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Who was John the Baptist? The Essene cousin of Jesus Christ, who was also born into the Essenes. The Bible tells you that John the Baptist was the same soul that had come as Elijah. And the Bible promises that Elijah shall return once again, in the so-called end times. And that would be Yours Truly. Want the secrets of this Universe, including the Meaning of Life? Click and ye shall find....
What? He gets a lot of attention by religious historians, especially Christianity and Islamic historians. Now for non religious historians, what are you expecting? He has no pertinence anywhere outside of theological circles. Vegans of today would love him though because of his diet and weak arms.
We Muslims love the Holy Spirit, the Beloved of God, Jesus, and we love Elijah the Prophet, Abraham, Noah, Joseph, and Zakariya, and our hearts weep for John the Baptist, the betrayed Messenger of God. 😢
What's needed is more dedication to accurate and in depth research into the migrations, enslavement and heritage theft of Hebrew peoples. Love has absolutely nothing to do with Truth. ---------
I.have no religious faith but am.fascinated by something that has had such an impact on the world. As a keen amateur historian I have further interest in tyr the subject too. I enjoy these detailed lectures very much.
I was a believer and wanted to know more about my faith. So I began reading the critical scholarship pertaining to the Bible and ended up reading myself out of Christianity. My interest in the Biblical scholarship, however, has remained.
Love your lectures John, you have such a soft docile timbre I thought these would be great lectures to fall asleep to, kinda like when I was religious and my parents would tell me bible stories to fall asleep to, but you are so interesting I just want to keep listening, its a great example of excellent background research combined with critical thinking, presented in a very amicable way and not taking a side but presenting the evidence at hand - really appreciate your ideas and how professionally you present everything, great job!
There are a lot of channels on UA-cam I won’t watch because of them putting music behind their narrative or commentary. Not only is it distracting, but I don’t need someone trying to manipulate my emotions about what they’re saying.
So , are you ,John ,a Christian ,or a believer in Christ ?? I think it's important for us fans of yours. We love your subjects and lectures they're very informative and fills in a lot of
It's not important, what's important is the degree of truth and certainty in his lectures. Him being a Christian is equally as important as him being a Lakers fan, as long as he's unbiased.
John has expressed frustration elsewhere with the tendency of evangelical churches to portray scripture as literal, inerrant and God breathed. I've pondered what conclusions one might reach if they did not believe that God had his hand on the writing of the scriptures . I think such a person would likely view Christ as more of an idea or ideal as opposed to a deity with whom to have a relationship. Like, you could determine what is true righteousness by studying what humans imagined God should be as opposed to those who say, "there is no God so I'll do what I want." or those who imply that only their interpretation is correct and all else is haresy.
How John the Baptist fits into the broader history around development of Christianity and indeed the broader Abrahamic tradition is really interesting and the mysterious background of the Mandaeans just adds an extra layer that can’t help but get my mind going. As said in this video and others on the channel, it’s impossible to prove whether the Mandaeans truly do go back to John the Baptist, but a couple of things can’t help but stand out to me when wondering about. 1) An austere lifestyle often comes hand in hand with cosmological dualism. Variations on the phenomenon also famously manifested within Jainism and Manichaeism. The notion that the temptations or creature comforts of the material world is evil in some sense naturally lends itself to the idea that the material world at base is evil and something totally apart from the spiritual realm of light. Alternatively, maybe that’s an explanation you might think of to justify the practice afterward. Or it could have motivated by the need for a new direction after the loss of their leader. The point being that the asceticism of John’s movement might have over time given way to Mandaean dualism. John himself wouldn’t have necessarily had to be the one preaching it for it to appear among his followers anymore than it did amongst those in the congregations of Proto-Orthodox Christians. 2) However, if Jesus did take a number of John’s followers with when he started his own ministry and they did bring either Mandaean or Proto-Mandaean concepts along with them, then that could explain why Gnosticism was such a prevalent heretical movement throughout the early church communities. Mandeaeism tends to get classified as a species of Gnosticism due to the amount of overlap. The aforementioned dualistic outlook, a tenuous relationship with the Hebrew Bible, some level of practicing self-denial involved, etc. When it comes to groups who play their cards so close to the chest like the ones in question, it can be hard to know for sure all their most important beliefs. A critical difference of course was that the Gnostics fully embraced the idea that Jesus is the Messiah while the Mandaeans regardless of wherever their origins lie reject him as a false prophet alongside Abraham and Moses. 3) And thus it is also notable that the Gnostics weren’t the only distinctive religious group outside mainline Christianity to accept Jesus as an honored figure. Newer full-blown ancient religions including Manichaeism, Islam and Druzism all adopted him into their story even if they had had different understandings of him than Christians. Specifically, the fact that they viewed him as a prophet rather than the divine son of God. The Mandaeans stand out as a faith connected to the Abrahamic religions many think came after Christianity that didn’t even accept Jesus on those terms. It can’t help but raise the question as to why that might have been the case despite the wider pattern. He was a popular and widely respected figure in their world many claimed as their own which could indicate an established loyalty to John’s movement which preceded the rise of Jesus’ own into what looks like a rival. Naturally, that’s all just me speculating. It’s perhaps even downright fanciful and can have holes poked in it by those who know more about these subjects than I do. But these are the thoughts that came to me about the topic at hand based upon what I know now and I might as well leave them here. These lectures and the discussions alongside them are just great food for thought in general.
The beauty of Jesus mission on 🌎🌍 earth, was Jesus revealed the true nature of divine God. Whereas, John the Baptist was a product of his environment and the biblical history that preceded him. However, credit to John, for realizing (but maybe not fully) the potential of Jesus mission.
Ready to go beyond speculation? John the Baptist was the Essene cousin of Jesus Christ, who was also born into the Essenes. The Bible tells you that John the Baptist was the same soul that had come as Elijah. And the Bible promises that Elijah shall return once again, in the so-called end times. And that would be Yours Truly. Want the secrets of this Universe, including the Meaning of Life? Click and ye shall find....
Josephus' words "... not in order to the putting away of some sins, but for the purification of the body; supposing still that the soul was thoroughly purified beforehand by righteousness" seem to me to indicate that, in John's eyes, the ritual of baptism was specifically _not_ for the remission of sin, but only for the purification of the body, and would only be efficacious if the soul had already been purified or was pure or whatever. This seems to directly contradict the lecturer's characterization at 14:19 the John "[c]alled upon people to practice baptism _for_ _the_ _remission_ of some sins". Not only that, John's idea of baptism as described by Josephus directly contradicts what I understand as church tradition, ie, that baptism purifies the soul and not the body. Given the early church's penchant for syncretizing any belief system with a sizable following, no matter how seemingly contradictory, and given Josephus' failure to mention what should have been a famous meeting between two leaders, it seems likely to me that the alleged baptism of Jesus by John is entirely apocryphal.
1:14:30 you may have missed something in the gospel of Luke. In that version of the Lord's prayer, the disciples ask Jesus to tell them how to pray as John did and he responds with this prayer. Also, I have to disagree when you say it fits with Jesus' ministry more than John's. The Lord's prayer has nothing about vicarious atonement or sacrifice. Rather it is about reciprocal forgiveness, and avoiding temptation, which seems to fit better with the idea of remitting sins and upholding acts of the law. "Thy kingdom come" is also very Lukan, but nothing like the heavenly afterlife from other quarters of christianity. It fits great with the essences, though, who seem to have believed that when the people are pure enough, God's army will come to earth to fight against the Romans. This all seems to fit perfectly with what we can piece together about John. Even the daily bread in the wilderness should immediately remind you of manna in the torah.
John, while you are recovering, a little task for you!!! Can you put to rest the question: WHEN DID THE PHILISTINES ARRIVE IN CANAAN? 1. We have Abraham living among them for a while. 2. Then Isaac sojourned with them. 3. God warned the Israelites away from them in the Exodus. 4.Then we are told that they arrived with the Sea People!!! Please bring some clarity to this situation.
