Toyota Middy, Shorty and Bundera 4x4 - What are some differences between them?
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2019
- What are the some Visual differences of the Toyota 4x4 Middy, Shorty and Bundera? Jillaroo Jess and I both love these vehicles. Recently we had 3 of them together and decided to show people some of the key differences between them.
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We had a Bundera when I was a kid. Would love to have one of my own one day, but it's unlikely to happen. Every time I get in a 70 series I'm reminded of it! What really sticks in my head is the suspension in the seats ours had. You'd turn a handle to set your weight and it'd adjust for you, but i was a skinny little kid and never quite weighed enough to make it useful.
Yeah a few came out with suspension seats. My second one had them
She had me at "its not a truck". A pet hate, you spread the word girl!
Lol. Real world problems. 😁
Annoys me when people call them cars 2, and SU fn Vs. if it has mileage like a truck here we call it RUCs for those that don’t know, road user charge’s) if it has a commercial designation regardless of engine type, other than a van, then its a truck no matter the size. You are paying using the same system as designated by Land Transport, however Tonka is apt though and I’d agree with that.
Only Aussie’s would have a Bundy of so many variants wtf lol, we just had 74/75/76s SWB LWB, I can only understand Al Bundy, still very cool you guys these and show us them, i’m just teasing about the rest and pretty envious actually, plus a chick that has 2 has to be pretty dam bonza, choice! go you good thing, pse show them ripping around in next vid, like a bit of grass tearing up and donutting in the bush🤙
Ps I did learn allot this morning thanku.👻
I wish we had these in the states. They gave us the Tacoma which is too wide and nearly the size of an F150 with less power. I would rather have a small truck like the shorty for my needs
Jess is cool! Not many ladies out there who know their 4wd's and driving trucks. Thumbs up!
Totally
Thanks guys for a nostalgic video. I bought a new Bundera petrol in 1992 absolutely loved it charcoal metallic paint, pin stripes were a killer though. Should of got a matt paint for the bush. I was recovering from a broken left leg and the clutch was sympathetic compared to my previous FJ variants Id graduated from including an old 1966 3 speed.
Nice :)
Can also tell a Bundy by whether it prefers to be on its side or roof than the four wheels.
LOL
Well I've definitely learnt something today. Thanks madmatt
Mad matt is the greatest thing that has ever happened to the 4x4 community!!!!
So kind Zac. 😁
Great video !
Im currently restoring a BJ74 middy with a 13bt , cannot wait till shes ready for the tracks!
Love that
Great video! Very interested in the older Toyota 4x4’s. Would love to see some more content like this👍🏼
Let’s see what I come up with
I love these vehicles. Do more videos on these types of vehicles please. Thanks
Great quality video 👍 Good stuff
All are cool vehicles!
Awesome video! ❤
Glad you liked it!!
I’ve got a little boy😂
Another great vid.
Keep up the good work Matt.
Yeah I couldn't resist :)
That’s why I love you channel.
You get the point across
All about safety while having fun. 👍😁
The bundy was the swb prado variant in australia. overseas they had the same running gear in a wagon 70 series as well
The Bundera was the precursor to the Prado
i got a 2004 toyota landcruiser j70 short wheel base looks like matt's landcruiser from the rear but from the front it looks like jess's landcruiser the guards and the indicators i think the middle east version is different than the australian but i love how it looks with the guards and the sticky out indicators and whenever i search for a part or a cluster speedometer or a stripes for my landcruiser i get confused with all the other different types that you got (the world wide market)
Yeah it can get confusing
My dad bought a BJ73 mid-wheel base brand new in 1985 and I've own it since 2005. :) Everytime something breaks or stops working I get excited about how i'm going to make it better. I replaced the 3B engine with a 13BT and got 30% more power with 25% better fuel economy! There's a Nakamichi front end and a huge 15" JBL sub with four 6 1/2" JBL's in the rear and of course the very much needed brake booster upgrade!
One thing I find frustrating is the lack of reference to the BJ73, BJ74 and the RJ70 Bundy in part listings. They seem to always start from 75. :(
Fantastic. Lots of parts cross over but yes can be hard to find.
love these vehicles. we dont get these here in US. these are lovely.
I have a kzj70, 3.0 td (1kzt). Amazing motor. Amazing suspension, 4 coil springs, just like the bundy's. 267k miles (430k km) and still rolling like when it was brand new.
