cause it felt like the other autocasts were blocking wolves from casting it, therefore i wouldnt be able to hit it at relevant times, if i recall correctly
@@Bogpillz well, my mate does manually cast it and it seems to work for him, but for me it always felt like they casted it too delayed to interrupt anything, so i didnt bother. may as well just be me being bad, while my mate plays at 2.4k mmr xd
it's basically enhancer but with spellpower wep mainhand(like preg pala) and instead of windfury it uses flametongue x2 on both weapons. and lightning shield glyph. minor talent changes, but beyond that, it's like regular enhancer with much more spellpower for damage/healing :)
Any reason you don't run points in Reverberation? As well, as to the glyphs you chose - is there any reason you'd swap any? Such as for stoneclaw, etc?
with a pregs heals and ur own heals, since u have over 3k spellpower + over 30% spellcrit, u dont really need stoneclaw most of the time. lightning shield is easily ur highest source of damage vs melees, since it scales really well with spellpower and they constantly procc it, therefore u wanna run that glyph. in short games, wolves are often times ur top damage though and the more damage they deal=the more they heal u, so that glyph is too strong not to run, too. and flame tongue crit chance stacks - at least on warmane - so that glyph offensive and defensive is very good. dont think it's worth changing for other glyphs, but u could do some playtesting and see what works best for u, since it always depends on what comp u run and what matchups u face alot. those 3 felt the strongest to me. regarding reverberation, it's simply that i considered other talents more important. in theory the root talent for frost shock is really nice to have, too, but for both talents i dont have spare points with my priorities, but ofc u can play around a little n make cuts here n there to pick some others up :) also, vs spriest/mage for example i switch to an atk power weapon with windfury on, but in all mail and above armor matchups flametongue is just the better source of damage. and even in leather matchups i usually keep flametongue, since rogues with evasion or ferals with their default 50%++ dodge rate arent great windfury targets. also used to run ikfirus HC for expertise on top of ur talents, which sounded absurd in pvp in the beginning, but it does help vs parries/blocks/dodges which lower ur damage considerably and keep ur from gaining maelstrom stacks to hex/heal or even bolt them. but since having hc cloak+neck+shoulders, i couldnt afford ikfirus resil-wise and i dont think running offset parts s8 to use ikfirus is better than running set slot s8 with HC offparts, just like most classes. edit: hope this helped n didnt go too far off-topic. if there's anything else, let me know, i'll try to answer whenever i can :)
depends on the comp u play and the comps u are facing, but spellhancer is easier imo and can push just as high as long as u have a preg as ur teammate. tremor constantly dispells slows, pala can spam dispell u guys, u can spam purge shields/hots etc each global while still keeping up pressure from auto attacks, unlike casters that drop damage while purging. in 3s ele is prolly better and if u dont have a preg to play with, ele is certainly better :P
spellhancer is effecively an enhancer that uses flametongue weapon for the spellpower buff alongside spellpower weapons to increase spelldamage and healing done(u do ~14k healing wave crits at instant speed w/o MS on). moreover it increases ur spell-crit, if u glyph it and that stacks(at least on warmane), so u get x2 the glyphs effect, stronger heals/shocks with higher critchance etc. the on-hit fire damage of flametongue also helps dealing with plates. and the spellpower scaling of ur lightning shield, which melees cant really avoid,. talent buffs + 20% from glyph alongside mentioned spellpower make lightning shield easily ur highest damage against melees. being nature damage also helps it go through all kind of armors without having to worry about ur nearly non-exsisting ARP as regular enhancer.
@@projectphyrexia Mind to post your armory or some sort of written guide/explanation of that build ? literally yesterday the arena season on warmane did reset. My buddy and meplay a handful of different chars and always look to play something fun before we push the boring Hpal/war again on mains. thought about preg feral but this seems fun aswell! Edit: i kinda get what you said above, but idk which type of spellweapons you want to wear (i imagine simulare to preg just with 2x 1H instead of Shield) and if there is a certant talent build you want to go for
@@Willowplesure u can search for this char on armory. i still have the talents and glyphs for spellhancer on. cant link it however, as youtube keeps removing comments in which i include links. i run wrathful mace for mainhand and kele's seducer for offhand, as i dont have the LK HC weapons, cause except for 1 wep i didnt donate any of my hc gear or gear in general and play on icecrown, so i cant just push 2050 and buy them haha. well and i also got ninjad alot. if u have LK weapons, u run havocs OH and the spellpower mace MH(cant recall its name). if there's anything else besides talents and gear, lmk. i'll try to reply soon. also i used to run HC ikfirus for the expertise since blocks/parries not only lower ur damage alot, but also lower the odds/pace of gaining maelstrom stacks. ended up having to change back to s8 due to resil however. aaaaaand just as a heads up, if u wanna play something fun and u guys have a rogue and resto shami, u can go hybrid rogue/resto. that shit's fun, too. has a hard time vs ranged CC comps, but u can just check it out on the phyrexia channel. also, if u are on icecrown, hybrid rogue is one of the easiest builds to get BIS HC gear for, as back+chest+offhand come from gunship and 1 trinket from vendor xD and i cant tell for feral, but alot of things work with preg. i just pushed 1950 last week with my mate as frost mage/preg so we could get the head on both chars b4 season ends. cant tell for higher mmr, never played above 2.1k
I remember playing wrath and thought of a spec like this but never actually did it. Wow should have learned this would have been so much fun. You cant do dual pvp weapon can you?