“Lord, teach us to pray, just as John taught his disciples.” Luke 11 Jesus then recites a version of the Lord's Prayer, which is shorter and less elaborate than the version in Matthew, which scholars often argue means it is likely an earlier version. It omits 'thy kingdom come', which you quote as an illustration of why it is a more Jesussy prayer than a Johnny one. Luke is the only source I'm aware of that credits John the Baptist as the origin of the Lord's Prayer, but it seems an odd detail for Luke to add, it seems more likely that Matthew would remove this detail than Luke invent it. On reflection this is a pretty significant detail - it backs up the hypothesis that Jesus was a disciple of John and that some of John's former disciples later followed Jesus - if Jesus wasn't a follower of John why would he be considered an authority on how John would pray ? And if the questioner wasn't formerly a disciples of John, why would he ask Jesus how to pray like John ? Any why would Luke include this detail, unless it was in whatever earlier source he was drawing on, or it was still common knowledge at the time that this prayer was attributed to the John The Baptiser
Jesus did it to be an example for his followers. Matthew 3:15 (KJV) "And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him." Basically telling us that being Baptized by John the Baptist is the right thing to do. Tells us that only John the Baptist has this authority during their time to baptize. Baptism is to be identified with the Lord Jesus Christ.
I don't know what do you think :)? Perfect logic. Baptism is to cleanse yourself and renew your oath to the Great Life (god) in Mandaean tradition then someone comes since start of humanity and contradicts it. The story of John being in the wilderness while also being in Jerusalem also is non-sense, imagine someone surviving of honey and whatever they state in the bible. In fact, they don't know his full name, only we his followers know. John the baptist is a title which shows their lack of background knowledge about him and it's clearly a made up character that Doesn't resemble Prophet Yahya. Thanks.
Interesting new information on the Mandeans I hadn't heard anywhere else. I am also interested in how some Shia sects use John the Baptist and other more minor figures.
At 1:14:47 he does not know that in Luke 11:1-4 Jesus learned from John the prayer "Our Father....".1:22- Mk 1:5.9 directly attests that Jesus came as a sinner to be baptized! Who is against IT is a liar,i.e., from Satan (J8:44)! 1:27- he is right, Jesus never claimed to be a Messiah (read: AD 1901, William Wrede, Messianic Secret)
A question to all?? I’m Looking forward to an intelligent reply.?? Moved by lust at the sight of her, King David called for Bathsheba to be brought to him and slept with her. David committed adultery with a married woman called Bathsheba, wife of Uriah. what's more, David murdered Uriah by proxy by ordering all of Uriah's comrades to abandon him in the midst of battle, so that he ended up getting killed by an opposing army. The Prophet Nathan was sent by God and warned King David. well, Torah verses clearly say that both URIAH and DAVID Blessed by GOD. Well, the question is, if Uriah, David and Bathsheba go to heaven. To whom will Bathsheba be given? This question is ready to test the wisdom of all of you: The Bible [ Torah ]: God promised that God had already chosen all three humans for heaven: David, Uriah and Bathsheba. I’m Looking forward to an intelligent reply. Is Jesus a bastard? In the discussion Yosef Mizrachi said that he had proof to prove that Jesus had a biological father! But he has not yet made it public! Why?
Could "Q" not be a physical source at all, but rather a collective recollection of "wise sayings" commonly preached at the time? I keep thinking Jesus, John the Baptist, the Teacher of Light, are all the same 'school of thought' evolving through Hellenized Judaisim, which all draw from the Torah translations of the Hasmonean period.
And on another note, all of John's denials that he is any kind of returning figure ("I am not the messiah, I am not Elijah), makes me think the writer(s) wanted to refute anyone saying John the Baptist was the Christ. Which tells me there were competing cults. Then if the Jesus cult has Jesus baptized by John, with John acknowledging that Jesus is his successor and superior, this definitely feels like one cult trying to not just ride the coat-tails of another, but steal their entire coat.
I believe the theory that Q was an actual physical document is based on the common portions of Luke and Matthew being identical (or close to identical) in the earliest manuscripts, which points to the scribes using a common written source for their wording.
Could you discuss the "Noahide" laws ?? Without the law of God how did the the pharaoh know that he would get in trouble for sleeping with Abraham's wife ?? What are your beliefs in God's character
Some people called him Hermit of Engedi; and others said, He is the Wild Man of the Hills. But his greatest words were, Be not disturbed, you rulers of the state; the coming king is no antagonist; he seeks no place on any earthly throne. He comes the Prince of Peace, the king of righteousness and love; his kingdom is within the soul. The eyes of men shall see it not and none can enter but the pure in heart. Prepare, O Israel, prepare to meet your king. Then Jesus came to prove what John said. The kingdom is at hand.
There is a Umayyad coin that depicts John the Baptists head being held by the caliph, presumably Abdel Malik and a story about this, meaning the Umayyads were at the time Christian in Damascus, not Muslim, this fact gets erased under the Abbasids in the 8th century in Baghdad (ctesiphon)
My guess is from good intentions. Elders telling their tribes the importance of cleanliness. This of course goes for personal health but then is also extended to god/temple which plays a major role in all early tribes/civilization
Another excellent lecture. One quibble: Q isn’t necessarily settled scholarship. Duke’s Mark Goodacre makes an good argument that Luke simply copied Matthew. Other scholars refer to “sayings Matthew and Luke have in common” without positing a lost document. Maybe, maybe not.
I asked Bing AI for examples in the Old Testament where people wash, clean or bathe themselves or others. Exodus 19:14: The Lord instructed Moses to ask the people to consecrate themselves by washing their garments before the third day, when the Lord would come down on Mount Sinai in the sight of all the people 1. Exodus 40:12-15: Aaron and his sons were washed with water before they were anointed and consecrated as priests 1. Numbers 8:5-7: The Levites were cleansed by sprinkling purifying water on them, using a razor over their whole body, and washing their clothes 1. Leviticus 17:15: Any person who eats an animal which dies or is torn by beasts, whether he is a native or an alien, shall wash his clothes and bathe in water, and remain unclean until evening; then he will become clean 1. Leviticus 13:6: If a person has a skin infection, the priest shall look at him again on the seventh day, and if the infection has faded and the mark has not spread on the skin, then the priest shall pronounce him clean; it is only a scab. And he shall wash his clothes and be clean 1. Leviticus 15:16-18: If a man has a seminal emission, he shall bathe all his body in water and be unclean until evening. As for any garment or any leather on which there is seminal emission, it shall be washed with water and be unclean until evening. If a man lies with a woman so that there is a seminal emission, they shall both bathe in water and be unclean until evening 1.
Leviticus was mostly for physical cleanliness, to avoid spreading infections and diseases. You will see that it is mostly tied to not to spread plagues and viruses.
Hmm. I thought John the Revelator and John of the gospel were thought to be one and the same. I'll take your word on it. How about the Luke author and the book of Acts? Are they also not the same guy?
Luke was written by a man named Lucius, who was a companion of Luke's during the activities of Paul. This information was revealed by Edgar Cayce. Not sure if he revealed who wrote Acts, but it may have been the same person. John the Baptist was the Essene cousin of Jesus Christ, who was also born into the Essenes. The Bible tells you that John the Baptist was the same soul that had come as Elijah. And the Bible promises that Elijah shall return once again, in the so-called end times. And that would be Yours Truly. Want the secrets of this Universe, including the Meaning of Life? Click and ye shall find....
Indeed. These two souls have come together again and again in various incarnations. And John the Baptist was the Essene cousin of Jesus Christ, who was also born into the Essenes. The Bible tells you that John the Baptist was the same soul that had come as Elijah. And the Bible promises that Elijah shall return once again, in the so-called end times. And that would be Yours Truly. Want the secrets of this Universe, including the Meaning of Life? Click and ye shall find....
John the Baptist was a Prince of Heaven who volunteered along with many others to move to the lower Heavens, close to earth, to provide teaching and support for The King of Heaven's Mission of Redemption. He was a pure spirit who had not been tainted with involvement in events leading to "The Fall". He had earlier taken on the role of Elijah, God's prophet to the Tribes of Israel, and had returned to Heaven following that incarnation without having to undergo the normal process of dying. Following his execution as the Baptist he remained with Moses, another Prince and pure spirit, in the lower Heaven's to coordinate the events that would lead Jesus on His collision course with Satan - ruler of the world. Christians do not realise the significance behind the Transfiguration when Jesus received His final briefing in that historic face to face meeting with God, Elijah, and Moses in the company of His closest disciples.
