Great vid! I've tried hovering an r44 a couple times, the most difficult "do nothing" ever! Boy, once it goes on you, well in my case I needed my instructor to regain control 🤣.
Thanks for the comment. Yes it almost completely counterintuitive to do nothing and even when you’re convinced that you’re doing nothing you’re actually still doing something! The trick is getting to the mental place where your subconscious is doing the something but your active mind is not, then you’ll be intuitively doing all those little corrections fast enough not to cause excessive aircraft reaction movement. Good luck!
This illustrates perfectly that hovering is like so many other things (acting, playing an instrument, stand up comedy, etc.) in that it's all about relaxation. And, of course, relaxation comes when one is so practiced that they're no longer thinking... just doing.
The best you tube video on how to hover. Excellent execution.... and very easy to understand explanations.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤. Absolutely brilliant instructing.
Great video. Thanks for posting. Fixed wing pilot here. I had my first lesson in an R22 on 1/1/2024. Quite humbling but I had a few good moments. Had one solid and stable hover with cyclic, anti-torque, and collective after about 30 minutes of trying when I was looking in the distance. After putting it down and picking it up again I couldn’t get it back and was looking too close. After flying partial patterns with my instructor on with me I did a takeoff, flew a pattern and did the final approach down to about 20 feet and asked the instructor to take over. I still can’t get the smile off my face!
Great work, there nothing quite like the mental intensity it takes to begin with. As I think I alluded to in the video, I bet you were trying ‘too hard’ to hover the second time and overly focusing on it. If you try to distract your mind just a little and let your sub-conscious take over, you’ll find it will instinctively react faster that your conscious mind can, probably cause you to relax a bit and voila, you’ll be hovering again! Where did you just do your first flight?
@@Anthelionhelicopters sorry for the late reply. The flight was at Clow airport in Bolingbrook, Illinois, United States. I went back for my second lesson last week, which was the first week of March, 2024. This time I managed to hover with all three controls in about 10 minutes. You are spot on with your analysis about concentrating too hard. If you’re thinking about it, you’re behind the aircraft. There’s no time to think, you just have to do. The instructor was on with me for my takeoff and as soon as we reached 65 kn and 1000 feet AGL he let me fly by myself. Before taking off we plotted a heading to take me in the general direction of my house. As soon as I saw the nearby water tower, I picked my landmark and flew the rest visually. I flew around my neighborhood twice and my coordination was surprisingly good. I then flew the reverse heading back to the airport and flew a couple patterns down to about 100 feet AGL before the instructor took over again for landing. I now I have 2.3 hours and my instructor claims that I’m doing as well as past students that had 10 to 15 hours of flight time. I may have a little talent, but I know he’s an outstanding instructor and that can make all the difference in the world. I’m going to start treatment for cancer next month so I’ll have to put flying on hold for a while but I’m going to try and get one more lesson in beforehand. You have a great channel! I know putting together these videos takes a lot of work and I just want to say thank you.
Thanks for the feedback, it does sound like you are doing a fantastic job. I hope all goes well with your treatment and you're back up in the air soon.@@spitfirekid1
This video was brilliant, thank you for making. I like the way you don't have a student in the helicopter, rather you are talking to the camera and explaining things clearly with clear voice and clear video of what you are doing. If you had a series of videos like this for more PPL sessions, that would be brilliant. I was attempting hover for the first time yesterday and after watching this video I'm eager to give it another shot with your help.
Thanks Niall, glad it was helpful. We will soon be releasing another one of me doing traffic patterns incorporating normal take off, correct scanning, radios and pattern altitudes along with a normal approach. I hope this will be useful. Where are you learning right now? Hovering is certainly very challenging to start with but its all part of the incredible journey!