That’s so good
It's an absolute weapon. Most reliable car i have ever seen.
Nice
1KZ is a awful engine.
@@enterBJ40 why? Interested…
Nice...👍😎
3:34, I saw a 70 series looking car with rear radius arms and coils and it had written Prado on it in large letters.
The later Bunderas became Prados
JDM Import model.
All models 4 cil diesels and coil spring vehicles from land cruiser are light duty cars. Only the six cilinders coil and the 4 cil leaf spring are the heavy duty cars, they all have Full floater axles. Except the 13BT car.
What are the difference between the wheel base. Been thinking of using it as a chassis swap for my fj40. Great videos as all ways
I’d have to read up
@@MadMatt4WD that would be great thanks
Love mine 😎👍🍺
Did the 73 in Australia not come with the 1HZ 4.2 ltr diesel? Here in Japan after the 13bt they came with the 1HZ.
I don't think so. They stopped them in Australia around 1990 i think.
Are there also LJ73's in Australia?
yes
Thank You!!
Pleasure
Nice
Good video for me. I have a Japanese imported 70 Prado in the UK. The Bundy looks so similar, same suspension and engine.
Maybe do a comparison if you find one.
Oh, yes, they come with an Auto, so it will be possible to put an Auto in yours using factory parts.
It's a four speed with overdrive, which really helps the little 2.4.
If you need any info on part numbers, let me know.
Thanks for the info! I think it was around 1990 they got called the Prado
@@MadMatt4WD Oh OK, so the Bundy evolved into the Prado, fascinating.
I think it was 1990 and they only built them for a few years, until 96.
I have a 91 in the UK, I just love it. Parts can be fun to find so to learn about the Bundy really helps.
get onto the facebook page toyota bundera australia. absolute wealth of expertise on there.
@@MadMatt4WD Oh cheers Matt
Will the 70series short wheel base LC be coming to Australian Shores??
Nah. highly unlikely
Hi Matt,i have a 2LT bundera ,its more economic than KZT,about 10/12 litres/100km and much less power too :D ,i have the OME+7 ou +5 (dont remember) suspention kit and i dont thinks its a confortable car,if you know some coils brand that are softer, tell me :) . with 4.88 diff ratio its like a tractor,i did a 6000 KM trip from Portugal to morroco,average motorway speed of 95 km/h
Very cool. I run the arb kit and agree it’s rubbish. I’m looking at getting my own springs made. Mine is 5.29 ratio diffs.
Gotta love that middy aka 73
Yep
Aussies dont have trucks Matt, seriously. Utes, riggs, weapons but not trucks
Well according to Jess you’re right. 😂
Shortys also came into australia in 92 for only 12 months with a 1hz 4.2.hzj70
Thanks
Is the bundera LJ70 have same wheelbase length with BJ70 sir?
That I dont know but I suspect so.
Proud owner of a 1990 1PZ (with a bit of ARB tweaking, naturally) ... had from new, 300K on the clock, been almost everywhere, and still going strong.
And no, it's not for sale!
That’s as cool as. Is it for sale. 😊
@@MadMatt4WD Ha!
Removable top and folding windshield ❤
yes all HZJ73 have that. I have one for sale. Look at my You tube channel.
What’s the bull bar on the bundera?? Love the look of it
Fully custom made by me. All the barwork is mine. The flares are steel as well.
MadMatt 4WD is it 4 maybe 5 inch tube?
It's 3" in the centre and then steps down to 1.25" for the outers with sheet infill.
how are they on petrol/diesel I'm thinking of getting one to use has an everyday/all round car. do you get good gas mileage (first time car owner have my p's)
Generally they're not considered economical. Mine gets 17Liter per Hundred kilometres on a good day.
I presume you're in the States? If you can get a diesel, do so -- the fuel-economy of the 1 PZ is phenomenal for a LandCruiser. Mine's 30 yrs old, and for bitumen/HWY driving, with tyres at HWY pressures, I am still getting just on 10L/100km (more when under a full load, in 4WD, and/or on bush tracks, of course).
would a bj74 be a middy in the line up?
I’m not sure. I think the middy is a 73.
Love those. Why no mention of the HZ engine?
Because they didn’t have them to my knowledge.
