have thicker springs and should have appropriate for their size winders. If you need something thicker, clocks might be considered as a source of much thicker material. And there are winders available for clock mainsprings. I wish you good luck!
Thanks! This is a Micro PCB Drill Bit Set and it could be found on Amazon. Please see the link in the description for this video. Look up for [hrase "Micro PCB Drill Bit Set, 0.7 mm"
@@ValentechTime Not bidirectional. However, I have made brass washers for each right winding holder, which, when the spring is inserted, the washer is upended and the spring can be inserted winding left. Still like your way.
@@rossjackson3670 It's very interesting! I did not get the idea completely, can you explain in more details, or maybe by photo? I think you talking about spring washer? Still do not get it.
@@ValentechTime not sure how to attach photographs. Details are in a post on the watch fix forum of Mark Lovick. topic mainspring-winders-at-an-unbelievable-price
Does your set have brass or steel hooks? As I said, I wasn't able to use the set until I modernized it per video. Maybe you use your set for different mainsprings?
If you are asking for link to Chinese winders, they are all over eBay. Here is one of them: www.ebay.com/itm/175669518239?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160811114145%26meid%3D3839a04abf2e453480acafc578ebace3%26pid%3D100667%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D364200636596%26itm%3D175669518239%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2351460%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2351460.c100667.m2042
@@thegrassyknoll7792 Thanks for the comment! Yes, I've heard they improved their sets. I've asked one of the sellers what arbor made from and they did not know the answer. Also, I already spent money on buying the brass-based set and wouldn't want to spend again. As many others who already invested in the brass hooks. 😀
im new to watch fixing and stuff would like to learn more about the different winders as im kinda confused on the different ones as i thought a single winder fits them all now i learned about 2 directional winders too and sizes im kinda confused any help ?
There are at least 3 dimensions to worry about 🙂 - diameter of the wound up spring - a beefy diver watch barrel will be much wider than a dainty ladies watch - diameter of the innermost coil - this is where the hook clips and is the main failing of Chinese winders - the arbor is simply to thin - clockwise or counter-clockwise direction Very few things in the world are one size fits all and winders are no different. Barrels and springs are different, so too must the winders be. Watch lots of UA-cam videos on servicing watches and you will quickly notice how much variety there is
Hi. If you keep all your old washers that come with new mainsprings, or make washers, you can push a spring in, then flip it and push the spring into the barrel just like when it’s a new spring, this way you have reversed the direction.
Hi, i got the same set in 2023, they now are made with steel, i have been able to wind just about all the watches i have fixed/serviced, i made some tiny half moon shims out of shimstock, they don't damage the springs in any way, makes it possible to do many different calibers, if i had the cash i would buy the right winders though. Cool video. I like making tools to fix watches rather than just buying them.
Yes, after I published this video, I was told that there are sets with steel arbors available. For me it was too late, because I have done with modification of brass arbors and did not want to spend more money for buying another set. And I too like to make or modify some tools instead of buying them. Thanks for watching!
Nicely done!
Thank you!
This winder looks good, you are creative in making helpful tools needed for the job
Thank you, Maksim! Sometimes it's good to improve an existing tool, instead of buying a new one. 🙂
You're a genius !!! thanks for your idea
You are welcome, and thank you for the comment!
I simply love your tutorial and
explanations. It's not difficult to
understand that you have a lot of
experience and knowledge under the
belt. I have enjoyed witching your
videos with great satisfaction.
Thank you, Vulcanaft, for the great comment! I really appreciate it.
Nice job. I do have a few questions I would appreciate your help on. I am having a hard time finding thin spring material that is in strip form. Can you suggest a couple of resources? What size spring strip do you typically use, material, and thickness? Lastly, do you have an idea what the maximum thickness you can have before the winder is too hard to wind. I have a different application that will use a larger spring and want to get an idea what will work.
Thank you! Sorry, I do not make springs from the strip form material, I am buying the mainsprings for wristwatches, made for them by manufacturers. The geometry of springs for watches are different and go by the watch brand/model. The mainspring winder is designed to work with those springs and I have no idea if thicker material would be used. But here is a suggestion. Pocket watches have thicker springs and should have appropriate for their size winders. If you need something thicker, clocks might be considered as a source of much thicker material. And there are winders available for clock mainsprings. I wish you good luck!
well done!
Thank you!
Hi , Thanks for the video .
I have the same winder with the same problems . . What are these drill bits called and where can I get them .?
Thanks
Thanks! This is a Micro PCB Drill Bit Set and it could be found on Amazon. Please see the link in the description for this video. Look up for [hrase "Micro PCB Drill Bit Set, 0.7 mm"
Very impressed. I have a set, and they make the arbour of steel now. But, the spigots are easily worn away. Time to go your way I think. Thank you
Thank you! Yeah, I've heard they make arbors from steel now, but are winders bidirectional? This is another bonus, if you do it yourself. 😏
@@ValentechTime Not bidirectional. However, I have made brass washers for each right winding holder, which, when the spring is inserted, the washer is upended and the spring can be inserted winding left. Still like your way.
@@rossjackson3670 It's very interesting! I did not get the idea completely, can you explain in more details, or maybe by photo? I think you talking about spring washer? Still do not get it.
@@ValentechTime not sure how to attach photographs. Details are in a post on the watch fix forum of Mark Lovick. topic mainspring-winders-at-an-unbelievable-price
@@rossjackson3670 Thanks, will check on that.
I’ve had no problems with my Chinese set, same as yours, not the one reviewed by Mark Lovick. Perhaps poor QC!?
Does your set have brass or steel hooks? As I said, I wasn't able to use the set until I modernized it per video. Maybe you use your set for different mainsprings?
Mind sharing a link for the winders?
If you are asking for link to Chinese winders, they are all over eBay. Here is one of them: www.ebay.com/itm/175669518239?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160811114145%26meid%3D3839a04abf2e453480acafc578ebace3%26pid%3D100667%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D364200636596%26itm%3D175669518239%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2351460%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2351460.c100667.m2042
You Can get a chinese set with steel hookes but its not bi directional, this looks like a geneous hack 👍🏻😃
@@thegrassyknoll7792 Thanks for the comment! Yes, I've heard they improved their sets. I've asked one of the sellers what arbor made from and they did not know the answer. Also, I already spent money on buying the brass-based set and wouldn't want to spend again. As many others who already invested in the brass hooks. 😀
im new to watch fixing and stuff
would like to learn more about the different winders as im kinda confused on the different ones as i thought a single winder fits them all
now i learned about 2 directional winders too and sizes im kinda confused any help ?
There are at least 3 dimensions to worry about 🙂
- diameter of the wound up spring - a beefy diver watch barrel will be much wider than a dainty ladies watch
- diameter of the innermost coil - this is where the hook clips and is the main failing of Chinese winders - the arbor is simply to thin
- clockwise or counter-clockwise direction
Very few things in the world are one size fits all and winders are no different. Barrels and springs are different, so too must the winders be.
Watch lots of UA-cam videos on servicing watches and you will quickly notice how much variety there is
@@alanmckinnon6791 thank you
Hi. If you keep all your old washers that come with new mainsprings, or make washers, you can push a spring in, then flip it and push the spring into the barrel just like when it’s a new spring, this way you have reversed the direction.
Chinese models in all directions, 10 pieces 60dolars in ebay, is not necessary expend lot of money...
They are of pour quality. I've tried.