I'm just starting to fly now, 1h logged in and I was shocked how little feeling I got in the hovering exercise 😅 Nice tips in your video, I'm already looking forward to try them and just be patient as it will come by itself. Thanks for the content, very good 👍
I'm learning now and finally loosening my grip on the controls, lol I hope first time flyers don't think it's as easy as you are doing it. But your videos are excellent. Thank you
I know that PAd well. It took me about 15 hours to learn how to hover properly. But I was flying three days every month. So the first time was always like crawling back in the helicopter for the first time. Also, I had a lot of anxiety so that didn’t help LOL. Now if I can just get my landings down. As far as another video, would love to see a normal approach all the way to the set down. Safe flying…
Thanks for the feedback, yeah its really tough flying infrequently when you're starting out. Where are you training now? Will have a look into doing the normal approach to a set-down for next time
Thank you so much for this! I had my first attempt at a hover in the R22 uesterday and it was exactly as you described. I was all over the place 😆 But this has put my mind at ease, thank you! 😊
Yep 2 bladed systems are very distinct. Pretty fun listening to the difference between the 44 and 66 from a distance and seeing how soon you can spot the difference between the turbine vs piston engine!
Strong work I am Marianne from Sweden. I have tried this with an R44 Raven 1. I think I managed 3 seconds of hovering. The most difficult thing with an helikopter is not flying it, it is geting in an out. I am only 153 cm, but I am not going to let that stop me. Sorry for my bad english. Best Regards. Marianne
Hi Marianne, no apologies necessary, your English is actually very good! How has your training been progressing in Sweden? Yes, we have some smaller students too and they have the same challenges, especially when reaching the pedals!
Sorry that I have taken so long to answer Your E-mail. The day before Yesterday 24/6 I took my fifth helicopterlessen in present time and my sixth altogether. My instructor (poor thing) says that my knowledge is improving for every lessen. Flying an helicopter is not The easiest thing to do. Hovering (don't mention it). Have a nice summer. Best regards Marianne, Sweden. @@Anthelionhelicopters
Great video, thanks. You took your hand off the collective at the end. Presumably, the collective remains in the last position. Is this true of all helicopters?
Yes, on the majority of helicopters the inherent mechanical friction on the collective keeps it from moving. Other than that there is a manual friction that can be actuated when needed to maintain position. In fact only the R22, in my experience actually requires it’s friction to be added to maintain position as it’s basic mechanical friction is not enough usually and it tends to sink without your hand there. Hope that helps
Got 5 hours - 4 in an R-22 and the last hour in an R-44. Tried to hover the 22 without any success, I was looking like the Yogi Bear cartoon when he ended up upside down! Didn't even try in the 44 (instructor said, nothing near the ground) though I did a good straight & level using the instruments to turn and change altitude (had never used instruments before). You gave great instruction on how to maintain a hover, but I was hoping to see more of getting to the hover from the ground, being light on the skids and how much collective is needed to get there and how much left pedal is needed while ascending (and then adding a little right). When you reach altitude it looks like you have to back off on the collective to maintain it. Hovering a helicopter is like rubbing your stomach & patting your head while tap dancing!. I don't fly enough to really get a chance but just curious if you can elaborate on getting there from the ground - thanx.
While camping from one place to another by helicopter, cooking is definitely necessary but the question is whether gas cylinders can be carried in the helicopter.
Isn't hovering in a R44 2 putting too much stress on the engine components and other mechanical stuff? What I mean is this healthy for the helicopter if we are doing it too much?
All helicopters are designed with tolerance design limits. To get mechanical and structural fatigue you would have to be purposely operating outside of the performance limitations of the aircraft. What we are doing here is well within the normal operating range of the aircraft and does not place undue stress on any components.
The majority of learning when starting out is derived from the ‘feel’ of the aircraft through the various controls and learning to apply theory and instinct to successfully manipulate them. While simulators can provide some value in giving insight into what the controls do and how they interact with each other, ultimately new students need to spend far more time in the actual aircraft. That’s not to say that there is not value but I would be cautious about saying they save money. Perhaps in instrument ratings they could give you a good step up but for new pilots doing their private license they have limited value for the most part.
