you do realize IDEX has been a thing for a long time right.... this isnt new at all. Still glad there are more coming out as an IDEX is awesome for multi material AND doing bulk prints of multiple items.
@@chargerman426 Sure, I do. And I wasn't referring to it being IDEX. It's more of the whole concept. The sum of a pre-built, enclosed Core-XY, Auto-Leveling (tilting), real open source klipper 3D printer. And on top it's in imho the most interesting IDEX approach with the motors mounted to the print heads. All of that for a very competitive price point makes it one of the most interesting concepts in 2024 in my personal opinion.
Seeing how easy it will be to assemble and having watch videos showing the print quality I have made my decision to purchase this printer with my tax return. Thank you for this video. I am certain that it is greatly appreciated by others as it is with me.
I'm already planning to use these in my farm, thank you for the informational resource so we can be better prepared when they arrive. Looking forward to the next video in the series.
Saves a ton of space. That enables me to convert a ender5 to an idex printer, a machine originally designed for single toolhead use without any loss in build space
I am looking forward to seeing more on this printer in the future. I am not really a fan of Klipper, but I am excited to see an IDEX with the capabilities that Klipper brings.
Awesome, Taylor! Looking forward for more videos! Since you know so much about 3D-printers and in particular this brand I hope you make many many more about this one!
Finally an IDEX printer that has convincing quality details. And thank you for the good video you presented to us. In part two I would like to learn what nozzles have been used (looks like V6), will the filament spools fit inside the printer (where they should be) and the calibration stuff. I am excited.
Nice video, thanks! Although I am not quite sure if it is a good idea to put motors into the extruders... as those motors are huge and powerful. Furthermore, the only valid option for IDEX (at least for me) would be to use another material for support as I do not print many two color models (either single color or at least three). But apart from that it divides the build volume in less than half so that you have a huge printer with only a small and heigh build volumen.
Please more videos about this printer. After you first video, I bought one and have the box now a few weeks sitting around. I really want to use it but would like a quick start and not fiddle around for days to get useful prints.
Looks interesting. Waiting for a full review, but it has a lot of potential, basically fulfills almost everything i would want on the next 3D printer, and for a reasonable price, considering the solid mechanics. The only thing i don't like too much are the pinda bed probe, as i would have loved a bed sensor that uses the nozzle touching on the bed as reference. And having the spools at the back of the printer seems unpratical. I can't reach that place with such a big printer. Guess i would use a drybox on the side anyway to print disolvable support material with the second head, so it's not a huge issue i guess.
I learned not to fancy the nozzle touch sensor as I always seem to fight oozing filament. I am sure the filament spools will fit inside next to the bed, many people added that in the J1 for example. They stay nice and cosy warm there too.
I have X1C now and i need dual extruder 3d printer. I was looking to buy Snapmaker J1S, but then i saw this. Do you think i should buy this printer or J1S. I like this printer when i see its size, but would you suggest me to go with it because it just came out or you are sure that it is a great and durable printer. I also like open source firmware on this machine. Thanks for your answer i appreciate it. Best regrads!
I was also lookin for Prusa xl with 2 toolheads but it is a little bit too much for me at least for now. I usually print ABS and it will be great if I would print it with support material like hips, and use soluble support for PLA.
It's interesting the extruder X drive is like old OpenBuilds belt drive from 2012. Just bought one of these, so hoping it's reliable, and possibly able to add a ERCF.
Thank you. Wish it would have been just a but bigger but I look forward to see how it holds up and what mods might come down the way. Already I can see upgrading the screen. Where would one look for that? Thank you for the video. Seems like a decent company that deserves more exposure.
Thats a lot of weight for the x-axis linear rail to support on its own. There will be deflection in the center. Would love to see that measured in a future video.
@@mkhmkh1266 I would be shocked if it is only 6 microns. Mesh bed leveling is not that accurate (typically ~25 microns). And you cannot fully compensate by bed mesh because it will deflect by different amounts depending on the speed of the head. This is one of the big problems with older makerbots that used round rails. It is why all modern printers use stiffer square extrusions for the gantry.
I hope your prints have been coming out better than mine after twenty odd prints so far only three were acceptable, problems bird nests and shifting have been the outcome!
I wonder how these toolheads do for flow rate? Are they upgradable or due to the proprietary nature is this just what we are stuck with for hotends and nozzles? Really good quality build here. The troodon has competition... Oh wait . That's them as well
I think a genuinely innovative design would be for a multi-material system designed for IDEX systems. So you could load four filaments, then run two to each hotend for reduced waste reduction of the IDEX system and more material mixing. I'm glad IDEX isn't going anywhere. I haven't gotten a good use for mine since I got my AMS and Bambu Printers, as I primarily wanted multi color printing.
