The PC turbo button mystery finally solved!

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  • Опубліковано 13 лют 2023
  • An example of how to settle a long-running Internet debate and bust a revisionist history myth, by reading manuals, books, and magazine articles, doing some research, and confirming it with your own tests. C'mon folks, it's not that hard!
    Time flow:
    0:12 First, history lesson
    2:37 Zenith Z-148 PC
    3:48 A typical 486 PC
    10:23 Gateway 2000 4DX-33
    11:52 5x86 with fake cache
    15:07 Turbo buttons EOL
    16:01 Don't take my word for it!
    Note: This video was originally uploaded in October 2022 as an unlisted, updated version of the initial release of this video, which used a portion of text-to-speech synthesis which some viewers didn't like. I decided to make this version public, which is why it shows up as being published in February 2023, and retire the initial version of the video.
    Intel 486 SL Microprocessor SuperSet Data Book:
    www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/...
    #turbo #cpu #vintagecomputing
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  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife  Рік тому +313

    *Note:* This video was originally uploaded in October 2022 as an unlisted, updated version of the initial release of this video, which used a portion of text-to-speech synthesis which some viewers didn't like. I decided to make this version public, which is why it shows up as being published in February 2023, and retire the initial version of the video.

    • @KE5ZZO
      @KE5ZZO Рік тому +25

      I thought I recognized this as a repeat… strange thing it was public when I saw the original video

    • @mytech6779
      @mytech6779 Рік тому +5

      The turbo button selects between two speeds, therefore it can speed up or slow down the machine depending on perspective. As several commenters have stated, many clone brands had the button or indicator light reversed. If the default is full speed then it is semantically correct to say that the turbo button slows down the computer(especially on janky hardware that reverses the indications).
      Though I agree that any complete article should explain both situations rather than making half-truth blanket statements.

    • @KE5ZZO
      @KE5ZZO Рік тому +8

      @@mytech6779 turbo on - normal speed
      Turbo off - run slower so old games would run at a normal speed ie. Pac-Man you do not want the ghosts to have super speed around the maze

    • @GoldenCroc
      @GoldenCroc Рік тому +1

      Great video as always dude, cant say anything but that this settles any reasonable debate about the "turbo button", except for maybe semantic arguments. But the technical side should now be crystal clear to most who has seen this video.
      Again, big thanks, these are the kind of videos we need more of.

    • @sickregret
      @sickregret Рік тому +4

      I thought I was going crazy lol

  • @sapincher
    @sapincher Рік тому +856

    you have an extremely good narrator voice and you have clearly worked hard to remove all verbal pauses . i like your voice a lot, please don't make me listen to TTS again

    • @ac3d657
      @ac3d657 Рік тому +32

      Jordan Peterson mixed with Kermit

    • @Matt-hc1fi
      @Matt-hc1fi Рік тому +18

      He sounds like a friend but older.

    • @bizzzzzzle
      @bizzzzzzle Рік тому +15

      @@ac3d657 people always say Jorden Peterson sounds like Kermit….. this guy sounds like him WITHOUT the kermit

    • @supercompooper
      @supercompooper Рік тому +1

      @@bizzzzzzle Tastes great less filling 🥧🍰🙂

    • @sapincher
      @sapincher Рік тому +3

      @@bizzzzzzle I don't know this jordan peterson guy but I would pay VWestlife like $20 to do a cover of rainbow connection

  • @ihateevilbill
    @ihateevilbill Рік тому +204

    Yup. I was always confused when UA-camrs said that the turbo button, when pushed in, would slow down your machine. I've tried explaining that I would play Wolfenstein on the college pc and the turbo (when on) would run the game much smoother. I was always told to go do my research as it was a known fact that the turbo button slowed your machine down. Even though, like I said, I'd actually lived it XD

    • @Ragnar8504
      @Ragnar8504 Рік тому +13

      @@elemar5 The one in the video does seem to have two sets of contacts, normally open and normally closed, connected to three wires though. In that case, depending on how the switch is plugged in, Turbo mode is either switch pushed in or switch out. Of course that also depends on the board design, whether it expects an open circuit for Turbo mode (like the late 486 and Pentium boards in the video) or closed, like the older boards.
      Regardless, when the LED is on the PC runs faster.

    • @Ragnar8504
      @Ragnar8504 Рік тому +5

      @@elemar5 I haven't built as many PCs but still quite a few, plus I've got a background in electrical engineering.
      How would that work? The average turbo switch was a plain single-pole switch that connected the two wires when depressed and broke the connection when not. Depending on what the board expected, the CPU would behave accordingly. Reversing the connector doesn't change anything, the circuit is either closed or not and whether the button needs to be in or out for closed is mechanically determined and impossible to change without disassembling the switch.

