THE REUNION! | Mushoku Tensei Season 2 Episode 20 Couples Reaction & Discussion
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Mushoku Tensei Reaction & Discussion Episode 20
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To answer some of your questions and to shed light on some cool moments:
1. Roxy was holding up in a relatively secluded part of the tunnels witch only a chokepoint entrance, and no teleportation circles or hidden paths behind, so she wouldn't be swamped by numerous monsters. She was initially trying to reserve mana and hoping to hold out till rescue comes (Paul and others), but after a while, I mean being trapped in this situation, and with no reliable way to tell time, one would go crazy. So she is slowly being eaten by anxiety and dread. Considering the possibility that Paul and others have given up on her, or met worse fate. She eventually abandoned her hiding place, and scouted the area before finally making a last ditch effort to try to breakthrough a whole bunch of monsters to use a teleportation circle and try to move elsewhere. (Which in hindsight, she knows it is no good, since she wouldn't know where to go anyway) But this last ditch fight that used up all of her remaining mana, was what alerted Rudy to her presence. The timing could not have been any better. So to answer your question, she wasn't fighting non stop for an entire month. Most of the time, she was safely hiding, but without a way out.
2. There is a cool call back. When Roxy was searching for Rudy and met Elinalise for the first time, they had a chit chat about Roxy's dream man, she commented that it would be someone tall, handsome, powerful (and I think she mentioned blonde) to rescue her from a desperate situation. Elinalise then brushed her off as naive..............guess what, this is what she gets! I'm pretty sure you can find this scene in season 1.
3. Another cool thing here is that Rudy had no respect for his former parents, and he treated Paul like a kid from the beginning. However, he is now learning to repect, love, and truly understand what "father" is despite the flaws.
The thing about teleportation circles is that they sound cool when you think of how they could be helpful, but what if someone wants to use them for bad reasons? They were used during the war with LaPlace for transporting armies by LaPlace. Thus why governments have been trying to get rid of them.
I remember it being Kishirika's armies that did that millennia earlier.
@@Tounushi It could be that. I just remembered it was used for armies in a war from long ago.
No, actually. They weren't used in the Laplace war, they were last used and then banned, after the second great human-demon war
The reunions were so good! Roxy's prophecy that she spoke of back in S1 ep13 with Elinalise, is happening and Rudy did save her "...by chance...". Who knows the rest might play out as she mentioned.
11:35 Yeah the anime didnt show that, but Roxy survived by retreating to a very narrow space where she could rest, eat monster flesh that required detoxification magic to be eaten and drink water made with her own mana, then she would try again and again to find an exit but always ended up in that room, fighting a never ending horde of monsters. Each time they got better at fighting her, until they eventually overwhelmed her, which made her spend all her mana before being able to clear an escape route again. That last attempt was what we saw.
Season 1 EP13
Roxy : "One day, a tall, slim, young man who's manly but still makes childish expressions will save me by chance in the depths of a labyrinth."
Remember, Roxy was able to ask Kishirika, the demon empress, to use her demon eyes to find Zenith and it was confirmed she was here. That was a few years ago, I believe 4 IIRC. And then there was an adventurer party that claims to have seen a woman matching Zenith's description, although I can't remember how far back it was they said they seen her. I believe it was like 2 years ago though.
when roxy asked kishirika about Zenith, zenith was already there for 3 years (since the mana disaster)
as of this episode Zenith is trapped there for 6 years
@@reignmans right. I was just trying to point out that she was confirmed here still alive for all these years. That they're not just going down there based on a hunch but that there's good reason for them to believe that, in spite of the years that have gone by, there's a strong chance she's still alive down there. I didn't mean to make it sound like she hadn't been possibly been there longer.
That said, are you sure she was there from the beginning? For some reason, I thought I remember them saying that she went down there with a party of other adventures, probably trying to make some money for her journey. But I can't remember well enough to say for sure. I knew she was there longer than 4 years ago though.
how can that adventurer party managed to seen zenith when the last teleportation circle is hidden in the first place?
