15 Things You Didn't Know About ROLEX
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I thought as Much I knew you guys have made this video before.
Please do a video on Seiko!
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Alux.com my favorite Rolex is the Rolex Submariner
MystiqueOG Very good choice. It is mine as well.
My Rolex is 29 years old, I have worn it everyday from the day I purchased it. I am now having it serviced for the first time, by Rolex. Worth every penny - and by far the favourite thing I own.
Must be fake or you've owned less than 5 years. Rolex requires maintenance service or rebuild every 3-5 years.
that's what you should do but if not it'll still go on tho not a smart thing to wait on it for 30 years
I have never serviced my 10yrs old Casio F941W, just changed my battery 2 yrs ago. It will outlast a Rolex
@@celyl How could it be fake if it's worked for 29 years? And if it is, I'll take the fake one. Not only that, only idiots have them serviced every five years. They only need servicing when they become inaccurate or not working at all.
@@tomkhong9828 Quartz watches don't require servicing. They don't have any moving parts.
I bought my first Rolex, a 2006 platinum Yachtmaster, in 2014 as a divorce anniversary gift to myself. I love the watch, it’s simplicity, elegant practicality, quality, value. I sailed 3500 nm from West Palm Beach to Mt Dessert Isle in ME and back to Annapolis (mostly solo) with this watch keeping my time the entire trip. It is one my few possessions and I cherish as well as my opportunity to pass it along to one of sons one day.
I own a 1976 Rolex Oyster Perpetual (no date) that keeps chronometer certified time which was plus or minus 4 seconds per day back in 1976. That outstanding accuracy gives me a huge feeling of satisfaction from a 46 year old timepiece!
There are some amazingly accurate replicas out there. Rolex can always distinguish what isn’t theirs because they have their own foundry producing parts, using proprietary formulas. Broad spectrum photometry is like a fingerprint of metal composition. They can detect when an alloy isn’t meeting their secret specifications.
For those wondering what's with the re-upload:
Our original video had a small piece of content that went against UA-cam policies so we had to take it down. We worked really hard on making the best video we could and it would've been a shame if we were to not publish it again. We took the small part that was the problem out, solved the issue and now the video is back on our channel! The only think is, we had to re-upload!
Thanks for understanding!
Is it possible to replace that small portion out of old video through youtube video editor?
Dare I ask : what could possibly upset UA-cam about an informative aspirational video like this?
Alux.com what was the content
The only *thing is, we had to re-upload!
Alux.com w 20s! I am wondering about the flaw in your video. Possibly.not mentioning that Rolex also makes a quartz watch. That I would never own they call this cellini
Since I'm able to tell a fake rolex from a real one , am I a stripper now ?
As qualified as one to say the least!
LOL
Backhanded comment is backhanded.
Madorable - excellent
Madorable - how u can know its real or fake rolex?
6:40 The most expensive watch in the world is Paul Newman's Daytona (auctioned for 17,500,000 $).
yes, but the drive carefully me watch's record was broken by a pp watch last yr. in an auction.
This is a 3 yr old video 😂😂
Well, thats a new record bitch
The twenty most expensive watches ever auctioned are all Patek Philippe. The Paul Newman watch ranks # 22.
The air king 2016 model shown in the video cost 6500 dollars and it's not the entry level, which is the oyster perpetual which cost over 5000 dollars. Get your facts right.
Right? And that's the tip of the iceberg. WORST Rolex vid I've ever seen. I'd be embarrassed if I'd made this video.
Horrible looking watch
the Rolex air King is $2,500 but people are rip offs they increase the price to $6,500. The air King is not that expensive, scammers made up expensive prices on the watch
@@bambam3360 the 2016 model Air King is a great looking watch it will turn out to be a classic mark my words ...I agree it takes a while to adjust to it's looks I was one of those people , but I eventually pulled the trigger bought one and do not regret it ...it is instantly recognisable as a Rolex Air King ...and will appreciate in value in years to come .