    • @drozcompany4132
      @drozcompany4132 Рік тому +6

      @@elemar5 Sounds like your memory is a bit hazy. It's impossible to just reverse two wires from a switch and have it go from normally open to normally closed. That's why some have 3 wires. Also the LED will not light up in non-turbo mode by reversing it. A diode does not work that way and more importantly, an LED will not illuminate with zero Volts applied to it.

    • @ericm6818
      @ericm6818 Рік тому +4

      My mind also went straight to memories of Wolfenstein in high school. I remember the issue with the button not always being in the same position when the light was on. Turbo was definitely smoother. Good memories.

    • @trevorlambert4226
      @trevorlambert4226 Рік тому +2

      @@Ragnar8504 Regardless of what an "average" (guessing you meant "typical") turbo switch might be, there were switches that could be installed two ways. Since you've got a background in electrical engineering, you clearly didn't actually watch the video, or you'd know exactly how it would work. The switch in the example machine had three wires, in other words it was a dual throw switch. No reversing of the connector, changing which of the three pins of the connecter connect to the two pins on the board.

  • @flapjack9495
    @flapjack9495 Рік тому +55

    I somehow managed to be ass-deep in computers through the entire "turbo button" era and never once knew about that keyboard shortcut. I have no idea how I missed that.

    • @gohjohan
      @gohjohan Рік тому +1

      Don't beat yourself over this, flapjack. I didn't know about the keyboard shortcuts until now. I had my PC with a 486 DX mainboard and I know how to use the button on the case, not the keyboard shortcuts. I only started to use keyboard shortcuts when during the internet age, although I was taught the 3 finger salute (ctrl + alt + del) by my former neighbour if I needed to restart the computer.

  • @timcat1004
    @timcat1004 Рік тому +88

    I had my first turbo mode PC in and around 1996. All I ever did was run benchmark tests because I had no other use for a PC. Life was so simple back then.

    • @queenannesrevenge3770
      @queenannesrevenge3770 Рік тому +1

      How much did it cost?

    • @alexmckee4683
      @alexmckee4683 Рік тому +2

      Why did you even have a PC? :-)

    • @timcat1004
      @timcat1004 Рік тому +2

      @@queenannesrevenge3770 $3,500 Cad

    • @timcat1004
      @timcat1004 Рік тому +4

      @@alexmckee4683 Had to keep up with the Jones.

    • @mdb45424
      @mdb45424 Рік тому +2

      I remember my first pc in 1990s. Odd design back then but guess they were aim at offices

  • @ZanaGBYT
    @ZanaGBYT Рік тому +333

    This version is certainly better than the original upload. Using the TTS may have been a time constraint, but honestly, your voice works much better for narration.

    • @rylibrace1276
      @rylibrace1276 Рік тому +4

      @@jfrarex get a life

    • @ruk2023--
      @ruk2023-- Рік тому +1

      Which TTS was used? Something like eleven labs AI TTS is hard to tell from a human. It didn't exist when this video was originally created though.

  • @thestarshavefallen
    @thestarshavefallen Рік тому +8

    I honestly never knew the turbo button was even a mystery. Thought this was basic knowledge for anyone who grew up in the 90s

    • @kc5402
      @kc5402 6 місяців тому

      Correct.

  • @ruk2023--
    @ruk2023-- Рік тому +2

    I was around when the turbo button was used in anger :-) Some early software couldn't run past 8mhz without problems and the turbo button allowed the computer to be slowed down to accommodate that software. Turbo was a marketing term to explain backwards compatibility.

  • @GronTheMighty
    @GronTheMighty Рік тому +4

    My dad used to turn the turbo mode on when he was doing work in Lotus123.. I told him it didn't do anything for that, but he was sure it made him work faster - not the software, him, hisself.
    I'm glad PCs grew out of that phase - the last 3 PCs I've built for him and my mom over the years since the early days were excellent for their needs, and the only complaints they ever had was that they had to get used to the desktop resolution making things look 'too good', and 'not blocky enough', and occasionally they would accidentally 'delete a program' by which they meant they deleted the desktop shortcut. :p

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 5 місяців тому +2

      And yet we still find occasional games where parts of the logic are dependent on framerate. Which means some developers spend 40 years and still haven't noticed that different people have different systems with different performance.

    • @plumjet0930
      @plumjet0930 4 місяці тому

      I’m just wondering how he thought pressing a button on a computer would make him work
      faster

    • @GronTheMighty
      @GronTheMighty 4 місяці тому

      @@plumjet0930 Well, it may have something to do with being young and goin' wild during the 60s and 70s when LSD and the hippie thing was raging, but I honestly don't know either.

  • @8_Bit
    @8_Bit Рік тому +40

    Only 10 seconds longer for the authentic VWestlife narration. I've got an extra 10 seconds for you any day :)

  • @ATomRileyA
    @ATomRileyA Рік тому +75

    Also in the 80s anything with turbo on it instantly made it better in the minds of people in the 80s, you could get some Turbo sunglasses or a Turbo vacuum :)
    Great video btw, liked your voice in the video also.