Rudeus tunnelled thru the walls using earth magic. Rest of the party was in shock. Wished they showed a bit of it
They might go over it next episode, who knows and maybe a pov from Roxy and her thoughts about it
The animators for this season are too new and unskilled to animate anymore than they absolutely have to lol.
In the book it said he punched through it or sm lmao.
Basically Paul took advantage of ghislaine during mating season and also had Elinalise when her curse was active both at the same time.
I am pretty sure this is never gonna be included in the show so there goes
in the LN it is implied that paul and elinalise were in an "open relationship" where they were doing it while together(on missions) but they can chase whoever they want when they take breaks.
at some point ghislaine (who was in heat) joined them in their sexy times.
thing is, paul created this party, the fangs of the black wolf. all of them were exiles, runaways and outcasts.
Geese the last of his clan.
Talhand exiled because of his sexual orientation.
Ghislaine left by her clan to be "kidnapped" by a wandering swordsman.
Elinalise an outcast, because of her curse.
Finally Zenith a runaway.
Everyone found a home with Paul and the party. Somewhere to belong.
Along the way Paul picked up Zenith. fell in love with her, got her preggo.... So what was Pauls next move? peace out, retire as an adventurer, take zenith and head back to fitoa to beg his cousin(Philip, Eris's father) for a job and spare money so he can buy a house and settle down.
Obviously the party disbanded... because it couldn't work, they were perfect for the specific group, but without paul (who was the leader) and zenith (the healer) they couldn't work.
individually they didn't have any success joining other parties (especially geese who couldn't fight, but would do everything else, tracking, finding traps, cooking etc)
So everyone was mad at Paul for breaking up their only place they could call home, their only semblance of a family.
But eventually as years passed by they "kinda" let it go.
Talhand tryin' to get Talhandy with Rudeus.
Interesting theories! The Man-God has said he can't see things having to do with Orstead, so maybe that includes the teleport circles that Orsted and Nanahoshi use... On the other hand it's an interesting coincidence that the Man-God told Rudy to go to the magic school and research teleportation ... .and by researching teleportation, he not only met Sylphie but Sylphie also showed Rudy the book "Exploring the Teleport Labyrinth" which has proven so useful. So did the man-god lead Rudy to the tool to save Zenith while still warning him against doing so?
Well, he basiclly diging his own grave alright
10:53 "He senses something~" That he does.
In the mushoku tensei: game (Not Canon) it is told that Paul got down and dirty with both Elinalise and Ghislaine at the same time. After Zenith joins the Adventurer party and telling Paul he has to put a ring on her before anything will happen between them. Paul Dispenses the Adventurer party to get Married with Zenith. Forming a rift between Paul Elinalise and Ghislaine, but Elinalise took it Harder and gave the whole Blame to Paul.
I mean it's not that far from the LN story, he did have a threesome with Elinalise and Ghislaine, but the reason he ended up marrying her was because on their first time she got pregnant
Just think about it if Rudy didn't come here Roxy would have definitely died and he would not even know until Paul come back or some information about their wearabouts is sent to Rudy.
The radiating aura of godess roxy brought rudy towards her.
"Why is he so weak?" Dude just got up from a nap. In the book he thought he was still dreaming, up to the point Rudeus said he's having a child. At that point he snapped fully awake: "Wait, you mean you're really here? That I'm not dreaming?" "Am I dreamy enough to seem that way?" "Yeah, you're you."
I don't read LN but the manga shows it better for this part
@@vorcent_jax it does.
If you remember in S1 when Rudy was a kid he asked Roxy what kind of a man she likes. And she replied " Someday a slim, tall looking guy will save her in a labyrinth" along that line. Crazy foreshadowing!!!
Eat the monsters like delicious in dungeon.
Paul's drama with the party was never pointed out in the books themselves, only in the discontinued mobile game as a progression reward. The game got canceled when half of the side story was released, so the devs released the transcript at some point, which included the latter half of it. First half was from Paul's birth to him violating Lilia and escaping her house. Second half was him starting off as an adventurer up until Rudeus' birth.
The drama in the side story was in the end rather simple.
