The Design of the Lunar Rover Was Mostly Guesswork
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- Опубліковано 18 лип 2019
- NASA began working on lunar vehicles in the early 1960s - but the project relied more on guesswork than engineering precision. After all, no one had any idea what being on the moon would be like.
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Whoever came up with this side mission is a legend.
I always wondered how they got that rover on the moon in that tiny lunar lander. Thanks Smithsonian Channel!
It was folded up for easy storage and weighed about 35kg on the surface of the moon.
@@neilogborne7947 Which is why the 1g rated and tested Winch was only needed for faking the trip on earth.
Assembled Together
we are the only ones that realize that. it won't fit through the hatch and how did they all fit into that small space .how much fuel do you have to burn to catch up with the orbiter that moves at 17000 m/hr they don't have the volume for that. furthermore how did thet escape the radiation belt??? and they had NO PROBLEMS WITH THE MOST DIFFICULT MISSION IN THE HISTORY OF MAN KIND . HOW DID THEY GET INSTAN RECEP BETWEEN EARTH AND THE MOON TION . hello john . how are you doin on the moon today ? fine . .. .no delay!!!
@@johannschutte466 nobody realized we're gonna asked these questions.
I remember my dad working in Santa Barbara on 1G
He's probably riding on one now
RIP DAD
Acording to Mr. Ray Ronquillo, Velcro was first used on the back of the backpacks and seat to keep the riders in place on the lunar rover.
Wasn't it around before that? A quick google search will prove you wrong
Well after the 2 astronauts died because of velcro, I can see why they didn't.
First used ? Not hardly. Velcro was patented in 1955 and was in wide commercial use starting in the late '50s. The first lunar rover wasn't until Apollo 15 in 1971.
According to easily found info on the Internet, Velcro was used only on the lunar rover's seat belts, not on the seat backs to stick the astronauts to the seats. How would they have gotten unstuck?
NASA engineers have little appreciation for a truly thrilling Rover experience. For example, pogo stick propulsion would allow fun & games to be coupled with scientific observation.
God id love to ride one of those
That’s what ur mom said
General Motors has used this method for decades.
Hungarian engineer Ferenc Pavlics came up with the idea of the collapsable moon rover... a genius, but never mind.
I googled his name and found out that he and his team designed the rover in Goleta CA not far from me. Amazing.
Two GM car engineers came up basic model, structure. Started with where it had to FIT as freight. Built a radio control model. Put a GI Joe space doll in it. Introduced themselves to Von Brauhn by driving it into his office ahead of themselves. SOLD... GM did Most of the real car engineering, MD did the space Harding
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The wheels were designed by African-American engineer Dr. Robert Shurney, who also designed the solar shield for Apollo 15,16, 17 ... and he also designed space bathrooms that function in zero gravity...among other things
My dad helped design the wheels and actually got to ask one question to astronauts on the moon when they used it.
Also there used to be a competition in Huntsville, Alabama (where Marshall Space Flight Center- NASA's r&d) on building a rover by high schools and tech schools every year.
I hope he didn't suggest those lawn chairs.
They are still doing the competition, I'm doing it now for senior design
It’s all fake guys 👍😂
Dr Robert Shurney ?
Edit : OK your dad was one of a team who knew? Most were compartmentalised and sworn to secrecy
I think the Rover wheels are the only case where reinventing the wheel (beyond the phrase) has ever worked in application. You see so many "ideas" which are rehashes of the early 1900's ideas and none of them work, meanwhile, these things could be usable today just as fine as they were back then. I'm honestly surprised that they didn't use them for the rovers on Mars, but i suppose they had to learn their lessons with their waste-of-time hollow message printing wheels that are getting continuously chewed out. They didn't repeat it on the second attempt.
Apollo era engineers were steely eyed missile people.
no he didn’t
Of the so many mind blowing achievements in this mission, the rover certainly is the ultimate tour de force cherry.
The harmonic drive transmission was a thing of genius.
@Jeff Baker
Thank you for noticing, I was starting to get worried.
You know stuff we get it and we want to know more.
Akhnank
@@SangMarocain Abshink
Im not a flat earther but is it me or the surface looks like idk weird maybe its just me or the camera was sucks
I’m not a flat earther, but I don’t think we went to the moon. I think nasa is a money laundering operation that has been caught lying 1000 times.
What do you mean it looks weird? What expectations did you have and what set them?