    • @catsaregovernmentspies
      @catsaregovernmentspies Рік тому +9

      Just like how in the 90s everything got a "2000" added to it to sound advanced and futuristic.

    • @frosthoe
      @frosthoe Рік тому +1

      Lol I remember "Turbo Black" paint. Ed Mcman announcer voice>>>
      Guaranteed to make your car more efficient. Everyone knows! Black is the fastest color. Now we at our cutting edge labs in So Cal. "2001 tech unlimited" have gone and Turbo'd the color black for double the performance ! "Turbo Black paint" for the discerning enthusiast. Leave em in the dust, and asking..
      Guy on street>>> Hey buddie! ..How dooo yooou doooo it? Im so lame and small , your super cool! You are MEGA cool and fast, its like dark lightning burning my eyes! Announcer...always leave em wondering Wink! TurbOOOO ! BLLLLAAAACK! The mans, mans, man, knows!

    • @niclaskarlin
      @niclaskarlin Рік тому +2

      A turbo vacuum is at least a bit closer to what an actual turbo is about.

    • @rum-ham
      @rum-ham Рік тому

      Lol turbo sunglasses. I imagine they would look like Tom Cruise Top Gun glasses with a button on the side 😂

    • @teebob21
      @teebob21 Рік тому

      @@catsaregovernmentspies dat Gateway doe

  • @SylvesterAshcroft88
    @SylvesterAshcroft88 Рік тому +86

    I've never been so happy to hear your voice since subbing to this channel, the TTS voice was nice, but it reminded me of those old pc commercials from the 90's, thank you for uploading another version with your own voiceover, it's much appreciated!

  • @Madness832
    @Madness832 Рік тому +22

    Had a 486 clone, about 30 years ago. And my turbo button was active when pushed in. And I compared it by turnin' it on and off while runnin' a screensaver. The difference was usually readily apparent.

    • @stefanforrer2573
      @stefanforrer2573 Рік тому

      my 486 had a simple button with no locking function, luckily the case had a built in led panel displaying the current clock speed

    • @anotherworldanothertime7717
      @anotherworldanothertime7717 Рік тому

      We had a 486 too and I remeber it was going from 8Mhz to 40Mhz with turbo mode enabled.

  • @cedonullidude
    @cedonullidude Рік тому +15

    Turbo mode button reminds me of the amplifier dial that goes to 11 in the Spinal Tap movie, where the narrator says why don’t you just make the 10 louder and use a 10 selector dial.

  • @lmaoroflcopter
    @lmaoroflcopter Рік тому +115

    Love your voice as a narrator, you have a unique sound and accent that lends itself really well to it.

  • @charliecharliewhiskey9403
    @charliecharliewhiskey9403 Рік тому +36

    "Proves" can be used in sentences such as "it proves fun", meaning "it turned out to be fun" or "it reveals itself to be fun", so I think what they were saying was "When you do this, it reveals itself to be (an unsurpassed) 60% faster machine than others".
    So rather than being a mistake, it's probably just a bit of outdated grammar.

    • @USSMariner
      @USSMariner Рік тому

      Interesting, I wonder when that change occurred

  • @key4338
    @key4338 Рік тому +52

    i prefer your voice to the tts but honestly great job for listening to everyone and remaking the video even when you didnt have to just for your fans. this is my first time watching but it seems like you really care about you community and im excited to become a part of it

  • @RuntotheMovies
    @RuntotheMovies Рік тому +5

    In the mid 90s, at my office we had PCs that, instead of a light for the Turbo button, had a small display that showed "HI" and "LO" for speed. A couple of people at my office argued back and forth about which one was faster, "H1" or "L0" and were astounded when I told them that it was shorthand for "High" and "Low."

    • @rs12official
      @rs12official 28 днів тому

      I guess they had never used a fan or heater in their lives to not know that!

  • @elektrokinesis4150
    @elektrokinesis4150 Рік тому +6

    why is this video coming back after 4 months?

    • @lunamonkey
      @lunamonkey Рік тому +1

      It wasn't "re-uploaded" it was uploaded as unlisted 4 months ago (linked to from the Text to speech version), and then this narrated version was made public 14th Feb.

  • @mstover2809
    @mstover2809 Рік тому +15

    To make things MORE confusing, on cases with the "speed" display, often times there was NOT a Turbo LED. SO, IF you reversed the 3-wire connector but had the button pressed in, it would show the Turbo Speed, but would actually be running at the slower, non-turbo speed. I had to correct quite a few customer builds because they had the connector backwards!

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Рік тому +1

      imagine your modern computer had a turbo button you hit it and windows crashes🤣

    • @falcon-ng6sd
      @falcon-ng6sd Рік тому

      @@raven4k998 Funny how PCs went from no speed control to 2-stage speed control to a whole range of possible speeds with software control!

  • @chalo3428
    @chalo3428 Рік тому +9

    I like how he explains what he is doing because I cannot see but I could imagine what he’s doing. I was born in 1984, so I really don’t know much of those old computers but I do know a lot about Windows 95 and up.