5 minutes into this video and a 3rd of it is already wrong or incorrect and only partially accurate
waste of time
Lavaman3682 Agreed. The kindest way i can state it is "intentionally misleading". Like the part about the chronometer cert.; Omega held the top spot for watches in general and had been creating Chronometer certified POCKET watches since long before Rolex ever existed. Wrist watches were simply not popular among the buying public at all when Rolex released that wrist watch. The movements in the competing pocket watches were no larger than that Rolex used in their wrist watch. And that Rolex watch did not sell particularly well.
Sheesh, and that's just the start of the lies and half-truths.
@@DBravo29er Idiot wrist not pocket what a stupid.
Fact 6 is false. A brand new Air King, reference 214270 is $6,500.
When she said you can buy it for 2200$ i became very happy and i paused the video to check the rolex.com but it was 6500$ :(
@@qaisbostani3433 lol I did the same!
Why does she think an Air King is $2,200.00?
The 214270 is the 39mm Explorer.
In my book, an in-house automatic watch can be considered a fine timepiece. Seiko and Orient are those ones.
Seiko make a fine watch my particular favourites are the grand seiko series.
Rolex doesn't show what time it is, it shows that your time has come.
This literally makes no sense
@@horologie It is basic!
9oo9
Good one
Strippers are trained to spot a fake Rolex😂😂😂👏👏👏😂😂😂😂👏👏👏...very informative and extremely insightful 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s the truth Jim
@@alux I had no idea strippers where horologist lol
@@icemannbmwYeah, I thought those were their customers.
Rolex Collector: I will buy myself my first Rolex after I buy my first rental property. I never was interested in watches until I learned Rolex holds or increases its value after purchase. Rolex = Asset
it's kinda a bad asset. Also how is it going?
@@onionpie310 not really a bad asset anymore thwn say a classic car.
@@leonhenry4478 a car is a way worse investment. It takes up 1000x more space. Might need insurance. Needs to be covered at all times and maintenanced monthly.
Great. My Rolex was bought in 1983 but still runs like a champion. Love it a lot.
Love my Rolexes but I always find myself going back to the simple no-date two-line Submariner. There is so much elegance in its simplicity and minimalist practicality.
Interesting that you find that one to be simple and minimalistic, I find the case to be the opposite. The minimalistic one would be the oyster perpetual in my opinion.
@@astephanc Both are minimalist to me. The Submariner is just the oyster perpetual with a bezel. :)
I'm a minimalist as well and I use my cell phone as my watch which keeps more accurate time than a Rolex. But I've thinking that perhaps I should wear a Rolex in case my cell phone battery dies. A rolex would be a good 2nd option to have.
I love how much most of the video content of the actual watch making is Patek Philippe.
Another correction; the Rolex Air King has a retail of approximately $5,800, I don't know who/what your source is...
jackspot second hand, you'd find it in the 2000-2500 range.
Not for the 2017 Rolex Air King.
she bought it at Walmart.
I’m so tired of being called “Aluxer”
lol
I'll be getting my 1st Rolex (Oyster Perpetual 34) for my November 1st, 28th year wedding anniversary. Great presentation!
Quite impressive. I wish to have my own company of such a high standard.
Fun Fact: If i had a dollar for every time "Rolex" was mentioned in this video, i could actually buy a Rolex.
J Oh Scary fact: if you had a dollar everytime Rolex was mentioned in this video you couldn't even buy the air king.
@SNEAKER JUNKIES! lmao laughing at this while i stare at my GMT Master II on my wrist
@@JoeOh100 BULLSHIT smell do i.
The narrator says if second hand does not move smoothly it’s not a Rolex. Not True. I have an Oysterquartz chronometer and the second hand ticks once per second.
@@The01t If you had a dollar for every time Rolex was mentioned in this video you still wouldn’t have the common sense to purchase a Jaeger Lecoultre , Omega, or Grand Seiko, all of which are better watches.
The footage here is from the patek phillipe factory, not rolex.
where
Yea
Don't be so negatively extreme
Do you work at the factory. How do you know that.