I met an old guy named Martin Riggs (seriously) who was instrumental in the tire design.
Yea I knew Fred Williams seriously he was the actual lawn chair builder and tarp/ tin foil wrap man on the lunar modeul
I know Ray Ronquillo chief engineer for that first rover on the moon.
😂😂😂😂
Ray Ronquillo II was the chief engineer for the first lunar rover.
Chief designer of LRV was a Polish guy Mieczysław Bekker, born and educated in Poland. He was and author of book „ Theory of land locomotion” that was his idea to make LRV wheels from metal net. German Von Braun took You to the moon. Polish guy made you could drive there.
American Liberty and Individualism let them innovate without oppression....too bad those days are gone.
uHff! Really outstanding 👌
what energy density did the batteries have for the rover ? even with the weight being reduce to one sixth they must have calculated the range and loadings ....
also consider the temperature on the moon surface (-160 - 120 c) I really can not imagine a battery (I didn't see any battery pack of significant size) that would produce that kind of power
@@davidwen5092 Power was provided by two 36-volt silver-zinc potassium hydroxide non-rechargeable batteries with a charge capacity of 121 A·h each (a total of 242 A·h), yielding a range of 57 miles (92 km).
@@nicolaiby1846 get the fk outahere! Link to specs or it never existed
@@fukenbiker the specs were all lost along with 13000 reels of tape with no backups
See jeranisms latest video
@@williamsmith9026 says the specs got lost? Imagine that.
According to conspiracy enthusiast it's just a willys Jeep. I once search a video to look at documentary about the lunar lander. Somehow on the top of the recommendation It was conspiracy video. Thanks smithsonian for giving me the documentary I looking for
Where is the spare tire?
Another MASTERPIECE signed NASA.
Inb4 the moon lander deniers arrive.
looks like the sheep are already here
Moon Mobbin'
How could that thin metal mesh withstand the extreme temperatures of the sun's heat on the moon?
Uh, i mean, it gets hot on the moon, but not _that_ hot.
@@naverilllang the temperature on the moon is said to be over 130 degrees celcius
@@john-roywattie1483 Which isn't much. Temperatures on the surface of earth can be above 70c as well. Its really not hard at all.
They simply wrapped the temperature sensitive equipment in foil. Its well known that lunar dust occasionally got in and the astronauts occasionally had to manually dust off equipment and deal with overheating issues. But it generally worked, only the dust posed problems.
Keep the temperature sensitive equipment out of the hot sun with non-conductive materials like foil and you won't have an issue. There is no atmosphere there to speak of, so once you're in the shade you're good.
@@john-roywattie1483 Commercial ovens that are made of the exact same material reach temperatures above twice that found on the moon regularly, with little to no effect on the metal. The higher end can reach up to 127c which is roughly 260f on the moon, and the melting point for steel is somewhere between 2500-2800f, or roughly 1371-1540c. You'd be better off worrying about things freezing.
Because it’s metal. It isn’t chocolate. 🤦♂️
It would be good to have more detail, perhaps an animation showing the Rover being folded and stored into the LEM base cavity, or a cutaway diagram of the obviously limited space in the LEM base. Live detailed footage and animations of the Rover's extraction and assembly would also help us better understand how ingenious this design was. Does anyone know what the significantly large vacant space was used for in missions that landed prior to the Rover's integration? Did incorporation of the Rover require a total redesign on the LEM base?
There is an excellent UA-cam video called 'What's inside the Lunar Module?'. It shows where everything is. There is also one called 'Apollo 15 unpacking of the Lunar Rover' which shows the astronauts deploying it. Links sometimes don't work in comments, but you can search the titles.
Vehicle Familiarization Manual LM 10 Through LM 14. Start with that. It shows how they had to restructure the five landers for the changes on Apollo 16-20. (But, of course, those became only three landers for Apollo 15 -17, after Apollo 18-20 were canceled.) From there, you can go on with just plain searches to find tons of animations and actual videos of packing and unpacking.
All fake.
Hmmm. If only you had access to the Internet, you could have found everything you wanted to see and know about the lunar rover within seconds and read and watched hours of info, documentaries specifically about the rover, and even footage of astronauts deploying and using the rover on the moon. 😄
@@TS-ef2gv I've had online access since MS-Windows 1.0 I believe, and certainly since Windows 2.0, around 1987. It was a revelation, we could nearly multi-task while using 9600 baud modems to access Bulletin Boards (they were pre-internet forums) on our wonderful 80286 PCs with protected mode and one megabyte of RAM plus 40 meg HDDs using voice coil actuators that we'd personally RLL'd up to higher capacity. Were you even born in 1987? I've been around since the '50s :-)
Tell them to make ramps@
The tyres were designed by Dr. Robert Shurney. Look him up.