  • @jessk1720
    @jessk1720 Рік тому +2

    Yay! Thank you for uploading this video with your narration, always love to have your videos in the background and the TTS was a bit off.

  • @wyohman00
    @wyohman00 Рік тому +6

    Thank goodness you FINALLY solved the mystery. I don't know I was thinking when I read about this in my computer manual or my PC Magazine subscription in the 80s. Thank you again for your hard work bringing this back our attention.

  • @johns1625
    @johns1625 Рік тому +8

    My first family PC was running Windows 95 and had the lock key and the turbo button. I remember the Turbo button would make the machine noticibly louder, so I had always assumed it just sped up the fans to cool the CPU better. This was back in the day with those giant hard disk ribbon cables and case ventilation was basically a meme. 😂😂

    • @HarryBalzak
      @HarryBalzak Рік тому +3

      I am remembering the sound of those tiny case fans. They sounded like a Cessna taking off at 100 yards.

  • @robertkalclus9892
    @robertkalclus9892 Рік тому +1

    You bring out a lot of old memories from back then. Thanks for this video great explanation of the turbo function and some older pc's in general. 👍

  • @pongusikya
    @pongusikya Рік тому +5

    Haven't thought about that 3 wire turbo button connector for years! Great memories, great channel 👍

  • @qbertguy
    @qbertguy Рік тому +3

    I swore I saw this video once already but then I realized you went back and read the narration in the first portion. Hey this was a good video so it was worth another watch

  • @wallacewilliams535
    @wallacewilliams535 Рік тому +2

    thank you very much for oponing my eyes to this ancient mystery!
    (excellent video.)

  • @TheComputerGuy96
    @TheComputerGuy96 Рік тому +23

    I didn't hate the text to speech voice (especially since it was only one part of the video), but your actual voice is certainly better!

  • @skoronesa1
    @skoronesa1 Рік тому +9

    Thank you for uploading this with your own voice. I couldn't stand that other one.

  • @RAWestover
    @RAWestover Рік тому +2

    What a walk down memory lane - thanks so much for publishing this.

  • @liamthebull
    @liamthebull Рік тому +1

    Excellent video. Very well put-together and succinctly narrated.

  • @mariemccann5895
    @mariemccann5895 Рік тому

    I don't know why I watched this as it just confirms what I probably knew 30 years ago but had forgotten and there is now no need to know this information. It is a good video and entertaining for some strange reason, maybe because it confirms I once knew what I doing. Keep up the good work!

  • @casualretrocollector
    @casualretrocollector Рік тому +1

    Brillant reupload Kevin. Last one was fine but always better when your voice is heard :). Informative, funny , unpretentious and direct. Perfect combo. 👌

  • @Ragnar8504
    @Ragnar8504 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the various benchmarks! Back when 486s were actually still in use I was led to believe that the button only changed the CPU speeds on 8086/8088 machines or possibly 286s. On later machines it just did things like deactivating the cache or coprocessor, or so I was told. Learned something new today!

  • @christophernunez6802
    @christophernunez6802 Рік тому +1

    Great job man! Thank you, sincerely. I'm embrarrassed my intense autodidactic curiosty failed to motivate me to answer this question on my own in 1989. Feels great to get closure to something I forgot I always wanted to know.

  • @wickedwilliwonka
    @wickedwilliwonka Рік тому +2

    7:33 Thank you so much for clearing this up! I had a Compaq 386 25Mhz in 1992 which included the LED indicator, but it always puzzled me that when pushing the button the PC actually slowed down. Sometimes it just takes 30+ years to solve a mistery!

  • @mikemasiello9625
    @mikemasiello9625 10 місяців тому +1

    Always a good day to hear the 8088 processor mentioned. Brings back a lot of memories from Community College computer lab in the mid 80s. Thanks for the videos.

  • @iamdarkyoshi
    @iamdarkyoshi Рік тому +1

    Well worth the re-up. Your narration matches these machines very nicely.

    • @lunamonkey
      @lunamonkey Рік тому

      It wasn't "re-uploaded" it was uploaded as unlisted 4 months ago, and then made public 14th Feb.

  • @mattfoxlikesretro
    @mattfoxlikesretro Рік тому +29

    My 486 turbo button only had 2 pins, and the motherboard defaulted to "fast" mode. Without the button connected at all, the computer would run at full speed no matter what. With the turbo button connected and pressed in, it would slow down, and this would happen regardless of the orientation of the connector on the header. Maybe it varies computer by computer, but that's how mine is set up, and there is literally no way to configure the turbo button to make the computer faster, the ONLY option for my machine is for the turbo button to slow down the computer

    • @RacerX-
      @RacerX- Рік тому +10

      This is exactly the problem we had in the early 90s when I did PC support and new PC builds. We always preferred the Turbo button to be pushed in for Turbo mode and that was the default except when we had motherboards like you mentioned. In those situations we wished the cases said Turbo Off. We provided labels if the customer wanted to change what the case said.