You know you shouldn't use MGN rails without underlying supporting structure (floating in mod air as this is done here on X axis)? It is in HIWIN's datasheet
Looks very solidly built, but it also has some odd design choices that may or may not actually prove out. It looks like the IDEX ratrig vcore 4 is going to compete with this printer, and their offering looks more convincing at the moment.
One of the most interesting concepts I've seen so far in 2024. Pleased to see you posting about it. Thanks!
you do realize IDEX has been a thing for a long time right.... this isnt new at all. Still glad there are more coming out as an IDEX is awesome for multi material AND doing bulk prints of multiple items.
@@chargerman426
Sure, I do. And I wasn't referring to it being IDEX. It's more of the whole concept. The sum of a pre-built, enclosed Core-XY, Auto-Leveling (tilting), real open source klipper 3D printer.
And on top it's in imho the most interesting IDEX approach with the motors mounted to the print heads.
All of that for a very competitive price point makes it one of the most interesting concepts in 2024 in my personal opinion.
@@denisjovic2023 This is not Core-XY
Seeing how easy it will be to assemble and having watch videos showing the print quality I have made my decision to purchase this printer with my tax return. Thank you for this video. I am certain that it is greatly appreciated by others as it is with me.
Looks pretty solid overall! Excited to see how it prints.
I'm already planning to use these in my farm, thank you for the informational resource so we can be better prepared when they arrive. Looking forward to the next video in the series.
Nice printer. I'm looking forward for part 2
i think that:
- the toolheads themselves look VERY nice honestly, love the industrial look
- putting the X motors inside the toolheads is SO SMART
Saves a ton of space. That enables me to convert a ender5 to an idex printer, a machine originally designed for single toolhead use without any loss in build space
I am looking forward to seeing more on this printer in the future. I am not really a fan of Klipper, but I am excited to see an IDEX with the capabilities that Klipper brings.
Awesome, Taylor! Looking forward for more videos! Since you know so much about 3D-printers and in particular this brand I hope you make many many more about this one!
Impressive build quality! Thank you for the unboxing and details mentioned. I'm looking forward to Part 2.
Great Video! This is my prime contender for purchase at this time. Just waiting to see how the reviews go
would love to see how it matches up against the ratrig vcore-4 idex once it's out. Love the idex revival :)
Looks neat. Waiting for full review
Nice overview of the Marathon Taylor Thank you for posting !
Finally an IDEX printer that has convincing quality details. And thank you for the good video you presented to us.
In part two I would like to learn what nozzles have been used (looks like V6), will the filament spools fit inside the printer (where they should be) and the calibration stuff. I am excited.
Nice video, thanks!
Although I am not quite sure if it is a good idea to put motors into the extruders... as those motors are huge and powerful. Furthermore, the only valid option for IDEX (at least for me) would be to use another material for support as I do not print many two color models (either single color or at least three). But apart from that it divides the build volume in less than half so that you have a huge printer with only a small and heigh build volumen.
Looks cool, looking forward to the prints
Just curious, at this point would you recommend this printer? I'm looking to get it soon.
Next video about this printer please! And wat you think about very thin rail for T0 and T1 print head?
Please more videos about this printer. After you first video, I bought one and have the box now a few weeks sitting around. I really want to use it but would like a quick start and not fiddle around for days to get useful prints.
I just like the idea with an IDEX system being able to print PETG with PLA supports. And be able to easily 3D print signs.
Cool. Looking forward to review focusing on print quality and UI etc. Thanks
Looks interesting. Waiting for a full review, but it has a lot of potential, basically fulfills almost everything i would want on the next 3D printer, and for a reasonable price, considering the solid mechanics.
The only thing i don't like too much are the pinda bed probe, as i would have loved a bed sensor that uses the nozzle touching on the bed as reference. And having the spools at the back of the printer seems unpratical. I can't reach that place with such a big printer. Guess i would use a drybox on the side anyway to print disolvable support material with the second head, so it's not a huge issue i guess.
I learned not to fancy the nozzle touch sensor as I always seem to fight oozing filament.
I am sure the filament spools will fit inside next to the bed, many people added that in the J1 for example. They stay nice and cosy warm there too.
looking foward to see how it runs in next video
I have X1C now and i need dual extruder 3d printer. I was looking to buy Snapmaker J1S, but then i saw this. Do you think i should buy this printer or J1S. I like this printer when i see its size, but would you suggest me to go with it because it just came out or you are sure that it is a great and durable printer. I also like open source firmware on this machine. Thanks for your answer i appreciate it. Best regrads!