Actually you can drive today a Tesla Model X on the moon
lol
That would suggest that Space X has actually manned a mission or landed on a planetoid... But they haven’t done any of that.
@@johnnyfavorite1194 they will one day, and I would like to go with my Model X. Whenever I buy it.
Little known fact Wernher von Braun back in 1952 wrote a science fiction book about a guy who went to Mars the guys Name Elon . He is a government puppet
So please explain how they were streaming video back to earth from an 8mm camera 😅😅😅
Or why did they record their previous tracks on this video instead of new terrain
Shut up
Haaaaa. It’s easy to get to moon but some how we forgot how we did it.
@@andytuesday500 We didn't forget, it's just 1960's tech isn't exactly our style anymore
@@combinationova1400 It's just astronomically expensive, and we've done plenty of research and made several trips to the moon already. The only real reason to go back would be to mine materials or colonize the place. Or simply to say you'd been there.
Guess work? Looks like a ton of real engineering work.
Yeah, that's a strange way to title the video. But, maybe they're referring to the fact that NASA only commissioned Boeing and General Motors to build the thing just 1 year before the due date. So, it was a massive effort to engineer the thing in a huge hurry. Perhaps some guessing was involved.
It looks like guesswork to me for some simple things like not having a artificial temp lab powerful enough to recreate the 140-160 celsius temp that will affect batteries + radiation that affects battery behaviour drastically…this was only found out in the last 10 years that batteries are deteriorated at an incredible rate and recent -274 celsius where matter has a fifth state called bose einstein …i find it like guesswork …also they need to use the same batteries they had in the 60s on these new teslas cause their range drop dramatically at just -40 celsius😂
You can actually 'try' this car in Gran Turismo 6 (a PS3 game).
I rover came later. First came man and earlier missions had scoops to collect "soil" samples....so the guesswork was minimized.
They started developing this way before Apollo 15... while there was scope for minor changes between 11 to 14, it would not be much.
Apollo 11-12 gave the 1st look at the consistency of the ground at 2 locations.... (whew!)
Como llego a la luna y como lo bajaron.
Can the Lunar Rovers be Started Up
Again if we go back to the Moon
?? 🌙 🌙
They were battery powered so in theory bringing new batteries could be done. However, I'd guess that 50 years of solar radiation and heat/cold cycles have probably wreaked havoc on the electronics and motors themsevles.
Just want to say to all the Pinoys here saying it was designed by a fellow countryman of theirs; its actually a hoax/myth. Eduardo San Juan was an engineer who proposed a design for a lunar rover but his design was not selected. The Lunar Rover Vehicle was designed by a team of engineers from Boeing and General Motors.
Man gotta say Neil was really Lucky !!
Naaa we are lucky to have someone like neil
Neil and Buzz didn't take a rover with them . Astronauts on later Apollo missions were lucky enough to drive them . Neil was lucky though - first man on the moon .
@@coonjamalay yes we where good to no NASA Neil Armstrong Space Actor named the company after him very cool
Did they guess how much spaghetti to put into their lunches?
easily - all of it.
Mom's spaghetti.
You do realize that sand already had a .3 frictional co eff. Now you add mesh to lower it even more. .25HP would even move the wheel
Sand =/= Lunar dust
Not the same thing. Lunar Rover Vehicle was a genius design.
Its amazing how usa went to the moon under the age of 200
Which make it amazing 👏
I dont know
But almost all american are supportive
Specially on technology breakthrough
I wish the Smithsonian Channel would do a video on all the Giant's Skeletons that the Institute has stored away in their vaults.
you're smarter than all these idiots that think people landed on the moon in a cardboard and tin foil movie prop... with a car no doubt
@a b That’s a car? Yes, the entire world are idiots, including scientists of varying fields and different countries. But you’re woke cause you saw a conspiracy video.
i think it should be paramount for science majors to take graphic arts classes and video editing history classes...........and vice versa, so that each could see each other's perspectives equally. if someone told me NASA landed man on the moon, without trying to prove it with the chosen video footage, i would have blindly believed it without any questioning. But after seeing the videos.......................yeah, i question it.