This is the second video I've seen from this channel, which demonstrates a pattern of weak scholarship related to the Bible and early Christianity. Let's take the opening claim about the Greek used in Revelation being different than the Greek used in the Gospel According to St. John, and how they "prove" there are different authors of these texts. There's a simple reason for this, one that doesn't negate 2000 years of Christian tradition (and, in fact, is part of it): St. John used scribes. St. Prochorus recorded Revelation for him. Oral tradition is, itself, history. The Church knows who wrote its sacred texts. It didn't forget things of such vast importance. It remembered, accurately, things that aren't in the Bible (and were directed to do so, as it turns out, within the New Testament epistles). The Church knows, for example, the way various authors place themselves in the gospel narrative without using their own names (we see this in Luke and Mark, as well as in John). May you learn the Truth, friends...and believe it.
why the Mormon hocus pocus concerning John? what I think wasn't covered enough was the religious/social context..ie the Roman occupation of Israel and why God is allowing that to happen.
Installs into what? Control of what? There were a few dozen close-ish followers of Jesus. Control over a disparate and scattered rabble of largely impoverished and socially alienated outcasts is no valuable kingship.
For those just beginning to study the Bible beware. Some parts of his teachings are really good but his liberal interpretation of scripture is most apparent. I would argue that most biblical scholars would disagree with many of his teachings. His bias toward Christianity and orthodoxy/conservative scholarship is evident. It’s always good to listen to both liberal and conservative scholars and make up your own mind.
It might but just be me, But I have this awesome image of John being quite a Grizzly Character, Rough and Ready, formidable human being. Guy wandering around the wilderness of Judea preaching about repentance, remission of sin, The coming of the Kingdom eating wild honey and locusts 😂. Then one day Jesus shows up and then John turns, looks at him in the crowd and must of been thinking "It's Him that's him, God Wrapped in Flesh🫨🫨🫨" amazing. And it makes sense ofcourse it would be that man chosen, ofcourse it would be John.
I live in an area where Mormons outnumber all other religious faction. I know Joseph Smith was not counting on the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947. The scrolls that were found corroborate every jot & tittle of the current Cannon of Scripture. The Gospel of John 1:1 (KJV) describes the Deity of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. John 3:16 describes Jesus as God’s ONLY begotten Son. John 3:7 (KJV) describes we must be “Born Again” to enter into Heaven. Ephesians 2:8&9(KJV) states that it is by God’s Grace that we are saved through Faith, not of ourselves, it’s a gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. Jesus ransomed anyone who would humble themselves, repent of their sins & the sin nature & place their full trust in what Jesus did by shedding His unblemished blood on that Roman cross. We can earn rewards for Heaven but we cannot earn our place in Heaven. There were two thieves crucified with Messiah, one mocked Christ and the other on His right humbled himself and asked to be remembered in His Kingdom. Jesus told him that: “today, you will be with me in Paradise. The repentant thief was Saved & the mocking thief was lost for eternity. The believing thief was not baptized, join a denomination, have a position on eschatology, do any good works, etc., etc. he simply believed. I secured my reservation in Heaven on June 27, 1960 @ 7:30 pm. I simply placed my life in Messiah’s hands to protect and to guide me during the remainder of this physical life & in Heaven for eternity. I am totally secure & fearless about my future. Our pride is anathema to Jehovah & will keep most well meaning people out of Heaven by thinking they can please God through their own efforts. “There is a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof is destruction. I pray that God will open your eyes to the one & only Way, Truth and Life. The Cannon of scripture is being validated every day by archeological finds, literally fulfilled prophecies & the paradigm change in me and hundreds of millions of others. Maranatha!
"GOD our savior...will have all men to be saved and come unto knowledge of the truth." 1Timothy 2:3-4 When GOD says "good news," GOD means GOOD NEWS! "The Kingdom of GOD is within you." "Is it not written in your law, 'I have said ye are gods'?" Jesus came to remind us who we are; not to die for anyone's "sins"! "Spirit gives life, the flesh counts for nothing." I came as Elijah, John the Baptist, and now I am the prophesied end-time return of Elijah, who is spoken of in Revelation Chapter 11 and known as "the two witnesses," come to clarify the GOOD NEWS once gain. It will be some time before I am empowered. And I communicate only through my site. So, if you want the secrets of this Universe, including The Meaning of Life, give my icon a click.
The message of Christ calls us to walk in the SPIRIT instead of the flesh. This is essential to Christ's teachings. Yeshua is the WORD become flesh for our benefit. To bring us back to YAHH. SPIRITUAL PURITY. WUNA. THAT'S WHAT IS AT STAKE HERE. Adam a man of flesh is created to walk in YAHH's Spirit. But man went after the ways of the flesh seeking material gains. And thinks they can improve on YAHH's creation, by progress and advancements thru technologies, making man more and more dependant on them which forever leads man more and more away from the perfections of YAHH's creation. In fact they even lead to the destruction of YAHH's creations. A truly blasphemous life styles. When we accept Christ in our hearts with all his commandments walking in this Spirit we will receive the treasures of YAHH's LOVE. When man gets back to GOD frequency in harmony with YAHH he can have all the clean life that is rooted in purity. A return to true and PURE SANITY. Free from falsehoods of Satan and all his demonic influences. That using the natural world to put fear in men's hearts disguising themselves as deities over the powers of nature. Corrupting the natural world and the true reality of man's very nature.
_"The message of Christ..."_ “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters - yes, even his own life - he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26-27) “No one can become my disciple unless you give up all of your possessions." (Luke 14:33)
A question to all?? I’m Looking forward to an intelligent reply.?? Moved by lust at the sight of her, King David called for Bathsheba to be brought to him and slept with her. David committed adultery with a married woman called Bathsheba, wife of Uriah. what's more, David murdered Uriah by proxy by ordering all of Uriah's comrades to abandon him in the midst of battle, so that he ended up getting killed by an opposing army. The Prophet Nathan was sent by God and warned King David. well, Torah verses clearly say that both URIAH and DAVID Blessed by GOD. Well, the question is, if Uriah, David and Bathsheba go to heaven. To whom will Bathsheba be given? This question is ready to test the wisdom of all of you: The Bible [ Torah ]: God promised that God had already chosen all three humans for heaven: David, Uriah and Bathsheba. I’m Looking forward to an intelligent reply. Is Jesus a bastard? In the discussion Yosef Mizrachi said that he had proof to prove that Jesus had a biological father! But he has not yet made it public! Why?
John the Baptist lived in the wilderness...he knew his environment....!...I wonder if John lead Jesus into the wilderness.....!....I can imagine he made Jesus aware of the gambling at the temple..since Jesus might have passed the temple many times or knew what was going on...!....Jesus came back angry and radical .... upsetting the religious leaders who were more interested in not changing the status quo ...!
John almost certainly would have had very very large dreadlocks similar to Samson who had seven locks of hair. You try never cutting your hair and living in the wilderness without getting massive dreadlocks especially 2000 years ago when a comb probably cost a pretty penny
A question to all?? I’m Looking forward to an intelligent reply.?? Moved by lust at the sight of her, King David called for Bathsheba to be brought to him and slept with her. David committed adultery with a married woman called Bathsheba, wife of Uriah. what's more, David murdered Uriah by proxy by ordering all of Uriah's comrades to abandon him in the midst of battle, so that he ended up getting killed by an opposing army. The Prophet Nathan was sent by God and warned King David. well, Torah verses clearly say that both URIAH and DAVID Blessed by GOD. Well, the question is, if Uriah, David and Bathsheba go to heaven. To whom will Bathsheba be given? This question is ready to test the wisdom of all of you: The Bible [ Torah ]: God promised that God had already chosen all three humans for heaven: David, Uriah and Bathsheba. I’m Looking forward to an intelligent reply. Is Jesus a bastard? In the discussion Yosef Mizrachi said that he had proof to prove that Jesus had a biological father! But he has not yet made it public! Why?