@@MadMatt4WD interesting. In Europe I have seen the HZJ73, 76,77,78,79
Yes but they're not this series. We have those vehicle here to. These are RJ LJ70 and BJ series vehicles. Some did come with the PZ diesel which is the 5 cylinder version of a 1HZ.
In terms of interior space for Bundera is it the same for driver compared to a 2021 70 series?
I don’t know. I’ve not compared them. The Bundera is ok but not generous.
@@MadMatt4WD thanks mate looking at buying one but they are mostly interstate so might have to buy it sight unseen
Get onto the Bundera Australia Facebook page and see if there’s someone near you who may let you go look at theirs.
How do you call the KZJ77 in Australia? I struggle to find suspension Parts in Europe.
Hey mate. I'm not sure on that one.
@@MadMatt4WD No problem, thank you for your response.
What are you looking for and where in Europe are you?
I own a 70 series Prado in the UK and it looks like the same suspension as the Bundy.
Hi Matt I’m thinking about buying a 1985 middy, it has got a lot of work to do. Could you tell me how can I contact you. Thank you
email me via the website
Hi , Do any of them fit a 4 litre or 4.2 litre diesel easily?!
Yes, the bj70/71- shortys and the bj73/74 middies, have the same dimensions from the A pillar forward as the 75/79 utes so you can easily fit a 4.2 6 in you just have to cut off the engine mounts and move them to suit the 6.
@@brendanmiller5005 thanks for the info. Cheers. Great help
This gives you all the info ua-cam.com/video/VjKpKVdidxI/v-deo.html
I’ve owned a middy and a shorty and they were awesome. I regret getting rid of them
Nice. Get another
MadMatt 4WD a middy looks like it’s next 👍🏻
Having owned an 85 lx bundy, an 80 series, an 03 hilux and now a 2012 hilux, the bundy is no doubt my favourite truck, gold up back seat, tons of room for dinks touring, had full electric suite with a sun roof, chrome sun rasias and arb bar, it was awesome, 22r was a let down though. And had the vacuum assist 4wd actuator stuff up over at Moreton island, that was fun 😆
PitmanCabinetmaking they have a way of doing that! My FJ73’s whole charging/battery system shot itself 3 days before a week long trip to Fraser - lucky the Sparky was able to work some quick magic!
Daniel Fish my son is 13 and is dreaming of a hj70 Ute to do up as a project. I learnt to drive in my dads fj40 so I have a soft spot for shorty landcruisers
Don’t bundies come with a 22r petrol motor as well?
Yes they do
i have a 86 soft top
Jillarroo jess is awesome
Yeah she is and shes keen to get into it. She's' got some sweet plans for the Middy
@@MadMatt4WD yeh, you should do a build breakdown when shr gets the middy done
@@amos5543 I'm sure we'll do something.
What about the 1pz ?
To my knowledge they didn’t come till later
Bundera 85 had the 22r motor
Bundera is coil spung, but under powered with the 22r motor
PitmanCabinetmaking they also had a 2.8 3L diesel or 2LTE 2.4 turbo diesel.
the buderas also had 22 r in them
Yes this was originally
Im about to buy one tomorrow! Cant sleep of excitement!
i can never find a bundera 4 sale
They’re out there.
Bandera is a prado in nz
That’s correct but I think Prado came in for the later years.
Toyota land Cruiser 70 series heavy-duty the best of the best!!!!!
Maybe. 😁
In my opinion bundera kzj70 its the beter 70 series short
I think there are others who would agree with you there.
Land cruiser Prado 70
nice
The camera is too close up can't see the land cruiser beauties 😔
Lol. Sorry we must do better
Sorry, but that is not a bandeira. A bandeira has 40 serie base. ua-cam.com/video/mabcxtG430I/v-deo.html. Youre "bandera is a landcruiser, its on the side.... Its a FJ70
Bundera and it's a RJ70. I think I know what I own.
You are confusing it with the Bandeirante which is based on the j40. it was made and sold in Brazil with a Mercedes Benz OM-364 engine then changed later to the 14B you can identify them mainly by the square headlight instead of round.
barra swap it bahhhhh
NO
ahhahahaha
@@MadMatt4WD keep ya flogged lux motor
barra the world
First
Nice :) 👍
That's why the prados of today are called "Landcruiser prado"
Yes these are the grandfathers of the Prado.
Ahh man Landcruisers are confusing, I will stick to my patrol.
Simple things for..... lol jokes mate.