I was also lookin for Prusa xl with 2 toolheads but it is a little bit too much for me at least for now. I usually print ABS and it will be great if I would print it with support material like hips, and use soluble support for PLA.
I'm impatiently waiting for more content and opinions on this machine. 😅
Was wondering when your video on this would show up! 😀
Was great. When is part 2 of this video coming out?
I'm liking the NEMA 14 motors being on the X carriage. Smart move.
It's interesting the extruder X drive is like old OpenBuilds belt drive from 2012. Just bought one of these, so hoping it's reliable, and possibly able to add a ERCF.
Thank you. Wish it would have been just a but bigger but I look forward to see how it holds up and what mods might come down the way. Already I can see upgrading the screen. Where would one look for that? Thank you for the video. Seems like a decent company that deserves more exposure.
BigTreeTech would be the place to look for a larger screen.
Been wondering if this things worth the buy for a small business.
Thats a lot of weight for the x-axis linear rail to support on its own. There will be deflection in the center. Would love to see that measured in a future video.
I think the designer said something like 6 microns, compensated by the bed mesh.
@@mkhmkh1266 I would be shocked if it is only 6 microns. Mesh bed leveling is not that accurate (typically ~25 microns). And you cannot fully compensate by bed mesh because it will deflect by different amounts depending on the speed of the head. This is one of the big problems with older makerbots that used round rails. It is why all modern printers use stiffer square extrusions for the gantry.
@@mntngeek ya this and the lack of can cable are the reasons im probably going with a troodon 2 pro
Love to see how it manages to bed level with two nozzles
I hope your prints have been coming out better than mine after twenty odd prints so far only three were acceptable, problems bird nests and shifting have been the outcome!
I'm very interested in seeing how klipper is configured.
When will the next video about the marathon drop? I'm very interested in this printer, it looks awesome, especially compared to the prusa xl.
Hoping soon. Have been busy with other projects.
This is for very advanced in 3d printing people
I wonder how these toolheads do for flow rate? Are they upgradable or due to the proprietary nature is this just what we are stuck with for hotends and nozzles? Really good quality build here. The troodon has competition... Oh wait . That's them as well
$1,300
Looks like a pretty good price for an enclosed idex
Nice video, i did same to install my screen, it was much easier with it removed from housing.
I think a genuinely innovative design would be for a multi-material system designed for IDEX systems. So you could load four filaments, then run two to each hotend for reduced waste reduction of the IDEX system and more material mixing. I'm glad IDEX isn't going anywhere. I haven't gotten a good use for mine since I got my AMS and Bambu Printers, as I primarily wanted multi color printing.
Can you upgrade it with the Rapido 2.0 without changing boards/firmware/sensor and print head assembly ?
Could the nozzle be changed to a 0,6mm nozzle for CF or GF filaments?
You know you shouldn't use MGN rails without underlying supporting structure (floating in mod air as this is done here on X axis)? It is in HIWIN's datasheet
Ive seen references to a discord server for this printer. Any idea where to find invite links?
i was waiting for this for a long time. does it worth the money? I'm so disappointed with my prusa XL, that i can't tell you :(
Looks very solidly built, but it also has some odd design choices that may or may not actually prove out. It looks like the IDEX ratrig vcore 4 is going to compete with this printer, and their offering looks more convincing at the moment.
Thanks for posting! I'm getting antsy for the next video. Is it still happening?
@@ficklecycler yes it is! Severely delayed on account of a busy life but it’s pretty far along in production.
When they offer this with a 500x500x500 build capacity, I'll buy one.
11:58 it’s already over 2ft in depth and they put the spool holders on the back?! 😮😂
Hmmm pretty good at this price point 😮
Is there really only a linear rail as a gantry?
Yes
@@ygk3d …two toolheads on it. Is it not gonna bend/vibrate already?
How do you think it will go printing large ABS parts?
It's enclosed so probably pretty well
at that size the x rail should really be supported
its interesting, but doesnty strike me a s a 400ms/ printer even, probably 150mms tops?
Well there it is. My dream printer. Idex klipper enclosed high temp machine under 2k
A new interesting printer than isn't the Magneto X or an X1 clone ?
And it has bent steel sheets and ballscrews ??
how so? it has idex feature on it
Nice🎉
Awww shucks. You've fallen down the same rabbit hole as other 3D printer creators by just reviewing free machines. Shame.
Who cares? He gave pretty honest reviews of what I've seen so far.
the wrench is so tiny
Thanks for watching!
It is all about software.
It’s running Klipper. Seems like a good implementation.
For the low low cost. Lol
My employer just paid $300,000 for a HP printer
HP MJF is in a league of its own. But that price is crazy 🥵