No wonder the word of God has become so twisted, the Lord expects us “believe by faith” his breath as his word was the breath that inspired the writers of his word, f u don’t know the history and the customs of the time, u can’t understand everything in the Bible, “by faith”. The Bible was finished in the generation after the crusifiction “ sorry I can’t spell” chathlic church 300 yrs after, allah and the muslins 700yrs after, splits and cults up to today, and all the people who spread the false teachings of today.
John, Jesus and Judas represent a sort of Trinity is early mistic Christian writings to represent a man before the spirit of god joins him, after they join in Jesus and after the Holy Spirit departs Jesus he becomes judas dying a second death on the cross.
John the Baptist was the half cousin of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Elizabeth was Mary’s full cousin. John’s mother was too old to conceive normally but YAHWEH allowed her to conceive and deliver John the Baptizer. When the religious leaders asked him if he was the Messiah, he was not the Messiah but he answered: “I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, make way for the “Lamb of God” who takes away the sins of the world, whose shoes, I am not worthy to untie. Eve was deceived in the Garden but Adam was not. YAHWEH held Adam responsible for the rebellion against The Creator of all things and passing on the sin nature we are born with. Anyone who does not reach an age of accountability will immediately be in God’s presence when their heart stops beating. Any person who reaches an age of accountability and refuses YAHWEH’s free gift of redemption, will be cast into the “Lake of Fire” that burns forever and ever & the worm doesn’t die. We can be religious and not Saved “Born once, die twice, born twice, die once.”
"Unless ye become as little children..." Ready to go beyond speculation and allow GOD Itself to give you the answers, as I have done? John the Baptist was the Essene cousin of Jesus Christ, who was also born into the Essenes. The Bible tells you that John the Baptist was the same soul that had come as Elijah. And the Bible promises that Elijah shall return once again, in the so-called end times. And that would be Yours Truly. Want the secrets of this Universe, including the Meaning of Life? Click and ye shall find....
Wow, you never get around to answer your title question. Instead of spinning your wheels in fictional stories, why not look to reality -- for real answers? Theudas the Galilean sure matches a lot of key elements about the John the Baptizer character in the christian stories.
So you want him to focus on facts (which he does) and then suggests he talk about some theory you pulled directly out of thin air? Come on get serious.
Who was John the Baptist? The Essene cousin of Jesus Christ, who was also born into the Essenes. The Bible tells you that John the Baptist was the same soul that had come as Elijah. And the Bible promises that Elijah shall return once again, in the so-called end times. And that would be Yours Truly. Want the secrets of this Universe, including the Meaning of Life? Click and ye shall find....
John prepared the way for the Holy Spirit per Isaiah 40:3 not another prophet after him. He was the greatest prophet born among women and part of the first fruits resurrection or NEW BIRTH. He received his NEW name at the Jordan, Phillipians 2:9-10 the same new name all elect sons receive. Rev. 3:12.
Which Jesus in history are you talking about ? THIS will help us understand your lectures. No historical Jesus matches your story. No one walked on water ,or immediately changed water into wine
John the Baptist at locust bean cakes with honey, not locusts the insects. "New Testament" authors smeared him as a type of bug eating weirdo because they saw him as a threat and murdered and lied about anyone who threatened their power, including the teacher of Yeshua.
Locusts are symbolism for demon spirits. Eating the flesh of Jesus is consuming the Word of God, the Holy Bible. Eating locusts is consuming doctrines of demons.
We Muslims love the Holy Spirit, the Beloved of God, Jesus, and we love Elijah the Prophet, Abraham, Noah, Joseph, and Zakariya, and our hearts weep for John the Baptist, the betrayed Messenger of God.
His exercise of Caesar, Augustus of the cloth and a cloud of each after the brows of my yolk over the letters of the people tribulations of a good man with the Hebrew and the trust is where I have the privilege to be remitted for the first Ireland and I am from the place that was made for a bit of Carnigy as the last one that came from my open door if any of the Israelites of the note from the Romans and the Augusta, Georgia blind man with a circle around David's daughter named Jude the City of Roem and Ezra.
Nero Julius Ceasar, the 'favorite' son of Germanicus (Zebedee, who dwells with god) 'twin' sons, ; the dioscuri or Nicolaitans (beloved of the people). Germanicus was a notoirious deceiver, pander and heir of ceasar (Tiberiius Julius Abdes Pantera Sidonia) aka Pandera. Germanicus 'twin' was send in exile (prisoned and martyred) at the island of Pandateria (land of the banned or bandits), Gadara Dalmathua. The brothers name is Drusus (andreas, andrew) J.C. nicknamed James the Less-er. Germanicus is also the father of Aggrippina minor (the blessed Lady) and the granddad of Neres (chrestus). The 'gens' or clan aka 'the scattered elect (-s-ed) far of abroad' what compares with the fallen angels or boanerges, walkures.
There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that even a single Templar converted to any kind of Mandaeanism. There are many stories about the Templars most of them either false or grossly misconstrued.
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Once again, thank you for making these wonderful lectures freely available to the public. Great work!
Always excited to rewatch these lecture videos 1x a day for 1 week straight
This lecture series is the best UA-cam discovery I have made this year. Last year’s lucky find:Terrence McKenna!
Check out Jesse Michels …Are Mushrooms Aliens? You will enjoy this video on UA-cam. He actually has many great videos I just discovered a week ago. 👍
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Believe it or not this is a reformed mormon community. They were originally formed as an early offshoot of the LDS church.
John Hamer and Terrence McKenna is a potent combo
Terrence is fun speculation (check out Rupert Sheldrake too). This place is legit.
Who was John the Baptist? The Essene cousin of Jesus Christ, who was also born into the Essenes. The Bible tells you that John the Baptist was the same soul that had come as Elijah. And the Bible promises that Elijah shall return once again, in the so-called end times. And that would be Yours Truly. Want the secrets of this Universe, including the Meaning of Life? Click and ye shall find....
WHAT A BRILLIANT INTELLECT, HISTORIAN, AND PHENOMENAL MEMORY FOR INSTANT RECALL.. I WISH THAT I HAD A PROFESSOR LIKE YOU IN UNIVERSITY.
Wish you were a better student.
Why are you yelling?
John Baptist needs more love by historians
John was History’s second street teamer for Jesus with Elijah being the OG.
What? He gets a lot of attention by religious historians, especially Christianity and Islamic historians. Now for non religious historians, what are you expecting? He has no pertinence anywhere outside of theological circles. Vegans of today would love him though because of his diet and weak arms.
@@Bravo-Too-Much oh come on. That wasn't ALL he ate. Just that he had a reputation for being a honey eater
We Muslims love the Holy Spirit, the Beloved of God, Jesus, and we love Elijah the Prophet, Abraham, Noah, Joseph, and Zakariya, and our hearts weep for John the Baptist, the betrayed Messenger of God. 😢
What's needed is more dedication to accurate and in depth research into the migrations, enslavement and heritage theft of Hebrew peoples. Love has absolutely nothing to do with Truth.
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I.have no religious faith but am.fascinated by something that has had such an impact on the world. As a keen amateur historian I have further interest in tyr the subject too. I enjoy these detailed lectures very much.
I was the same. Keep seeking Him, and He will find you. God bless.
I was a believer and wanted to know more about my faith. So I began reading the critical scholarship pertaining to the Bible and ended up reading myself out of Christianity. My interest in the Biblical scholarship, however, has remained.
I had a comment but then I forgot. So I'll just say thank you
Thank you for all your unbiased scholarship!
Great to see your usual standard of scholarly excellence has resumed.
The execution of John the Baptist is a severe INJUSTICE. Thank you. Outstanding seminar.💯
Love your lectures John, you have such a soft docile timbre I thought these would be great lectures to fall asleep to, kinda like when I was religious and my parents would tell me bible stories to fall asleep to, but you are so interesting I just want to keep listening, its a great example of excellent background research combined with critical thinking, presented in a very amicable way and not taking a side but presenting the evidence at hand - really appreciate your ideas and how professionally you present everything, great job!
I enjoyed this interesting program. Thank you. Richard in Dallas
very interesting. and no added music - WONDERFULL :)
There are a lot of channels on UA-cam I won’t watch because of them putting music behind their narrative or commentary. Not only is it distracting, but I don’t need someone trying to manipulate my emotions about what they’re saying.