    • @Tomas_Stec
      @Tomas_Stec Рік тому +4

      It's the issue of the combination of the case (button) and the motherboard. The whole point of three-wire setup as was shown in the video is that one pair of wires works as "normaly open" and the other pair of wires works as "normaly closed" - that way you could simply choose by moving that connector one pin to the left or right.
      However when you have case that has a "normaly open" button and motherboard that is set-up so that open = turbo, then yes, pressing the turbo button (closing it) will switch the motherboard to slow mode. You would have to replace the actual switch in the case for a "normaly closed" one. Or maybe there is an unused pin on that switch that acts as a "normaly closed" pin, so it would be enough to resolder the cable on that end (or move the wire, if there is pin header on that end as well).

    • @Ragnar8504
      @Ragnar8504 Рік тому

      @@Tomas_Stec Yeah but the one thing you can't do is make the PC run slower when the LED is on (and that wouldn't make any sense anyway, turbo suggests higher speeds). It might simply be a poor choice of words for expressing the fact that turbo mode was indeed the default speed of the CPU and disengaging it made the computer run slower though. Or someone put it like that and someone else misunderstood it.

    • @Tomas_Stec
      @Tomas_Stec Рік тому +1

      @@Ragnar8504 One NOT gate + some stable voltage which you can steal from the "power on" LED and you can have the turbo LED working inversely. OK, it's a bunch of additional components.

    • @Ragnar8504
      @Ragnar8504 Рік тому

      @@Tomas_Stec Of course it can be done. Not without careful planning and a bunch of extra parts though, not something that's likely to be done building a simple standard PC.

  • @ikanpar1
    @ikanpar1 Рік тому

    I am amazed that your old PC collection (I actually used some of those way back then :)) is in very good and working condition, but you still have the printed manual for the motherboard! I would be glad to have such collection!

  • @chrisbosley7095
    @chrisbosley7095 Рік тому

    Thanks for the link - the video with your real voice is much more pleasurable!

  • @indiglowpufferfish1002
    @indiglowpufferfish1002 Рік тому

    Thankyou, so much! This is so very much appreciated.

  • @masterphoenixpraha
    @masterphoenixpraha Рік тому +37

    My only issue with the TURBO buttons was that they were dangerously close to the RESET button on many cases... Means that when one thought he can just get down to the tower case hidden under the table and push it by memory... ooops... there it was 🙂

    • @ksavage681
      @ksavage681 Рік тому +4

      That's why we left the reset button unplugged from the main board. You can always do ctrl alt del or power switch if you need to reset.

    • @jackalopewright5343
      @jackalopewright5343 Рік тому +2

      Remember the old System 7 Macs from the early 90s? Macs did not have a floppy disk eject button. But they put the damn power button right next to the floppy disk slot. Many unfortunate outcomes from that.

    • @sgtjonson
      @sgtjonson Рік тому

      I love the idea of people being like "yeah... time for Turbo! Damn it!! No! Not reset!"

    • @bmw9616
      @bmw9616 Рік тому

      One time my reset button got stuck in. I couldn't figure out why my pc wouldn't turn on or do anything at all for a good 20 minutes 😂

  • @kijar
    @kijar Рік тому +1

    Yeah, someone pointed the narration voice. That’s part of the appeal of this channel. Kudos as always🎉

  • @AcmeRacing
    @AcmeRacing Рік тому +1

    I worked for an HP dealer when the 80486 machines came out. The ad campaign featured HP Vectra computers with stickers all over them like Grand National race cars.

  • @dougtaylor7724
    @dougtaylor7724 Рік тому +8

    I remember the first computer I saw with a turbo button. Back then most computers booted to DOS and a menu came up first. From there you selected a program or windows if that was installed. Most machines struggled to boot WORD in less that 20 seconds. The first time we booted WORD with the turbo button in the thing loaded in 3-4 seconds. I thought how do they make them so fast. It’s funny to think of that now.

    • @joeld.k.7652
      @joeld.k.7652 11 місяців тому

      Hilariously Word takes me 10-15 seconds to boot up with my modern laptop.

  • @Flopster101
    @Flopster101 Рік тому +6

    I'm glad you made this version available to us. Until I watched the TTS version I didn't realize that your voice is a big part of what gets me engaged with these videos :)

  • @m1k3e
    @m1k3e Рік тому +2

    My first computer, a Magitronic XT clone, had a blue turbo button on the front. Made playing Digger and Ribit (in your video!) much easier 😁 Excellent video! 👏

  • @bradlevantis913
    @bradlevantis913 Рік тому

    What a flash back. Love it. Thanks

  • @ongwy66
    @ongwy66 Рік тому

    Watching your videos about all these PCs from the 80s and 90s brought back happy memories. ☺️

  • @Nelson_.A
    @Nelson_.A Рік тому

    You even had a clip of MuchMusic Video on Trial here. Certainly a blast from the past. That was a good show.