It's not one of the most expensive Rolex's but the one that I'm eyeing intently, and like quite a bit, is the Sea Dweller. The Deepsea is cool too but I think the magnifier aesthetic of the Sea Dweller looks fantastic.
Inherited the Rolex I helped my father pick out when I was 21, 24 years ago.
That's cool bro, sure it's got a story to tell if you pass it on
Very nice. Which model?
How beautiful is that..Treasured Memories Shared Together..☘🇮🇪
My Rolex GMT Master II f series has no holes and is 22 years old and has travelled at the pointy end of a few airliners since becoming a captain! Although the watch gains time at altitude due to higher cabin altitude but gets reset using the atomic clock onboard upon arrival at the gate. Irrespective, it’s still a terrific time piece!
...interesting - I was under the distinct impression that watch build, mainspring tension, watch position (axis) and temperature were the four variables that impacted a watch's accuracy.
my favorite Rolex is definitely the Yacht-Master II. bought it this year couldn't be happier even made a review for it I love it that much
I owned Seikos all my life and finally grew the balls for a Rollie. A Sea Dweller 50th Anniversary :) better than cash in the bank
Very well said, yes it is better than cash in the bank at least you can wear it and enjoy the beauty of it.
I just purchased a 1966 Oyster Date model 1503 solid 14kt Gold, aftermarket market mother of pearl face with diamond dials, has the 1570 movement.
Paid $4400
If I were you, I would've picked a Grand Seiko.
Matt Kwok
I stick to the Rollie. Grand Seikos are mint tho
MGTOCRETES nice bro 😎
No, wrong info. There were quartz rolexes made before where it "tic tocks" and skips seconds, and there are also rolexes without cyclops(the date magnifier).
Those don't tell that a rolex is fake
The quartz Rolex watches will have lettering on the face to tell you that it's a quartz movement e.g. Oysterquartz etc. If you see one without this or one that says it's an automatic, it's a fake.
Yeah many real Rolexes including the one first worn by 007 didn't have a cyclops magnifier but many fakes these days do have accurate cyclopses now so that's no way to tell anymore.
@@bradcogan8588 I totally agree. I mean, fake rolexes also are made with automatic movements, so like none of those tell whether it is a real rolex or a fake
@@petersoccer777 the fakes are so good now there's almost no tells anymore especially with the more expensive ones. You can spend like £1000 on a replica.
Brad Cogan so true the replicas are almost dead on.
yes true my rolex doesnt tel date but is original
My Favorite is the Submariner. I REALLY like the Daytona as well.
Rolex collector. Great video! I need a blue face skydweller. I am so in love with that time piece.
These watches started off as working watches, but this is making it sound like a luxury brand from day one lol
I have several Rolex watches in my collection, but my all time favorite is my 116233 Datejust with silver dial. It's a true classic.
Would you sell one?
@saurabh your a muppet sir
Mine too
The price of a new Rolex Air King is around $6,500, not $2,200. You might be able to buy a used one in the two grand range.
$2k long gone
Brent David I bought my brother one for a little over 5k didn't find anything under 5k
Haha, was just about to write the same thing.
Also, it is not even close to being the cheapest. Would probably be the Oyster Perpetual 31mm at around $3,800.
I like the Rolex Daytona in platinum with an ice blue face.
Rolex collector
i have a gold oyster perpetual, and i think i've had it for maybe 30 years.....what a beautiful watch it is, and how good it makes me feel when it's on my wrist.... and i'm sure it's never lost even one second in time....
I bought my Datejust in 1989 and I reckon it has cost me 23 cents a day to own.
Very interesting and informative video. Well done.
One of the clips they used weren't even from Rolex..that was a Patek😂
Travelling the world and becoming a chef are the only dreams i had......owning a rolex just got up to the list
I have my Submariner Date since 1981 and still going very well. I love this watch and I wear almost everyday since then.
and you should for the cost of the thing!
My favorite Rolex watch is 'Tudor Oiyster' which I am using on my wrist from 1961 to date without any problem.
If you are going to RE upload a video at least get the facts right! THE ROLEX OYSTERQUARTZ IS NOT A FAKE AND THE SECOND HAND SKIPS!!!!