One of the best commentary on Hover! Thank you !!
Wow, thanks! Good luck with your training
Great vid! I've tried hovering an r44 a couple times, the most difficult "do nothing" ever! Boy, once it goes on you, well in my case I needed my instructor to regain control 🤣.
Thanks for the comment. Yes it almost completely counterintuitive to do nothing and even when you’re convinced that you’re doing nothing you’re actually still doing something! The trick is getting to the mental place where your subconscious is doing the something but your active mind is not, then you’ll be intuitively doing all those little corrections fast enough not to cause excessive aircraft reaction movement. Good luck!
@@Anthelionhelicopters Thanks, who knew that the first couple heli lessons (after the first joy ride, that is) ought to be meditation lessons ;).
This illustrates perfectly that hovering is like so many other things (acting, playing an instrument, stand up comedy, etc.) in that it's all about relaxation. And, of course, relaxation comes when one is so practiced that they're no longer thinking... just doing.
Totally right 👍
Your an excellent instructor 👍🏼
Thank you 🙏
Absolutely.❤❤❤❤❤
The best you tube video on how to hover. Excellent execution.... and very easy to understand explanations.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤. Absolutely brilliant instructing.
Thank you so much, glad you could understand my accent! Hope your training is going well!
Thumb on seat, with collective for precision.
Agreed, I use that all the time. Thanks for mentioning
Great video. Thanks for posting.
Fixed wing pilot here. I had my first lesson in an R22 on 1/1/2024. Quite humbling but I had a few good moments. Had one solid and stable hover with cyclic, anti-torque, and collective after about 30 minutes of trying when I was looking in the distance. After putting it down and picking it up again I couldn’t get it back and was looking too close. After flying partial patterns with my instructor on with me I did a takeoff, flew a pattern and did the final approach down to about 20 feet and asked the instructor to take over. I still can’t get the smile off my face!
Great work, there nothing quite like the mental intensity it takes to begin with. As I think I alluded to in the video, I bet you were trying ‘too hard’ to hover the second time and overly focusing on it. If you try to distract your mind just a little and let your sub-conscious take over, you’ll find it will instinctively react faster that your conscious mind can, probably cause you to relax a bit and voila, you’ll be hovering again! Where did you just do your first flight?
@@Anthelionhelicopters sorry for the late reply. The flight was at Clow airport in Bolingbrook, Illinois, United States. I went back for my second lesson last week, which was the first week of March, 2024. This time I managed to hover with all three controls in about 10 minutes. You are spot on with your analysis about concentrating too hard. If you’re thinking about it, you’re behind the aircraft. There’s no time to think, you just have to do. The instructor was on with me for my takeoff and as soon as we reached 65 kn and 1000 feet AGL he let me fly by myself. Before taking off we plotted a heading to take me in the general direction of my house. As soon as I saw the nearby water tower, I picked my landmark and flew the rest visually. I flew around my neighborhood twice and my coordination was surprisingly good. I then flew the reverse heading back to the airport and flew a couple patterns down to about 100 feet AGL before the instructor took over again for landing. I now I have 2.3 hours and my instructor claims that I’m doing as well as past students that had 10 to 15 hours of flight time. I may have a little talent, but I know he’s an outstanding instructor and that can make all the difference in the world.
I’m going to start treatment for cancer next month so I’ll have to put flying on hold for a while but I’m going to try and get one more lesson in beforehand.
You have a great channel! I know putting together these videos takes a lot of work and I just want to say thank you.
Thanks for the feedback, it does sound like you are doing a fantastic job. I hope all goes well with your treatment and you're back up in the air soon.@@spitfirekid1
I've never seen better instruction on this
Thank you so much, i really appreciate it 🙏👍🚁
This video was brilliant, thank you for making. I like the way you don't have a student in the helicopter, rather you are talking to the camera and explaining things clearly with clear voice and clear video of what you are doing. If you had a series of videos like this for more PPL sessions, that would be brilliant. I was attempting hover for the first time yesterday and after watching this video I'm eager to give it another shot with your help.