Paul started his relationship with Zenith after months of growing closer with her rather than jumping her bones right away. Everyone else could see it and stopped warning him about getting too close to her, but after they did the deed, he nagged at the other members to clean up their acts. During the party's confrontation over this behavior, Zenith passed out and they learned she was around two months pregnant. Paul immediately declared that he's disbanding the party and leaving with Zenith.
The next day when Zenith tried to soothe over Paul's attempts at arsoning his bridges with the others, he doubled down and said his time with them didn't really matter to him and that he's taking all of the reward money for their latest job. Geese had to hold Elinalise down as Paul walked away. Ghislaine held down Talhand as well.
Elinalise's in the end quick to forgive Paul, as a lot of the factors in the drama were annulled with time and events surrounding them both.
The child Zenith was pregnant with turned out to become an exceptional young man.
Elinalise isn't exactly cash-strapped, so the monetary part didn't really matter to her.
Elinalise was initially willing to cut herself clean from Cliff to go on the journey and in the end couldn't do it.
Paul has run himself ragged to rescue Zenith, so his devotion to her safety is unquestionable.
Paul actually apologizes for what he did, so all Elinalise has left to hold on to is petty pride. And she's far too old for that kind of nonsense.
"Arsoning his bridges"??? First, that's not even a proper word. Arson is a noun, not a verb. Secondly, just say "burning" his bridges like a normal person lol
@@kamikaze.33 "Normal is what everyone else is and you are not."
And Paul went full on pyromaniac in burning his bridges.
This is not a spoiler it is speculation, If someone saw her in the labyrinth, perhaps because she is an S-class adventurer, someone would hire her to conquer the labyrinth, after all she needed money to return to Buena, but she would fall into a trap or someone kidnapped her.
Dungeon meshi
Yep delicious in dungeon!
POGGLES
Why do you guys believe Roxy, is higher level than Zenith though? Isn't Zenith a high level Cleric that adventured with Paul, Ghislane, & Elinalise? They're all S-class right? Also, they said Zenith, was with a party in the labyrinth.
zenith isnt a fighter tho, she is just a decent healer (intermediate level healer so just a level above beginner). the party is S rank, so everyone in the party is considered an S rank adventurer.
Roxy is a king class water mage and saint class fire mage.
We've been told before, if I remember correctly during one of their journeys on ship, that rudeus saw an s-ranked party and realized that at least individually they were worse than them, but what brought them to that rank was their teamwork, in Paul's party, zenith was just the healer, the ones you could say were above average were definitely Ghislaine and maybe Paul, but that's about it, Roxy is way more knowledgeable and powerful, except for being clumsy from time to time Roxy is just 100% better at least in this department
The dream/prophesy that Roxy had basically said that the man of her life will save her in a dungeon.
She want to meet Bell Cranel from Danmachi 😂
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YES! Roxyyyyy!!! Finally!
I have to say I don't like the red flags surrounding his father right now, though. But I haven't read the manga so I have no idea if it's something to be worried about or not. Especially since he'd regret going there. Perhaps it means that not going there would mean the death of Roxy and his mother, but going there would mean the death of his father? That would be so messed up...
LN
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Rudeus thinking with his wang and not about the family first. sussy baka
I mean he is continuing the bloodline.....
Now Hitogami's plan coming to light... Maybe he doesn't want Rudy to meet Roxy... Strange vibes...
That doesn't make any sense since Rudy wouldn't have even been able to save Roxy had man-god not told Rudy to study teleportation at Ranoa and found the book that details this specific labyrinth. Without that book, they could all have ended up dying trying to search this labyrinth for who knows how long...
@@kamikaze.33 not really ,all of them are strong, without the book it will took longer but thats all
Hitogami doesn't want Rudy to go to Begaritt and would rather stay in Ranoa and have relationships with either Linia or Pursena because by going to Begaritt it will trigger a series of events that will lead to Roxy and Rudy have intimacy and Hitogami thinks that their Roxy and Rudy child will team up with Orsted and defeat him. The child's name is Lara.
@@vinmisanthrope9719 FFS...No spoilers man