Yup I own one people try and tell me it’s fake all the time. Lol I just laugh and say “ google it”
point 5 outdaaaaaaaaated haha paul newmans rolex daytona was sold on auction for 17.75M USD
Thanks for sharing, so elegant ,interesting and classy, best wishes to ROLEX and staff.
My favourite Rolex? 1956 Oyster Perpetual 6569, which my father wore from the day he purchased it till he passed away in 2001. I feel fortunate to have inherited it.
Hey guys maybe update the description to say its a reupload and why - since the info and prices are out of whack (Air Kings are NOT $2200 any longer etc) :)
watch it again. She was saying that in the 80's it was 2200.
Next correction, Rolex made OysterQuartz watches; the second hand ticks.
The oyster quartz was called a fake
I really wish you guys would put a video out like this about Grand Seiko. I've been getting into watches during the Pandemic and the innovation and history seems worthy of being among these "15 Things" watch videos you have. I've watched them all .......... twice.
Many thanks
Common.... you're silly !
We're talking here about Rolls Royces and You want us talk about VW beetles.....
This is another league pal.
Save your praise. Nonsense video. Some Rolex watches DO tick once per second. I have one. It’s a Oysterquartz chronometer. According to this silly video it’s fake. Definitely nonsense video.
@@loliscarranza488 Rolex is the VW Beetle. Another league pal, would be Patek Philippe. I know, cause I own both brands.
Whenever I have to travel to a shady destination and I choose not to take my Rolex I always end up missing her.
Wierd, I went to the Rolex flagship store on 5th ave and they said the cheapest watch was $5000 not $2250 ._.
Only 2000 dollar Rolex you will find is a crappy used one on Craigslist or eBay
My favorite is definitely the submariner. I bought the no-date submariner 2-1/2 years ago and its already selling for more than I paid for it. From what I understand that model is hard to come by, more demand than supply. No regrets. Such a great investment. I had always wanted one, ever since my dad got one in the late 60's. He probably paid around 3 or 4 hundred back then.
Definitely the datejust sporting a jubilee bracelet. It’s timeless as it’s been around since 1945; something you can pass down to your kids.
I agree, and have one. I mentioned it in a comment I just submitted. Mine's a mid-seventies two-tone with the serrated gold bezel, Champagne face, and Jubilee bracelet. I paid only $1,600 about 8 years ago. I read that in that period, Rolex used 14 carat gold. Perhaps there was a recession. As you would know, on the face it is stated, "Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified."
“If youre a true alux-er, your sports interests go beyond football, cricket and the NBA” - the most pretentious thing I’ve heard in a while
It’s the entire point of this channel.
Why did you skip over the history of Rolex during WWII?
Was it because back then they were merely considered a reliable timepiece instead of a status symbol?
Back in the day their pocket watches were modified to sit in a frame on the dashboard of military vehicles. I have one that I have had mounted into a leather 'wristlet' - it was my grandfather's war watch.
In Uganda, We EAT Rolexes-
Really?
Faux-Lex lol
Saw that on the Amazing Race 👍🏽
Rolex is the most famous watch, Patek is the most prestigious!
Ninja Warrior wrong, Vacheron is the most prestigeous
@@sonlaxx wrong, it's A Lagne & Sohne.
@@BugattianVeyronian wrong breguet
Me: My Timex says it is 12:01You: My Rolex says it is 12:01Me: So I have time to spend my extra $6000 on something worthwhile!
So, you watched this and still don't get it? Ok, enjoy your Walmart timex.
@@rickwarrick3092 lol
how the fuck are you comparing a shitty timex to a rolex lol what a fool, just the craftsmanship alone ays it all your timex will go out before a rolex stops ticking
I love the Rolex submariner but also the Rolex Datejust
Rolex Collector
How many u got?