  • @travisphillips934
    @travisphillips934 Рік тому +10

    Regardless of how the button is configured I always considered the turbo button as a means to slow down the computer because with turbo enabled the CPU is simply running at its designed speed. Disabling the button was to slow down the computer to resolve issues. If the turbo button were designed to overclock the CPU or to enable another piece of hardware like a coprocessor or something then I would have considered it to be an actual turbo button to speed up the computer.
    I feel like the turbo button is more akin to a button in your car that would turn a governor on and off for the engine rather than a button that would toggle the boost from a turbo on and off. I just think the button was poorly named.

  • @jas1007
    @jas1007 Рік тому

    Our first computer was a 386 that had a turbo that bumped it up from 20 to 25 Mhz. We typically pressed it the same time we pressed the power button to boot the computer up and never really thought about what it did. Thanks for the video.

  • @tengkusulaiman
    @tengkusulaiman Рік тому

    The only channel that covers most of my hobbies. Computing, audio video, electronics. I hope u do on motorcycle review soon.

  • @Narayan_1996
    @Narayan_1996 Рік тому

    This is a much needed video. You must watch it. ☺♥

  • @Tomas_Stec
    @Tomas_Stec Рік тому +3

    One thing to add: When the case had those 7-segment displays, what was shown on those was configured by… A pin header and bunch of jumpers on the backside of that display. So with a manual for the case, or just with a bit of experimentation, your 33-MHz 386SX could show 99, PC, FU, or whatever else you could think of with that 14 segments. (Well, maybe some cases had it hard-wired, but this was the situation with our first PC at home.)

  • @ceddyharris6340
    @ceddyharris6340 Рік тому +10

    I had that exact model Gateway. It was a really solid computer at the time. It defaulted to turbo and I basically never turned it off.

  • @endgovernmentextremism
    @endgovernmentextremism Рік тому

    Yeah, our first PC was noticeably faster with the turbo mode on. It was never in question in our household. Great upload, thanks! Looking forward to more.

  • @seijirou302
    @seijirou302 Рік тому

    Wow those sounds brought back some memories, lol. Never knew about the keyboard combination to toggle the turbo mode.

  • @ColdRFusion
    @ColdRFusion Рік тому +3

    This REALLY needed to be done, so many crossed wires on the subject!

  • @fireconvoy2301
    @fireconvoy2301 Рік тому +1

    Absolutely good video 🔥

  • @BeerAndWarcraft
    @BeerAndWarcraft Рік тому +1

    I love this channel!

  • @mikedrz
    @mikedrz Рік тому +1

    I remember watching that creed clip on tv when it originally aired. That's how I know i'm getting old.

  • @TommyViper
    @TommyViper Рік тому +2

    Great history lesson! Glad to know just exactly what this button did.

  • @coondogtheman
    @coondogtheman Рік тому +1

    Back in the mid 90s I used the Zenith Z-148 PC for practicing my typing with typing tutor IV program.
    The one I used at the time had the internal hard drive instead of the additional 5.25 floppy drive.

  • @aviphysics
    @aviphysics Рік тому +2

    Thanks. I thought I remembered it working the way you show it does.

  • @janakakumara3836
    @janakakumara3836 Рік тому

    I love how you added a retro 80s style to this video, to emphasize the point... very artistic.

  • @JessHull
    @JessHull Рік тому +8

    I'm so glad you made this video, and with actual contemporary references to what the turbo button is actually supposed to do. I've had this discussion with several people in my club and they always take out their phone and point to some "doggone" Gizmodo like article saying turbo button "aaaccckkktttuuullly" slows it down. The funny thing is the people that are telling me this are so much younger than me and have likely never even owned or used a computer that had one. Well I have owned and used turbo mode computers and all of the ones I had (I had 4 computers that had them) the turbo mode switch was correctly wired to speed up the computer when activated by a button press using ones middle finger. Its likely more commonly pressed with an index finger. But I would routinely use my middle finger to press the turbo mode activating button as my middle finger is the longest of my fingers and the position of the button on most of the computers I had was such that using my longest finger, the middle one, was the most sensible finger to use.

    • @dmac1259
      @dmac1259 Рік тому

      The "turbo" button is a limiter. You're not enabling turbo when you press it, you are disabling a limiter. Meaning that the only purpose of the turbo button was to give you the ability to make your computer run slower. The turbo button is for slowing down your computer.

  • @pcuser80
    @pcuser80 Рік тому +2

    I had my Turbodisplay hooked on my HDD indicator. Set the jumpers to read Hd on the display and -- for idle. Nice fancy effect.

  • @dryjakiew
    @dryjakiew Рік тому +5

    you have a good voice for videos!! don't waste it on TTS!!