I liked this video about John much more than other videos I have watched about him It was much more informative and much less preachy! 😇😎😉
Really loving this channel ❤
I'm using this video for a confermation Assignment, so this is really neat
Hi, good to see you here. It happened automatically while I search for John the baptist food. From Sri Lanka
So , are you ,John ,a Christian ,or a believer in Christ ?? I think it's important for us fans of yours. We love your subjects and lectures they're very informative and fills in a lot of
He’s a Christian and a pastor for the church that’s shares the name of this channel.
It's not important, what's important is the degree of truth and certainty in his lectures. Him being a Christian is equally as important as him being a Lakers fan, as long as he's unbiased.
@@Bravo-Too-MuchBrilliant symposiums are found on this channel and I subbed as soon as I discovered it. Thank you.💯👍👏
John has expressed frustration elsewhere with the tendency of evangelical churches to portray scripture as literal, inerrant and God breathed. I've pondered what conclusions one might reach if they did not believe that God had his hand on the writing of the scriptures . I think such a person would likely view Christ as more of an idea or ideal as opposed to a deity with whom to have a relationship. Like, you could determine what is true righteousness by studying what humans imagined God should be as opposed to those who say, "there is no God so I'll do what I want." or those who imply that only their interpretation is correct and all else is haresy.
How John the Baptist fits into the broader history around development of Christianity and indeed the broader Abrahamic tradition is really interesting and the mysterious background of the Mandaeans just adds an extra layer that can’t help but get my mind going. As said in this video and others on the channel, it’s impossible to prove whether the Mandaeans truly do go back to John the Baptist, but a couple of things can’t help but stand out to me when wondering about.
1) An austere lifestyle often comes hand in hand with cosmological dualism. Variations on the phenomenon also famously manifested within Jainism and Manichaeism. The notion that the temptations or creature comforts of the material world is evil in some sense naturally lends itself to the idea that the material world at base is evil and something totally apart from the spiritual realm of light. Alternatively, maybe that’s an explanation you might think of to justify the practice afterward. Or it could have motivated by the need for a new direction after the loss of their leader. The point being that the asceticism of John’s movement might have over time given way to Mandaean dualism. John himself wouldn’t have necessarily had to be the one preaching it for it to appear among his followers anymore than it did amongst those in the congregations of Proto-Orthodox Christians.
2) However, if Jesus did take a number of John’s followers with when he started his own ministry and they did bring either Mandaean or Proto-Mandaean concepts along with them, then that could explain why Gnosticism was such a prevalent heretical movement throughout the early church communities. Mandeaeism tends to get classified as a species of Gnosticism due to the amount of overlap. The aforementioned dualistic outlook, a tenuous relationship with the Hebrew Bible, some level of practicing self-denial involved, etc. When it comes to groups who play their cards so close to the chest like the ones in question, it can be hard to know for sure all their most important beliefs. A critical difference of course was that the Gnostics fully embraced the idea that Jesus is the Messiah while the Mandaeans regardless of wherever their origins lie reject him as a false prophet alongside Abraham and Moses.
3) And thus it is also notable that the Gnostics weren’t the only distinctive religious group outside mainline Christianity to accept Jesus as an honored figure. Newer full-blown ancient religions including Manichaeism, Islam and Druzism all adopted him into their story even if they had had different understandings of him than Christians. Specifically, the fact that they viewed him as a prophet rather than the divine son of God. The Mandaeans stand out as a faith connected to the Abrahamic religions many think came after Christianity that didn’t even accept Jesus on those terms. It can’t help but raise the question as to why that might have been the case despite the wider pattern. He was a popular and widely respected figure in their world many claimed as their own which could indicate an established loyalty to John’s movement which preceded the rise of Jesus’ own into what looks like a rival.
Naturally, that’s all just me speculating. It’s perhaps even downright fanciful and can have holes poked in it by those who know more about these subjects than I do. But these are the thoughts that came to me about the topic at hand based upon what I know now and I might as well leave them here. These lectures and the discussions alongside them are just great food for thought in general.
Mandaeans dislike Jesus. Call him a false prophet.
@@busterbiloxi3833 That’s true. I didn’t say anything to the contrary.
The beauty of Jesus mission on 🌎🌍 earth, was Jesus revealed the true nature of divine God.
Whereas, John the Baptist was a product of his environment and the biblical history that preceded him. However, credit to John, for realizing (but maybe not fully) the potential of Jesus mission.
Ready to go beyond speculation? John the Baptist was the Essene cousin of Jesus Christ, who was also born into the Essenes. The Bible tells you that John the Baptist was the same soul that had come as Elijah. And the Bible promises that Elijah shall return once again, in the so-called end times. And that would be Yours Truly. Want the secrets of this Universe, including the Meaning of Life? Click and ye shall find....
@@steveflorida8699 You're a dope.
Good work.many thanks
Josephus' words "... not in order to the putting away of some sins, but for the purification of the body; supposing still that the soul was thoroughly purified beforehand by righteousness" seem to me to indicate that, in John's eyes, the ritual of baptism was specifically _not_ for the remission of sin, but only for the purification of the body, and would only be efficacious if the soul had already been purified or was pure or whatever.
This seems to directly contradict the lecturer's characterization at 14:19 the John "[c]alled upon people to practice baptism _for_ _the_ _remission_ of some sins". Not only that, John's idea of baptism as described by Josephus directly contradicts what I understand as church tradition, ie, that baptism purifies the soul and not the body. Given the early church's penchant for syncretizing any belief system with a sizable following, no matter how seemingly contradictory, and given Josephus' failure to mention what should have been a famous meeting between two leaders, it seems likely to me that the alleged baptism of Jesus by John is entirely apocryphal.
1:14:30 you may have missed something in the gospel of Luke. In that version of the Lord's prayer, the disciples ask Jesus to tell them how to pray as John did and he responds with this prayer.
Also, I have to disagree when you say it fits with Jesus' ministry more than John's. The Lord's prayer has nothing about vicarious atonement or sacrifice. Rather it is about reciprocal forgiveness, and avoiding temptation, which seems to fit better with the idea of remitting sins and upholding acts of the law.
"Thy kingdom come" is also very Lukan, but nothing like the heavenly afterlife from other quarters of christianity. It fits great with the essences, though, who seem to have believed that when the people are pure enough, God's army will come to earth to fight against the Romans. This all seems to fit perfectly with what we can piece together about John.
Even the daily bread in the wilderness should immediately remind you of manna in the torah.
The mysterious identity of Jack the Dipper...
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John, while you are recovering,
a little task for you!!!
Can you put to rest the question:
WHEN DID THE PHILISTINES ARRIVE IN CANAAN?
1. We have Abraham living among them for a while.
2. Then Isaac sojourned with them.
3. God warned the Israelites away from them in the Exodus.
4.Then we are told that they arrived with the Sea People!!!
Please bring some clarity to this situation.
Jesus is love. John 3,16 ,,,, GB you all
can you also post the transcript of the video?
"i baptized God. What did you do?" - John
Us atheist killed god! Even Chuck Norris can't say that :-)
@@lunarmodule6419wrong, you believe you did.
“Lord, teach us to pray, just as John taught his disciples.” Luke 11
Jesus then recites a version of the Lord's Prayer, which is shorter and less elaborate than the version in Matthew, which scholars often argue means it is likely an earlier version.
It omits 'thy kingdom come', which you quote as an illustration of why it is a more Jesussy prayer than a Johnny one.
Luke is the only source I'm aware of that credits John the Baptist as the origin of the Lord's Prayer, but it seems an odd detail for Luke to add, it seems more likely that Matthew would remove this detail than Luke invent it.
On reflection this is a pretty significant detail - it backs up the hypothesis that Jesus was a disciple of John and that some of John's former disciples later followed Jesus - if Jesus wasn't a follower of John why would he be considered an authority on how John would pray ? And if the questioner wasn't formerly a disciples of John, why would he ask Jesus how to pray like John ? Any why would Luke include this detail, unless it was in whatever earlier source he was drawing on, or it was still common knowledge at the time that this prayer was attributed to the John The Baptiser
He is back, preparing the way for the son of God. Just as before, and before that.