My favorite isn't even mine. It's the one I just restored and serviced for a friend at work. Datejust that was a retirement piece for his father was in major need of attention. I have been doing clocks and pocket watches for quite some time and started on the wrist watches two years ago. Didn't take long for word to spread and people with higher end non-working prizes called on me. I must say.......utterly AMAZED at the level of quality and detail inside one of these! Anyone who actually does service work would have no trouble spotting a fake if open the back. Thanks so much for sharing! These are cool facts to pass along to those I know. Thanks for sharing!
The first waterproof watch was exhibited at the Great Exhibition in London in 1851 by W. Pettit & Co. There are several patents from the 1800’s about water proof watches and screw down crowns. The early ones are of course pocket watches but there are advertisements of ”submarine” wrist watches that are waterproof in newspapers dating back as early as 1916.
I’m interested in getting one custom made for myself. Rolex collector
Most valuable information about Rolex watches
I love the new 2021 Date just with the blue fluted dial on the white gold or the palm frond dial in gold. Impossible to get but so gorgeous.
Cheapest rolex is between 5-5.5k US dollars.... and rolex DID make quartz movements once which actually ticks.... they r called rolex oyster quartz.... not all of these r true
Why this lady laugh and speaks??
i think they believe it's sexy and alluring, which is sexiest as hell.
actually it is, and i'm not even a feminazi!
She needs to stop lying
Give me MOVADO
She is on her first paid gig
Stop making videos 20-30 mins long. And stop with the idiotic intro and the extra talking. Get to the point
word
and the crap ton of ads
WHINING BITCHES...... THE WHOLE LOT OF YOU !!! WHEN YOU CAN AFFORD A REAL FUCKING ROLEX & STOP WEARING TOTAL SHITTERS FROM "WATCH GAYYYYNG" THEN YOU CAN TRASH IT. UNTIL THEN, GO FUCK YOURSELF 😁😁😁
I wear a Rolex Precision that was bought new in 1964! It has been back to Rolex a couple of times for cleaning and adjustment. While it has the Oyster bracelet, this one is different in that one half of it is expandible while the other half is fixed. It had been through a lot!
Rolex Yachtmaster II and a Blue Submariner for us please, thank you :)
I think I'm going to start collecting vids on Rolex...
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Welcome to the family!! Great to have you :)
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Great info 👍🏻
Will buy Daytona Rainbow & Yacht Master 2 in few days
I have a MontBlanc Timewalker, Tag Heuer Formula1 and Rolex GMT Master II. I like watches and my Rolex is my pride. Incredible timeless watch.
Just got my first one. Datejust 41
My limited edition Citizen was only 1k :( and I thought it was expensive 😧
Phenomenal watch simple ans valuable
There are Rolex watches / models using quartz movements - battery and therefore the sec hand did not sweep ....
Oysterquartz
I wish I have a Rolex one day, I love it...
I wish I could afford one to add to my watch collection
how many watches do you need? get one and wear it daily. I prefer my rolex to an apple watch (received as a gift) but the things a smart watch can do is truly inspiring. though I enjoy my water proof sub mariner, the rolex takes 'licking and keeps on ticking"- oh yeah that's another 5 letter brand of watch .the apple watch did mot last as long. with the face seem to disconnect from the watch band - hanging by a cable? no desire yet to replace it- was a gift and happy with my Rolex. which does turn some heads- which is fine, by me and opens some doors. to conversation. I recall a couple of doctors thought it wasn't real.
I bought my OP in 1969, I have just had it seviced by Rolex, it looks and runs like new, well within the specification of a chronometer. A mechanical masterpiece. It will be handed down to a family member and I am sure it will still be going well in another 50 years time.
WHERE IS THE PLACE WHO MAKE YHE SERVICE, AND HOW MUCH COST?
THANKS
@@ricardohilton3568 Any Rolex authorised dealer will arrange a service. Around £550 for a normal service. Well worth the money, you will get a certificate of authenticity and a two year guarantee.
Rolexer!!! My favorite is the rose gold Skydweller
ROLEX DateJust is a masterpiece.
1958 Rolex still gorgeous today. timeless design
You should auction it , it's 62 years old
My favorite is my Explorer II ref 16550 that has faded into the cream dial and also has a rail dial. I bought it in January of 1987 for $900.00 from Bailey Banks and Biddle in Kansas City.