what do u mean "dual pvp weapon"? u could equip 2 wrathful weapons instead of PVE ones, if that was ur question. lose some DPS and offensive stats, gain some stamina and resil and slot a little more offensive on other parts in return. but ofc HC weapons have higher overall stats than s8 weapons, so u'll always lose some stats. since it's a spell focused build, u should be fine with pvp weapons, since u dont focus on heavy physical damage from windfury
plz check the other comments, i answered this question a couple of times now :P the answer to "klonzol" should answer most, if u still have questions, let me know, i'll try to reply soon :)
yeah, it's just that preg struggles without purges and lightning shield+flame tongue deal reasonable damage to plates. so its not as fun as other classes/comps, but it's decent fun and reasonably strong :)
@@David-hs1bu uhm hard disagree? Which melee has to keep focus on interrupting people from range and also focus on not getting interrupted yourself. You have a huge skill expression with los on a melee which normalöy deosn't require you to have. Managing your totems and lightning shield against people who are generally good and use makros for that is also a huge learning curve. How many melees need to learn to fake cast? Which melee needs to pin point a 15y range to get a snare? Enha is legit THE melee who can't reliably the stick on the target and play pve because he need to be countering each matchup to have a success unlike most melees.
![[WoW: Wotlk] Pushing Spellhancer to 1950](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/l5oOzyactok/mqdefault.jpg)
why don't you macro bash to manually use it?
cause it felt like the other autocasts were blocking wolves from casting it, therefore i wouldnt be able to hit it at relevant times, if i recall correctly
@@projectphyrexia yea after i typed that comment i recalled people on warmane always saying it was bugged
@@Bogpillz well, my mate does manually cast it and it seems to work for him, but for me it always felt like they casted it too delayed to interrupt anything, so i didnt bother.
may as well just be me being bad, while my mate plays at 2.4k mmr xd
Nice!!! do exist any guide of this kind of shaman?
it's basically enhancer but with spellpower wep mainhand(like preg pala) and instead of windfury it uses flametongue x2 on both weapons.
and lightning shield glyph.
minor talent changes, but beyond that, it's like regular enhancer with much more spellpower for damage/healing :)
Any reason you don't run points in Reverberation? As well, as to the glyphs you chose - is there any reason you'd swap any? Such as for stoneclaw, etc?
with a pregs heals and ur own heals, since u have over 3k spellpower + over 30% spellcrit, u dont really need stoneclaw most of the time.
lightning shield is easily ur highest source of damage vs melees, since it scales really well with spellpower and they constantly procc it, therefore u wanna run that glyph.
in short games, wolves are often times ur top damage though and the more damage they deal=the more they heal u, so that glyph is too strong not to run, too.
and flame tongue crit chance stacks - at least on warmane - so that glyph offensive and defensive is very good.
dont think it's worth changing for other glyphs, but u could do some playtesting and see what works best for u, since it always depends on what comp u run and what matchups u face alot.
those 3 felt the strongest to me.
regarding reverberation, it's simply that i considered other talents more important.
in theory the root talent for frost shock is really nice to have, too, but for both talents i dont have spare points with my priorities, but ofc u can play around a little n make cuts here n there to pick some others up :)
also, vs spriest/mage for example i switch to an atk power weapon with windfury on, but in all mail and above armor matchups flametongue is just the better source of damage.
and even in leather matchups i usually keep flametongue, since rogues with evasion or ferals with their default 50%++ dodge rate arent great windfury targets.
also used to run ikfirus HC for expertise on top of ur talents, which sounded absurd in pvp in the beginning, but it does help vs parries/blocks/dodges which lower ur damage considerably and keep ur from gaining maelstrom stacks to hex/heal or even bolt them.
but since having hc cloak+neck+shoulders, i couldnt afford ikfirus resil-wise and i dont think running offset parts s8 to use ikfirus is better than running set slot s8 with HC offparts, just like most classes.
edit: hope this helped n didnt go too far off-topic. if there's anything else, let me know, i'll try to answer whenever i can :)
Would you recommend it to become Gladiator in wotlk Classic or is it easier with ele.
depends on the comp u play and the comps u are facing, but spellhancer is easier imo and can push just as high as long as u have a preg as ur teammate.
tremor constantly dispells slows, pala can spam dispell u guys, u can spam purge shields/hots etc each global while still keeping up pressure from auto attacks, unlike casters that drop damage while purging.
in 3s ele is prolly better and if u dont have a preg to play with, ele is certainly better :P
@@projectphyrexia Alright thank you :) is there a Gladiator title in 2s in wotlk ? And Preg needs much gear so it´s better at the end of wotlk right?