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@@Jaybee6428 And when the son of God reveals himself, this world will come to an end. Amen.
@@dubsar are you not?
So, I never thought about this until now, but if Jesus had never sinned, why would he need to be baptised for the remission of sin?
Jesus did it to be an example for his followers.
Matthew 3:15 (KJV)
"And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him."
Basically telling us that being Baptized by John the Baptist is the right thing to do. Tells us that only John the Baptist has this authority during their time to baptize. Baptism is to be identified with the Lord Jesus Christ.
I don't know what do you think :)? Perfect logic. Baptism is to cleanse yourself and renew your oath to the Great Life (god) in Mandaean tradition then someone comes since start of humanity and contradicts it. The story of John being in the wilderness while also being in Jerusalem also is non-sense, imagine someone surviving of honey and whatever they state in the bible. In fact, they don't know his full name, only we his followers know. John the baptist is a title which shows their lack of background knowledge about him and it's clearly a made up character that Doesn't resemble Prophet Yahya. Thanks.
Just learned recently that John the Baptist is my ancestor. That's why I'm here.
How would you have learned this?
Interesting new information on the Mandeans I hadn't heard anywhere else. I am also interested in how some Shia sects use John the Baptist and other more minor figures.
At 1:14:47 he does not know that in Luke 11:1-4 Jesus learned from John the prayer "Our Father....".1:22- Mk 1:5.9 directly attests that Jesus came as a sinner to be baptized! Who is against IT is a liar,i.e., from Satan (J8:44)! 1:27- he is right, Jesus never claimed to be a Messiah (read: AD 1901, William Wrede, Messianic Secret)
The locust should be the fruits of the carob tree which grows wild in the eastern meditterranean. Smelly but very sweet dry fruit.
A question to all?? I’m Looking forward to an intelligent reply.?? Moved by lust at the sight of her, King David called for Bathsheba to be brought to him and slept with her. David committed adultery with a married woman called Bathsheba, wife of Uriah. what's more, David murdered Uriah by proxy by ordering all of Uriah's comrades to abandon him in the midst of battle, so that he ended up getting killed by an opposing army. The Prophet Nathan was sent by God and warned King David. well, Torah verses clearly say that both URIAH and DAVID Blessed by GOD.
Well, the question is, if Uriah, David and Bathsheba go to heaven. To whom will Bathsheba be given? This question is ready to test the wisdom of all of you: The Bible [ Torah ]: God promised that God had already chosen all three humans for heaven: David, Uriah and Bathsheba. I’m Looking forward to an intelligent reply.
Is Jesus a bastard? In the discussion Yosef Mizrachi said that he had proof to prove that Jesus had a biological father! But he has not yet made it public! Why?
Who was Dositheos? Who was Simon Magus?
Could "Q" not be a physical source at all, but rather a collective recollection of "wise sayings" commonly preached at the time? I keep thinking Jesus, John the Baptist, the Teacher of Light, are all the same 'school of thought' evolving through Hellenized Judaisim, which all draw from the Torah translations of the Hasmonean period.
And on another note, all of John's denials that he is any kind of returning figure ("I am not the messiah, I am not Elijah), makes me think the writer(s) wanted to refute anyone saying John the Baptist was the Christ. Which tells me there were competing cults. Then if the Jesus cult has Jesus baptized by John, with John acknowledging that Jesus is his successor and superior, this definitely feels like one cult trying to not just ride the coat-tails of another, but steal their entire coat.
I believe the theory that Q was an actual physical document is based on the common portions of Luke and Matthew being identical (or close to identical) in the earliest manuscripts, which points to the scribes using a common written source for their wording.
Was Mikveh washing just for women or men also?
Could you discuss the "Noahide" laws ?? Without the law of God how did the the pharaoh know that he would get in trouble for sleeping with Abraham's wife ?? What are your beliefs in God's character
Some people called him Hermit of Engedi; and others said, He is the Wild Man of the Hills. But his greatest words were, Be not disturbed, you rulers of the state; the coming king is no antagonist; he seeks no place on any earthly throne. He comes the Prince of Peace, the king of righteousness and love; his kingdom is within the soul. The eyes of men shall see it not and none can enter but the pure in heart. Prepare, O Israel, prepare to meet your king. Then Jesus came to prove what John said. The kingdom is at hand.
There is a Umayyad coin that depicts John the Baptists head being held by the caliph, presumably Abdel Malik and a story about this, meaning the Umayyads were at the time Christian in Damascus, not Muslim, this fact gets erased under the Abbasids in the 8th century in Baghdad (ctesiphon)
where does the idea of living a clean life originate? requiring ongoing ritual cleansing etc?
My guess is from good intentions. Elders telling their tribes the importance of cleanliness. This of course goes for personal health but then is also extended to god/temple which plays a major role in all early tribes/civilization
Another excellent lecture.
One quibble: Q isn’t necessarily settled scholarship. Duke’s Mark Goodacre makes an good argument that Luke simply copied Matthew. Other scholars refer to “sayings Matthew and Luke have in common” without positing a lost document. Maybe, maybe not.
Who was Craig the plumber and why didn't he come yesterday ?
Who is elijah
I asked Bing AI for examples in the Old Testament where people wash, clean or bathe themselves or others.
Exodus 19:14: The Lord instructed Moses to ask the people to consecrate themselves by washing their garments before the third day, when the Lord would come down on Mount Sinai in the sight of all the people 1.
Exodus 40:12-15: Aaron and his sons were washed with water before they were anointed and consecrated as priests 1.
Numbers 8:5-7: The Levites were cleansed by sprinkling purifying water on them, using a razor over their whole body, and washing their clothes 1.
Leviticus 17:15: Any person who eats an animal which dies or is torn by beasts, whether he is a native or an alien, shall wash his clothes and bathe in water, and remain unclean until evening; then he will become clean 1.
Leviticus 13:6: If a person has a skin infection, the priest shall look at him again on the seventh day, and if the infection has faded and the mark has not spread on the skin, then the priest shall pronounce him clean; it is only a scab. And he shall wash his clothes and be clean 1.
Leviticus 15:16-18: If a man has a seminal emission, he shall bathe all his body in water and be unclean until evening. As for any garment or any leather on which there is seminal emission, it shall be washed with water and be unclean until evening. If a man lies with a woman so that there is a seminal emission, they shall both bathe in water and be unclean until evening 1.
Leviticus was mostly for physical cleanliness, to avoid spreading infections and diseases. You will see that it is mostly tied to not to spread plagues and viruses.
Hmm. I thought John the Revelator and John of the gospel were thought to be one and the same. I'll take your word on it. How about the Luke author and the book of Acts? Are they also not the same guy?
Luke was written by a man named Lucius, who was a companion of Luke's during the activities of Paul. This information was revealed by Edgar Cayce. Not sure if he revealed who wrote Acts, but it may have been the same person.
John the Baptist was the Essene cousin of Jesus Christ, who was also born into the Essenes. The Bible tells you that John the Baptist was the same soul that had come as Elijah. And the Bible promises that Elijah shall return once again, in the so-called end times. And that would be Yours Truly.
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Why do you have prideflag in your logo for june. This is a christian channel i though
Isn't there any secular history on John the Baptist not just the bible?
Starting @ 9:38 there is a discussion of the historian Josephus.
Who was jonhn to Jesus?
Jesus' relationship with Jesus must have been pretty intimate.
Yes, he really was in love with himself.
Indeed. These two souls have come together again and again in various incarnations. And John the Baptist was the Essene cousin of Jesus Christ, who was also born into the Essenes. The Bible tells you that John the Baptist was the same soul that had come as Elijah. And the Bible promises that Elijah shall return once again, in the so-called end times. And that would be Yours Truly. Want the secrets of this Universe, including the Meaning of Life? Click and ye shall find....