  • @xDJxGNOMx
    @xDJxGNOMx Рік тому +1

    I am so glad i subscribed to your channel! I've seen this numerous times especially on wikipedia that information was either plain wrong or faulty. While knowing very well in the back of my head that i've read something different years ago in a magazine or manual. Of course some magazines were also wrong or published rumours and hearsay but seeing multiple manuals and then something very different on wikipedia is just questionable. Also made me think about the "toaster incident" on wikipedia.

  • @pirobot668beta
    @pirobot668beta Рік тому

    PC builder since 1977:
    Hard-drives weren't as peppy or reliable as one may want.
    Some drives worked best within a narrow range of temperature, or only in certain orientations.
    A 'warm-up interval' with several attempts to Boot was just a thing we all expected to do in the morning.
    Maybe it was the surplus drives we were using?
    Turbo allowed better 'fit' between MOBO speeds, drives and driver controller(s).
    Booting was a fine art for many years, and sometimes slowing down was the only way to maintain stability.

  • @JoeyJoJoJrShabbado
    @JoeyJoJoJrShabbado Рік тому

    I can confirm this.
    Great video, can’t believe I remember.

  • @joemoritz1545
    @joemoritz1545 Рік тому

    This video is the best. great job

  • @AMDRADEONRUBY
    @AMDRADEONRUBY Рік тому +1

    Oh nice a updated video! Anyways I always likes videos about old computers

  • @megan00b8
    @megan00b8 10 місяців тому +1

    I have this old keyboard that needs two adapters to use with my new PC, and it has a Turbo button in the middle of the arrows. The eight arrows. Yeah, it has diagonals. I love that thing.

  • @TanukiDigital
    @TanukiDigital Рік тому +1

    Those startup sounds are so nostalgic.

  • @sSQNnify
    @sSQNnify Рік тому

    "the book"
    I love that sentence:D
    Thanks for that great info.
    Once upon a time, being a kid, I also had PC with turbo, but I was always jealous of my friend who also had such BUT including the speed indicator:)

  • @cbygelightbulb
    @cbygelightbulb Рік тому

    I appreciate that the wikipedia article for the turbo button is correct now, and it links to that Intel datasheet for citation.

  • @jhonbus
    @jhonbus Рік тому

    "It doesn't speed up your PC if you press it, it slows it down if you _don't_ press it" is a very good way of putting it!
    It should never have been called turbo in the first place, it should have been called "Slow mode" or something and worked accordingly.

  • @laynesamba
    @laynesamba Рік тому +6

    I appreciate this so much I watched the video again

  • @ENGINERESCUE86
    @ENGINERESCUE86 10 місяців тому +1

    Anyone else love the transition sound? Because it's perfect

  • @Ange1ofD4rkness
    @Ange1ofD4rkness Рік тому +1

    As a kid, I was always curious the purpose of said button, now I finally know (course back then I wouldn't have understood it even if I did hear this). I also remember that CPU number display. I loved seeing that and always wanted it on my computer, because it looked cool

  • @michaeleccher4068
    @michaeleccher4068 Рік тому

    I think you just relieved a headache I suppressed 30 years ago! 😂😂😂

  • @georgemaragos2378
    @georgemaragos2378 Рік тому +2

    Hi, another great video
    This is like the black magic of computers, being old enough to have purchased C64 new and every other computer almost every second year, then a life time of PC upgrades
    I explain to people at the time many games or software was speed sensitive, with 286/386/496 you have the option to slow back to stock XT 4.77m
    Nortons info is good, but so it making them play frogger !!
    I explain wired correctly your fast machine is full time turbo or fast on , only when you want it to slow down it is turbo off or slow
    The first machine that did not have the turbo connector on the mother board was a Pentium 100
    Regards
    George

  • @Chyrosran22
    @Chyrosran22 Рік тому +7

    This is definitely a lot better, dude :) .

  • @SmoothEmJay
    @SmoothEmJay Рік тому +9

    Yet again, another successful debunk. Well done sir! gotta love it when you put the so-called "know it all" channels in their place.

    • @dmac1259
      @dmac1259 Рік тому

      What are you talkin about? He didn't debunk anything. It's all a marketing spin. The Turbo System was an artificial limiter that slowed your computer down until you press the button or hit the key command to remove the limiter. While you were told you were turning on turbo you were actually turning off the limiter. That means the only purpose of the Turbo System was to be able to make your computer run slower.

    • @SmoothEmJay
      @SmoothEmJay Рік тому

      @@dmac1259 😴 other UA-camrs have said the opposite for a long ass time, this corrects those people and therefore debunks the crap they're saying to their followers. I watched the video. I understood what the button was for before watching. What I didn't need was you being hostile for zero reason. 🙄

    • @Sammysapphira
      @Sammysapphira Рік тому

      He didn't debunk it at all. He says around 16:00 that the purpose of the turbo button was to slow down the cpu because when it's off your cpu runs slower. It's a combination of marketing and also compatability with games that ran off of clock spees.