Thanks Niall, glad it was helpful. We will soon be releasing another one of me doing traffic patterns incorporating normal take off, correct scanning, radios and pattern altitudes along with a normal approach. I hope this will be useful. Where are you learning right now? Hovering is certainly very challenging to start with but its all part of the incredible journey!
Excellent - the hover 🚁 duration and commentary sets this lessons learnings above all! 👊🇨🇦
Glad you enjoyed it, where are you flight training up in Canada?
Useful lesson. Smooth control input is relaxing indeed.
Thankyou 👍 glad you enjoyed it
Thank you Super explanation, appreciate.
I'm from Germany, did my Training in Bell 47 was awesome ( Springfield,Mo. 1987 and 1990 ).
Such a great instructor.
Thank you, much appreciated!
I wish you were teaching here in Nashville.
@@ericrobert5296 Different coast, unfortunately! Let us know if you are ever out this way!
Impressive skill set.
Thankyou 👏
VERY HELPFULL, THANKS CAPT.
Thanks, so glad you found it useful
I'm just starting to fly now, 1h logged in and I was shocked how little feeling I got in the hovering exercise 😅 Nice tips in your video, I'm already looking forward to try them and just be patient as it will come by itself. Thanks for the content, very good 👍
Glad you enjoyed it, stick with it and it will all suddenly make sense!
Absolutely brilliant
Thankyou 👍🚁
Great video and very useful info, I admire your calm demeanor.
thankyou, glad you found it helpful
I'm learning now and finally loosening my grip on the controls, lol I hope first time flyers don't think it's as easy as you are doing it. But your videos are excellent. Thank you
nice teachings, very important
Thank you for your feedback, I', glad you enjoyed it. Please check out our other training videos. We'll also be adding another one very soon.
Had my first lesson, I did pretty well on the hover thanks to you!
@@realadammason great. Congratulations 🍾🎉 so happy I could help!
Fantastic video,very clear.well done.
Thankyou, glad you found it useful 👍
Thanks for anther great video 🇨🇱
glad you enjoyed it
Awesome!
Thanks 🚁💪
I know that PAd well. It took me about 15 hours to learn how to hover properly. But I was flying three days every month. So the first time was always like crawling back in the helicopter for the first time. Also, I had a lot of anxiety so that didn’t help LOL. Now if I can just get my landings down. As far as another video, would love to see a normal approach all the way to the set down. Safe flying…
Thanks for the feedback, yeah its really tough flying infrequently when you're starting out. Where are you training now? Will have a look into doing the normal approach to a set-down for next time
Thanks for all this. Learned a few more things about flying a helicopter
Fantastic, glad it was helpful 🚁🚁
Thank you so much, great explanation!
Fantastic, glad you enjoyed it. Hope it helped with your training!
I appreciate your technics.
@@kathytripp1684 thankyou! 🙏🚁
LO MEJOR QUE HE VISTO Y OIDO SOBRE APRENDER A SENTIR EL HELICOPTERO FLOTANDO Y SER PARTE DE SU SISTEMA , MUY BIEN
Thankyou , I'm glad it was useful! Good luck with your training.
Nice camera angles. I'm going to attempt to fly one of these in a couple days.
Go for it!
Thank you so much for this! I had my first attempt at a hover in the R22 uesterday and it was exactly as you described. I was all over the place 😆 But this has put my mind at ease, thank you! 😊
Great, just stick with it, relax and it will suddenly all make sense when you least expect it!
Perfeito
Glad you liked it!
In my area we have quite a few R 22 as well as R44 and R66 chopper activity distinct sound
Yep 2 bladed systems are very distinct. Pretty fun listening to the difference between the 44 and 66 from a distance and seeing how soon you can spot the difference between the turbine vs piston engine!