@@tomrhodes1629 I lost it at 'yours truly' 😂😂😂
@@tomrhodes1629the John the Baptist / Elias of the end times is the False Prophet who is also the final Antichrist king
John the Baptist was a Prince of Heaven who volunteered along with many others to move to the lower Heavens, close to earth, to provide teaching and support for The King of Heaven's Mission of Redemption. He was a pure spirit who had not been tainted with involvement in events leading to "The Fall". He had earlier taken on the role of Elijah, God's prophet to the Tribes of Israel, and had returned to Heaven following that incarnation without having to undergo the normal process of dying. Following his execution as the Baptist he remained with Moses, another Prince and pure spirit, in the lower Heaven's to coordinate the events that would lead Jesus on His collision course with Satan - ruler of the world. Christians do not realise the significance behind the Transfiguration when Jesus received His final briefing in that historic face to face meeting with God, Elijah, and Moses in the company of His closest disciples.
This is the second video I've seen from this channel, which demonstrates a pattern of weak scholarship related to the Bible and early Christianity.
Let's take the opening claim about the Greek used in Revelation being different than the Greek used in the Gospel According to St. John, and how they "prove" there are different authors of these texts. There's a simple reason for this, one that doesn't negate 2000 years of Christian tradition (and, in fact, is part of it): St. John used scribes. St. Prochorus recorded Revelation for him.
Oral tradition is, itself, history. The Church knows who wrote its sacred texts. It didn't forget things of such vast importance. It remembered, accurately, things that aren't in the Bible (and were directed to do so, as it turns out, within the New Testament epistles). The Church knows, for example, the way various authors place themselves in the gospel narrative without using their own names (we see this in Luke and Mark, as well as in John).
May you learn the Truth, friends...and believe it.
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why the Mormon hocus pocus concerning John?
what I think wasn't covered enough was the religious/social context..ie the Roman occupation of Israel and why God is allowing that to happen.
God grants humans Free Will. Humans have to take responsibility for their actions towards fellow human beings. God is willing to guide us.
john was one of the first marketing geniuses. he talks about Jesus, which he later installs and possibly controls.
Installs into what? Control of what? There were a few dozen close-ish followers of Jesus. Control over a disparate and scattered rabble of largely impoverished and socially alienated outcasts is no valuable kingship.
For those just beginning to study the Bible beware. Some parts of his teachings are really good but his liberal interpretation of scripture is most apparent. I would argue that most biblical scholars would disagree with many of his teachings.
His bias toward Christianity and orthodoxy/conservative scholarship is evident.
It’s always good to listen to both liberal and conservative scholars and make up your own mind.
"Locusts" are the locust bean, not the bug.
It might but just be me, But I have this awesome image of John being quite a Grizzly Character, Rough and Ready, formidable human being.
Guy wandering around the wilderness of Judea preaching about repentance, remission of sin, The coming of the Kingdom eating wild honey and locusts 😂.
Then one day Jesus shows up and then John turns, looks at him in the crowd and must of been thinking "It's Him that's him, God Wrapped in Flesh🫨🫨🫨" amazing.
And it makes sense ofcourse it would be that man chosen, ofcourse it would be John.
"John comes first" is, what we Johns, we spoilt brats, very much like to hear.
I live in an area where Mormons outnumber all other religious faction.
I know Joseph Smith was not counting on the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947. The scrolls that were found corroborate every jot & tittle of the current Cannon of Scripture.
The Gospel of John 1:1 (KJV) describes the Deity of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. John 3:16 describes Jesus as God’s ONLY begotten Son. John 3:7 (KJV) describes we must be “Born Again” to enter into Heaven. Ephesians 2:8&9(KJV) states that it is by God’s Grace that we are saved through Faith, not of ourselves, it’s a gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Jesus ransomed anyone who would humble themselves, repent of their sins & the sin nature & place their full trust in what Jesus did by shedding His unblemished blood on that Roman cross. We can earn rewards for Heaven but we cannot earn our place in Heaven.
There were two thieves crucified with Messiah, one mocked Christ and the other on His right humbled himself and asked to be remembered in His Kingdom. Jesus told him that: “today, you will be with me in Paradise. The repentant thief was Saved & the mocking thief was lost for eternity. The believing thief was not baptized, join a denomination, have a position on eschatology, do any good works, etc., etc. he simply believed.
I secured my reservation in Heaven on June 27, 1960 @ 7:30 pm. I simply placed my life in Messiah’s hands to protect and to guide me during the remainder of this physical life & in Heaven for eternity. I am totally secure & fearless about my future.
Our pride is anathema to Jehovah & will keep most well meaning people out of Heaven by thinking they can please God through their own efforts.
“There is a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof is destruction.
I pray that God will open your eyes to the one & only Way, Truth and Life.
The Cannon of scripture is being validated every day by archeological finds, literally fulfilled prophecies & the paradigm change in me and hundreds of millions of others.
Maranatha!
"GOD our savior...will have all men to be saved and come unto knowledge of the truth." 1Timothy 2:3-4
When GOD says "good news," GOD means GOOD NEWS!
"The Kingdom of GOD is within you." "Is it not written in your law, 'I have said ye are gods'?"
Jesus came to remind us who we are; not to die for anyone's "sins"!
"Spirit gives life, the flesh counts for nothing."
I came as Elijah, John the Baptist, and now I am the prophesied end-time return of Elijah, who is spoken of in Revelation Chapter 11 and known as "the two witnesses," come to clarify the GOOD NEWS once gain.
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Great content.
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The message of Christ calls us to walk in the SPIRIT instead of the flesh. This is essential to Christ's teachings. Yeshua is the WORD become flesh for our benefit. To bring us back to YAHH. SPIRITUAL PURITY. WUNA. THAT'S WHAT IS AT STAKE HERE. Adam a man of flesh is created to walk in YAHH's Spirit. But man went after the ways of the flesh seeking material gains. And thinks they can improve on YAHH's creation, by progress and advancements thru technologies, making man more and more dependant on them which forever leads man more and more away from the perfections of YAHH's creation. In fact they even lead to the destruction of YAHH's creations. A truly blasphemous life styles. When we accept Christ in our hearts with all his commandments walking in this Spirit we will receive the treasures of YAHH's LOVE. When man gets back to GOD frequency in harmony with YAHH he can have all the clean life that is rooted in purity. A return to true and PURE SANITY. Free from falsehoods of Satan and all his demonic influences. That using the natural world to put fear in men's hearts disguising themselves as deities over the powers of nature. Corrupting the natural world and the true reality of man's very nature.
_"The message of Christ..."_
“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters - yes, even his own life - he cannot be my disciple."
(Luke 14:26-27)
“No one can become my disciple unless you give up all of your possessions."
(Luke 14:33)
According to josephus the baptism practiced by jhon the baptist was only for the purification of the body not for the forgiveness of sins
It was for repentance from unbelief and sins
What's up with the sun god behind you
Είχε Πέρα και η Ιουδαία! Απίστευτο
A question to all?? I’m Looking forward to an intelligent reply.?? Moved by lust at the sight of her, King David called for Bathsheba to be brought to him and slept with her. David committed adultery with a married woman called Bathsheba, wife of Uriah. what's more, David murdered Uriah by proxy by ordering all of Uriah's comrades to abandon him in the midst of battle, so that he ended up getting killed by an opposing army. The Prophet Nathan was sent by God and warned King David. well, Torah verses clearly say that both URIAH and DAVID Blessed by GOD.
Well, the question is, if Uriah, David and Bathsheba go to heaven. To whom will Bathsheba be given? This question is ready to test the wisdom of all of you: The Bible [ Torah ]: God promised that God had already chosen all three humans for heaven: David, Uriah and Bathsheba. I’m Looking forward to an intelligent reply.
Is Jesus a bastard? In the discussion Yosef Mizrachi said that he had proof to prove that Jesus had a biological father! But he has not yet made it public! Why?
Not to be confused with John the piper‘s son 😅
The Essenes were the first christians. Called themselves "the way" and predicted the messiah would come around 30ad
The Essenes where never Christian and never considered themselves such.
John the Baptist lived in the wilderness...he knew his environment....!...I wonder if John lead Jesus into the wilderness.....!....I can imagine he made Jesus aware of the gambling at the temple..since Jesus might have passed the temple many times or knew what was going on...!....Jesus came back angry and radical .... upsetting the religious leaders who were more interested in not changing the status quo ...!
Lil Johnny B as they call him on the streets 😎
This guy is trying real hard to emulate John the Baptist's hair style.