  • @Alacritous
    @Alacritous Рік тому +11

    Yes. Because a lot of software used the CPU itself to limit their processing speed, running at full tilt at the max speed of the processor with no software speed management for whatever processing the program did. hitting the turbo button didn't speed up your computer, it slowed it down. I remember playing with the turbo button on my PC clone and the game Robotron. In slow mode, the game ran properly. At high speed, you'd start the game and the robots would just blink to the middle of the screen and you were dead.

  • @paulstubbs7678
    @paulstubbs7678 Рік тому +1

    I remember those early el-cheapo imported 8MHz mother boards, so many were dodgy and crashed/freezed frequently. If you wanted to do serious work (as opposed to playing games) you were better off in non turbo mode.
    Luckily they eventually got their act together with reliable fast boards.

  • @iiiDartsiii
    @iiiDartsiii Рік тому

    and then I learned about it 25 years later, amazing.

  • @neilneilsexappeal
    @neilneilsexappeal Рік тому

    On every PC I had with a turbo buton they had LED's. And thank you for a brilliant video

  • @davel4030
    @davel4030 12 днів тому +1

    Lol my grandma used to tell me never to press the turbo button or it would burn up the computer. I just facepalmed and said "that's not how it works.... It's for older apps"
    Depends on how the button is configured but usually it did slow the machine down when pressed in.

  • @Hclann1
    @Hclann1 Рік тому

    Man that brings back memories and so many hours learning and building. All obsolete info now.

  • @asicdathens
    @asicdathens Рік тому +1

    I had both a 8088 and a 80286 PC's in the VERY old days. Many games and apps made for XT's were unplayable or unusable on 286's because what you saw was blurred lines or objects by running too fast. Especially the CRT's of the day with primitive phosphors the problem was even worse because it took more time to stop glowing. The turbo button changed the clock to 4.77 MHz . When EISA and PCI buses were introduced you could not change the clock speed that easy

  • @kl0wnkiller912
    @kl0wnkiller912 Рік тому +1

    I remember the first PC I had (not including Commodores and Atari XLs, I had a few of those) was an 80286 that I assembled myself. I remember that it had a 4 color graphics and I thought that was awesome! I never really noticed a lot of difference when the turbo was in or out. I built just about every version of PC up to the newest Gen 12 PC that I currently have. I think I still have an IBM 8086 in the attic, along with a Timex Sinclair, still in the original packaging.

  • @TSteffi
    @TSteffi 9 місяців тому

    I have a DOS PC with a K6-2 on it. The mainboard has jumpers to set the CPU frequency, but no turbo connector. So I did a bit of testing, and found a good jumper to put the turbo button on. It now actually switches the CPU clock to either 300MHz or 550 MHz.

  • @thelocustemperor
    @thelocustemperor 11 місяців тому +1

    "IT'S CALLED A BOOK" Well said!

  • @Caseytify
    @Caseytify Рік тому +1

    My first turbo system was an 8Mz XT clone. When I had the money I bought a full sized tower for a 286 system that ran at a whopping 16Mz, including a two digit LED speed readout. Who would ever need three digits!?
    By that time most if not all motherboards let you configure the system to start up in high speed mode if you wished. There was no actual detection of actual system speed; you had to set the LED panel for hi & low speeds yourself.
    I had that tower for a long time; upgraded to a 386sx-20, then a 486dx2-66. By the time I passed 99Mz, I had to buy an ATX case for the hardware. Readouts were rare for ATX systems.

  • @BrassicGamer
    @BrassicGamer Рік тому +1

    Well I missed the original version of this so I appreciate this upload. I was less bothered by the turbo function itself than I was by the fact that the switch had 3 wires while the header only had 2! So you've cleared that up for me. The question I was really hoping to see answered is what factor the turbo function in-/de-creases the speed by. There's a clue at the end in that it's a function of the CPU itself, but I would love to know whether non-turbo is absolute or relative. I've got enough CPUs that I can find out for myself, so you've inspired me to do so.

    • @treelineresearch3387
      @treelineresearch3387 Рік тому +1

      Answer is really just it depends on the hardware, the 486 SLC with a turbo control line and internal divider mentioned in the video is a late model 486, earlier ones relied on external hardware (an ASIC chipset by the 386 era) dividing the CPU clock and it was entirely up to the chipset vendor to choose the division factor. Could have been jumper selectable or programmable on some boards too, but I'd wager it was almost always some power of 2 (÷2, ÷4, ÷8, ÷16, etc) because you can get it just by chaining flip-flops rather than having to use something like a PLL.

    • @Mahashma
      @Mahashma Рік тому +1

      @18:40 or thereabouts, the Intel datasheet specifies 1/4 or 1/8 clock speeds (depending on the manufacturer, I assume.)

    • @BrassicGamer
      @BrassicGamer Рік тому +1

      @@Mahashma great info, thanks! Gonna do some of my own tests on this as well.