@@davidh5276 Why do you ask questions when you sent the answers?
سبحان الله، علم الإنسان مالم يعلم
My teacher played this video in school
Facts this is first made by pilipino scientific.
Just credit the design and maker to a FILIPINO....Mechanical engineer Eduardo San Juan (aka The Space Junkman) worked on the team that invented the Lunar Rover, or Moon Buggy.
👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏
Whole video about Lunar Rover without showing the Lunar Rover
Have you ever seen the real pictures of earth from space?
No you have not. They dont exist. Just like the lunar rover.
Money thievery at its finest
And only cost $18,000,000 . How much were the fold up deckchairs?
They were $38 million each, and that was in 1970 money.
LUNA
60 millones de $ ???????
Propulsion? Battery tech back then was terrible and very very heavy. Are we supposed to believe that one of these did 35km on one mission?
Why wouldn’t it? It was a very light vehicle with very little resistance.
My KABABAYAN invented moon buggy.
came here because of Jamiroquai, anyone else?
TDI URL G...
The magic of NVIDIAS CGI.
the magic of your 2 inch brain
A lot of top notch engineering sure went into that guesswork. 🙄
But how does it work if theres no air to make it work with engine
There is an electric motor driving each wheel.
its electric
How’d they land a car and people on the moon 50 years ago but don’t have the technology to do it now?
Cos it's fake.
mel grant
Oh dear, Mel... oh dear, oh dear, oh dear......
mel grant
Yes you are Mel, yes you are...
The same we had the Concorde 50 years ago and we don't have it now or anything remotely similar
What do mean by “oh dear?”
Why don't we use these tyres on earth? We have to move away from rubber
It doesnt grow from tree 🌲?
Because we're not driving a 5mph on a planetary body with minimal gravity?
Metal on concrete.. use your head.
Mesh tires work great on low gravity objects like the Moon 1/6 Earth) and Mars (1/3 Earth). They also have a significant weight advantage, critical in Aerospace design. Plus the rovers do not travel long distances or at high speeds.
On Earth, not much advantage. They do not have durability for long distance travel, weight is not critical. The higher loads due to our gravity, significantly higher speeds and distance covered, make mesh tires impractical for most applications here on Earth.
Actually that moon video scene looks smaller than my property, like 300 ft! not 2,159.2 miles
You're not a flat mooner, are you?
@@rockethead7 no. not when Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee sacrificed their lives.
You can walk five miles an hour on earth. It only went 6 miles an hour? They could have bunny hopped faster than that.
Not carrying samples
What kind of motor propelled this vehicle? Electric? Did internal combustion engine work on the moon with no oxygen?
Each of the four wheels had its own electric motor.
luna rover was invented by a Filipino
In before the flat earthers and other fruit loops tell us we never landed on the moon.
Same here, there are so many too... it's annoying
I am sorry for being a person who questions everything, you don't have to be a fruit loop to know when we are being lied to, don't you think that it's a little strange that we never went back to the moon? Why don't you just look into the fact that they have been studying the photos of the moon landings and found that the flag was wet and mud on the space suits, last time I checked it doesn't rain on the moon! Try and think out of the box for just a few minutes!
@@danieltorrens4954 We never went back to the moon because NASA's budget has been deceased (today's is a mere 12% of the Apollo space program's) and rover technology was developed which is a more economical than sending astronauts.
@@danieltorrens4954 Also I have no idea what you mean by the flag was wet? Furthermore there is no evidence of mud on any of the spacesuits, anything found on it was moon sediment and dust.
I'd love for you to link your made up sources of evidence.
We never went back to the Moon because budgets were slashed and the space race had been won. There was no practical point going back. The focus went to satellites and near Earth orbit research stations. The Moon was a propaganda win. All the nonsense spouted by conspiracy nuts has been widely and scientifically debunked.
People of lesser intelligence that want to think they are smarter. Believing pseudo science. I pity them.
Any ideas on how those lunar rover batteries (from the 1960's) weathered the 265F degree temps on the moon? How about their rubber soled space suit boots?
What is 265F going to do to rubber boots that's slightly hotter than boiling water
@@PabloGonzalez-hv3td Cook somebody's feet?? Check on their boots and you will find that there is no provision for the "cooling fluid" (or tubes) which there is in the rest of the spacesuits to keep them cool.