I have a 2005 GMT Master II. Paid $5300 for it. Just appraised at $12500 used retail. I weare it every day, and it has never been treated delicately. It is a rugged watch and I use it as such. Just had it serviced and it is +2 spd. Perfection, and the GMT is the most difficult Rolex to purchase retail.
Rolex daytona is my favorite.
The Wimbledon is my favorite but overall I love the 2 toned datejust with jubelee. There's just something about the contrasting metals that pull the ❤️ strings.
I used to have the Datejust in the two-tone jubilee, I had the blue dial. Just something about silver, blue and gold, I love the combination. Am now considering a submariner with the two-tone and blue dial also. Just so beautiful.
I have one too and love it more than gold version I own.
I love love love my Rolex watches, the first was picked was a Day Date/White Gold 228239 and the second was a Daytona 116500LN that I FINALLY got my hands on. And now my 12 year old daughter is getting into watches and loves to wear whichever one I'm not wearing at the time while she's doing her homework.
I would love one. I intend to get one one day.
You got me with that “future billionaires” intro. New subscriber
Still love my Breitling !
Very informative video 👍
Thx for the info 👍👍👍
My favorite Rolex is mine.
GMT Master ll Black & Maroon, nicknamed the Coca-Cola.
Purchased new in December 1987 for the crazy prize of $1,200.
This video mentions price, but does not take into consideration the fluctuations in Exchange Rates from U.S Dollars and Swiss Francs. A weak Dollar means you need more of them to buy a Rolex.
One problem with my Rolex, it sat in a Safety Deposit Box for 10 years and the Luminous Dial no longer glows.
Why does the video use Patek Phillipe factory footage?
My favorite is Cellini Time 18k white gold beautifully made.
What fun. Beat this: in 1952 I bought a new Rolex Oyster at a U.S. Air Force PX in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, for $38. (At the same time, two friends of mine bought automatic Omega Seamasters for $65 as I recall.) My Oyster is no-date, manual wind. On the face it says on three lines, Rolex / Oyster / Shock Resisting. Even when new, a sort of patina was starting to spread from the center of the face. That has continued with a random pattern out to the gold number sticks. It looks much better than I make it sound. It had a leather strap. A few years later I bought a pre-owned period-correct bracelet for it, with a straight line where it joined the case, as opposed to curved. Right now it is being serviced, as I recall, for the first time. It was running fine, but my watchmaker friend says he is having to replace the pallet bridge (I think he called it), and must make a tiny correction to a generic one. I also have a pre-owned mid-seventies two-tone Datejust with Champagne face, gold stick numbers, serrated gold bezel, gold crown, and Jubilee bracelet, of 14 carat gold in that era as I understand. I gave my granddaughter the same in the Ladies model, a 2006 or so. Last, I bought a new no-date steel Submariner from an AD in about 2016. I have friends with many more and more costly Rolexes, but I am so happy to have the ones I have.
I have to Edit because I totally forgot that I received as a 30-year award from the same Arabian-American company an 18 c Day-Date with leather strap (it came with two). For a 35-year award, I was eligible for another with a gold bracelet, but I was in a period of depression, had no interest, and took instead a ridiculously small dollar alternative. I'm too embarrassed to tell you how little. There's no happy ending regarding this watch; I sold it for a stupidly small amount about ten years ago, why, I don't know as I didn't need the money.
If all this sounds like too much, I am 97 years old, and transferred to Arabia in 1952 already with 5 years service with an affiliate under my belt.
I just wanna Rollie Rollie Rollie with that dab of ranch
I’ll gladly buy all the Air Kings you can cough up at that price!
My favorite is the Sky Dweller.
My favorite was my 1980 President with a bark bezel and bracelet. Bought it at Tiffany's so the rare blue lapis dial had Tiffany & Co printed on it. Think I paid around $3800 back then. Sold it with the original outer/inner boxes, paperwork etc for $9000 in the early 2000s. Who knew? They were just good watches back then....