Awesome video!
Thank you! Glad you liked it 🚁👍
Very good training advice I will be watching more of your flight training videos, Peter,
Thanks, we’ll be getting back in the seat with them very soon!
Strong work
I am Marianne from Sweden.
I have tried this with an R44 Raven 1.
I think I managed 3 seconds of hovering.
The most difficult thing with an helikopter is not flying it, it is geting in an out. I am only 153 cm, but I am not going to let that stop me.
Sorry for my bad english.
Best Regards.
Marianne
Hi Marianne, no apologies necessary, your English is actually very good! How has your training been progressing in Sweden? Yes, we have some smaller students too and they have the same challenges, especially when reaching the pedals!
Sorry that I have taken so long to answer Your E-mail.
The day before Yesterday 24/6 I took my fifth helicopterlessen in present time and my sixth altogether.
My instructor (poor thing) says that my knowledge is improving for every lessen.
Flying an helicopter is not The easiest thing to do.
Hovering (don't mention it).
Have a nice summer.
Best regards
Marianne, Sweden.
@@Anthelionhelicopters
@@MarianneLindberg Good to hear that things are going well, good luck!
Great video, thanks. You took your hand off the collective at the end. Presumably, the collective remains in the last position. Is this true of all helicopters?
Yes, on the majority of helicopters the inherent mechanical friction on the collective keeps it from moving. Other than that there is a manual friction that can be actuated when needed to maintain position. In fact only the R22, in my experience actually requires it’s friction to be added to maintain position as it’s basic mechanical friction is not enough usually and it tends to sink without your hand there. Hope that helps
@@Anthelionhelicopters
Thank you very much for the clear explanation. Safe flying.
Got 5 hours - 4 in an R-22 and the last hour in an R-44. Tried to hover the 22 without any success, I was looking like the Yogi Bear cartoon when he ended up upside down! Didn't even try in the 44 (instructor said, nothing near the ground) though I did a good straight & level using the instruments to turn and change altitude (had never used instruments before). You gave great instruction on how to maintain a hover, but I was hoping to see more of getting to the hover from the ground, being light on the skids and how much collective is needed to get there and how much left pedal is needed while ascending (and then adding a little right). When you reach altitude it looks like you have to back off on the collective to maintain it. Hovering a helicopter is like rubbing your stomach & patting your head while tap dancing!. I don't fly enough to really get a chance but just curious if you can elaborate on getting there from the ground - thanx.
There is another video on Pick-ups and Set-downs , which addresses that and should help you!
@@Anthelionhelicopters Thanx for the reply, I'll probably never get to try it but I'll check it out just for fun!
While camping from one place to another by helicopter, cooking is definitely necessary but the question is whether gas cylinders can be carried in the helicopter.
Isn't hovering in a R44 2 putting too much stress on the engine components and other mechanical stuff? What I mean is this healthy for the helicopter if we are doing it too much?
All helicopters are designed with tolerance design limits. To get mechanical and structural fatigue you would have to be purposely operating outside of the performance limitations of the aircraft. What we are doing here is well within the normal operating range of the aircraft and does not place undue stress on any components.
@@Anthelionhelicopters thanks for the response!!
I noticed that imost nstructors dont mention the benefits in practising at home using a flight simulator to gain experience and save money. 😮
The majority of learning when starting out is derived from the ‘feel’ of the aircraft through the various controls and learning to apply theory and instinct to successfully manipulate them. While simulators can provide some value in giving insight into what the controls do and how they interact with each other, ultimately new students need to spend far more time in the actual aircraft. That’s not to say that there is not value but I would be cautious about saying they save money. Perhaps in instrument ratings they could give you a good step up but for new pilots doing their private license they have limited value for the most part.
Hope u all are still alive lol
That's why good, comprehensive, and thorough training is important.