@@PabloGonzalez-hv3td So tell me how the Kodak film in their still shot and movie cameras survived the heat? Film negatives and films rolls absolutely cannot survive those kinds of temps (proven) and there was no insulation ot protection for the film in those cameras (proven).. Shall I continue?
I was employed with 3M at one of their smaller plants in northern CA, for just over 23 years ( until we closed in 2009 ). When the corporation reached its 100th anniversary ( sometime in the early 2000s ) they gave us all these big books on the company's history. I remember a photo of that footprint on the moon's surface....along with the story of how 3M developed the material that was used for the soles of those boots.
@@1BADGT500 - The moon has a wide temperature _range_ you're automatically assuming they encountered the hottest conditions and if you're wondering how they dealt with potentially high temps you should probably look in to how people walk on lava flows taking pictures and videos
Ooooh that's how hahahaha
Stop landing on the moon. There is nothing what we need. 😂
There is it not only might contain helium 3 needed for fusion is excellent for a telescope as a launching platform due to low gravity and to satisfy our curiousity
They had to guess how to fit it on the soundstage?
Lol Bert!
You look old.
I hope you're not too old before you come up with your second ever joke....
I used to think it was real, but ever since CN made achivements on moon explore, I found this might be fake, cuz its so hard to get to moon, let alone taking a rover and race on there. Maybe I am wrong.
Who said it was easy. We know it was hard.
If Russia was the first in space, how come they never made it to the moon after all these years?
They freaked out about the Americans being right on their tail and poured everything they had into being "First at everything" - even putting their own cosmonauts in danger to do so by rigging impromptu solutions with the equivalent of duct tape and spit rather than take the time to do it properly - and blew their lead by neglecting the long-term. They wasted so much on propaganda that by the time they started serious development on the N-1, the Americans had been quietly working on the Saturn V for about 4 years. They then tried to rush development to compensate and, combined with the death of their lead rocket designer in early 1966, wound up with a piece of garbage that blew up every time they tried to launch it.
Their rocket ended up having a fatal design flaw that would have required them to scrap large portions of it to fix, if not start mostly from scratch; having a large number of smaller engines, as opposed to the 5 engines on the American ship, caused so much vibration that the ship tore itself apart. Had they actually continued their plans to go to the moon, they would have faded into complete irrelevancy because the Americans weren't going to sit there waiting for them to fix it and catch up. By the time they had gotten to the moon, the Americans would have finished pioneering the space station, and by the time they got to the space station, the Americans would have done something else.
Soviet Union was. Not some "russia".
There's no notes about what a 210kg mass bolted to the side of the LEM did to the balance, which given the single central motor would have been extremely critical.
Then the 1g winch at 1:11 , that wasted the crews of Apollo 15,16,17 about half an hour each. With a lunar weight of 17.5kg each NASA would have added two handles and got the astronauts to simply carry it out to a space on the lunar surface.
The 1g winch was needed to play with it in an earth based studio.
It's not like rearranging equipment to rebalance was out of the question
@@PabloGonzalez-hv3td Yes, that's the only way to re-balance. There's no mention, record or discussion of this being needed or done - it's almost like they lowered the LM from a winch and so the question never came up :).
There's also no discussion of getting an astronaut to move inside either, they both rushed to the front, noses against the windows when they were slowing down to land LOL
Don't forget those glorious test flights prior to perfect touchdown in unknown conditions, these guys really were Godlike
On or near the moon, they are under the gravity of the moon, which is around 1/6th of that of earth. Balance does not become a critical issue.
@@bobolulu7615 Ignorant comment of the day.
Invented by Filipino
It is a hoax!!! Not real
Why does not the rover jump when it faces rocks like it should do with 1 /6 of gravity?
because its going literally 3 mph
Good question
Because it is heavy even at 1/6g and it's also going really slow.
If you watch the video you’ll see him describing how the wheels work
They need to maintain control, it's not a game, if an astronaut falls out and lands on his face shield, or even just tears his suit, he's dead, it's not like the movies.