Nice, but what is spellhancer?
spellhancer is effecively an enhancer that uses flametongue weapon for the spellpower buff alongside spellpower weapons to increase spelldamage and healing done(u do ~14k healing wave crits at instant speed w/o MS on).
moreover it increases ur spell-crit, if u glyph it and that stacks(at least on warmane), so u get x2 the glyphs effect, stronger heals/shocks with higher critchance etc.
the on-hit fire damage of flametongue also helps dealing with plates.
and the spellpower scaling of ur lightning shield, which melees cant really avoid,. talent buffs + 20% from glyph alongside mentioned spellpower make lightning shield easily ur highest damage against melees.
being nature damage also helps it go through all kind of armors without having to worry about ur nearly non-exsisting ARP as regular enhancer.
@@projectphyrexia Mind to post your armory or some sort of written guide/explanation of that build ? literally yesterday the arena season on warmane did reset. My buddy and meplay a handful of different chars and always look to play something fun before we push the boring Hpal/war again on mains. thought about preg feral but this seems fun aswell!
Edit: i kinda get what you said above, but idk which type of spellweapons you want to wear (i imagine simulare to preg just with 2x 1H instead of Shield) and if there is a certant talent build you want to go for
@@Willowplesure u can search for this char on armory.
i still have the talents and glyphs for spellhancer on.
cant link it however, as youtube keeps removing comments in which i include links.
i run wrathful mace for mainhand and kele's seducer for offhand, as i dont have the LK HC weapons,
cause except for 1 wep i didnt donate any of my hc gear or gear in general and play on icecrown, so i cant just push 2050 and buy them haha. well and i also got ninjad alot.
if u have LK weapons, u run havocs OH and the spellpower mace MH(cant recall its name).
if there's anything else besides talents and gear, lmk. i'll try to reply soon.
also i used to run HC ikfirus for the expertise since blocks/parries not only lower ur damage alot, but also lower the odds/pace of gaining maelstrom stacks.
ended up having to change back to s8 due to resil however.
aaaaaand just as a heads up, if u wanna play something fun and u guys have a rogue and resto shami, u can go hybrid rogue/resto. that shit's fun, too.
has a hard time vs ranged CC comps, but u can just check it out on the phyrexia channel.
also, if u are on icecrown, hybrid rogue is one of the easiest builds to get BIS HC gear for, as back+chest+offhand come from gunship and 1 trinket from vendor xD
and i cant tell for feral, but alot of things work with preg. i just pushed 1950 last week with my mate as frost mage/preg so we could get the head on both chars b4 season ends.
cant tell for higher mmr, never played above 2.1k
I remember playing wrath and thought of a spec like this but never actually did it. Wow should have learned this would have been so much fun. You cant do dual pvp weapon can you?
what do u mean "dual pvp weapon"?
u could equip 2 wrathful weapons instead of PVE ones, if that was ur question.
lose some DPS and offensive stats, gain some stamina and resil and slot a little more offensive on other parts in return.
but ofc HC weapons have higher overall stats than s8 weapons, so u'll always lose some stats.
since it's a spell focused build, u should be fine with pvp weapons, since u dont focus on heavy physical damage from windfury
well done
thanks :)
Talents? Glyphs ? status plz ?:
plz check the other comments, i answered this question a couple of times now :P
the answer to "klonzol" should answer most, if u still have questions, let me know, i'll try to reply soon :)
The worts thing in spellhancer i looking for arena partner xD
Livre tour vídeo, and gonna try this comp.
PS: Pls fix your macro, make It /dismout [mounted]
i actually like the display in chat xD
but i wasnt aware of how that would work regarding the macro anyway, so thanks :)
looks very strong but it doenst look very nice to play to me personally
yeah, it's just that preg struggles without purges and lightning shield+flame tongue deal reasonable damage to plates. so its not as fun as other classes/comps, but it's decent fun and reasonably strong :)
bro like all melee's play like this, you stay in melee and push spells for damage, idk what you are on. only rogue has more "tricks".
@@David-hs1bu uhm hard disagree? Which melee has to keep focus on interrupting people from range and also focus on not getting interrupted yourself. You have a huge skill expression with los on a melee which normalöy deosn't require you to have.
Managing your totems and lightning shield against people who are generally good and use makros for that is also a huge learning curve.
How many melees need to learn to fake cast?
Which melee needs to pin point a 15y range to get a snare?
Enha is legit THE melee who can't reliably the stick on the target and play pve because he need to be countering each matchup to have a success unlike most melees.
I would watch this, but the music ruins it.
Cringe music
no hate, bro, but your name is "bouncygangsta", not sure if u're the one to call me out here haha :*