At 7:35 you were talking about the Trane Warranty, but showed the Carrier Warranty, I think the Heat Exchanger warranty for Trane is Lifetime not 5-10 years, which should be the same as the warranty for American Standard. Owner of a Trane XV95 running straight for 15 years without a single problem.
But is a high-efficiency furnace the best route? They cost more, replacement parts are more, they tend not to last as long, and will you get the extra upfront cost back.
Typically it is a (15) year payback on the high efficiency vs standard efficiency. Parts are typically (3) times more expensive and Labour is greater do to the number of parts.
What are your thoughts about the system that we just purchased. I know that pricing depends on geographical area and we are in the northern suburbs of Philadelphia with about 2,200 square feet. As per your comments, we got rid of the Honeywell thermostat and when I went on to PECO's website they were practically giving away the Nest thermostats so I purchased one for $16, normally $129. We now have a different AC condenser being installed it's a 2.5 ton YORK model YC2E30B21S 14.3 SEER2. Please keep in mind we are in the northern suburbs of Philadelphia so I'm sure price varies depending on geographic location. Thank you:)
Also carrier has had multi-poise for years 😆 guaranteed you’ve called up your supplier for some wild dedicated right horizontal install and they didn’t have the furnace you needed.
In OC and had a 3 year old York swapped out (long story) for a paired Bryant AC/furnace. What a mistake...the Bryant furnace has been crap. It has crapped out all 4 years...pressure switch, touch screen thermostat (not Bryant's fault), flame rollout switch , inducer motor, thermal limit switch have all been replaced under warranty either because of 3 red flashes or 4 red flashes. NextGen bought the installer's contract and also have not been happy with them...having them once want ~$1000 then ~$750 , (~$1500 without warranty!) to replace the inducer motor and pressure switch...seemed like an obvious attempt to get me to believe it wasn't in warranty...had to demand a supervisor in anger. Been trying to experiment with which filter it can handle without throwing 4 red flashes...no way on a 12, iffy on a 9 , so far it's been fine on a 5. Pete
Trane and American standard are the same both built by the same company Lennox is trash parts availability is bad and if you install one expect failures on there high end furnaces Goodman is by far the easiest to deal with warranty wise even had them give me a whole new unit to install when the warranty coil couldn't be received in a reasonable time carrier pretty decent just don't install them close to the ocean
Never thought of Goodman as a top brand. Their high efficiency furnaces are know for water leaking at the plastic manifold and when I called for a new gasket they said the part is obsolete. Stay away from Goodman. They would be closer to a bottom 5 in my opinion.
@@gallardo360 Having just bought 2 furnace/ AC systems in the past year ( one for myself and one for my son) I can tell you in today's world they all have different problems. In my opinion, go with a company where you know you will be able to get parts and service. To me Carrier fills that bill. They are also selective on which HVAC companies they will provide their HVAC systems to. They can be pricey but I shopped around. Highest bid was 14 thousand and I got it for 11 thousand.
Efiiciency is important but durabilty wins the day (9/10 times) and unless its really inefficient or your fuel/energy cost is outrageous, you can't posssibly make up for the cost of the shortened lifespan on most appliances. Not to mention the hassel of shopping re-educating on current products and moving the appliance in and out. I take my trash to the land fill weekly and the amount of appliances going into those landfills is discusting. IMO just shifting the cost to the consumer.
A thermostat that talks to your phone will not talk to your phone in (10) years. A replacement thermostat talk to your new phone may not be able to talk to your olde furnace.
They’re all made in the same factories, efficiency rate can be cheated. Best thing you can get is a fan coil or hydro furnace otherwise it’s a box. Not a good trend to get consumers focused on the box and not the service. We offer 10-12 years warranty parts and labour on our own dime, plus consumables and tune ups for that 12 years.
Lennox has proprietor parts, making it much more expensive to work on, and their tech support sucks. Overall, the quality no longer stands the test of time. Goodman is a low-end product that if you get 15 years out of it, you're doing great. But the majority of parts are off the shelf, and they are easy to work on. Trane and American standard are just junk. Carrier is a middle of the road product that will get you to 20 years but will need major parts replaced to get you there. None of these are the 5 best furnace brands.
@@mvm932Right LMAO I don’t think he understands that carrier trane and Lennox have 80%of the US market share with all there other subsidiary brands such as ICP American standard and other Lennox lower brands.. 😂
I had a goodman high efficiency furnace system installed 20 years ago. It still works great, and I have never had any problems.
At 7:35 you were talking about the Trane Warranty, but showed the Carrier Warranty, I think the Heat Exchanger warranty for Trane is Lifetime not 5-10 years, which should be the same as the warranty for American Standard. Owner of a Trane XV95 running straight for 15 years without a single problem.
I am guessing Goodman has made some quality strides over the years, it used to be called Janitrol, which all of the techs I knew called Junk-a-trol.
They haven’t
I’ve got a Janitrol system and it’s 24 years old and just now needing replacement. I did just replace the Capacitor on it.
Thank Goodness for Goodman the BESTEST HVAC EQUIPMENT IN THE WORLD. Bar - none
The best warranty in the hvac business!!!!
Lenox already has a lawsuit due to low quality equipment…
Lennox parts are sometimes difficult to get
But is a high-efficiency furnace the best route? They cost more, replacement parts are more, they tend not to last as long, and will you get the extra upfront cost back.
Typically it is a (15) year payback on the high efficiency vs standard efficiency.
Parts are typically (3) times more expensive and Labour is greater do to the number of parts.