Was it easier to film the rover on EARTH....I guess so... hey...isn't that the same film as what was shown in the Apollo filming MISSIONS. It can't be....wow...we have thr same conditions here on EARTH as the LUNAR SURFACE... AMAZING how the backdrop of the Apollo filming MISSIONS are IDENTICAL to the HILLS in HAWAII near the base of several volcanoes and the VOLCANIC ash SOIL condition was PERFECT for the Apollo filming MISSIONS
@Moose Racks Absolute nonsense. They’re nothing alike. Wash out your eyes and ears, maybe somehow your brain will be washed too.
come on now, you know he’s right
@@bomblade15 poor you...I feel sorry for people who have been brain washed....just like you....wah.... your little world would be crushed if you knew and accepted the truth that man has NEVER physically walked on the lunar surface...NEVER...just ask Buzz Aldrin
@@michaelraspanti339 I know he uttered 100% nonsense.
@@Mooseracks You can feel sorry for me. You feel sorry for those that have actual intelligence. Must be tough living in your world where you accept the word of people with no credentials, education, experience, know how, or intellect.
Filmed in New Mexico.. Jeep body with a couple lawn chair . You folks are so gullible
Jeep width of track 48.25”
Rover width of track 72”
Didn't know NM's sky was black and the soil completely colorless. Must pay a visit then. Is it free?
its all look like fake
No.
Stop it
@@aemrt5745 lol
It is as fake as says of our lives. They just hadn't expected technology like we have in the palm of hands now so the name calling, coverup and doubling down continues.
No science at all
I'm sure the United States has landed on every planet in the universe. They just haven't told us yet.
i thought people on the internet believed the opposite
This is next level. You are a miracle of ignoramity
every planet in the Multiverse! Thanks to the inter dimensional portal at area 51!
The moon isn't a planet,it's a moon called the moon.
I’ll tell you something funny. The moon rover was a blast. The astronauts discovered that they could jump from one crater to another, so they had a monster truck rally. But they broke all the fenders off the rover so they had to call NASA and say they were sorry. But it wasn’t their fault because those space boots are heavy, and the gas pedal was very sensitive. It could happen to anyone.
How much did that thing weigh,a flat packed car taken to the moon............haha.
35kg on the moon, about 200kg on earth.
80 million in American dollars
It looks exactly like a Jeep chassis.
Except for being a foot shorter, and more that two feet wider.
Really? A Jeep chassis is a foldable flat panel chassis with wire mesh flip-out wheels, and doesn't even have the same dimensions as any Jeep ever made? Really? Oh, let me guess, you watched a conspiracy video claiming it was a Jeep chassis, and just regurgitated exactly what they said. Right? Yes, you be a good little puppet and say exactly what your masters tell you to say.
@@rockethead7 if the moon landings were real they would not need psychos like you to defend them.
Oi dis false knowledge
A Filipino made the Luna rover
👹 Might Satan be lurking at your chamber door? 👹
Space Force will have us going to our Moon and Mars on the same mission. That genius in the WH....hahaha
We already have space force. It's called the United States Air Force, and their space budget dwarfs NASA.
@@jshepard152….I suggest you call Trump. He isn't aware.
Oscar level 😂
Bull dust!!!They could barely fit the bloody astronauts in the capsule.🙊🙊🙊
I guess you didn't do much research into this design, did you?
It asks in the capsule half wit.
Looks so unreal. The dust apparently got quite some resistance to make them quickly reduced speed and fly slowly back to the surface, same as falling dust on earth. Which means the video was taken in an environment with dense AIR and big gravity. And we all know there is NO AIR on moon surface. And the gravity is 1/6 of earth. They dust should fly way further and should NOT reduce speed and the flying path should be a perfect parabola, instead of almost vertical fall at the end.
The behaviour of the dust in all of the Apollo Mission footage shown no air resistance effects and is exactly what would be expected of a low gravity and vacuum environment. The dust follows parabolic trajectories. On Earth dust tends to billow and form clouds. There is no signs whatsoever of this in the footage. This was filmed in a vacuum. Take care.
@@TheWokeFlatEarthTruth ok chatbot
Do people still think this is real ?
I do
Do people still think this is fake?
Yes. Its all they have to hang onto.
They willperish from their booster shots soon
Certainly. People know this.
I used to think it was real, but ever since CN made achivements on moon explore, I found this might be fake, cuz its so hard to get to moon, let alone taking a rover and race on there. Maybe I am wrong.
a true feat of engineering to design the best rover for driving around a sound stage
Go away you silly duffer. Your ignorance is showing
@@0patience4flz So you're an authority on all this yes ? I'm impressed. NOT
@@skyfacer9626 ok...see u on the moon...not
@@0patience4flz You stay right where you are in 'dream cuckoo fantasy land' Chris. It's fairly obvious you're happy existing there.