John almost certainly would have had very very large dreadlocks similar to Samson who had seven locks of hair. You try never cutting your hair and living in the wilderness without getting massive dreadlocks especially 2000 years ago when a comb probably cost a pretty penny
Michael York's portrayal of John the Baptist was magnificent.
Why do some cultures reject John so much? He ate locust and honey. The word is the word, we shouldn't pick favorites. ❤
Geddy Lee. Jesus. He was I hiding. He did not want to hang on the cross.
A question to all?? I’m Looking forward to an intelligent reply.?? Moved by lust at the sight of her, King David called for Bathsheba to be brought to him and slept with her. David committed adultery with a married woman called Bathsheba, wife of Uriah. what's more, David murdered Uriah by proxy by ordering all of Uriah's comrades to abandon him in the midst of battle, so that he ended up getting killed by an opposing army. The Prophet Nathan was sent by God and warned King David. well, Torah verses clearly say that both URIAH and DAVID Blessed by GOD.
Well, the question is, if Uriah, David and Bathsheba go to heaven. To whom will Bathsheba be given? This question is ready to test the wisdom of all of you: The Bible [ Torah ]: God promised that God had already chosen all three humans for heaven: David, Uriah and Bathsheba. I’m Looking forward to an intelligent reply.
Is Jesus a bastard? In the discussion Yosef Mizrachi said that he had proof to prove that Jesus had a biological father! But he has not yet made it public! Why?
No wonder the word of God has become so twisted, the Lord expects us “believe by faith” his breath as his word was the breath that inspired the writers of his word, f u don’t know the history and the customs of the time, u can’t understand everything in the Bible, “by faith”. The Bible was finished in the generation after the crusifiction “ sorry I can’t spell” chathlic church 300 yrs after, allah and the muslins 700yrs after, splits and cults up to today, and all the people who spread the false teachings of today.
4"50. John has three heads!
John, Jesus and Judas represent a sort of Trinity is early mistic Christian writings to represent a man before the spirit of god joins him, after they join in Jesus and after the Holy Spirit departs Jesus he becomes judas dying a second death on the cross.
You should do a teaching that the Old Testament god is an angel and not the Father of Jesus.
Why teach on the devil? He's the god of the flesh
John the Baptist was the half cousin of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Elizabeth was Mary’s full cousin. John’s mother was too old to conceive normally but YAHWEH allowed her to conceive and deliver John the Baptizer.
When the religious leaders asked him if he was the Messiah, he was not the Messiah but he answered: “I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, make way for the “Lamb of God” who takes away the sins of the world, whose shoes, I am not worthy to untie.
Eve was deceived in the Garden but Adam was not. YAHWEH held Adam responsible for the rebellion against The Creator of all things and passing on the sin nature we are born with.
Anyone who does not reach an age of accountability will immediately be in God’s presence when their heart stops beating. Any person who reaches an age of accountability and refuses YAHWEH’s free gift of redemption, will be cast into the “Lake of Fire” that burns forever and ever & the worm doesn’t die.
We can be religious and not Saved
“Born once, die twice, born twice, die once.”
"Unless ye become as little children..." Ready to go beyond speculation and allow GOD Itself to give you the answers, as I have done? John the Baptist was the Essene cousin of Jesus Christ, who was also born into the Essenes. The Bible tells you that John the Baptist was the same soul that had come as Elijah. And the Bible promises that Elijah shall return once again, in the so-called end times. And that would be Yours Truly. Want the secrets of this Universe, including the Meaning of Life? Click and ye shall find....
Nonsense. Get a life, man!
Wow, you never get around to answer your title question.
Instead of spinning your wheels in fictional stories, why not look to reality -- for real answers?
Theudas the Galilean sure matches a lot of key elements about the John the Baptizer character in the christian stories.
So you want him to focus on facts (which he does) and then suggests he talk about some theory you pulled directly out of thin air? Come on get serious.
Yikes, that Mandaeism text sounds like some next level ranting - lest we forget zealotry emerges in any corner 😅
Regarding the German word "Quelle" (source) I would like to point to the English word "well" (container of water) stemming from Germanic.
Who was John the Baptist? The Essene cousin of Jesus Christ, who was also born into the Essenes. The Bible tells you that John the Baptist was the same soul that had come as Elijah. And the Bible promises that Elijah shall return once again, in the so-called end times. And that would be Yours Truly. Want the secrets of this Universe, including the Meaning of Life? Click and ye shall find....
John prepared the way for the Holy Spirit per Isaiah 40:3 not another prophet after him.
He was the greatest prophet born among women and part of the first fruits resurrection or NEW BIRTH. He received his NEW name at the Jordan, Phillipians 2:9-10 the same new name all elect sons receive. Rev. 3:12.
Which Jesus in history are you talking about ?
THIS will help us understand your lectures.
No historical Jesus matches your story.
No one walked on water ,or immediately changed water into wine
Well these are his miracles, didn't perform these or others?
I can see how JTB assures the divinity of christ through the trinity.
Who knew the forerunner would introduce the messiah. Thank God.!
I think you need to raise the bar for your evidentiary standards a little higher.
John the Baptist at locust bean cakes with honey, not locusts the insects. "New Testament" authors smeared him as a type of bug eating weirdo because they saw him as a threat and murdered and lied about anyone who threatened their power, including the teacher of Yeshua.
Locusts are symbolism for demon spirits.
Eating the flesh of Jesus is consuming the Word of God, the Holy Bible.
Eating locusts is consuming doctrines of demons.
We Muslims love the Holy Spirit, the Beloved of God, Jesus, and we love Elijah the Prophet, Abraham, Noah, Joseph, and Zakariya, and our hearts weep for John the Baptist, the betrayed Messenger of God.
His exercise of Caesar, Augustus of the cloth and a cloud of each after the brows of my yolk over the letters of the people tribulations of a good man with the Hebrew and the trust is where I have the privilege to be remitted for the first Ireland and I am from the place that was made for a bit of Carnigy as the last one that came from my open door if any of the Israelites of the note from the Romans and the Augusta, Georgia blind man with a circle around David's daughter named Jude the City of Roem and Ezra.
Baptism 'to, by He.
Machavelli
Nero Julius Ceasar, the 'favorite' son of Germanicus (Zebedee, who dwells with god) 'twin' sons, ; the dioscuri or Nicolaitans (beloved of the people). Germanicus was a notoirious deceiver, pander and heir of ceasar (Tiberiius Julius Abdes Pantera Sidonia) aka Pandera. Germanicus 'twin' was send in exile (prisoned and martyred) at the island of Pandateria (land of the banned or bandits), Gadara Dalmathua. The brothers name is Drusus (andreas, andrew) J.C. nicknamed James the Less-er. Germanicus is also the father of Aggrippina minor (the blessed Lady) and the granddad of Neres (chrestus). The 'gens' or clan aka 'the scattered elect (-s-ed) far of abroad' what compares with the fallen angels or boanerges, walkures.
Try making sense, chump!
Zyprexa works - quickly. You should try it.
“John The Revelator” (a.k.a Jesus). John The Baptizer - the legitimate High Priest of Israel.
“John The Revelator”. This is a White Trash, southern segregationist expression.
I think the Knghts Templar came back from the Holy Land, believing that John the Baptist was the real Messiah.
Stop bsing. It’s unethical to mislead people, if you’re not sure keep it to yourself.
Well, it's a fact. I was just being discreet about it. @@daeviontaylor
@@igaluitchannel6644 Since you’re comfortable stating it’s a fact then share with me a credible source that supports that claim.
There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that even a single Templar converted to any kind of Mandaeanism. There are many stories about the Templars most of them either false or grossly misconstrued.
THis guy sounds like Michael Knowles.
His head is in 3 different places because they are his head at different ages. One when he was very young and the others when he was older. 😂😂😂😂
A JEW!
There was a John Lennon too, said to be more famous than Jesus.
DAVID JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS COUSIN TO JESUS. ELISABETH WAS
HE'S MOTHER. MARY&ELIZABETH
WERE COUSINS.🙂
This as ok, most of it was cringe and I would have prefered an Orthodox Priest to present this, not some common era goofball.