In Canada you cannot get an 80% furnace. If you can in the U.S I would go with that.
I see you were talking mostly about the high efficiency manufacturer furnaces. Does this rating list also follow 80% furnaces?
What are your thoughts about the system that we just purchased. I know that pricing depends on geographical area and we are in the northern suburbs of Philadelphia with about 2,200 square feet. As per your comments, we got rid of the Honeywell thermostat and when I went on to PECO's website they were practically giving away the Nest thermostats so I purchased one for $16, normally $129. We now have a different AC condenser being installed it's a 2.5 ton YORK model YC2E30B21S 14.3 SEER2. Please keep in mind we are in the northern suburbs of Philadelphia so I'm sure price varies depending on geographic location. Thank you:)
The best are American Starndad and Trane 💯🇺🇸
I’m dumbfounded that Goodman is on this list. Worse yet he thinks they are below Rheem which in 2016 was rated #1 by consumer reports
Also carrier has had multi-poise for years 😆 guaranteed you’ve called up your supplier for some wild dedicated right horizontal install and they didn’t have the furnace you needed.
this guy is in Los Angeles and he explains the differences. his best are 1. lennox 2. goodman 3. carriere 4.trane 5. American standard
In OC and had a 3 year old York swapped out (long story) for a paired Bryant AC/furnace. What a mistake...the Bryant furnace has been crap. It has crapped out all 4 years...pressure switch, touch screen thermostat (not Bryant's fault), flame rollout switch , inducer motor, thermal limit switch have all been replaced under warranty either because of 3 red flashes or 4 red flashes. NextGen bought the installer's contract and also have not been happy with them...having them once want ~$1000 then ~$750 , (~$1500 without warranty!) to replace the inducer motor and pressure switch...seemed like an obvious attempt to get me to believe it wasn't in warranty...had to demand a supervisor in anger.
Been trying to experiment with which filter it can handle without throwing 4 red flashes...no way on a 12, iffy on a 9 , so far it's been fine on a 5.
Pete
Trane and American standard are the same both built by the same company Lennox is trash parts availability is bad and if you install one expect failures on there high end furnaces Goodman is by far the easiest to deal with warranty wise even had them give me a whole new unit to install when the warranty coil couldn't be received in a reasonable time carrier pretty decent just don't install them close to the ocean
Bryant is another Trane Brand.
Never thought of Goodman as a top brand. Their high efficiency furnaces are know for water leaking at the plastic manifold and when I called for a new gasket they said the part is obsolete.
Stay away from Goodman. They would be closer to a bottom 5 in my opinion.
Not obsolete. You have to order collector box. Comes with gasket.
Im looking for a good made 80% model.
I just bought a basic carrier furnace. Good warranty and easy to get parts
trane, run-true, oxbox , American standard
@@gallardo360
Oxbox is made in China.
Why look for trouble even though it is a subsidiary of an American company.
@@Sidfields789
thanks , I didn't know that
@@gallardo360
Having just bought 2 furnace/ AC systems in the past year ( one for myself and one for my son) I can tell you in today's world they all have different problems.
In my opinion, go with a company where you know you will be able to get parts and service. To me Carrier fills that bill.
They are also selective on which HVAC companies they will provide their HVAC systems to.
They can be pricey but I shopped around. Highest bid was 14 thousand and I got it for 11 thousand.
What...❓😮 I heard Bad things about Lennox system
Efiiciency is important but durabilty wins the day (9/10 times) and unless its really inefficient or your fuel/energy cost is outrageous, you can't posssibly make up for the cost of the shortened lifespan on most appliances. Not to mention the hassel of shopping re-educating on current products and moving the appliance in and out. I take my trash to the land fill weekly and the amount of appliances going into those landfills is discusting. IMO just shifting the cost to the consumer.
Servicing heaters for the last 30 years. Ill take a goodman over trane or Lennox.
#1 RHEEM
A thermostat that talks to your phone will not talk to your phone in (10) years.
A replacement thermostat talk to your new phone may not be able to talk to your olde furnace.
What does "Up to a lifetime warranty" even mean?
They’re all made in the same factories, efficiency rate can be cheated.
Best thing you can get is a fan coil or hydro furnace otherwise it’s a box. Not a good trend to get consumers focused on the box and not the service.
We offer 10-12 years warranty parts and labour on our own dime, plus consumables and tune ups for that 12 years.
Stepping up carriers game? They’ve had green speed for years.. 😅
You say nothing about hot water systems for home use.
Lennox has proprietor parts, making it much more expensive to work on, and their tech support sucks. Overall, the quality no longer stands the test of time. Goodman is a low-end product that if you get 15 years out of it, you're doing great. But the majority of parts are off the shelf, and they are easy to work on. Trane and American standard are just junk. Carrier is a middle of the road product that will get you to 20 years but will need major parts replaced to get you there. None of these are the 5 best furnace brands.
So, what do you consider to be the top 5, ranked 1 (best) to 5 (5th best)?
@@mvm932Right LMAO I don’t think he understands that carrier trane and Lennox have 80%of the US market share with all there other subsidiary brands such as ICP American standard and other Lennox lower brands.. 😂
It's only a suggestion, but everyone has their own taste in music. Some people can ignore background music and some (like me) can't.
I agree! Music on a loop and too loud makes for WORK hearing the actual content!!
Why the fk does Los Angeles even need furnaces?
It gets cold at night ….
@@josephpadula2283 LA gets a little chilly at night. Cold is Minneapolis at -25F.
You would think they could get buy with just a heat pump but there still needs to be some type of air handler.
@@josephpadula2283 😁
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