@@skyfacer9626 ok it was kinda nice talking to you..take care...no hard feelings
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JPL / NASA electronic lunar car was a not real on the moon land...
the videocamera tape was cutting half slowly speed recording while car moved running on the hide earth land...
real natural 2X speeding video
@bestamerica I’ll just assume your first language isn’t English or that you have a learning disability.
Guesswork.
Fun fact: the first lunar Rover was invented in Philippines in the 19s and was shipped in many different countries and that's what Neil Armstrong used in 1969:)
Where did they store it for trip??? Bs
It was folded up inside the lunar module descent stage...it takes 3 seconds to look it up ..you know.. on that thing they call the internet...
Did you even watch the video…
As usual, hubby, as you've demonstrated across hundreds of messages in dozens of videos, you're clearly not interested in the answers to your own questions. You don't even watch the videos before you reject what's in them. Like, in this video, they show you the answer to your question both at 1:05 and 1:55. But, you don't have the attention span to even watch a 2 minute video before you post your question. Are you actually PROUD of your own ridiculous behavior?
I can't believe people believe this nonsense.
Luckily, 'belief' doesn't even enter the equation, because Apollo is _objectively_ provable.
Can't you? Oh well, nevermind.
Yes absolutely fake like your whole life 😂
@@marioarias9942
The joke is on you.
Let's take a bet okay? In a few years they will go back and if there is nothing on Tranquility base you win a million dollars but if everything is there you get tossed out with no space suit 😂
If that is on the moon with close to zero gravity, why does the sand fall straight to the ground. Isn't that gravity in action?
@Feyner Fug yeah I meant relatively close to zero compared to earth ya know? To me the sand falling and displacing when they walk looks like earths gravity. If it was on the moon you would think there'd be a huge plume floating behind that gradually settled.
Because they’re not on the moon. The whole lunar program was to keep the Russians at bay. After all, the United States was fighting a Cold War.
@@michaelraspanti339 that's what I'm sayin
@@aemrt5745 yeah but it's falling too quick! 1/6th earths, it should be falling way slower. It's not hard to understand.
@@aemrt5745 I mean closer to zero compared to earth, jeeeez.
The boffins say the Moon's gravity at the surface is only 17 percent that of Earth's. Using the same force of a jump on Earth, you could rise about 3 metres (10 feet) off the ground and stay in the air for about 4 seconds with a spacsuit ,when the astronauts jumped on the moon it was 2ft same as earth Thats why I believe we never went to the moon
Except it’s all bs, ain’t nobody going to no moon, lol.
No, Sharron, as usual, you're wrong about everything you've ever written for the past years of spewing your nonsense. If you want to compare the heights jumped, and then assume it's linear to the amount of gravity (which is wrong, but, ok, I'll play your game), ok, go ahead and strap on an 88 pound pressure suit, an 80 pound backpack, and 20 pounds of tools and hoses and stuff, and then tell me how high you can jump on Earth. Then, tell me that the astronauts didn't jump high enough. Sorry, you don't get to compare jumping in gym shoes and a T-shirt on Earth to jumping on the moon with 200 pounds of extra stuff (Earth weight anyway), and then pretend it's the same.
Ok if.that's the moon I am Charley Brown.
100% fake
Look at the dust coming of the rear tyres of the rover The boffins say the Moon's gravity at the surface is only 17 percent that of Earth's that dust should be sent straight into space not falling back the way it doese on earth
Why would matter shoot off into space? Clearly you don't know how to do an engineering force analysis.
Because it's all fake,
They never left earth,
50 years later and no pictures on the rover sitting there..
@@ivandelabanque1806 : Pictures of the rover? What camera do you expect to take these photos?
You see, in the real world details and science matter. I realize that in Flattardia there is no such thing as math, science or physics. But you made the claim of no pictures so you tell us where would such pictures be taken from?
@@kitcanyon658keep dreaming.
Sweet lies make some people happy.
Richard Nixon said, American will believe anything they see on TV..
He was so right...
@@ivandelabanque1806 : Wow, that's embarrassing. You ran away from a simple question. That tells everyone here your education level.
Next time, man up or don't try making a lame point to begin with.
guess work? did they even go to the moon
@Smee Self yes can struggle to land for the 7th time but can fund Zalensky ok lol
Fake !!
Y'all easily brainwashed 😂
Says the flat earther.
Mostly fakery
Like your whole life 😂